The 10,000 Year Old Shoes

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ม.ค. 2019
  • Ever wondered what the oldest shoe in the world is? No? I'm not surprised, still made a video on it though.
    If you want to learn more about these artefacts or see them yourself, then why not visit the University of Oregon Museum of Natural and Cultural History. It's a great place! mnch.uoregon.edu/
    Thanks so much!
    Sources:
    Aikens, C. Melvin., et al. Oregon Archaeology. Oregon State University Press, 2011.
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    Image Atributions:
    All footage/images of the artefacts taken by me at the Oregon Museum of Natural and Cultural History.
    natural-history.uoregon.edu/
    Fallschirmjäger, Lake bonneville map, CC BY-SA 3.0
    Didier Descouens, Coelodonta antiquitatis , CC BY-SA 4.0
    WolfmanSF, Camelops hesternus, CC BY-SA 3.0
    WolfmanSF, Columbian mammoth, CC BY-SA 3.0
    Daniel D'Auria from Southern New Jersey, USA, Branta canadensis -near Oceanville, New Jersey, USA -flying-8, CC BY-SA 2.0
    John Atherton, University of Oregon archaeological excavations at Fort Rock Cave, Oregon (USA), 1966, CC BY-SA 2.0

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  • @StefanMilo
    @StefanMilo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If you want to learn more about these artefacts or see them yourself, then why not visit the University of Oregon Museum of Natural and Cultural History. It's a great place! mnch.uoregon.edu/
    Thanks so much!

    • @NOMAD-qp3dd
      @NOMAD-qp3dd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So when did humans start augmenting with clothing and shoes and covering their privates? Do we know? Have a vid already?
      That would seem a turning point in evolution, the tribe of monkees who started weaving little crotch patches 😄 Hey, less infections maybe? to go back in time and see the creature that made those shoes would be awesome.

    • @PaulA-qp6ev
      @PaulA-qp6ev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      are these like loafers?

  • @doctorpicardnononono7469
    @doctorpicardnononono7469 5 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    so many one legged people back then, tragic.

    • @NorthworthySagasStories
      @NorthworthySagasStories 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol

    • @andynixon2820
      @andynixon2820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or maybe everyone just had two left or two right feet .

    • @Lora_M_NY
      @Lora_M_NY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha

    • @gruppettovelo
      @gruppettovelo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I believe those one legged ancient ancestors are the folks who opened the very first IHOP franchise.

    • @jackyichan4759
      @jackyichan4759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Like socks you just seem to loose one or the other

  • @gelgamath_9903
    @gelgamath_9903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Drinking excessive amounts of beer might be an English ritual that dates back to the Stone age

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That's very true lol.

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Irish Jester all the more reason to start early, LOL!

    • @HarryGuit
      @HarryGuit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Must be neolithic - farming, barley, beer.

    • @1harperaj
      @1harperaj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Very sensible as water was not very pure, better to make week beer by todays standards for long lasting refreshments necessary to sustain life

  • @sneeringimperialist6667
    @sneeringimperialist6667 5 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Those shoes held up better than the ones I bought from Walmart.

    • @zenolachance1181
      @zenolachance1181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You bought shoes at Walmart???

    • @Mrbfgray
      @Mrbfgray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Your Walfart shoes wore out on the way home from that horrible store.

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what happens when you buy the Chinese-made junk at Walmart... you can find 10× more American-made stuff at Dollar General, for crying out loud!

    • @redactedbananas
      @redactedbananas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bought a pair of running shoes from Walmart for like $20 dollars and they are extremely durable, although they don't vent well. (I think the mesh is fake.) But the soles have worn down smooth without coming off.

    • @icedteacatfish
      @icedteacatfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think they held up better than any shoes ever

  • @Thx1138sober
    @Thx1138sober 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    What really amazing and what Stefan forgot to mention, is that the pair of 9,000-year-old shoes were found hanging from the wires of a 9,000-year-old utility pole.

  • @greenflagracing7067
    @greenflagracing7067 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    found hanging from a telephone line.

  • @derpmcgerp8062
    @derpmcgerp8062 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    *Ancient Oregon has entered the chat*
    *Adidas has left the chat*
    *Nike has left the chat*
    *Sketchers has left the chat*
    *Ancient Oregon promoted to admin*

    • @EugeneAyindolmah
      @EugeneAyindolmah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nike is from Oregon

    • @MaryAnnNytowl
      @MaryAnnNytowl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EugeneAyindolmah yeah, maybe he shoukd have just left that line out... even Converse, the only other fairly large shoe company I could think of, is an American company, LOL!

  • @StefanMilo
    @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    An Old Shoe Haiku:
    Intertwined Sagebrush
    found with 10,000 rabbits
    stone age comes to life
    Thanks for watching!

    • @garytucker5748
      @garytucker5748 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy new year.

    • @duck1ente
      @duck1ente 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *Jacksfilms wants to know your location*

    • @noahsabin7386
      @noahsabin7386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Could you make a video making replicas of these shoes? I think it would be super cool to watch!

    • @Masaru_kun
      @Masaru_kun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As you lose more hair
      I grow more downstairs
      It's yours to share ;)
      -a haiku for my good pal steven milo
      (i swear i thought of this before seeing your comment...)

    • @NerdWorldEmpire
      @NerdWorldEmpire 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would maintaining the chalk figures count as a tradition? Some of them go back to prehistory? Then there's old drystone walling but those might not count as traditions? Halloween is an old celtic celebration originally just thoughts I'm struggling to think of any traditions in the UK that are prehistoric

  • @TheLacedaemonian300
    @TheLacedaemonian300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I think it's pretty obvious what happened here; a new company came to town with their brand new, badass kicks called the 'Sagebrush Airs', and totally took over the market. Probably because this new shoe could make one run faster and jump higher, and the chicks just dig a man with Airs. The dead rabbits were a symbolic representation of the death of the previous shoe company that used a rabbit as its logo, how lame. Mystery solved!

  • @himssendol6512
    @himssendol6512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I’ve always thought throwing coins into fountains for good luck had to have some relation with stone age water offerings of bronze daggers and stuff.

  • @maisondusuave
    @maisondusuave 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The 2nd style appears to be adjustable and protects the heel. Better design. Could have come from outsiders, or just someone really fed up with their shoes falling of when they run.

    • @mmneander1316
      @mmneander1316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And maybe the 2nd style could be mass-produced and traded, because adjustable to any size foot. Whereas it seems to me the 1st style had to be individually tailored to foot size.

    • @liarspeaksthetruth
      @liarspeaksthetruth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mmneander1316 In that sense, it would be an invasion. "Have you seen woven crox?" 1 week later: everyone is wearing woven crox.

    • @mmneander1316
      @mmneander1316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@liarspeaksthetruth Heh:-)

    • @tinstreet_egg
      @tinstreet_egg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@liarspeaksthetruth oh god no, not the woven crocs 😂😂😂

  • @pseudo.account
    @pseudo.account 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Lol. "I even made a bloody spear." That strikes me as a very British thing to say

  • @MatthewDoye
    @MatthewDoye 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Oldest continuous rituals in Britain, complaining about the weather and how dark it gets in winter.
    The oldest craft still practiced I can think of is beadmaking.

    • @username65585
      @username65585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Uffington White Horse?

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's a good one

    • @NorthworthySagasStories
      @NorthworthySagasStories 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Today it is raining and overcast in the UK, again. lol

    • @MatthewDoye
      @MatthewDoye 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NorthworthySagasStories Good guess though just overcast today and dark by 4pm, aka January.
      Nice channel BTW, I'm subscribing.

    • @NorthworthySagasStories
      @NorthworthySagasStories 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah and thanks, Matthew Doye for liking and subscribing to the channel. Welcome!

  • @robertfletcher3421
    @robertfletcher3421 5 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Teenagers decided they wanted their own fashion just like now.

    • @bozo5632
      @bozo5632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Once, in 20000 years.

  • @elikithompson96
    @elikithompson96 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I live in Oregon and as I have been researching this topic and these shoes it hit me. The native cultures here seemed to persist relatively unchanged while other massive cultures all over the world rose and fell. South American, Egyptian, Roman, Mexican and Mayan. They wove nearly the same baskets and wore the same sandals for 9,000 years. Ponderous.

  • @hellboy7424
    @hellboy7424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Multiple warp looks better for rumning. Besides, the feet are more protected. I think is just a natural evolution from "kind A" , not a "war" situation.
    Sorry for my broken english.

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No I agree, I would prefer to wear them and probably these stone age folks agreed. It must have been very durable as the style lasted thousands of years and you wouldn't wear them if they sucked.

    • @fleetskipper1810
      @fleetskipper1810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The first sandal is more like a scuff, meaning, it was backless. The second provided increased heel protection and also appears to rise higher up on the top of the foot as well as having a stouter toe box that protected the toes better. The newer version also looks like it had more secure methods of tying the sandal to the wearer’s foot. Overall, it was just a design improvement for people who walked long distances over rough terrain. Depending upon the local microclimate at the time, it was better for colder weather than the first version.
      It would be really fascinating to consult somebody who designs shoes and see what they think. Anyway, there likely was a practical reason for the change related to climate.

    • @lesleeg9481
      @lesleeg9481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had any of the other basketry styles changed during that time frame? Someone may have discovered the cool multi warp method and applied it to shoes, and being that multi warp weaving is way more flexible than the first style of weaving, they were able to change the style so that the shoe would stay on better and give more protection - which could help if it was getting so much colder..

  • @carolnorton2551
    @carolnorton2551 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The style changed from slip-ons to lace ups. The style may have changed back and forth every season. We don't have sales quotas for each season since , now do we?

  • @Kirindor
    @Kirindor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks for the video. I agree that your channel needs many more subscribers. I like the focus on the mundane, common elements of life.
    These ancient shoes represent a tremendous amount of labor. All of the fiber for the cordage had to be sourced and then twisted before being woven. I have made shoes similar to these. In mine I found that the sole of the shoes couldn't extend under the toes because that part would curl under and become a tripping hazard.
    Again thanks for the videos.

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh yeah a tremendous amount of effort. Even just gathering enough bark to make the cords would probably take all day.

  • @pseudopetrus
    @pseudopetrus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I always thought that it was unusual how our feet developed, in a way so frail and yet enabling us to travel great distances. I live in Canada, and I have tried to adapt my feet to the cold by walking barefoot in the snow. You lose a lot of heat through your bare feet in the snow and really, I did not find my experiment practical, in spite of repeated exposure, my feet did not adapt. I thought that perhaps they would grow hair or something, but I was not that lucky.

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah it's interesting, definitely hard in a cold climate like Canada. For those that live in warmer climates like Africa and still go without shoes, their feet are probably like leather.

    • @EugeneAyindolmah
      @EugeneAyindolmah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@StefanMilo thats how my dads feet are

    • @kevingee4294
      @kevingee4294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At least your grandkids will have hairy feet!

    • @kevingee4294
      @kevingee4294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least your grandkids will have hairy feet!

    • @zenolachance1181
      @zenolachance1181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The native peruvians around Lake Titicaca walk Barefoot in the snow all the time , but it is something you must do from childhood , you can't just decide one day you're going to adapt your feet to walking barefoot in the snow

  • @CuteCritters
    @CuteCritters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My hippy friends would rock those now.
    Ok I mean me.

  • @LunaC...
    @LunaC... 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I find it weird that he goes to all the trouble of going on location but never talks about where he is or why he's there...

  • @Friendlyfarter
    @Friendlyfarter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your videos are so soothing to watch. And what a silky voice you have!
    I wonder how warm/comfortable those shoes were. They look cold. They make me thankful for my thermal socks and big boots.

  • @twillyspree3759
    @twillyspree3759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stefan, another fantastic video taking a piece of mundane life and bringing it to life with all your humor and curiosity. I loved in one of your videos that you described yourself as "Yes, I 'm THAT level of nerd"! So am I, keep posting for me & all your fellow dedicated nerds.

  • @tectosagos9327
    @tectosagos9327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Also, how about a look at Otzi the Iceman's woven kit? Just a thought.

    • @hellboy7424
      @hellboy7424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      4000 years, not 10000. In any case, footwear is certainly an invention very much previous to Homo sapiens, but the materials of which they are made simply rot very easily, that is why it is rare to find them.

    • @tectosagos9327
      @tectosagos9327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I realise Otzi is a bit more recent, the interest is in the extensive use of woven plant material as opposed to the "cavemen in skins" concept.

    • @hellboy7424
      @hellboy7424 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tectosagos9327I'm sorry if you have misunderstood me, I have never doubted your knowledge. It is simply the pleasure of exchanging knowledge.
      There are fibrous plants throughout the world and many are susceptible to be interwoven to make clothes and footwear. The subject is fascinating

    • @hellboy7424
      @hellboy7424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tectosagos9327 The skin (leather)is a wonderful material that is still in use today. The problem is the idea of ​​people believing that human beings who inhabited the earth at that time were little more than apes, when the reality is that they had an incredible adaptation to the environment and a very interesting technology. Even the Neandertals would be very similar to the Native Americans of the 19th century or the Inuit
      Sorry for my broken english.

    • @tectosagos9327
      @tectosagos9327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell Boy, it's all cool. No worries. I spent a week once, making 3 pairs of authentic shoes for my children for an event. Tore my fingers to shreds, blisters, the works. And because most of the other kids there went barefoot, they never wore them! Bless. How we laughed.

  • @IvoTichelaar
    @IvoTichelaar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know exactly from which period they were, but I once did a botany field course (biology) around a group of burial mounds in the Northeast of the Netherlands, containing cremated remains. Parts of the mounds have been researched by archeologists. Locals warned them that a certain set of mounds furthest away from the village was bad, haunted and had something to do with unhappy children. The archeologists found remains of children in those mounds. This seems to suggest that some knowledge of the burial mounds has survived for centuries. I think we have been mostly burying our dead since the Romans invaded. So at least 2,000 years old. It must have survived the great migration and several changes of population. Also, the separate location for the child burials snd the fear of the locals might mean they were located furthest away from the settlement, as they are now.

  • @avaevathornton9851
    @avaevathornton9851 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Word for the day: undersubscribed

  • @matuvarela3760
    @matuvarela3760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IDK if it count but here in Argentina and Uruguay we use some kind of shoes "alpargatas" that have a sole made of rope. when you step on water with those alpargatas the sole get hard and is almost useless by modern standars, but it is very confy and fresh

  • @thecasualcitizen492
    @thecasualcitizen492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The question about why the weaving style changed was very interesting. Perhaps showing the weaving style of one shoe and comparing it to the changed weaving style and researching the possibilities would be a topic for a video. The older Fort rock style appears to be more labor intensive in the front part covering the toe and upper foot. The Multiple wrap looks like a faster method but also it has more twine holding the shoe on the foot in the shoe lace area, and appears to have more weaving in the heel area to hold the show on the heel.

  • @tectosagos9327
    @tectosagos9327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Excellent, as usual! Very cool to see the seemingly mundane made interesting! You could do a follow up on earliest leather shoes or similar. There's the Armenian (I think) cave find at over 5000 yrs old, and a few others a bit more recent. Also, (can't remember if I've mentioned before) but have a look for the research/books by P.V. Glob, lots of very early fabrics and clothing from mainly European bog finds. Recreations of these finds look amazing.

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Tecto, I'll definitely check those out. Yeah I didn't manage it with this month but going forward I'm trying to give each month a theme so that I can make short videos but also get into more detail.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StefanMilo
      I think we can agree that the oldest leather shoes go way back into what passes for human deep time. They may have been sections of skin wrapped around the foot and tied off. But they still qualify. Amongst the oldest crafts still practiced basket weaving has to be right up there. The natives of the interior PNW seem to have used primarily materials as you stated. The natives of the Eastern Woodlands it seems would have used more wood strips. In Europe I wonder about the use of fiber from Beech trees. I see it today used for linens. Of course there is flax. How about an article on the origins of silk production

  • @maxb482
    @maxb482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of my favorite episodes of yours. I love hearing about our regions here around Oregon. More bangers like this one please!

  • @TeethToothman
    @TeethToothman หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're the best, Stefan. Thanks! 🫀👽🫀

  • @jwvandegronden
    @jwvandegronden 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stefan, this begs for a deep dive and even maybe a long form? Or did you already pick up on that since 2 years passed? Your tone, humor, knowledge of the broader topic in general and your scientific approach makes it a feast to listen to and watch. And I think many with me would love to see long form more often. There is so much to discover: interview a cobbler, someone who invests in the traditional shoe making, a walk through the timeline from barefooted forefathers up to these woven shoes, and I think there is nothing wrong with some elaborate educated guesswork on the story behind these artifacts. Hypothesizing is like daydreaming for academics, so go for it, mate. We all happily follow your trail.

  • @bethymears2648
    @bethymears2648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who ever worn it their descendants are still living.
    Thankyou it's wonderful to see what peoples ancestors had worn on their feet.
    Thankyou so much.

  • @myothersoul1953
    @myothersoul1953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing that might change the style of shoe is they found something better. Finding something better is a good thing. Ten thousand years of not changing much means 10,000 years of not find much that is better. Their goal was to sustain themselves not to create a sustainability. Given technology better at taking resources from the environment they would have used it just like any other group of humans would have and did. Sustainability is a modern concern, a better concern than what came before, and one we should adopt more fully.

  • @Ken19700
    @Ken19700 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    More than likely the multiple warp style stayed on the foot better.

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably, they look sturdier.

  • @kittylevee4662
    @kittylevee4662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why not simply a person who was an innovative weaver⁉️😍
    💜💙💚💛🧡❤

  • @judemorales4U
    @judemorales4U ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found, what I believe to be a wooden sole of a old shoe. It was in a dense area of bush along side a creek in Washington state. I always wanted to get it to someone to look at. I left it behind in a box though and moved to Egypt. Lost the box after 10 years but really was certain it was a shoe. It had holes in it for the toe and 2 at the heel area. It was water and rock worn down but sure looked like part if a shoe. I will never know for sure....

  • @BytebroUK
    @BytebroUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was this one really smart kid training as a shoemaker, and he made one that was better than anything they were selling. His boss stole the design and sold it, and the rest is history :)

  • @dunnhomevideos2811
    @dunnhomevideos2811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos my friend, you do great work and provide high quality content. Thank you good sir, for the honest efforts

  • @LondonReps
    @LondonReps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just checking in to say how much I enjoyed this one, much love x

  • @UteChewb
    @UteChewb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say those "new" shoes look much cooler. I bet a new tribe moved in nearby and the locals saw their shoes and said, "That's awesome, mate. How do you make them?"

  • @watsonwrote
    @watsonwrote ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So cool to learn more about the history of my home state! It's strange that the headquarters of Nike is also the home of the oldest known shoes.

  • @gabbytriestomakethings
    @gabbytriestomakethings ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a costumer who often makes mistakes then rolls with it, I wonder how many new designs were discovered by doing something, making a mistake then liking it or not wanting to start over.

  • @reuireuiop0
    @reuireuiop0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The survival of cultural custom like that communal rabbit hunt over such long periods, makes you realise how hard it must have been for the first farmers to convince their tribesmen that eating that self seeded stuff from the ground was just as well as the hunting and gathering man had done (and handed down in tradition) for over 1000 millennia.
    Accepting agriculture as a decent way of life must have taken a millennia period of cultural transition.

  • @sharonbarker5751
    @sharonbarker5751 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos! They are all so informative and interesting.

  • @wiscgaloot
    @wiscgaloot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to make a pair of those for myself. Great video, thanks!

  • @elizabethshaw734
    @elizabethshaw734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    After watching many of your videos today I can say I believe that you are the only person who would do a video on a 10000 year old shoe! :-)

  • @ozwhistles
    @ozwhistles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The tradition of the simple flute (6-tone-hole) seems to be 25k+ In Western Europe (and colonies).
    Pretty much unchanged. Materials that come to hand are rendered in the same way for the exact same result.With the shoes - the advent of non-productive months with the climate-shift would mandate a time of reflection. IN these times, the weavers had time to think about their craft and innovate. You can see this in the seasonal cultures around the world in the advancement of weaving craft in deeply seasonal cultures.
    I might add that weaving is the genesis of computation as we know it?

  • @KhAnubis
    @KhAnubis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The OG Nike
    (Yes, everyone; Nike is based in Oregon)

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And yet I own zero Nikes

    • @KhAnubis
      @KhAnubis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same actually, and I've lived here 10 years!

    • @lilsleepy1969
      @lilsleepy1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      legendary interaction

  • @John-mf6ky
    @John-mf6ky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, I never knew of stuff like this being found in my home state. Do you live in Oregon, or just there for vacation? It would be cool to see something on the petroglyphs found in Oregon !

  • @keithoutsidethebox6707
    @keithoutsidethebox6707 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woolly Rhino's - Coelodonta range were restricted to Eurasia. The last true Rhinoceros to live in N America was Teleoceras
    5- 4.9 ma.Easily done. Love your videos.

  • @Nembula
    @Nembula 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Christmas is really the winter solstice. The Yule log is an old tradition of the Celt's brought forward. The local shaman had a peyote infused dream about a new style and they figured out something new. Nah, you're probably right some one cruised through with some new kind of weave from outside their normal trade partners.

  • @kevindorland738
    @kevindorland738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Changed for human's endless goal to improve the lives of their loved ones.

  • @altair458
    @altair458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great!!! Makes me think. Thanks

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The practice of lighting bonfires annually on certain hills in Britain likely has very ancient origins. Probably to do with maintaining routes through forests. Maypoles may also have ancient origins, in spring fertility rituals. (When reviving antique customs was fashionable in the late 19th/early 20th century, I'm sure a lot of respectable spinster would have been shockedif they realised t the symbolism they were enacting.)

    • @jgrandson5651
      @jgrandson5651 ปีที่แล้ว

      What you are saying sounds very familiar to me hahaha. We still do very similar things here in Galicia, northwestern Spain. I just posted a coment explaining it :)

  • @MrDestomp
    @MrDestomp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the good work mate! Happy 2020 from a fellow archaeologist in Greece!

  • @christopherellis2663
    @christopherellis2663 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought that it would be the 🇦🇲 Armenian shoe. Morris Dancing is actually Moorish Dancing, imported from Spain where the local variety is still available. Thank you for this very informative video 📹

    • @lizcademy4809
      @lizcademy4809 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a web page where you can read randomly generated origins of Morris dancing ... one of my kids (Fool) and I (Squire) even contributed to it.
      I would definitely believe Morris dancing goes way, way back, though I'm not sure what pre-metal cultures would use for bells.

  • @eliad6543
    @eliad6543 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe instead of some new people arriving to the area, the cause of the change in shoe type was due to the sagebrush spreading or starting to grow in large enough amounts to become the optimal shoemaking material? This also seems very testable.

  • @MH-ro1lg
    @MH-ro1lg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A tradition that is around today which probably dates back 9k years ago is when men greet each other as non aggressors, they display their unarmed/open palms.

  • @SFVYachtClub
    @SFVYachtClub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Fly kicks, my hominid. You boutta hand them over fore you catch these arrowz"

  • @XaveRave
    @XaveRave 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    big year for old baby Stephan! pumped bro!

  • @NorthworthySagasStories
    @NorthworthySagasStories 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are very old shoes indeed. Cool video and nice to learn something new. Keep up the good work and Happy New Year Stefan!

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Happy New Year!

  • @vintagelady1
    @vintagelady1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So now I understand why I've never seen a rabbit here in oregon, but there are plenty of shoe stores!

  • @FrauWNiemand
    @FrauWNiemand 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, I think there IS an european tradition which dates back really long. This is te making of butter in Austria. I don't know how long this dates back, but we went to Austria around 2000. There was an area right at the dead end of a valley in the alps. A valley where all mountain rivers met and it was still difficult to get there and there are tiny houses made out of stone and wood, no internet, barely electrificated at this time. freezing cold nights below zero degrees in mid August, houses covered fully in snow during wintertime. They made butter like some hundered years ago.

  • @injunsun
    @injunsun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My hypothesis is that, just as I sometimes experiment with different variations when I crochet, some ancient shoemaker was just being creative, and found a design improvement he or she liked. As it was a clear improvement, the technique was copied and shared. No invasion necessary. There are many examples of cultural sharing predating eventual genetic sharing, by centuries. Examples include vessel design, weaving design, and "culture hero" mythos, as depicted in convergent Bronze Age art forms. (Hence, my chosen name.)

  • @haraldisdead
    @haraldisdead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The man who never stops smiling

  • @krisinsaigon
    @krisinsaigon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's fascinating that they had traditions like these shoes that survived unchanged for so many thousands of years.
    I live in vietnam, i wear flip flops/sandals all the time. Looking at the 10,000 year old style, then the 9,000 year version, it's clear the newer style is much better designed, when you walk in it it's going to stay on much better because it's held in place by the straps going from the heel to the front of the foot. My guess would be, and this is just a guess, that one of the people from the culture with the old shoe style just hit upon the idea one day and since it was obviously superior the new style superceded the old. I don't know if it needs a new people entering into the area, the original people had agency of their own to innovate

  • @OscarPanczenko
    @OscarPanczenko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVED THIS ONE!

  • @shadymerchant1198
    @shadymerchant1198 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the oldest i can think of is cutting and adorning trees in Europe which is still practiced today with christmas trees and people have been doing that for thousands of years unfortunately there is no clear earliest example as cut and non-preserved trees tend not to survive very long

  • @jericson1109
    @jericson1109 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The toe box of the first style looks labor intensive. The later style looks to me maybe like what you'd change to if you had a more ample supply of the large twine. Maybe they developed a better, easier method to produce that component and so could be more generous with use of it?

  • @pattywolford
    @pattywolford 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s always interesting when fiber artifacts survive for thousands of years. Also, the twine/rope making, then weaving or knotting to create an article of clothing or footwear….really remarkable ancient technology.

  • @klondikechris
    @klondikechris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old customs still observed: throwing a coin into water (like a well), and making a wish. This apparently goes back to the worship of a Celtic goddess, although Romans did similar things.

  • @physetermacrocephalus2209
    @physetermacrocephalus2209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Correct me if I'm wrong but visiting Stonehenge sounds like a stone age European ritual that modern Europeans still partake in today.

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, but the meaning has changed somewhat. At least for most visitors.

  • @surfk9836
    @surfk9836 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They were found in the returned bin at Amazon.

  • @adrasthe314
    @adrasthe314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so salty, TH-cam never send me the notif for the vid :(
    It feels so strange to see these old shoes, I feel like they look sort of recent somehow? It kind of makes our ancestors feel more close to us than they usually do lol

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow someone actually has notifications on for my videos!
      Yeah they are very modern. I guess no matter the time period, everyone loves warm feet.

    • @kabivose
      @kabivose 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StefanMilo some bright bored child said "what would happen if we wove it this way?"
      Sources: I was a bright child and I've had bright children.
      PS the prototype could have been for a doll.

    • @jwvandegronden
      @jwvandegronden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it comes so close to home because it tells the story of a people just as smart as us looking for ways to make their lives easier? That conceptual ability we only share with our ancestors, there is no other animal we can relate to in that regard. I think the same response although more observing possibly is when we see e.g. crows solve these complex puzzles or when we learn that elephants communicate and empathize across species. That wonder and interconnectedness horizontally is warming, vertically over time with our ancestors is even more radiating; It’s a good feeling to have!

  • @jacksonwilliams8971
    @jacksonwilliams8971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh hey those are at my school’s History museum! Love your videos, and I’m pleasantly surprised to learn you’re an Oregonian too!!

  • @olorin7940
    @olorin7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take a look at the Sámi people living in Norway, Sweden, Finland and large parts of Russia. While most of them(In Norway at least) live in the big cities, many still remain in the north cattling reindeer, and so on. Many got snow scooters, have houses but still also have tents they live in some times. Im no expert but they have facsinating lives and still possess a lot of their ancestors skills in making traditional clothes and so forth.

  • @AngryMothNoises
    @AngryMothNoises 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo, I am from central oregon. We didn't have dinosaurs but we got cool stuff like this. I am pretty sure this shoe your talking about is at the Museum in Eugene Oregon. I have seen some shoe there, its very cool.

  • @zacharystroud6682
    @zacharystroud6682 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice a new video! Awsome man.

  • @sophieinspired
    @sophieinspired 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    clearly the first fashion designer has entered the stage

  • @ryanhelmer9369
    @ryanhelmer9369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha! I got one older. A left foot baby shoe with missing jingle bell, cobbled to the highest quality, turned to solid greystone. Some of the stone nails exhibit traces of rust.

  • @dianehansen5552
    @dianehansen5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My step father often would get 2,000 pairs of rabbits at a time when that was hit profession. Of course, it was the midst of the Australian rabbit plague, and he had steel traps.

  • @chanaheszter168
    @chanaheszter168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing this belatedly...have you ever looked at naalbinding and knitting? Oldest sock ever found was Roman item with sandal toe cleft. Nerdy Knitters want to know.

  • @raccoonresidence9086
    @raccoonresidence9086 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if they had socks? That or really sore feet. With those design changes, the ladies that wore them were high mainenance

  • @akaramata4544
    @akaramata4544 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the Balkans, we have a tradition around the end of winter to scare evil spirits away with outrageous costumes, called Kuker-s. I suppose this tradition spans back to the Stone Age. Certainly, it was not Indo-European or agrarian.

    • @Etic335
      @Etic335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We did the same until a few decades ago in the east of turkey, it called kushmar .

  • @chrisconway9959
    @chrisconway9959 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I would say halloween and Christmas are two great examples of neolithic traditions that have survived into the present. Of course they have been reengineered by a couple of faiths in the meantime, but the basic premise holds. One is for winter solstice (Christmas), and the other is for the transition from warm activities, to survival mode for winter.

  • @robertbrownm
    @robertbrownm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice choice of scenery!

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cottonwood Canyon Boi

  • @oooooo3839
    @oooooo3839 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can see several reasons for the change in style: 1. the heel is higher, so it would stay on more like a shoe than a sandal, 2: there are more warps (which are stronger) near the toe than the first style, so it would last longer, 3: it looks like the top of the instep is able to be tightened around the inner cushioning and warmth lining materials, just as we tighten our shoelaces, whereas the first shoe looks as if it was woven to a set circumfrence.
    You may want to check out a different directionand a different part of the world for more answers about ancient american tech. I teaveled the south and southwest with a new immigrant raised decades ago at a village on the Arabian Sea who was familiar with basket weaving techniques and woven shoes displayed at a museum in Memphis from a mound culture. A few days later at a SW museum: this person was familiar with both large grinding stones, and with a small flat grinding stone ( the display posited it may be a window cover, but to this person it was definitely a stone for grinding fine things, like eye makeup.) There was a stone with a groove made around the circumference in a display that said it was not known what the groove was for (perhaps the question was for schoolchildren) and it was explained the stone was tied with a rope to the cover of the clay water jar serving as a weight to secure the cover it down, as water stored in clay is cooler in the hot desert climate, and even the construction of the SW stone dwelling was similar to this person's grandfathers house. Stones were also used to weigh down the roofs. Then, lastly in Santa Fe we saw the similarity to double-necked wedding vases in Pakistan/India and in the American SW, except it was noted the ones in India are made of metal, not clay. After that trip, I wondered if Columbus was not so far off the mark after all when he named the people of the Americas Indians. Perhaps many answers to questions about ancient American tech can be found in Asia.

    • @cillyhoney1892
      @cillyhoney1892 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Native Americans came from Asia so it makes sense that there would be similarities. Even now the Native Siberians the Nenets live in leather teepees and wear beads and feathers for ornaments.

  • @pmboston
    @pmboston 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were there people living in Britain in the younger dryas? Pretty icy. Not many rabbits either. Morris dancing is moorish dancing so I guess not Stone Age. But the shoes were so cool. Loved the video.

  • @Thrashdragon
    @Thrashdragon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Weave gotta do more archeological studies to be shoe of why that design transition occurred

    • @andrewgu2457
      @andrewgu2457 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thrashdragon *slow clap*

    • @Thrashdragon
      @Thrashdragon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      * exaggerated bow

    • @StefanMilo
      @StefanMilo  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bravo that man

  • @michieldeprez4025
    @michieldeprez4025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This might be an example of continuity since the stone age in Britain: A study from 2014 that examined the role of Mesolithic hunter gatherers in structuring Scotland’s woodlands looked at the archaeobotanical remains of 47 sites dating between 8600 and 4000 cal BC. One of the results was that on 70% of the sites they found Hazel nutshells, with very large concentrations on at least 4 sites (on the site of Staosnaig F24 for example they found the fragment remains of between 30.000 and 40.000 whole hazelnuts.
    It could of course be that these hunter gatherers simply collected the hazelnuts but given the very large quantities Bishop (the author of the article) finds it likely that they pruned the hazel trees to increase the nut production. This practice is very common on British commercial hazelnut farms since ( at least) the 19th century and it might have originated in the Mesolithic.
    It will probably never be more than a hypothesis but I think it’s a plausible one!
    Source: Firewood, food and human niche construction: the potential role of Mesolithic hunter-gatherers in actively structuring Scotland’s woodlands by Rosie R. Bishop et al.

    • @Cheeseatingjunglista
      @Cheeseatingjunglista 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @EEETALYANO p Dear me, Bible basher are we?

    • @kabivose
      @kabivose 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @EEETALYANO p by that time Jericho had impressive walls. It was a substantial city by 8000BC. Who was there if it wasnt Homo sapiens? Denisovans? Neanderthals?

  • @richard1590
    @richard1590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my theory on the change in style, after years of the same shoe perhaps they had a predictable wear pattern where more often than not is where they would break first, so one weaver put a bit more effort in to solve that to make their shoes to solve that issue with the old design and the better design just caught on as improvements tend to

  • @teaser6089
    @teaser6089 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "This shoe is 9600 years old"
    "But it doesn't look a year over 200"
    "Buy them now, second hand, 99,99$! Best Deal!"

  • @dunerh
    @dunerh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The reason why Europeans don't have any cultural links to their stone age predecessors is largely that of the fact that nearly no culture or languages survived the Indo-European invasion. Besides tiny pockets of remaining people, ie the Basques and the native people of Crete, the only remaining non-IE peoples are suspected to have arived after the IE invasion. These people include the Magyars (Hungarians), the Bulgars and the Finish people. And most of these people are of Ural decent, so even they don't have any link to the stone age culture of native Europeans.

    • @stephena1196
      @stephena1196 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a cultural link with the Stone Age in Britain. Stonehenge was built in the Neolithic and archeologists have found evidence of mid-winter feasting there. We have mid-winter feasting now, we call it Christmas.

    • @shadymerchant1198
      @shadymerchant1198 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephena1196 sure but Christmas is hardly a direct continuation of the old druidic winter festivals

    • @Jacob-yg7lz
      @Jacob-yg7lz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The IE invasion wasn't a total and utter assimilation. Some aspects of the native populations cultures, as well as most of their genetics, survived afterwards. The Roman Empire, migration period, and Christianity did also help root out a lot of old traditions tho.

    • @dunerh
      @dunerh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stephena1196 that was a Germanic tradition, not a pre IE one

    • @christophermiller4471
      @christophermiller4471 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could also have mentioned the Sámi people (also known as Lapps) of northern Scandinavia.

  • @sylviajustice5013
    @sylviajustice5013 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A theory on shoes. They increased their technology on making those cords and they made them thinner. The thinner the cords, the easier they are to tie. Maybe before, they made the cords too thick to tie into a bow. So maybe they found a new type of bush or produced the twine better, and now they could make those thinner cords.

  • @mikmop
    @mikmop ปีที่แล้ว

    There was one particular shoe that was made from "Foo Bird" excrement combined with hay. Which is where we got the saying: If the Foo shits, wear it.

  • @kristbane
    @kristbane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most likely reason for the style change is that ancient aliens shared their shoe technology.

  • @rockbore
    @rockbore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid.
    Weave and spin tech is often cited as the beginning of the industrial revolution with Compten's Mule.
    Maybe someone used a new application of an available material to allow for an improvement in the manufacture of the shoe, like the Mule, only less elaborate but equally as useful. Maybe just a faster make of shoe to produce. Also, it looks a little stronger with more lateral tie-in weaves.

  • @SimonSozzi7258
    @SimonSozzi7258 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:30 I think that with the laces they can fit more sizes. The others were very made to fit. Maybe the materials, the grasses or reeds became less abundant..?.

  • @pierrec1590
    @pierrec1590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Europe during that period, populations probably concentrated in the fertile valleys of Doggerland. Today's Europe would have been higher, colder and less hospitable.