the rawagede massacre and the invading of middle east by usa/ally{dutch} coalition army seems to be forgotten thats rich, not to mention supporting israel palestinian genocide by the dutch gov. the dutch must be an angel /s with ..oh soo TOLERAnt they are... 😂😂😂
@@fishingenthusiast0 putting aside the invading of the middle east drama, because it's a bad faith argument on something that wouldn't ever have happened if said middle east would just stop killing eachother. After a quick read-up, it would seem that it was Dutch people, who went after the truth, who uncovered the lies of the government, and ultimately got even a sliver of justice for the victims. Any massacre is, inherently of course, an unforgivable act. What are the chances of walking up to a Dutch person, showing them what happened, and said Dutch person not condemning the atrocities of the Royal Netherlands East Indies Army that day? The actions of a small group of people, generations ago, can not, should not, and will not define an entire culture and ethnicity. Even so, our current government has apologized in person about the events that occured. So yes, I'd say it is forgotten. But it also happened nearly a century ago. There are not many people alive now, who were alive at the time of this event. It's an unforgivable act, but the people who performed said act are gone. There is no one to persecute. We can only move on in our own generation and ensure something similar doesn't happen again. Ever.
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You very much can, I'm in Jordan, where 90% are Muslims and you can do whatever you want no one cares, unless you obviously start spreading hate towards others is where the line is drawn
They don't have any representation in media, business or parliament. They have to pay extra tax to survive in Muslim majority country & also get 3rd class citizen treatment
@@shazzshank6393 Actually, inbreeding is incredibly uncommon in the Netherlands. On the other hand, cousin marriages, which are a form of inbreeding, are culturally common in some countries, such as Pakistan, and are more prevalent in many Muslim-majority countries. It’s important to be accurate when discussing these things rather than relying on stereotypes
And a lot of the time that's exactly what happens. We're not talking about a single entity though, it's a country full of individuals, just like the rest of the world. Some act good, some do not. It's not rocket surgery.
Islamists don't care about the culture or laws of any country, they want to force Islamic laws and culture on everyone like they do in every country they control. Middle Eastern countries used to have diverse and unique cultures, now they have all been replaced by Islam. Look up "Middle Eastern culture before and after Islam" images, it's sad. That's what will happen to Europe if people don't wake up.
@@affanhasby822 Firstly, Islamic countries force hijabs on women and girls, so it's fair for non-Islamic countries to ban them. Secondly, many people like teachers in non-Islamic countries have reported that girls were harassed and threatened with violence and even death by Muslim boys for not wearing hijab, so banning them is protecting those girls and women from Islamists.
@@affanhasby822 Then there is question, should some religions get free pass, would Sikhs not be allowed to wear Turbans, Jews Kippahs and Hindu Bindis? Should we designate some religions as particular problems and then discriminate against those selectively, most European institutions would find that as a form of harassment, requiring overhaul of the Dutch constitution.
Yes, but you have to realize that their religion makes them pray and thank Allah at least three times per day for giving them such a peaceful existence in our lovely little 'doe nou maar normaal' kikkerlandje. 'Glad to be Dutch' is what their constant prayers translate into. And they're right, of course.
@@FrankHeuvelman Nah bro, if you observe the trend, wherever islam is rejected, muslims grow more islamic, they tend to be stronger in adversity. If you look at the places that don't care if muslims are there, you would find muslims straying away from islam more, unless ofcourse the government forces them like in Arab.
If you make all these people feel like second-class citizens, which is not abnormal for locals, you make them embrace their culture and religion even more because they also need an identity. For those of us who don't live abroad, away from our home country, it is hard to understand the difficulties. But yes, in Türkiye, you don't see a lot of people praying that much, especially among the younger generations.
@@Nordic_Sky I'm curious to know how tolorent would the migrants in the Netherlands be towards the intolerance of the people of the Netherlands in this regard ?
Wrong question, bc intolerance is an ambivalent concept, and also bc many fundamentalists would say, we do tolerate your evil, depraved society, we tolerate you too much. No: the right question is, the interests and values of the majority versus the values of a minority, who should win? If your religious values are in opposition to the laws and customs of the country YOU CHOSE to make your home, you don't get to change the new place, you lose, and there should be no apology for that. That's democracy: majority rules. The incompatible people are free to leave and go back to the place where their values are mainstream.
It is a well known paradox in philosophy, that for an open and tolerant society to exist, one must be intollerant towards intolerance. Philosopher Karl Popper first theorized it and it is still a very important concept behind modern (post WWI) western european open societies.
It‘s not the same in Sweden. You have no go zones in your cities and your girls are being raped and murdered left and right. You also have no Wilders of your own, because you have no balls to elect one. Dutch have turks and marrocans, these are the mildest muslims in the world. You have sirians, iraqis, afghans and pakistanis.
nobody is forcing you to not have kids, nor are the migrants attacking your culture or values, all of that is man made anyways. Remember what swedes did to the samerna? That is actual oppression
nobody is forcing you to not have klds, nor are the mlgrants attacking your culture or values, all of that is man made anyways. Remember what swedes did to the samerna? That is actual 0ppression
n0b0dy is forcing you to not have klds, nor are the mlgrants attacking your cvltvre or valuez, all of that is man made anyways. Remember what sw3des did to the samerna? That is actual 0ppr3ssion
TH-cam keeps censoring me but what I want to say is that m1grantz are not in anyway attacking your “culture” and “values” bro. It’s very hypocritical when not so long ago the Swedes did something I cannot say to the sami peoples.
Big mistake concentrating one single culture in a location. This is why Singapore often intervened to make sure neighbourhoods didn’t become associated with a certain ethnic group
The issue usually sorts itself out in a few centuries. We still have China towns in the US. But our asian communities spread out over time to chase economic opportunities. Now they only return to China towns, or Korea towns to buy food from the home country.
@@Ronnie_Animate No wonder race relations in the US are the way there are. You just described the ghetto perfectly. Already with black Americans there is tension. And this is despite the geographical size of the US. I guess i forgot to mention that Singapore is one of the most densely populated countries in the world with almost 8000 people per square km, which necessitates their proactive approach to race relations. Malaysia, Singapore's neighbouring country, let the problem grow so bad that there are schools for each of the country's main ethnic groups, one of the reasons why racism is so deep seated in Malaysia, made even worse by their bumiputera policy, which legally enshrines greater preferential rights for the ethnic majority Malays over the other ethnicities.
One culture in a location is the historical and natural norm for culture. Singapore "intervening" to prevent people of a single culture from living together is approaching Soviet Union tiers of totalitarianism. In fact the Soviet Union under Lenin used the same strategy to quell ethnic and national revolts against the regime. Multiculturalism takes away the ability for people to rise up against a regime on a collective basis.
@@user-qr6eb4jg9n here we go again: Singapore is supposedly a 'totalitarian' country and a police state. It has gotten so bad that when I tell this to Singaporeans they burst out laughing and tell me that i might have mistaken it for North Korea! On a more serious note, you may want to open a history book and look what happened in both Singapore and Malaysia in the late 60's. Both countries had ethnic race riots that almost turned into anarchy. Is this what you call 'rising up' against the regime? Singapore went from being a third world country to a first world country. The way you arrogant white Europeans are going, you may one day wake up to find yourselves a third world country.
Discarding your own culture and identity in favor of multiculturalism, thinking that the world is all sunshine and rainbows and that others would share your views of tolerance is pick naivety.
Problem is the Dutch are so well indoctrinated they can't see the difference between the moon shining on a dark night or havinng their head stuck up the azz of someone that opens his or her mouth. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
they were either asked about the bible instead of the Quran or they really are stupid enough to believe that because some people have different beliefs they should be allowed to ignore the law of the country
As a moroccan I can say that this is a shame on everyone who does crimes in other countries , u had the chance to have a better life quality, but u choose to be stupid and pay the country by being against everything in that country , and choosing loyalty to the relegion , that gived u nothing in ur country, don't be dogmatic, open ur brains... bc this is leading to a chaos that nobody wants ,but everybody will fight ...
@@shazzshank6393 Crime and safety in Poland on the whole is quite similar to the Netherlands. It's still much poorer though so few migrants want to live their even if you opened the borders. Birth rates are plummeting too so it's not looking to good for Poland in the long run.
The majority of my co-workers are all foreigners, who I initially thought were mostly transfer students who were working a part time job. Then I found out most of them had been in the Netherlands for near of a decade! And none of them bothered to learn a lick of Dutch, only broken English with thick accents so the majority of your time is wasted on trying to understand what the other is saying than getting anything done at a pace. Who the hell do you think you are!? Imagine if I migrated to France and just expected the french to constantly having to use english. Migration has gotten so bad, I honestly cannot think when the last time was I had a full conversation on a daily basis in my own language. Unbelievable!
You shouldn't complain about the people, you should complain to your boss. Who the f* hires people who don't speak the language they need to communicate to do their job? 😂 I'm Dutch and I'm a manager. I don't mind at all if people don't speak Dutch, as long as their English is at least near fluent.
dont complain about them speaking english if you refuse to speak dutch to them. I have several colleques who are in the netherlands for a year or two, and still every other dutch person refuses to speak dutch with them, even if they ask. How are they supposed to learn dutch if you keep switching to english?
i didnt see dutch engineers living in Egypt learning a lick of arabic as well. I am an expat, living and working here for some years, why the hell would i learn dutch ?
Always has been. We have mistaken it for the key to societal success, while plenty of societies out there that are much more homogenuous have also been succesful.
@@Elucidator- The Netherlands have never been homogeneous to begin with though. Not even before the rise of non-whites immigration. It was always Protestants vs Catholics, Frisians vs Hollanders, East vs West, Royalists vs Republicans. The Netherlands has only been united for 200 years give or take unlike a country like Japan that is united since the 1600s and has fought bloody wars for hundreds of years to make it homogenous aka commit genocide.
@@smashman8828 Yes but you didnt take shit either, You didnt bow to Spain for example, now you are in fact afraid, you are bowing before people who wont extend tolerance back.
It's not. He is refering to culture, fanatism/narrowmindness, religion and faith as one thing. Clearly, there is islamic faith in other countries and works without issues. When you collapse all into one "islam is blah blah and blah" then you are a adding yourself as candidate for the award populist of the year.
@@chat-1978 And not only that. You can clearly see, now the PVV and Geert Wilders have rose to power, they are only focusing on immigration and ignoring all the other problems we have, which get worse as a result.
- Not equal are the good and the bad response. You shall resort to the one which is better. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend. - Fussilah:34, Quran Almighty Don't believe everything you have heard in the media.
@@HeavyMedal 41;34 Good and evil cannot be equal. Respond ˹to evil˺ with what is best, then the one you are in a feud with will be like a close friend. They will never become friends with others as long as they follow that teaching ! Why ? Because that teaching is full with hatred against the unbeliever or believer in a different religion. "Respond to evil", means hate those that are not like you. That religion is against tolerance ! The whole goal of that teaching is Salam, which means the peace that is there when the whole world lives according to Islamic rules. So that religion its goal is to convert the whole world to Islam. There is no peace possible with people that life according to that strategy as their as intolerant as is possible of people that choose to life by other beliefs. Islam does not accept the way we western people look at life. The religious teaching is basically illegal ,as its against "the free choice of religion". And that is why there will always be trouble between Islamic people and people that believe in other ways of life ! Islam simply is not tolerant towards others, but rather teaches its followers to replace those that life by different rules of living. You never wil be real friend with someone that you force your religion on as then your dominating that "friend", and then no one wants to be your friend, unless they do not know what your teaching is about.
I am a non European but non Muslim immigrant in Belgium... There are 70% Muslims in the integration class so majority.. and one of them legit had the audacity to come and tell me that I should cover my hair everyday like I did on one cold windy day in Belgium with my shawl... That is why I am on my process now to return to my country coz that's way less Islamic and no one tells me there to cover my hair... Poorer I may be but my hair gonna be shiny and waving in the wind like a flag of my freedom atop my head
first of all, it is NOT "islamic" for people to tell you that. infact it is forbidden to tell someone to wear a hijab if they do not want to, it should only be worn out of willingness. secondly, you call it a flag of freedom, I see it as a tag of enslavement. I mean in Islam, no one tells you what your hair should look like, what kind of curls are ugly and which are beautifyul, what type of colours are "in" and which are outdated. in islam, you just wear something to cover the beauty of your hair because Allah asked you to. and in a sence, it is like cheating on your husband with every man who sees it. it is something that should be between you and your husband. you ofcourse probably disagree, but let me give you something you can compare it to. it is like having a husband or boyfriend, and seeing him flex his muscles or wear something that shows off his muscles in an area with a lot of girls. or if this person goes up to a girl and starts flirting with her. that is pretty much the same way you would be disrespecting your husband if you were a muslima, aswell as disrespecting Allah for giving you that beautyfull hair. also, you are literally leaving a country because someone told you to cover your hair, when you get indirectly blasted with messages that say "you should wear this product". you women are not free, the market is literally conning you into thinking you are free. you have only chosen a different master. once you accapt that that is the truth, you will understand why muslims are muslims, and nothing else.
Weird story, especially to leave a country since one person told you something. Also, if you see mainly Muslims, in which region of Belgium were you? And where are you from?
@@4nz-nl Not weird at all, it's happening all over Europe. Muslim immigrants force their own ideology and way of life on everyone else in the country and the left wing Europeans go along with it because they are utter idiots. When even the Belgian police absolutely refuses to enter certain neighborhoods within the capital of Brussels than you know something is very, very, wrong. And it's not just Belgium, the same sentence would be correct for the French police and certain Parisian neighborhoods and there are many other similar examples across Europe(and not just with capital cities either).
Man,some of the stories I read on the internet,sound so fvcking fake...Like i'm a non-hijabi Muslim girl born & raised in a very conservative Muslim country (Bangladesh🇧🇩) And yet i've never had anybody come up & tell me that i apparently must cover my head (despite 50-60% of my friends being hijabi) So,it sounds super fvcking unrealistic that some migrant muslim kid in Belgium told a non-muslim to wear hijab. And not only that,but also the fact you're literally leaving the country for that. Cuz,you apparently can't dress freely in BELGIUM? Whatever,i strongly feel you're making up stories to receive likes & promoting unnecessary harmful prejudice
I checked your profile info. You're an indian hindu😂lol. And you're saying india has better women's rights than Belgium?? 😂😂 You're more deluLu than i thought 🤣
Oh, here's where it's a truly forbidden topic: North America. Here's the thing: im an immigrant, came in with my parents at age 10. But, when you decide to immigrate, you BETTER BE OKAY with the ways of the new place. No, you don't try to change the country to better suit you! The problem is that Islam believes they are entitled to change the world, that they have that mission.
You said it right. Muslims moved away from the countries that they and they religion and ideology made shit, and then they want to make the country they moved into, the same exact shit as their own country.
@@rientsdijkstra4266 Intentionally or not doesn't matter. It just shows that the people/culture/religion he criticises demands special rights and doesn't want to abide by the laws of the host country and want to instead physically harm somebody who is lawfully vocal about these cultures and people. You are just proving his point.
@rientsdijkstra4266 No he did not! Elements that do not respect core democratic values are doing the killing an silencing. He is just courageous to voice his critique anyway.
Wilders is right about Islamism. But many people from Muslim countries such as Iran, Syria or Turkey are not Muslims, they are Kurds, Yazidis, humanists or Christians and are fleeing Islam. Sending them home is simply wrong. Sending Islamists or gray wolves home is good, but not the people fleeing from them. He was also very confused about Russia - the same goes for the EU. His opinion against Islamism is important, but he needs to learn to differentiate.
dude what? Only thing you are right about humanist activist part, and it is not much right tho. You might talk about LGBT and pro democracy activists but Kurds and Armenians? Nah I live in Turkey and basically I had both Armenian and Kurd friends. About Kurd people they are basically the same with Turkish people and they are Muslim(mostly). I don't understand how you can say they are not? Some of them even more religious. About Armenians there are some Muslim and Christian Armenians who live in Turkey, there might be some difficulties about society for them which I didn't witness (I say that because I had Armenian friends). And most of Armenians I see in my city are living better than an average Turkish person. Btw I do know there are Kurd people who seek asylum in European countries even in Japan, and they cause more unrest, there was an post from a Japanese person who talks about these Kurds and he was saying one of them even said "If you don't want us here, you go somewhere else." which is completely nonsense. About these people who seek asylum I can say with confidence they are fooling you, Europe's living standarts better. So thats why they do that. But about immigrants in your country I am not one of them so that's not my concern, I hope you find a "humanist" solution for that.
@@Black-pk6rv I know many Kurds and Iranians in Germany. All of them are Humanist an Feminist and love Israel. GAMAAN Institute made a survey and found out, that the majority of Iranians are secular and don’t believe in God. I think it’s just very wrong to send those people to a place where they get suppressed for what they are. But yes of course there are many people here who believe in political Islam or Turan and similar weird stuff, and that is a problem. I think you should only become citizenship when you accept the state of Israel.
broeder ik ben moslim en dit soort videos en weet ik veel wat is enkel en alleen maar om het land te polariseren. We zien hoe het gaat alles wordt steeds duurder, dit kunnen we nu niet hebben.
Ja dat vond ik ook vreemd, maar ik denk dat dat meer is in relatie tot het idee dat men voelde dat vrijheid van meningsuiting begon te verdwijnen. Of het nou ging om Islam of andere dingen, maar het voegt toe aan de spanning van toen.
Europe is going down if it does not urgently address the impact of immigration from Islamic countries. Despite clear challenges associated with integration and security, left and green parties continue to advocate for open-door policies. Meanwhile, much of the population remains either unaware or unwilling to confront the realities of these policies and their long-term implications. Without decisive action, Europe’s future stability and cultural cohesion will be in jeopardy.
Try finding a fundamentalist islamic nation with a strong economic outlook for lower to middle class workers. Most of the islamic nations that have any kind of wealth to them have it due to oil exports. Come to think of it, they'd best pray that the electrical transition doesn't happen too quickly, once their primary export is no longer in demand, the mideast is going to have some bad times...
@@EdwardNortonSSS tell me three unsafe Muslim countries. The only rule is that you can't talk about a country that was invaded/attacked by the US/Europe.
@@Tokyo1889 Nice try. Literally every Muslim Country is one that was invaded by Muslims to begin with so your argument doesn't work. Unless you want to argue that the siege of Vienna was a "mostly peaceful protest".
Living in Europe since 13 years, came here in my 20s and I must say that this has been the best decision I've made. I love the freedom and individualism here and I am well integrated and fully open to assimilate my next generations and raise them as locals. At the end of the day, if I were happy with the culture and politics back where I came from, I would have stayed.
Those ppl will never view you as a "local" at best they can accept you living there if you keep on distancing yourself from your culture and strip away every ounce of dignity you've got
@Rxcvv-rn8gw perhaps he knows about the slavery and piracy anti christian past of north-africa, which officialy ended in 1816 thanks to a naval assault on the city of alger
Geert Wilders view of the dangers of Islam is the logical conclusion for a rational person to come to after learning a bit of history about countries where Muslims are the majority, more people would understand his view if they put some time in to learning about it. more people need to be honest about it before its too late
forget "Muslim countries" most of which are ruled by people with political ambitions and real will to implement Islam rulings, and go learn about Islam, Islam calls for equity love and peace, it is a beautiful religion
Anyone who's ever studied islamic history knows that it has only really been since the creation of the state of Israel that the rule changed that a Jew or Christian is far safer in Muslim lands than a Muslim or Jew is in Christian lands. Hell, in the 1840's the Ottoman Empire had to make public statements and laws to stop Christian communities from committing blood libel against their Jewish neighbours
I life in the netherlands, and I like to keep it like that. It's not just islam who's pushing their believe to us,it's a lot of things, like ZWARTE piet. It's also the size of our little piece of the world that's just full. In my opinion, Wilders is in most cases pretty discriminative, but in many he's right. I think a human is a human, no matter what, but respect the rules, the culture and believe the country you live in.
The difficulty in the Netherlands is the mentioned tolerancy that is fundamental for the Dutch culture. The question is how can you protect your culture from others if part of that culture is the tolerance and invitation of other cultures? It's a difficult balance but one thing is clear: Even though the Netherlands should be a tolerant country, there should be line between allowing Islamic people to live there and allowing Islamic people to change the culture.
Tolerance isn't part of our culture. It never was, and amongst the people it still isn't the case. Maybe of the two Holland provinces, but not the entire country. The problem is we keep telling ourselves it is the case and there's a severe imbalance when it comes to geographical background within the country and who are present in the tweede kamer. Our politics have nothing to do with what people speak out between four walls and what their opinions truly are. If you're too open to speak your mind, you risk losing your job or whatever. How often do you hear about policies being introduced to our country where people never voted for desipte their party is actually ruling? It's time to quit lying to ourselves. We want our country back. I welcome every human in the globe to come to our country, make yourself home, it's open to everyone, but only when you adopt one of our cultures, respect it. You can show off your own,throw parties, teach us, but don't expect to accommodate us. If it's a possible danger? Then it's time to abandon parts of your identity or move back. It's easy.
@@BeesKneesBenjamin Adopt to your culture ? You can't even speak dutch with slight foreign accent as people will attack you for being a foreinger, you are clearly deluded.
@shazzshank6393 I will be nice and give you the attention you crave as no one else does I am just curious how you know that about The Netherlands when you are from Poland as you spammed over the comment section
I wished we Dutch people realized this type of issues more faster. I'm sad, not because i want to be racist. Far from it. I've become racist towards them due to the VERY WELL proved issues that constantly plague our society. I am frustrated on how things are handled. If anything, concerned for my country as my culture as well.
"I'm sad, I don't want to be racist". Come on dude, quit the nonsense. If you're racist, you are because you want to, and because there is no one close enough to you that is affected by it. I'm Dutch too, born and bred. My two best friends are Dutchmen of Moroccan descent. One is a business owner, the other one has a wonderful job and a University degree and they're still being held back and treated as second class citizens in the country they were born in. This means: They probably would have done even better, paid more tax, invested more in OUR country, had we actually been tolerant and not racist. We cannot hold them responsible for people who are not even their family. Alongside that, it's very well proven that the issues we have in our society have f* all to do with the type of roots people have, and everything with social status. We could say that things will even out as our current cabinet is taking a large chunk of the funds out of our public school system. More people will be poor, we will have more criminals, and the rich (including those two Moroccan guys and essentially, you could say me, too) will get richer. For the sake of our country, grow a pair and read yourself into some sense.
@@theinngu5560 Yup, it's not racist to not like poor behaviour. It is racist to allow poor behaviour from some people while punish it from others, and that's exactly what's happening here in NL.
@@4nz-nl Netherlands poverty rate is the lowest in its history. Your attempt to blame the Dutch for not being tolerant enough for Moroccan gang crimes is disgusting
Geert Wilders is a advocate for the Dutch language, culture, borders, safety and well being of Citizens of the Netherlands. He is a hero and great leader. God bless him👏🙏👏🙏👏🙏
als oud antifa lid ben ik het met jou en geertje eens, vol is vol en genoeg is genoeg.. maar eerlijk hoezo geweldige leider? wat heeft ie tot nu toe gedaan behalve op de zorg en onderwijs bezuinigen?
It's the same thing in Canada, we get called racist when saying we need to focus on our own citizens first and stop giving out visas/taking on more foreign students. Tired of employers scamming the govt for money to hire said foreign workers n students. I can't find work, the country full go elsewhere
Student visas are being abused as a back door to immigration. UK recently kicked out a Pal. girl studying law in London, an obvious scam. what good are British law degree in Pal, and they do not offer degrees in Sharia law in UK. Especially for a woman who is not even allow much right to be in court.
@@maximillianafrancine1451 We do not need the popping up, Then it cost us much more later when they apply to stay forever and to get their families here.
Canada has some of the strictest rules on work visas in the western world, possibly the strictest. The reason the intake of foreign workers is so high, is because there is a high demand for them in the job market (because there is a high demand for their services from people already living in Canada). The connection between immigrants and housing prices is that the housing market wasn't prepared for the influx and the government (and employers, who do not take this into account) did not take measures to deal with this foreseeable consequence. You can blame the government for that, but it's hard to blame immigrants for coming over when the country (as represented by the government and by employers) asks them to...
The question was framed differently for Christians. Here's the original question from the study: “The rules of the Bible [the Koran] are more important to me than the laws of [survey country].” Here's the full study if you're interested: wzb.eu/system/files/docs/sv/iuk/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf
Great content, the same is happening in France, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Hungary, Luxembourg, Poland, Sweeden and the list is ever-growing....
@@fromsuncity1 I would say that the countries of the EU have a policy problem. We could also say that the UK is no longer in the EU and they have the same issue, Switzerland never was in the EU and this situation also affects them... I would say that the "open arms" policy is the issue here.
the reason why we "can't" talk about this is because 1 side of the debate refuses to acknowledge ANY of the points made by the other, and simply slanders and attacks the person making those points, instead of the points themselves. combine that with a one sided political majority, and a media catering exclusively to that side's agenda, and you get a society where you get ostracized for even asking a question that they think will be bad for the agenda.
Wow, stop usiang and saying migration background! Migrants can be from Eastern Europe, people that share same culture and traditions!!! It is the muslims that are problem, not ALL migrants!
"Migrationshintergrund" heißt dass vor bis zu 3 Generationen einer deiner Vorfahren nicht Deutsch war. Kein anderes Land rechnet so weit zurück. Damit ist das halbe Ruhrgebiet polnisch etc. The German definition of migration background goes back three generations of ancestors and is so broad that most of the country that never even knew a family member who spoke a foreign language is included in the term. This is what needs to change first so people can actually have a coherent debate and statistics. The problem is not that too many have "Migrationshintergrund". Germany as a country in the middle of Europe has always been pretty mixed. The issue is that there's schools with too many kids who don't speak German or know the culture outside of their migrant community.
@@giod6266Muslims specifically because that religion is stuck in the past for most of the Muslim population, that’s why many Muslim countries have an increasing secular and atheist population against an oppressive religion. So all of the “traditional” Muslims escape to the pagan west lol.
@@giod6266 In Britain, migrants from Eastern Europe were not considered same background, crime was spiking and benefits taken, one must only put on the TV in 2015 and find dozens of examples. That's why Brexit happened.
The history of mass immigration is filled with incidents like this. When millions of Italians came over to the USA, there were huge problems of segregation, mafia, religion, but in 2-3 generations they became more American than apple pie. Similarly Irish migration to Liverpool and Glasgow resulted in the return of the orange order in those places and mass riots but now they have become a part of Glasgow and Liverpool, despite huge issues in the past. In San Francisco they kicked out the Chinese, and it made the city worse, huge loss of labor, same with Japanese during WW2. It will take time, but new cultures are made by the intermixing of the old, can you say the US is worse for having Italians, or Liverpool worse for having Irish people. It was deeply unpopular at the time.
@@sadiqkhawaja7019 lebanon took palestine refugees now the country failled that used to be middle eastern switzerland. iran and iraq was so much better in 70s now what happen with islamization ? pakistan was so much ahea of india in 70s . then they made it more islamic and look at it now. you want me to talk about afghanistan? is there any day in middle east with a peaceful day? something is alreay going on . what happened to yezidi women in yemen iraq syria? their culture their clothes their languages everything is history. israel on the other hand were treated worse whole history has given so much to the world but none of you guys want them alive or leave their homeland alone. see whats the common problem here? even that austrain painter would would be shy of what mohommad has committed and people do to this day listenin to it. fastest growing lol. even coronavirus spread very fast as well until vaccine came. i wish the day when islam will just remain in history books in a dark corner
*I don’t get it - why aren’t 🕉️Hindus, ☸️Buddhists, 🪯Sikhs or ✡️Jews also disliked in a similar manner despite also not being indigenous to the 🇳🇱Netherlands?*
Because they mostly keep to themselves and dont cause problems others, on top of immigrating into our society. There's an intergration facility for immigrants at my school and I had the chance to meet some of the 3rd years of the place, all muslims, barely any of them spoke a word of Dutch, when they've been in the Netherlands for a good while already. Meanwhile, a few of my neighbours are Indian, have moved here about 3 years ago as well, and they speak, not fluent, but very understandable Dutch. This difference is why a lot of people, including me, dislike muslims, because it feels like they want to undermine our own rules, traditions and culture and replace it with their own. It doesn't feel like they care in the least for the country they're in, but desperately want to cling to the culture they came from. If they want that culture so bad, they can go right back home if you ask me. Same goes for the illegal immigrants.
If Western Country being "intolerant" with immigrant because culture, then when western come to eastern or middle east THEY should be *tolerant* to middle east and eastern culture. No Nude and shorts.
As a Russian living in the Netherlands, I agree that migrants should adapt to the host country’s culture, not the other way around. If I were Dutch, I would have voted for Wilders as well
I don't understand why you keep calling Wilders an extremist when he's been 100% correct all along. Yes, the Dutch were champions of the early Humanist movement in Europe and have developed into one of, if not the most, tolerant European culture. However Europeans simply didn't understand what Islam was as they never bothered to truly learn about it, just fight against it throughout history. Thus when the 20th century came and Europe's demographic problems begun, Islam creeped further and further inside Europe itself and the Europeans were still ignorant to just how much they were shooting themselves in the feet. Wilders is one of the first people who not only understood this but had the courage to speak out against it, in times where it was extremely unpopular to do so. It doesn't change the fact that he was 100% correct. What we want reality to be very often differs from what reality actually is. Even if we want to be extremely tolerant towards everyone, we need to understand that this can simply never happen. Islam, along with several other such groups, are not tolerant at all, in fact they are precisely everything Wilders have said for years and years. For tolerance to succeed it must be reciprocated. When it isn't problems arise, as Europe has seen for decades now but is only now finally beginning to open its eyes to.
Balanced and thoughtful, thanks for treating this very serious subject with the erudition it deserves. (Evenwichtig en attent, bedankt dat u dit zeer serieuze onderwerp met de eruditie hebt behandeld die het verdient)
yes and we have in fact been speaking about this since Pim Fortuyn. Actually, an exceptional amount of media attention is given to these politicians, so to say that 'The Dutch aren't speaking about this' is complete nonsense. It's a variation of moral panic of "You can't say anything anymore nowadays'. Yes you can, but when you're stating certain facts, be willing to give them context, what is the actual origin of the problem, and what would be the solution? If your solution is to close borders because we have a migration problem, perhaps look at the real reasons of that problem, who are a lot more complex than to say Islamic culture is backwards.
@@jesuisameliepoulain the quality of potential immigrants on this planet is quite limited. Imagine if the Islamic world said they need 5 million westerners per year going to their countries. We wouldn't be sending our best. As the world develops foreign countries retain more of their talent. The supply of talented immigrants is increasingly being split between 3 and 4 continents. There's probably only a 1 milllion people in the world with actual talent, wanting to come west. This isn't the 1990s. Asia is a land of opportunity for those with talent. Our politicians have borrowed away our futures on immigration. But they refuse to acknowledge how radical the shift has been. Immigration of any type is simply not sustainable. I don't mean we need less immigrants, we need basically zero.
This type of video should have been posted 5-7 years earlier. I lived in Rotterdam for 5 years and eventually left (I’m Chinese): 1. Rotterdam south is dangerous to visit at night. 2. You can see “certain counties” flag hanging on the cars while driving, seems like they love their country so much and strongly want to show off their nationality to the locals. 3. despite their population, very few enter Dutch universities. I have 3 Dutch born Chinese classmates and 0 from “certain countries “, with a much larger population base. 4. I have 1 colleague from “certain country “ , I don’t want to generalize it, but he literally cannot finish his job and disappeared without any reason. 5. I’m not into social science, but apparently there are countless study from institutes and SCP published something with data as evidence. But it is politically incorrect to discuss in the public. Quotes from : > If we lose our human nature, we lose much, but if we lose our bestial nature, we lose everything.
Question: You're Chinese, how did you get here? For knowledge, paid by your parents? Or were you born here? In the latter case, you are not Chinese. Then on your points: 1. Yes and no. Rotterdam south has the only more or less ghetto Rotterdam has. The city itself is not more dangerous than most other metropoles, I'd say it's less if anything (try London, NY, Moscow, or New Delhi to name a few) 2. Their nationality or their roots? And you are here pointing out the fact that you are Chinese, so what's the problem? 3. It's not about population. Especially Turks and Moroccans who are 3rd/4th generation are descendants of people who were brought here to do shit jobs. They were no knowledge migrants, and this is why i asked you how you got here: have you tried to climb a ladder yourself? Even through multiple generations, it's hard. I'm not in my current position because I'm a genius, I'm in my current position because my mom and dad already had an advantage and I didn't fuck it up. 4. If you don't want to say something, then don't. 5. It's never politically incorrect to discuss data, but it's incredibly hard to read data and get the right conclusions from it.
Most of these immigrants come from abusive environments since birth, and in the Islamic world, parental abuse is so common, that it's normalized in there, I myself am a victim of such kind of depraved deeds, I'm just lucky enough to resist the hate virus thanks to my powerful mind, unfortunately not everyone makes it.
"shortage of low skilled workers recruited from... thought they would return after some time", "The first generation worked long days for little money", housed in special residential areas" They were brought over from another country to work jobs the locals wouldn't do for longer hours and less money, in segregated areas. What does that sound like?
The first recruited workers (Indonesians) were housed in barbwire fenced camps right after WW2. It wasn't until the 60's that people were housed in rundown/demolition homes.
it sounds like italians moving to the USA in the XIX century, like spaniards fleeing to france in 1936 to escape the civil war, like russian becoming taxi drivers in europ after the 1917 revolution, like central americas citizens and mexicans trying to get in the US, like the muslims that had to leave birmania etc... but muslims in europ call on the uma brotherhood and have a long term plan called the coran
there is no such thing as a job nobody works, there's only ever a problem with the kind of compensation offered for jobs. The import of foreign especially low skill workers just serves to undercut the ability for workers to advocate for better wages and living conditions. these usually lower class people were most affected by the influx of foreign workers and were dismissed as ignorant racists when they tried to express their issues for decades already.
I also wonder why he didn't mention that research from the Erasmus University showed that those with a Moroccan and Antillian background are more often suspected of crimes then can be explained by their actual criminal conduct. Only 13% of the overrepresentation in suspect registrations can be attributed to their criminal conduct.
Antilles are a much smaller group of people, that makes them less significant to the story. Suriname is a very similar story but the public debate is tempered because of its historical connection with the Netherlands, but that doesn't mean it doesn't receive attention. They're on par with Turkish crime rates and they're a similarly sized group in the Netherlands.
I wonder who are these 12% of Christians who believe that rules of Koran are more important than the country laws. These are the people that you should put on a watchlist for sure.
@dinofzo the only thing bad about Christianity is its rampant proselytization attempts against Oriental religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Daoism, Confucianism, Shintoism, Tengrism, .etc). But Islam is completely rotten to the core - everything mentioned in the Quran is something straight out of a barbaric Dark Age.
If Dutch can't tolerate them... nobody in the West can. We should have learned from their experiences, but I wasn't even aware of what's happening there. Now I know. Thank you for this very informative episode!
Support Israel on it s expansion in the Levant. Receive more refugees and be tolerant. Barbara Spectre (a jeu) insisted that Europe can't live without multiculturalism.
As a Dutch born Chinese, I grew up in Rotterdam and my class was fully mixed with the Dutch ethnicity being a minority. The more problematic children were of Muslim religion.
Well, higher crime rates often depend on poverty. 30-40 years back in time, in my country a lot of people had prejudices and an negative im age of polish(Catholic) migrants. Just as for refugees, immigrants came for wealth as they suffer poverty. Poor people tend to have lower education standards and higher crime rates. Religion or country doesn't matter. When they had better education and no poverty they would not come. The Quran isn't more bloodthirsty than the Bible. Syrian refugees aren't more criminal that Polish. Muslim people aren't more aggressive than Christians. It's depending a lot more about the circumstances, not the religion.
The problem of Turkey-fication is two-fold: - kebab becomes new national dish - Istanbuli carpet salesmen will insistently be trying to sell you their carpets and act offended if you turn down their kind offer to drop by their store
12:16 all true, like, the youngest wife of the Muhammad was only 8 when he married her, the massacres carried out in his orders are well documented, and he did use terror tactics, as well as he did lose his mind around the 2 last chapters of Quran, wich is more of a book of him than a book of anything else
Correction: Aisha was only six, not eight. Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet (ﷺ) departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married `Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.
The larger part of Dutchmen of foreign descent and of recent immigrants are not orthodox Sunni Muslims, let it be islamists. As among people of Turkish decent, half of them are Alawites, Christians, liberal Sunnis or members of other minorities. The same holds true of recent immigrants from Syria and part of the refugees from Iraq. Immigrants from Iran are for the larger part critical of the Iranian regime and secular minded. A I see it, islam bashing is largely counterproductive as it drives liberal Muslims into the arms of orthodoxy or worse.
to add to this, people can believe what they want, but a must is speaking the dutch language coherently, don't push your own religion onto others who don't believe in it. and don't force your cultural norms on the Dutch people...
The generalisation of Muslims is truly astonishing. Your issue is with Sunni extremists and their failure to integrate into western society. Take the Ismailis as an example they are progressive, peaceful people. The Fatimid empire championed secularism and were more tolerant than any other European nation. Islam is practiced by more than 2 billion people they all have different interpretations of Islam and it’s unfair to judge them all in the same way. Did anyone condemn the entire Christian faith for the actions of Jim Jones ? How about for the actions of David Kuresh ? How is it fair to generalise a religion which is practiced by over 2 billion people for the actions of a minority.
As a foreigner who lives in the Netherlands, I have always defended the beautiful Dutch culture and language and will keep doing it. The Netherlands must stay the Netherlands
How much of what makes our culture great can we keep, if we start oppressing some minority group? And why not be confident that the Muslim immigrants, like all other previous immigrants, find their place, take on what is good about our culture, and find a way to live with the rest? I honestly think we need to think more about taxing expats. They come here, live on all that great government investment, and get a big tax break. Also the more affluent they are, the more likely it is that they use some sort of tax arbitrage to lower their contribution to our collective. And then they use that extra disposable income to bring a mayor imbalance to the housing market. Also I've never met anyone in finance who learned our language and very very few in IT. Unlike the Muslims, by attitude and action they clearly show they don't belong.
The Netherlands have given up their faith and have changed. What is the Netherlands ? What religion will you choose ? WIll you continue to change ? How do you know what is a good or a bad change ?
@@anxoidenamikaze1551Netherlands - Ideal Democratic Country Religion:- Atheism Change:- If pragmatic then why not Right wrong:-Just use humanity as a lens
those were christians from arab countries, they basically are islamic but just call it slightly differently, its so muslim countries can say they are diverse, like those churches they found that were used as weapons stockpiles
if you look at the crime numbers presented in this video, highest crime rate belongs to immigrants coming from Antilles, Morocco and Suriname. Lowest crime rates belongs to Turkish, Indonesian and Chinese. blaming Turkish people doesn’t make any sense here. Why he isn’t talking about Surinamese? most dangerous neighborhoods are where moroccans and surinamese live.
During the postwar rebuilding and the growing prosperity, most Dutch parents wanted their kids to be white collar managers, if possible. Blue collar job wages were preferably kept low and most Dutch didn't want them. Enter the "guest worker from abroad" phenomenon, which became a practice in Western European countries. The Swiss were the only ones with a long term thought-through approach. Guest worker licenses and visas were valid as long as work contracts lasted and settlement was clearly stated as being temporary. Many other countries (Germany, Netherlands, France, UK) were less strict about it. In the Netherlands, no trouble and funds were invested in integration and guest workers were supposed to find their own way around in Dutch society. Due to blue collar labor shortage, foreign workers remained necessary and according to Dutch law, employment for a few years in the same job earned the right to have a fixed job status. The situation of families staying behind and being maintained by money sent over, changed into families being moved over to the Netherlands and settled, united with the working head of the family. Guest workers now lived in communities and lived like they did in their home countries (own meeting places, own places of worship, own shops with goods from home, own neighbourhood elders and clergy), because integration and a strictly monitored compliance to Dutch society rules were still neglected. And don't forget the neglected aftermath and unfinished business from our colonial past. Multiculturalism was supposed to blossom on its own and right wrongs and solve differences, but it didn't. Multiculti efforts have largely been an exercise in overestimated political wishful thinking. The Swiss don't have these problems nearly as much, since they regulated things by law from the beginning, and enforce it. Foreigners are made sure to understand and agree to this before being allowed to stay and work in Switzerland. Additionally, the Swiss have no colonial past and are not morally required to repair damages and feel shame and guilt. So, the present situation should be no surprise. Which doesn't mean that the communities of guest workers and ex-colonial fellow countrymen are mainly criminal and unadapted; only a small portion of them really are. The awkward neglect seems to repeat itself when caring for refugees. Services for that are understaffed, politicians promise too much and people in the street are getting fed up, because the number of people to adopt is too big. The cherry on the cake is the fact that the reason for most refugees to come here in the first place (their homes and countries having been destroyed in wars started by the West), is neatly kept away from important national discussions. So, it's easy for our bleached loudmouth to spew cheap talk and "simple measures", but we still have to see his first practical contribution to a real solution yet. Wilders is our Trump, he makes popular sounds and oozes false hope, but is bought by the same money, bows to Israel and ultimately won't or can't deliver what he promised during elections. And i say all this as a white guy born in Holland, not as a guest worker.
Trump built the wall...unfinished during first term and about to be finished during his second term. You are unfair to Wilders, he's doing what no other politician dared to do. Give him time and more support and he will succeed in stopping the tide of Islamization in Holland!
There are far too many (guest workers) that do not work and fleece the country's benefits system like cock roaches and they are absolutely gross about it
I am a Brazilian digital nomad and an atheist. I have lived for a while in Morocco, Egypt, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and Indonesia, as well as in other countries around the world. However, in all of these Muslim-majority countries, there are many Christians, some are locals and many tourists, and they are treated very well. On the contrary, they love to get to know other cultures. I strongly recommend everyone to get on a plane and go and get to know other cultures. And yes. I know that there is a problem of differences in thinking between immigrants and locals in Europe. This is obvious because the values are different. Muslims still follow their fairy tales to the letter, while Christians have abandoned their medieval beliefs and no longer burn heretics at the stake. But there is one fact that we have to pay attention to. Immigrants are mostly people with little education and therefore have not had opportunities in their countries. When they arrive in Europe, they do not have the best working conditions, their children do not have the best schools and there is great prejudice among the European population that causes segregation of this population, preventing them from integrating into society. As an example, I will cite one case: in Brazil, there are 8 million descendants of Lebanese in a country of 220 million. But Brazilian society is so open to integrating foreigners as equals that all of them are completely integrated into our population and today all of them have the same values as Brazilian society, including adopting our religions. Of course, the case is different because Brazil, like the United States, is basically made up of immigrants. But this statement is true: Integration is the key.
You are right. That is why nobody cares. Nobody wants to actually solve the problem. Politicians profit from it and average person is too dumb to understand it. They literally took the poorest people from Morocco and Turkey then worked them very hard for little gain while segregating them. What else did they actually expect?
Hi, I am from a Jordanian Christian family (but I am personally an atheist), and I agree with what you said. Thank you for your kind words. I hope you had a nice time in Jordan
Yeah, except Lebanon is a special case within the Islamic world, still having a large(and functional) Christian demographic within the country whereas in any other Muslim majority nation its Christian population has all but vanished. Similarly the Islam itself is divided between Sunni, Shiite, Druze, etc, again unlike most other Islamic countries which have a clear majority for 1 sect or another. Also, sorry to burst your bubble but Brazil is not a first world nation. It may be tolerant to foreigners, by Brazilian standards at least, but the quality of life of the average Brazilian is significantly lower than the average European(even if we include 'problematic' Europe like the Balkans). That is to say that the differences between the middle class and the lower class are not as distinct in Brazil as they are in Europe, thus the envy levels aren't the same. It also helps that Brazil isn't dominated by people who are obsessed with alphabet rights, religious rights and whatnot. All that is to say that Brazil and the actual western world(Europe, North America and Australia/New Zealand) are very different beasts with very different issues.
It's source number 6 in my script, and it's on page 97 here: www.scp.nl/publicaties/publicaties/2015/12/16/werelden-van-verschil The source is in Dutch. But if you go to page 97 of this PDF you'll find a graph with the full results of this poll, which is partly shown in my video.
You have someone speaking Arab when you are talking about what Turkish people was saying. It's important to mark a difference between Turkish people and Arabs. It is not the same
@@adamelghalmi9771 me too and I can name lot more. Although depends on the region a lot of the behaviors are different.. the way they treat religion it has differences too and because here the topic is being Muslim that it's why I wanted to make the differenciation.
These data are overly simplistic and lack the context and nuances needed for a deep understanding. It's problematic to reduce complex religious beliefs to mere percentages. Are these the empirical data you're using for your hitpiece about the "forbidden topic"?
@@RednasXYZABC123 Corrections should only be made by qualified people with empirical data. That was my point of criticism. Thank you for confirming my point with your attempt to criticise me.
@@Charles44izy so you don't know better and are leaving it up to others who you deem more qualified to correct. wow such bravery. whell done keyboard warrior. i did not confirm your point but you already know that. thank you for confirming you don't know better. i'll stop waisting my time with you. i hope you grow and learn into a fine lad. may christ be with you
@@Weda01 You're overlooking the fact that religious adherence isn't uniform; it varies with education, cultural background, and personal belief systems. For instance, in countries where religious law coexists with state law, the interpretation of 'importance' could differ vastly from places where secularism dominates. By not acknowledging these layers, you're reducing complex human beliefs to mere data points, which is not only oversimplistic but potentially misleading. Understanding religion requires looking beyond numbers to see the rich tapestry of individual and societal influences at play.
the immigration issue is fairly simple. All the people you bring in who contribute and have the same values are welcomed easily, and those who don't align well you bring in slowly so they can adapt and fit in.
You put Turks and Moroccans side by side, but the survey results and reactions seem very different from each other. While the crime rate of Turks was 3 times that of the Dutch in 2005, this rate decreased to 2.64 times in 2022. Also, although the Antilles, or Christians, are the group with the highest crime rate, you never talked about this. Even though Turks started from a poor background, they are a community that has not forgotten that they went there to earn money. The habit of classifying Turks with other Muslims just because they are Muslims is too easy and prevents us from understanding their sociology.
Antilleans are a significantly smaller group, and they are from territories that were formerly colonized by the Netherlands. That, amongst other things, changes the debate about their crime rates. It's worth talking about, but it's just not the main subject of this video. I emphasized Turkish migrants because they constitute a significant group, and together with Moroccans they account for the largest growth of Islam in the Netherlands, which is the main subject of this video.
@@HindsightYT Sorry, but your answer didn't go further than repeating itself. I also objected to this concept. If the Antilles are a small group, then the crime rate is very, very high among that group, and if the Turks are a large group, then by that logic, the crime rate among them should be very low. I was trying to give you a key to things that are not very appropriate to put together.
The way I look at it is if you migrate to another country, you assimilate to the culture, not the other way around. I don't invite you into my home so you can berate me or my family for having too much freedom. They CHOSE to move to the netherlands, they weren't FORCED to move.
2:20 is certainly not true. Being Catholic was banned in public spaces. 70% of the people (that actually were Catholic) had to come in houses or shelters for holding services.
I am a Dutch citizen currently migrating to Madrid, Spain. Madrid also has a lot of imigration. Primarily from Latin America. The only difference is that the Latin Americans are openly grateful to be allowed to live and work in Madrid, and are respectful to Spain's culture. Now, of course, there are some muslims that are like that as well in Western Europe, so I am not speaking for all, obviously. However, a significant percentage of muslims do believe their culture is superior over ours and that the Dutch should change their way of life. A large percentage is unwilling to emancipate into Western culture. This is, what I believe, to be at the heart of the problem.
The other problem is these people are largely useless in the work environment. They're good as cheap labor but lack the labor productivity to actually help the economy. There's this myth that immigrants magically become more productive when they move from country to country this isn't how this works. Unless the countries they come from have an equally developed society.(not the case with the Islamic world).
Latin American people have the same religion, language and many aspects of the culture, they are just Spanish too... but weirdly the wokes (the gouvernement) always prefer the people who don't eat pork lol
Keep the distictive in mind that Muslims aren't Islam, it is true that Islam is incompatible with Dutch culture. So either Muslims adapt to Dutch culture (inburgering) where I would say proficiency of Dutch language is mamdatory, or the Netherlands will turn into an Islamic caliphate in due time.
There was no shortage of low-skilled workers. Companies never wanted to give fair compensation for labour, so they made that shortage. Low skilled labour market in Netherlands is like this: We will disrespect, you every step of the way, intentionally and not, will not provide any way of countering management abuse and if you complain we'll make it your fault, even mentioning unfair/discriminatory treatment will lead you in trouble. Netherlands has still same low skill recruitment strategy as it was, just now it's mostly from Europe. They hire "temporary" workers but expect you to work for many years but perfectly indefinitely and only for minimum wage even though jobs are often unreasonably complicated, stressful and you aren't treated as a real person.
Most nordic countries have this. But people are quite naive about how their countries have been using immigrant labor since the 60s, they all believe that the welfare state is applicable to all the people living in the country at any given moment but it's not true at all. They believe it intentionally, despite what they see around them - darker skinned people doing all the service jobs for very little money and no full-time employment, only flex jobs.
flex jobs meaning 8 hours a week in this job, another 12 in a second job, always kept running in between shitty jobs, pushed to the maximum of your energy in all of them, afraid you will be replaced by a younger and more energetic immigrant.
The problem with immigrants is that they are frozen in time. Those who immigrated from Turkey are trying to live in the Netherlands with the culture of Turkey in the 50s and 60s.Unlike there, Istanbul is probably more secular than the immigrant communities!
A lot of people are frozen in time, or even in fantasy. Geert Wilders is a prime example. He is frozen in the Netherlands the way it was basically when he was born. He's not telling people our country was fairly poor at the time, that women had little rights (well actually he doesn't really care about that), that men had to work really hard, that we were less healthy etcetera. His stories are too good to be true, and we all know what happens when things seem to good to be true.
"The Sword of Truth", a book series which began in 1994, depicted unbelievably well the results of being overly tolerant. How terrifying it is to see the events of the book unfold in real life 30 years later.
The Sword of Truth is pretty much just the work of Ayn Rand translated to a high fantasy setting. Whatever you think of its subject material, Goodkind's work needs to stay in the past for both his creepy obsession with (oopsie, almost) rape and his godawful writing style. And yes, I actually bought and read all of his Sword of Truth and spin-off stuff as a teen and was quite disgusted when I later revisited those books.
@@Artekus You see in normal conversation I would have no idea so many harbour such views, but now that I know I understand better, how scared I should be.
It looks like Geert Wilders masterminded his political success by criticizing Islam in a way that gained support from the common Dutch public, manipulating their perceptions of Islam. Now that he is in power, he has changed or softened his views and is not committed to the positions he held as a politician before. Clearly, he played with the sentiments of the Dutch public. People should think carefully before blindly trusting what politicians tell them.
The history of mass immigration is filled with incidents like this. When millions of Italians came over to the USA, there were huge problems of segregation, mafia, religion, but in 2-3 generations they became more American than apple pie. Similarly Irish migration to Liverpool and Glasgow resulted in the return of the orange order in those places and mass riots but now they have become a part of Glasgow and Liverpool, I mean we got the Beatles cause of them.
Depends. The part of the culture that thinks of woman as lesser people and gays as bad should not be preserved. Art, food, music and such can stay of course.
Culture certainly should be preserved and honoured on a personal level, and some of that will inevitably trickle into the culture on a national level and so enrich it. On the other hand, we need to be wary of what parts of culture we emphasise or condone within the framework of national identity and laws. Some things should be celebrated, some don't quite fit and are best limited to a symbolic nod, and others are fundamentally incompatible with the national culture and laws and need to be left behind entirely. Tradition is a beautiful thing, but it should never be allowed as justification for what is otherwise deemed reprehensible. This also goes for the Dutch culture of treating immigrants as expendable worker bees with inferior culture. Just because it once fit with the prevailing political and cultural narrative, doesn't mean it still has a place today.
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Islam is taking over Europe without a shot being fired... Islamic leaders are rejoicing
*These are the results of being a person who ignores reality.*
the rawagede massacre and the invading of middle east by usa/ally{dutch} coalition army seems to be forgotten thats rich, not to mention supporting israel palestinian genocide by the dutch gov. the dutch must be an angel /s with ..oh soo TOLERAnt they are... 😂😂😂
@@fishingenthusiast0 putting aside the invading of the middle east drama, because it's a bad faith argument on something that wouldn't ever have happened if said middle east would just stop killing eachother.
After a quick read-up, it would seem that it was Dutch people, who went after the truth, who uncovered the lies of the government, and ultimately got even a sliver of justice for the victims. Any massacre is, inherently of course, an unforgivable act.
What are the chances of walking up to a Dutch person, showing them what happened, and said Dutch person not condemning the atrocities of the Royal Netherlands East Indies Army that day?
The actions of a small group of people, generations ago, can not, should not, and will not define an entire culture and ethnicity. Even so, our current government has apologized in person about the events that occured.
So yes, I'd say it is forgotten. But it also happened nearly a century ago. There are not many people alive now, who were alive at the time of this event.
It's an unforgivable act, but the people who performed said act are gone. There is no one to persecute. We can only move on in our own generation and ensure something similar doesn't happen again. Ever.
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I wonder how tolerant Islamic countries are towards Christians, how freely one can practice Christianity in Islamic countries?
Not at all. Their hatred is unparalleled
You very much can, I'm in Jordan, where 90% are Muslims and you can do whatever you want no one cares, unless you obviously start spreading hate towards others is where the line is drawn
meh, don't come yapping it. You can see who's tolerated and who's not by going to Jerusalem
This week, Muslim banned Christmas celebration in Bogor, Indonesia.
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They don't have any representation in media, business or parliament. They have to pay extra tax to survive in Muslim majority country & also get 3rd class citizen treatment
The Netherlands has the right to protect its culture and traditions.
@@TurtleChad1 every country does and is in this situation
What culture ? Wooden shoes or inbre*eding ?
@@Oceanbeachfish True.
Allahu akbar, islam will conquer europe and then the rest of the world
@@shazzshank6393 Actually, inbreeding is incredibly uncommon in the Netherlands. On the other hand, cousin marriages, which are a form of inbreeding, are culturally common in some countries, such as Pakistan, and are more prevalent in many Muslim-majority countries. It’s important to be accurate when discussing these things rather than relying on stereotypes
immigrants should adjust to the cultures and laws of the host country, not the other way around.
And a lot of the time that's exactly what happens. We're not talking about a single entity though, it's a country full of individuals, just like the rest of the world. Some act good, some do not. It's not rocket surgery.
Islamists don't care about the culture or laws of any country, they want to force Islamic laws and culture on everyone like they do in every country they control. Middle Eastern countries used to have diverse and unique cultures, now they have all been replaced by Islam.
Look up "Middle Eastern culture before and after Islam" images, it's sad. That's what will happen to Europe if people don't wake up.
That's where the grey line is present. Would you consider hijab ban as a cultural integration or a discrimination to religious practice?
@@affanhasby822 Firstly, Islamic countries force hijabs on women and girls, so it's fair for non-Islamic countries to ban them. Secondly, many people like teachers in non-Islamic countries have reported that girls were harassed and threatened with violence and even death by Muslim boys for not wearing hijab, so banning them is protecting those girls and women from Islamists.
@@affanhasby822 Then there is question, should some religions get free pass, would Sikhs not be allowed to wear Turbans, Jews Kippahs and Hindu Bindis? Should we designate some religions as particular problems and then discriminate against those selectively, most European institutions would find that as a form of harassment, requiring overhaul of the Dutch constitution.
Dude, even Turkish people in Türkiye don't pray nearly as much as Turkish people in the Netherlands.
what is that even supposed to mean lol
Yes, but you have to realize that their religion makes them pray and thank Allah at least three times per day for giving them such a peaceful existence in our lovely little 'doe nou maar normaal' kikkerlandje.
'Glad to be Dutch' is what their constant prayers translate into. And they're right, of course.
@@FrankHeuvelman 5 times a day*
Unless you are talking about Shia's, but I have never seen a Shia turk before.
@@FrankHeuvelman Nah bro, if you observe the trend, wherever islam is rejected, muslims grow more islamic, they tend to be stronger in adversity.
If you look at the places that don't care if muslims are there, you would find muslims straying away from islam more, unless ofcourse the government forces them like in Arab.
If you make all these people feel like second-class citizens, which is not abnormal for locals, you make them embrace their culture and religion even more because they also need an identity. For those of us who don't live abroad, away from our home country, it is hard to understand the difficulties. But yes, in Türkiye, you don't see a lot of people praying that much, especially among the younger generations.
The key question is always, how tolerant should we be of the intolerant?
@@Nordic_Sky I'm curious to know how tolorent would the migrants in the Netherlands be towards the intolerance of the people of the Netherlands in this regard ?
Thank you
Wrong question, bc intolerance is an ambivalent concept, and also bc many fundamentalists would say, we do tolerate your evil, depraved society, we tolerate you too much. No: the right question is, the interests and values of the majority versus the values of a minority, who should win? If your religious values are in opposition to the laws and customs of the country YOU CHOSE to make your home, you don't get to change the new place, you lose, and there should be no apology for that. That's democracy: majority rules. The incompatible people are free to leave and go back to the place where their values are mainstream.
It is a well known paradox in philosophy, that for an open and tolerant society to exist, one must be intollerant towards intolerance. Philosopher Karl Popper first theorized it and it is still a very important concept behind modern (post WWI) western european open societies.
fucking facts bro
Asking to be tolerant to people who will not be tolerant in return is silly.
wdym? I didn't understand who you mean by ppl who is not tolerant
@@Black-pk6rvislamists they want child marriage and the ☠️ of gays.
@@Black-pk6rvmuslims when majority are not tolerant
@@Black-pk6rv that seems to be the entire problem, this lack of understanding.
@@marcdc6809 dude I basically asked you to explain? I am not Dutch I don't know the topic enough, if you are not gonna say anything why bother?
It's the same in Sweden, we must have a right to protect our own borders, culture and values.
It‘s not the same in Sweden. You have no go zones in your cities and your girls are being raped and murdered left and right. You also have no Wilders of your own, because you have no balls to elect one. Dutch have turks and marrocans, these are the mildest muslims in the world. You have sirians, iraqis, afghans and pakistanis.
nobody is forcing you to not have kids, nor are the migrants attacking your culture or values, all of that is man made anyways. Remember what swedes did to the samerna? That is actual oppression
nobody is forcing you to not have klds, nor are the mlgrants attacking your culture or values, all of that is man made anyways. Remember what swedes did to the samerna? That is actual 0ppression
n0b0dy is forcing you to not have klds, nor are the mlgrants attacking your cvltvre or valuez, all of that is man made anyways. Remember what sw3des did to the samerna? That is actual 0ppr3ssion
TH-cam keeps censoring me but what I want to say is that m1grantz are not in anyway attacking your “culture” and “values” bro. It’s very hypocritical when not so long ago the Swedes did something I cannot say to the sami peoples.
Big mistake concentrating one single culture in a location. This is why Singapore often intervened to make sure neighbourhoods didn’t become associated with a certain ethnic group
Singapore has a higher proportionality of muslims than all of Europe yet they are doing fine, whats the difference?
The issue usually sorts itself out in a few centuries.
We still have China towns in the US. But our asian communities spread out over time to chase economic opportunities.
Now they only return to China towns, or Korea towns to buy food from the home country.
@@Ronnie_Animate No wonder race relations in the US are the way there are. You just described the ghetto perfectly. Already with black Americans there is tension.
And this is despite the geographical size of the US. I guess i forgot to mention that Singapore is one of the most densely populated countries in the world with almost 8000 people per square km, which necessitates their proactive approach to race relations.
Malaysia, Singapore's neighbouring country, let the problem grow so bad that there are schools for each of the country's main ethnic groups, one of the reasons why racism is so deep seated in Malaysia, made even worse by their bumiputera policy, which legally enshrines greater preferential rights for the ethnic majority Malays over the other ethnicities.
One culture in a location is the historical and natural norm for culture. Singapore "intervening" to prevent people of a single culture from living together is approaching Soviet Union tiers of totalitarianism.
In fact the Soviet Union under Lenin used the same strategy to quell ethnic and national revolts against the regime.
Multiculturalism takes away the ability for people to rise up against a regime on a collective basis.
@@user-qr6eb4jg9n here we go again: Singapore is supposedly a 'totalitarian' country and a police state. It has gotten so bad that when I tell this to Singaporeans they burst out laughing and tell me that i might have mistaken it for North Korea!
On a more serious note, you may want to open a history book and look what happened in both Singapore and Malaysia in the late 60's. Both countries had ethnic race riots that almost turned into anarchy. Is this what you call 'rising up' against the regime?
Singapore went from being a third world country to a first world country. The way you arrogant white Europeans are going, you may one day wake up to find yourselves a third world country.
Discarding your own culture and identity in favor of multiculturalism, thinking that the world is all sunshine and rainbows and that others would share your views of tolerance is pick naivety.
Progressive socialdemocrats are naive.
Been there, done that, how right you are.
Exactly. It would be nice to be all tolerant and diverse. Nothing especially bad with that, but it seems never to work in both directions.
Problem is the Dutch are so well indoctrinated they can't see the difference between the moon shining on a dark night or havinng their head stuck up the azz of someone that opens his or her mouth. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They don't understand how bad and terrible that is*lam is
"The rules of the Koran are more important than the laws of country"
How are Christians voting for that??????
11:10
lmao, ikr
they were either asked about the bible instead of the Quran or they really are stupid enough to believe that because some people have different beliefs they should be allowed to ignore the law of the country
Perhaps they were asking about the Quran equivalent for Christians, the Bible.
everyday im more glad that im american, we MAJORITY voted out the democrats that want this country destroyed
I would assume when the question was posed to Christians, the pollsters used "Bible" instead of "Koran".
As a moroccan I can say that this is a shame on everyone who does crimes in other countries , u had the chance to have a better life quality, but u choose to be stupid and pay the country by being against everything in that country , and choosing loyalty to the relegion , that gived u nothing in ur country, don't be dogmatic, open ur brains...
bc this is leading to a chaos that nobody wants ,but everybody will fight ...
Bro do you know who westerners are and how hypocritic they're?
What Are DUTCH VALUES?? PROSTITUTION?
What are you even talking about?
@@u.2b215 your country is gone dutch man 😂 cheers from safe Poland
@@shazzshank6393 Crime and safety in Poland on the whole is quite similar to the Netherlands. It's still much poorer though so few migrants want to live their even if you opened the borders. Birth rates are plummeting too so it's not looking to good for Poland in the long run.
What does the religion have to do with the crime? The religion is free from their transgressions and is even against what their hands have done
The majority of my co-workers are all foreigners, who I initially thought were mostly transfer students who were working a part time job. Then I found out most of them had been in the Netherlands for near of a decade! And none of them bothered to learn a lick of Dutch, only broken English with thick accents so the majority of your time is wasted on trying to understand what the other is saying than getting anything done at a pace. Who the hell do you think you are!? Imagine if I migrated to France and just expected the french to constantly having to use english. Migration has gotten so bad, I honestly cannot think when the last time was I had a full conversation on a daily basis in my own language. Unbelievable!
You shouldn't complain about the people, you should complain to your boss. Who the f* hires people who don't speak the language they need to communicate to do their job? 😂 I'm Dutch and I'm a manager. I don't mind at all if people don't speak Dutch, as long as their English is at least near fluent.
dont complain about them speaking english if you refuse to speak dutch to them.
I have several colleques who are in the netherlands for a year or two, and still every other dutch person refuses to speak dutch with them, even if they ask.
How are they supposed to learn dutch if you keep switching to english?
@@daanwolters3751 Stop being so disingenuous. Gross behaviour...
It's not up to us to teach them anything, much less accept them.
@@4nz-nl You should mind.
i didnt see dutch engineers living in Egypt learning a lick of arabic as well.
I am an expat, living and working here for some years, why the hell would i learn dutch ?
" Famously tolerant ". That's the root of the problem.
womp womp
Always has been. We have mistaken it for the key to societal success, while plenty of societies out there that are much more homogenuous have also been succesful.
@@Elucidator- The Netherlands have never been homogeneous to begin with though. Not even before the rise of non-whites immigration. It was always Protestants vs Catholics, Frisians vs Hollanders, East vs West, Royalists vs Republicans. The Netherlands has only been united for 200 years give or take unlike a country like Japan that is united since the 1600s and has fought bloody wars for hundreds of years to make it homogenous aka commit genocide.
@@smashman8828 Yes but you didnt take shit either, You didnt bow to Spain for example, now you are in fact afraid, you are bowing before people who wont extend tolerance back.
Being tolerant to the intolerant causes the tolerant to become intolerant, no?
I visit the Netherlands 6-8 times a year and absolutely love it there but the only times I've had problems were with Moroccans
No shit sherlock.
"no bro im not racist i swear"
also bro:
@@bbernyy64how is it racist?
@@bbernyy64 did you not see the crime rate stats at the beginning
Agreed. All over Europe.
unfortunately, everything wilders says in this video is 100% spot on.
Unfortunately, your statement is very wrong.
It's not. He is refering to culture, fanatism/narrowmindness, religion and faith as one thing. Clearly, there is islamic faith in other countries and works without issues. When you collapse all into one "islam is blah blah and blah" then you are a adding yourself as candidate for the award populist of the year.
@@chat-1978 And not only that. You can clearly see, now the PVV and Geert Wilders have rose to power, they are only focusing on immigration and ignoring all the other problems we have, which get worse as a result.
@@chat-1978 what islamic country works without issues? they literally start warring each other even within the same religion.
Live in Amsterdam for 3 years. Love the Dutch. Fight for your identity and culture
Tolerance should only be shown to those who are tolerant back.
which in the case in the netherlands the dutch are more rasict towards islamic religions then other religions and a big contributer of that is wilders
- Not equal are the good and the bad response. You shall resort to the one which is better. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend. - Fussilah:34, Quran Almighty
Don't believe everything you have heard in the media.
@@HeavyMedal 41;34 Good and evil cannot be equal. Respond ˹to evil˺ with what is best, then the one you are in a feud with will be like a close friend.
They will never become friends with others as long as they follow that teaching ! Why ? Because that teaching is full with hatred against the unbeliever or believer in a different religion. "Respond to evil", means hate those that are not like you. That religion is against tolerance !
The whole goal of that teaching is Salam, which means the peace that is there when the whole world lives according to Islamic rules. So that religion its goal is to convert the whole world to Islam.
There is no peace possible with people that life according to that strategy as their as intolerant as is possible of people that choose to life by other beliefs.
Islam does not accept the way we western people look at life. The religious teaching is basically illegal ,as its against "the free choice of religion". And that is why there will always be trouble between Islamic people and people that believe in other ways of life ! Islam simply is not tolerant towards others, but rather teaches its followers to replace those that life by different rules of living.
You never wil be real friend with someone that you force your religion on as then your dominating that "friend", and then no one wants to be your friend, unless they do not know what your teaching is about.
Indonesia is majority muslims too (they have lower crimerates than dutch people) it's not the religion it's the people
@@HeavyMedal we shouldn't believe anything written in that stupid book called quran, either
I am a non European but non Muslim immigrant in Belgium... There are 70% Muslims in the integration class so majority.. and one of them legit had the audacity to come and tell me that I should cover my hair everyday like I did on one cold windy day in Belgium with my shawl... That is why I am on my process now to return to my country coz that's way less Islamic and no one tells me there to cover my hair... Poorer I may be but my hair gonna be shiny and waving in the wind like a flag of my freedom atop my head
first of all, it is NOT "islamic" for people to tell you that. infact it is forbidden to tell someone to wear a hijab if they do not want to, it should only be worn out of willingness.
secondly, you call it a flag of freedom, I see it as a tag of enslavement. I mean in Islam, no one tells you what your hair should look like, what kind of curls are ugly and which are beautifyul, what type of colours are "in" and which are outdated. in islam, you just wear something to cover the beauty of your hair because Allah asked you to. and in a sence, it is like cheating on your husband with every man who sees it. it is something that should be between you and your husband. you ofcourse probably disagree, but let me give you something you can compare it to.
it is like having a husband or boyfriend, and seeing him flex his muscles or wear something that shows off his muscles in an area with a lot of girls. or if this person goes up to a girl and starts flirting with her. that is pretty much the same way you would be disrespecting your husband if you were a muslima, aswell as disrespecting Allah for giving you that beautyfull hair.
also, you are literally leaving a country because someone told you to cover your hair, when you get indirectly blasted with messages that say "you should wear this product".
you women are not free, the market is literally conning you into thinking you are free. you have only chosen a different master. once you accapt that that is the truth, you will understand why muslims are muslims, and nothing else.
Weird story, especially to leave a country since one person told you something. Also, if you see mainly Muslims, in which region of Belgium were you? And where are you from?
@@4nz-nl Not weird at all, it's happening all over Europe. Muslim immigrants force their own ideology and way of life on everyone else in the country and the left wing Europeans go along with it because they are utter idiots. When even the Belgian police absolutely refuses to enter certain neighborhoods within the capital of Brussels than you know something is very, very, wrong. And it's not just Belgium, the same sentence would be correct for the French police and certain Parisian neighborhoods and there are many other similar examples across Europe(and not just with capital cities either).
Man,some of the stories I read on the internet,sound so fvcking fake...Like i'm a non-hijabi Muslim girl born & raised in a very conservative Muslim country (Bangladesh🇧🇩) And yet i've never had anybody come up & tell me that i apparently must cover my head (despite 50-60% of my friends being hijabi) So,it sounds super fvcking unrealistic that some migrant muslim kid in Belgium told a non-muslim to wear hijab. And not only that,but also the fact you're literally leaving the country for that. Cuz,you apparently can't dress freely in BELGIUM?
Whatever,i strongly feel you're making up stories to receive likes & promoting unnecessary harmful prejudice
I checked your profile info. You're an indian hindu😂lol. And you're saying india has better women's rights than Belgium?? 😂😂 You're more deluLu than i thought 🤣
Oh, here's where it's a truly forbidden topic: North America. Here's the thing: im an immigrant, came in with my parents at age 10. But, when you decide to immigrate, you BETTER BE OKAY with the ways of the new place. No, you don't try to change the country to better suit you! The problem is that Islam believes they are entitled to change the world, that they have that mission.
Islam doesn't make you entitled to change the culture of others
The problem is not Islam or the immigrants but rather the ones who refuse to adapt
Every religion wants to spread and impose its own view. I don't understand why you said that
@Warcriminal-19983 that's why societies should be secular, and all religions should be as politically important as sports or hobbies.
@@raphaellavictoria01 most definitely
You said it right. Muslims moved away from the countries that they and they religion and ideology made shit, and then they want to make the country they moved into, the same exact shit as their own country.
Geert Wilders is totally RIGHT. As a person who lived in an Islamic country over 20 years, acknowledge that.
Geert Wilders is living proof of what he is saying. He would not live long if he would cycle to work, like Rutte did.
He created that situation himself, intentionally.
@@rientsdijkstra4266 Intentionally or not doesn't matter. It just shows that the people/culture/religion he criticises demands special rights and doesn't want to abide by the laws of the host country and want to instead physically harm somebody who is lawfully vocal about these cultures and people. You are just proving his point.
Rutte ja, het braafste jongetje van de klas. 🙉🙈🙊
@@rientsdijkstra4266 actually the low impulse control third world animals that european leftists have invited in created the situation
@rientsdijkstra4266 No he did not! Elements that do not respect core democratic values are doing the killing an silencing. He is just courageous to voice his critique anyway.
Wilders is right about Islamism. But many people from Muslim countries such as Iran, Syria or Turkey are not Muslims, they are Kurds, Yazidis, humanists or Christians and are fleeing Islam. Sending them home is simply wrong. Sending Islamists or gray wolves home is good, but not the people fleeing from them. He was also very confused about Russia - the same goes for the EU. His opinion against Islamism is important, but he needs to learn to differentiate.
What is islamism?
dude what? Only thing you are right about humanist activist part, and it is not much right tho. You might talk about LGBT and pro democracy activists but Kurds and Armenians? Nah I live in Turkey and basically I had both Armenian and Kurd friends. About Kurd people they are basically the same with Turkish people and they are Muslim(mostly). I don't understand how you can say they are not? Some of them even more religious. About Armenians there are some Muslim and Christian Armenians who live in Turkey, there might be some difficulties about society for them which I didn't witness (I say that because I had Armenian friends). And most of Armenians I see in my city are living better than an average Turkish person. Btw I do know there are Kurd people who seek asylum in European countries even in Japan, and they cause more unrest, there was an post from a Japanese person who talks about these Kurds and he was saying one of them even said "If you don't want us here, you go somewhere else." which is completely nonsense. About these people who seek asylum I can say with confidence they are fooling you, Europe's living standarts better. So thats why they do that. But about immigrants in your country I am not one of them so that's not my concern, I hope you find a "humanist" solution for that.
@@RadwanAden Political Islam, for example: Muslim Brotherhood, IS and so on.
@@Black-pk6rv I know many Kurds and Iranians in Germany. All of them are Humanist an Feminist and love Israel. GAMAAN Institute made a survey and found out, that the majority of Iranians are secular and don’t believe in God. I think it’s just very wrong to send those people to a place where they get suppressed for what they are. But yes of course there are many people here who believe in political Islam or Turan and similar weird stuff, and that is a problem. I think you should only become citizenship when you accept the state of Israel.
@@Black-pk6rv and yes his opinion towards Russia was naive. With Crimea and Georgia you could already see, what Putin is.
This video is leaving something out. Pim Fortuyn was murdered by an environmentalist named Volkert van der Graaf. This person is form Dutch origin.
Tuurlijk gaat hij dat niet vermelden
broeder ik ben moslim en dit soort videos en weet ik veel wat is enkel en alleen maar om het land te polariseren. We zien hoe het gaat alles wordt steeds duurder, dit kunnen we nu niet hebben.
@@weirdstrafer9263 Uiteindelijk moet de schuldige worden aangewezen voor de inflatie: immigranten zijn een makkelijke keuze. Maak je borst maar nat..
en wat was zijn reden ook weer om Pim te vermoorden huh?
Ja dat vond ik ook vreemd, maar ik denk dat dat meer is in relatie tot het idee dat men voelde dat vrijheid van meningsuiting begon te verdwijnen. Of het nou ging om Islam of andere dingen, maar het voegt toe aan de spanning van toen.
Europe is going down if it does not urgently address the impact of immigration from Islamic countries. Despite clear challenges associated with integration and security, left and green parties continue to advocate for open-door policies. Meanwhile, much of the population remains either unaware or unwilling to confront the realities of these policies and their long-term implications. Without decisive action, Europe’s future stability and cultural cohesion will be in jeopardy.
If you constantly hear your religion is wrong, maybe just move from Europe to country where they will accept it? Problem solved.
Try finding a fundamentalist islamic nation with a strong economic outlook for lower to middle class workers. Most of the islamic nations that have any kind of wealth to them have it due to oil exports. Come to think of it, they'd best pray that the electrical transition doesn't happen too quickly, once their primary export is no longer in demand, the mideast is going to have some bad times...
@aeternusdoleo4531 Right, they just try to make something like that with Europe.
Guess what? most muslim countries, no offense, aren't as developed or safe as european countries like France and Poland.
@@EdwardNortonSSS tell me three unsafe Muslim countries. The only rule is that you can't talk about a country that was invaded/attacked by the US/Europe.
@@Tokyo1889 Nice try. Literally every Muslim Country is one that was invaded by Muslims to begin with so your argument doesn't work. Unless you want to argue that the siege of Vienna was a "mostly peaceful protest".
Living in Europe since 13 years, came here in my 20s and I must say that this has been the best decision I've made. I love the freedom and individualism here and I am well integrated and fully open to assimilate my next generations and raise them as locals. At the end of the day, if I were happy with the culture and politics back where I came from, I would have stayed.
shhh hush hush if u know nth about europe colonial past
@Rxcvv-rn8gw He was talking about present, not past.
which country are you in now?
Those ppl will never view you as a "local" at best they can accept you living there if you keep on distancing yourself from your culture and strip away every ounce of dignity you've got
@Rxcvv-rn8gw perhaps he knows about the slavery and piracy anti christian past of north-africa, which officialy ended in 1816 thanks to a naval assault on the city of alger
Geert Wilders view of the dangers of Islam is the logical conclusion for a rational person to come to after learning a bit of history about countries where Muslims are the majority, more people would understand his view if they put some time in to learning about it.
more people need to be honest about it before its too late
forget "Muslim countries" most of which are ruled by people with political ambitions and real will to implement Islam rulings, and go learn about Islam, Islam calls for equity love and peace, it is a beautiful religion
Anyone who's ever studied islamic history knows that it has only really been since the creation of the state of Israel that the rule changed that a Jew or Christian is far safer in Muslim lands than a Muslim or Jew is in Christian lands.
Hell, in the 1840's the Ottoman Empire had to make public statements and laws to stop Christian communities from committing blood libel against their Jewish neighbours
@@mohammadbayazid5064your taqiyya doesnt Work anymore Ahmed
@@mohammadbayazid5064 It is not a religion of peace, the whole world has seen how Islam has been weaponized to kill the non-believer.
@@mohammadbayazid5064 LOL!
I life in the netherlands, and I like to keep it like that. It's not just islam who's pushing their believe to us,it's a lot of things, like ZWARTE piet. It's also the size of our little piece of the world that's just full. In my opinion, Wilders is in most cases pretty discriminative, but in many he's right. I think a human is a human, no matter what, but respect the rules, the culture and believe the country you live in.
The difficulty in the Netherlands is the mentioned tolerancy that is fundamental for the Dutch culture. The question is how can you protect your culture from others if part of that culture is the tolerance and invitation of other cultures? It's a difficult balance but one thing is clear: Even though the Netherlands should be a tolerant country, there should be line between allowing Islamic people to live there and allowing Islamic people to change the culture.
I always like a phrase that says "you should not use democracy to destroy democracy", sometimes you must be intolerant towards the intolerants
All relgions are created.by .mafia families.
Tolerance isn't part of our culture. It never was, and amongst the people it still isn't the case. Maybe of the two Holland provinces, but not the entire country. The problem is we keep telling ourselves it is the case and there's a severe imbalance when it comes to geographical background within the country and who are present in the tweede kamer.
Our politics have nothing to do with what people speak out between four walls and what their opinions truly are. If you're too open to speak your mind, you risk losing your job or whatever. How often do you hear about policies being introduced to our country where people never voted for desipte their party is actually ruling?
It's time to quit lying to ourselves. We want our country back. I welcome every human in the globe to come to our country, make yourself home, it's open to everyone, but only when you adopt one of our cultures, respect it. You can show off your own,throw parties, teach us, but don't expect to accommodate us. If it's a possible danger? Then it's time to abandon parts of your identity or move back. It's easy.
@@BeesKneesBenjamin Adopt to your culture ? You can't even speak dutch with slight foreign accent as people will attack you for being a foreinger, you are clearly deluded.
@shazzshank6393 I will be nice and give you the attention you crave as no one else does I am just curious how you know that about The Netherlands when you are from Poland as you spammed over the comment section
I wished we Dutch people realized this type of issues more faster.
I'm sad, not because i want to be racist. Far from it. I've become racist towards them due to the VERY WELL proved issues that constantly plague our society.
I am frustrated on how things are handled. If anything, concerned for my country as my culture as well.
"I'm sad, I don't want to be racist". Come on dude, quit the nonsense. If you're racist, you are because you want to, and because there is no one close enough to you that is affected by it.
I'm Dutch too, born and bred. My two best friends are Dutchmen of Moroccan descent. One is a business owner, the other one has a wonderful job and a University degree and they're still being held back and treated as second class citizens in the country they were born in. This means: They probably would have done even better, paid more tax, invested more in OUR country, had we actually been tolerant and not racist. We cannot hold them responsible for people who are not even their family.
Alongside that, it's very well proven that the issues we have in our society have f* all to do with the type of roots people have, and everything with social status. We could say that things will even out as our current cabinet is taking a large chunk of the funds out of our public school system. More people will be poor, we will have more criminals, and the rich (including those two Moroccan guys and essentially, you could say me, too) will get richer.
For the sake of our country, grow a pair and read yourself into some sense.
It’s not racist to not like poor behaviour! It’s common sense.
@@theinngu5560 Yup, it's not racist to not like poor behaviour. It is racist to allow poor behaviour from some people while punish it from others, and that's exactly what's happening here in NL.
@4nz-nl Yep, violent criminals get less charges than "hate crimes" in group chats. That's what's happening
@@4nz-nl Netherlands poverty rate is the lowest in its history. Your attempt to blame the Dutch for not being tolerant enough for Moroccan gang crimes is disgusting
How tolerant can I be of those who would take away all of my freedom, cmon.
We both know that won't happen. Why do you lie to yourself about such a risk?
@@zipzap8937 Islam does exactly that.
Geert Wilders is a advocate for the Dutch language, culture, borders, safety and well being of Citizens of the Netherlands. He is a hero and great leader. God bless him👏🙏👏🙏👏🙏
als oud antifa lid ben ik het met jou en geertje eens, vol is vol en genoeg is genoeg.. maar eerlijk hoezo geweldige leider? wat heeft ie tot nu toe gedaan behalve op de zorg en onderwijs bezuinigen?
@@kor-cv9uzwaar heb je het over? Antifa heeft geen leden? En waarom kies je nu wel voor fascisme?
And for Israelian imperialist.
It's the same thing in Canada, we get called racist when saying we need to focus on our own citizens first and stop giving out visas/taking on more foreign students.
Tired of employers scamming the govt for money to hire said foreign workers n students. I can't find work, the country full go elsewhere
Student visas are being abused as a back door to immigration. UK recently kicked out a Pal. girl studying law in London, an obvious scam. what good are British law degree in Pal, and they do not offer degrees in Sharia law in UK. Especially for a woman who is not even allow much right to be in court.
The foreign students are propping up the finances of your universities
@@maximillianafrancine1451 We do not need the popping up, Then it cost us much more later when they apply to stay forever and to get their families here.
Canada has some of the strictest rules on work visas in the western world, possibly the strictest. The reason the intake of foreign workers is so high, is because there is a high demand for them in the job market (because there is a high demand for their services from people already living in Canada).
The connection between immigrants and housing prices is that the housing market wasn't prepared for the influx and the government (and employers, who do not take this into account) did not take measures to deal with this foreseeable consequence. You can blame the government for that, but it's hard to blame immigrants for coming over when the country (as represented by the government and by employers) asks them to...
@@maximillianafrancine1451 stop lying
11:13 - how does any Christian agree with the statement 'The rules of the Koran are more important than the rules of the country'?
For Christians it was the Bible but the youtuber didn't want to overcomplicate the infographic. deadmau5, ey?
The question was framed differently for Christians. Here's the original question from the study:
“The rules of the Bible [the Koran] are more important to me than the laws of [survey country].”
Here's the full study if you're interested:
wzb.eu/system/files/docs/sv/iuk/koopmans_englisch_ed.pdf
Great content, the same is happening in France, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Hungary, Luxembourg, Poland, Sweeden and the list is ever-growing....
Dude, it's not happening in Poland. Islam problem in Poland do not exists (yet)
the EU is the problem!
@@fromsuncity1 I would say that the countries of the EU have a policy problem. We could also say that the UK is no longer in the EU and they have the same issue, Switzerland never was in the EU and this situation also affects them...
I would say that the "open arms" policy is the issue here.
@@rubenparada866yes,too many muslims in EU.They colonies Europe and I seen some videos where they was talking about the Europe califate
@@fromsuncity1 No, it's not
the reason why we "can't" talk about this is because 1 side of the debate refuses to acknowledge ANY of the points made by the other, and simply slanders and attacks the person making those points, instead of the points themselves.
combine that with a one sided political majority, and a media catering exclusively to that side's agenda, and you get a society where you get ostracized for even asking a question that they think will be bad for the agenda.
Appreciate the Video Hindsight! Well in Germany we got multiple schools with up to 90% migration background.
Now we migrate the german Kids backwards…
Wow, stop usiang and saying migration background! Migrants can be from Eastern Europe, people that share same culture and traditions!!! It is the muslims that are problem, not ALL migrants!
"Migrationshintergrund" heißt dass vor bis zu 3 Generationen einer deiner Vorfahren nicht Deutsch war. Kein anderes Land rechnet so weit zurück. Damit ist das halbe Ruhrgebiet polnisch etc.
The German definition of migration background goes back three generations of ancestors and is so broad that most of the country that never even knew a family member who spoke a foreign language is included in the term. This is what needs to change first so people can actually have a coherent debate and statistics.
The problem is not that too many have "Migrationshintergrund". Germany as a country in the middle of Europe has always been pretty mixed. The issue is that there's schools with too many kids who don't speak German or know the culture outside of their migrant community.
@@giod6266Muslims specifically because that religion is stuck in the past for most of the Muslim population, that’s why many Muslim countries have an increasing secular and atheist population against an oppressive religion.
So all of the “traditional” Muslims escape to the pagan west lol.
@@giod6266 i agree in holland i think the blacks are dutch coexist very wel, muskims on the other hand
@@giod6266 In Britain, migrants from Eastern Europe were not considered same background, crime was spiking and benefits taken, one must only put on the TV in 2015 and find dozens of examples. That's why Brexit happened.
Good luck to the Netherlands 🇳🇱
The history of mass immigration is filled with incidents like this. When millions of Italians came over to the USA, there were huge problems of segregation, mafia, religion, but in 2-3 generations they became more American than apple pie. Similarly Irish migration to Liverpool and Glasgow resulted in the return of the orange order in those places and mass riots but now they have become a part of Glasgow and Liverpool, despite huge issues in the past.
In San Francisco they kicked out the Chinese, and it made the city worse, huge loss of labor, same with Japanese during WW2.
It will take time, but new cultures are made by the intermixing of the old, can you say the US is worse for having Italians, or Liverpool worse for having Irish people. It was deeply unpopular at the time.
@@sadiqkhawaja7019 Good luck to the Netherlands 🇳🇱
@@sadiqkhawaja7019 lebanon took palestine refugees now the country failled that used to be middle eastern switzerland. iran and iraq was so much better in 70s now what happen with islamization ? pakistan was so much ahea of india in 70s . then they made it more islamic and look at it now. you want me to talk about afghanistan?
is there any day in middle east with a peaceful day? something is alreay going on . what happened to yezidi women in yemen iraq syria?
their culture their clothes their languages everything is history. israel on the other hand were treated worse whole history has given so much to the world but none of you guys want them alive or leave their homeland alone.
see whats the common problem here?
even that austrain painter would would be shy of what mohommad has committed and people do to this day listenin to it.
fastest growing lol. even coronavirus spread very fast as well until vaccine came. i wish the day when islam will just remain in history books in a dark corner
@@sadiqkhawaja7019 Italians and Irish were majority Non-Muslims!!
@@sadiqkhawaja7019 italians and irish were almost the same religion
*I don’t get it - why aren’t 🕉️Hindus, ☸️Buddhists, 🪯Sikhs or ✡️Jews also disliked in a similar manner despite also not being indigenous to the 🇳🇱Netherlands?*
because they don't bring the crime rate up? show disrespect commonly and try and change their own host country.
@@yourlocalsu-47 They don't belong there
well Jews have been living here since before the netherlands was even independent
Because they mostly keep to themselves and dont cause problems others, on top of immigrating into our society. There's an intergration facility for immigrants at my school and I had the chance to meet some of the 3rd years of the place, all muslims, barely any of them spoke a word of Dutch, when they've been in the Netherlands for a good while already. Meanwhile, a few of my neighbours are Indian, have moved here about 3 years ago as well, and they speak, not fluent, but very understandable Dutch. This difference is why a lot of people, including me, dislike muslims, because it feels like they want to undermine our own rules, traditions and culture and replace it with their own. It doesn't feel like they care in the least for the country they're in, but desperately want to cling to the culture they came from. If they want that culture so bad, they can go right back home if you ask me. Same goes for the illegal immigrants.
Because they are decent, friendly and hard working people.
If Western Country being "intolerant" with immigrant because culture, then when western come to eastern or middle east THEY should be *tolerant* to middle east and eastern culture. No Nude and shorts.
As a Russian living in the Netherlands, I agree that migrants should adapt to the host country’s culture, not the other way around. If I were Dutch, I would have voted for Wilders as well
in a few words: we're like canada but more populated and with better roads
I don't understand why you keep calling Wilders an extremist when he's been 100% correct all along. Yes, the Dutch were champions of the early Humanist movement in Europe and have developed into one of, if not the most, tolerant European culture. However Europeans simply didn't understand what Islam was as they never bothered to truly learn about it, just fight against it throughout history. Thus when the 20th century came and Europe's demographic problems begun, Islam creeped further and further inside Europe itself and the Europeans were still ignorant to just how much they were shooting themselves in the feet. Wilders is one of the first people who not only understood this but had the courage to speak out against it, in times where it was extremely unpopular to do so. It doesn't change the fact that he was 100% correct. What we want reality to be very often differs from what reality actually is. Even if we want to be extremely tolerant towards everyone, we need to understand that this can simply never happen. Islam, along with several other such groups, are not tolerant at all, in fact they are precisely everything Wilders have said for years and years. For tolerance to succeed it must be reciprocated. When it isn't problems arise, as Europe has seen for decades now but is only now finally beginning to open its eyes to.
“Extreme” while rejecting both Fascism and Communism gtfoh 😂
before I say anything else I have to clarify, are you, per chance, a US American?
Bedankt om deze onderwerpen minder taboe te maken !
I am Indonesian and I support Geert
Geert also has Indonesian roots
His mother was Indonesian@@KikkerFish
Aren't Indonesians muslims??
@@lpragmatique1900 yes 90 percent of them
Muslim majority yes but not Muslim country. Many Indonesian in Netherlands are Mollucans and they are mostly Christian. @@lpragmatique1900
Balanced and thoughtful, thanks for treating this very serious subject with the erudition it deserves.
(Evenwichtig en attent, bedankt dat u dit zeer serieuze onderwerp met de eruditie hebt behandeld die het verdient)
Tolerance eh. Play stupid games win stupid prizes
What do you mean the Dutch can't speak about this? We're speaking about it, right.
yes and we have in fact been speaking about this since Pim Fortuyn. Actually, an exceptional amount of media attention is given to these politicians, so to say that 'The Dutch aren't speaking about this' is complete nonsense. It's a variation of moral panic of "You can't say anything anymore nowadays'. Yes you can, but when you're stating certain facts, be willing to give them context, what is the actual origin of the problem, and what would be the solution? If your solution is to close borders because we have a migration problem, perhaps look at the real reasons of that problem, who are a lot more complex than to say Islamic culture is backwards.
The left wing wants to censor this topic because they win by cheating and being deceitful
@@jesuisameliepoulain the quality of potential immigrants on this planet is quite limited. Imagine if the Islamic world said they need 5 million westerners per year going to their countries. We wouldn't be sending our best. As the world develops foreign countries retain more of their talent. The supply of talented immigrants is increasingly being split between 3 and 4 continents. There's probably only a 1 milllion people in the world with actual talent, wanting to come west. This isn't the 1990s. Asia is a land of opportunity for those with talent.
Our politicians have borrowed away our futures on immigration. But they refuse to acknowledge how radical the shift has been. Immigration of any type is simply not sustainable. I don't mean we need less immigrants, we need basically zero.
In fact we're talking about it so often that I wish people for once would just shut the fuck up about it
@@dixonhill1108 source: dude trust me.
This type of video should have been posted 5-7 years earlier. I lived in Rotterdam for 5 years and eventually left (I’m Chinese):
1. Rotterdam south is dangerous to visit at night.
2. You can see “certain counties” flag hanging on the cars while driving, seems like they love their country so much and strongly want to show off their nationality to the locals.
3. despite their population, very few enter Dutch universities. I have 3 Dutch born Chinese classmates and 0 from “certain countries “, with a much larger population base.
4. I have 1 colleague from “certain country “ , I don’t want to generalize it, but he literally cannot finish his job and disappeared without any reason.
5. I’m not into social science, but apparently there are countless study from institutes and SCP published something with data as evidence. But it is politically incorrect to discuss in the public.
Quotes from :
> If we lose our human nature, we lose much, but if we lose our bestial nature, we lose everything.
Question: You're Chinese, how did you get here? For knowledge, paid by your parents? Or were you born here? In the latter case, you are not Chinese.
Then on your points:
1. Yes and no. Rotterdam south has the only more or less ghetto Rotterdam has. The city itself is not more dangerous than most other metropoles, I'd say it's less if anything (try London, NY, Moscow, or New Delhi to name a few)
2. Their nationality or their roots? And you are here pointing out the fact that you are Chinese, so what's the problem?
3. It's not about population. Especially Turks and Moroccans who are 3rd/4th generation are descendants of people who were brought here to do shit jobs. They were no knowledge migrants, and this is why i asked you how you got here: have you tried to climb a ladder yourself? Even through multiple generations, it's hard. I'm not in my current position because I'm a genius, I'm in my current position because my mom and dad already had an advantage and I didn't fuck it up.
4. If you don't want to say something, then don't.
5. It's never politically incorrect to discuss data, but it's incredibly hard to read data and get the right conclusions from it.
Most of these immigrants come from abusive environments since birth, and in the Islamic world, parental abuse is so common, that it's normalized in there, I myself am a victim of such kind of depraved deeds, I'm just lucky enough to resist the hate virus thanks to my powerful mind, unfortunately not everyone makes it.
"shortage of low skilled workers recruited from... thought they would return after some time", "The first generation worked long days for little money", housed in special residential areas"
They were brought over from another country to work jobs the locals wouldn't do for longer hours and less money, in segregated areas. What does that sound like?
The first recruited workers (Indonesians) were housed in barbwire fenced camps right after WW2. It wasn't until the 60's that people were housed in rundown/demolition homes.
Shortage of low skilled workers just translates into - 'We want more money through increasing our productivity without increasing labour costs'
it sounds like italians moving to the USA in the XIX century, like spaniards fleeing to france in 1936 to escape the civil war, like russian becoming taxi drivers in europ after the 1917 revolution, like central americas citizens and mexicans trying to get in the US, like the muslims that had to leave birmania etc... but muslims in europ call on the uma brotherhood and have a long term plan called the coran
there is no such thing as a job nobody works, there's only ever a problem with the kind of compensation offered for jobs. The import of foreign especially low skill workers just serves to undercut the ability for workers to advocate for better wages and living conditions. these usually lower class people were most affected by the influx of foreign workers and were dismissed as ignorant racists when they tried to express their issues for decades already.
I don’t know, what does that sound like? 👀
6:02 I wonder why he picked 2nd and 4th place countries but not the former colonies.
Because that doesn't fit the Islamophobic agenda.
he also conveniently ignored indonesian crimes rates being lower than the dutch in their own country.
I also wonder why he didn't mention that research from the Erasmus University showed that those with a Moroccan and Antillian background are more often suspected of crimes then can be explained by their actual criminal conduct. Only 13% of the overrepresentation in suspect registrations can be attributed to their criminal conduct.
@battlepassgaming I put them in there, right? Exactly for that reason. To provide some context.
Antilles are a much smaller group of people, that makes them less significant to the story. Suriname is a very similar story but the public debate is tempered because of its historical connection with the Netherlands, but that doesn't mean it doesn't receive attention. They're on par with Turkish crime rates and they're a similarly sized group in the Netherlands.
11:10 12% Christians agreed that the teachings of quran is more important than the law of the country? 😮
I wonder who are these 12% of Christians who believe that rules of Koran are more important than the country laws. These are the people that you should put on a watchlist for sure.
Hindsight already answered this question, for the Christians, its the bible, and for muslims its the koran.
@dinofzo the only thing bad about Christianity is its rampant proselytization attempts against Oriental religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Daoism, Confucianism, Shintoism, Tengrism, .etc). But Islam is completely rotten to the core - everything mentioned in the Quran is something straight out of a barbaric Dark Age.
If Dutch can't tolerate them... nobody in the West can. We should have learned from their experiences, but I wasn't even aware of what's happening there. Now I know. Thank you for this very informative episode!
Support Israel on it s expansion in the Levant. Receive more refugees and be tolerant. Barbara Spectre (a jeu) insisted that Europe can't live without multiculturalism.
Not gonna lie, the Netherlands is fucked.
As a Dutch born Chinese, I grew up in Rotterdam and my class was fully mixed with the Dutch ethnicity being a minority. The more problematic children were of Muslim religion.
Every little dutch village has had chinese restaurant since the 90s at least. We love chinese people, they are hardworking, polite and friendly.
Power of Islam 💪
@@1008apocalypse1008lmao, Geert Wilders will kick you out
Well, higher crime rates often depend on poverty. 30-40 years back in time, in my country a lot of people had prejudices and an negative im age of polish(Catholic) migrants. Just as for refugees, immigrants came for wealth as they suffer poverty. Poor people tend to have lower education standards and higher crime rates. Religion or country doesn't matter. When they had better education and no poverty they would not come. The Quran isn't more bloodthirsty than the Bible. Syrian refugees aren't more criminal that Polish. Muslim people aren't more aggressive than Christians. It's depending a lot more about the circumstances, not the religion.
The problem of Turkey-fication is two-fold:
- kebab becomes new national dish
- Istanbuli carpet salesmen will insistently be trying to sell you their carpets and act offended if you turn down their kind offer to drop by their store
its been long ago we stop bleaching you guys
12:16 all true, like, the youngest wife of the Muhammad was only 8 when he married her, the massacres carried out in his orders are well documented, and he did use terror tactics, as well as he did lose his mind around the 2 last chapters of Quran, wich is more of a book of him than a book of anything else
@@event-keystrim213 6 actually They BuT BuT Saar it WaS Common
Have a look at: "e risale english" type exactly in a search box, pops up at the top.
Say bye bye to American aid little boy
Correction: Aisha was only six, not eight.
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet (ﷺ) departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married `Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.
@@worfoz thanks for that correction, well, that is even more messed up than I remembered
It's the same in Belgium. Save Europe
Too late. It's their land now. Embrace Quran and Islam. ☪.
The larger part of Dutchmen of foreign descent and of recent immigrants are not orthodox Sunni Muslims, let it be islamists. As among people of Turkish decent, half of them are Alawites, Christians, liberal Sunnis or members of other minorities. The same holds true of recent immigrants from Syria and part of the refugees from Iraq. Immigrants from Iran are for the larger part critical of the Iranian regime and secular minded. A I see it, islam bashing is largely counterproductive as it drives liberal Muslims into the arms of orthodoxy or worse.
tolerance to intolerance is self un-aliving
i have no problem with immigration, but people need to integrate into our society.
to add to this, people can believe what they want, but a must is speaking the dutch language coherently, don't push your own religion onto others who don't believe in it. and don't force your cultural norms on the Dutch people...
demographics is destiny
No Muslims can't.
Islam doesn't allow it.
No subject is forbidden in a democratic society.
Not true. The weak spot of a democratic society is it's possible to kill democracy with democracy.
Unless the majority deems it forbidden.
Such is democracy.
If only that was true... Unfortunately it isn't.
The generalisation of Muslims is truly astonishing. Your issue is with Sunni extremists and their failure to integrate into western society.
Take the Ismailis as an example they are progressive, peaceful people. The Fatimid empire championed secularism and were more tolerant than any other European nation. Islam is practiced by more than 2 billion people they all have different interpretations of Islam and it’s unfair to judge them all in the same way. Did anyone condemn the entire Christian faith for the actions of Jim Jones ? How about for the actions of David Kuresh ? How is it fair to generalise a religion which is practiced by over 2 billion people for the actions of a minority.
If Netherlands will exist in 100y... Wilders will be a national hero
As a foreigner who lives in the Netherlands, I have always defended the beautiful Dutch culture and language and will keep doing it. The Netherlands must stay the Netherlands
How much of what makes our culture great can we keep, if we start oppressing some minority group? And why not be confident that the Muslim immigrants, like all other previous immigrants, find their place, take on what is good about our culture, and find a way to live with the rest?
I honestly think we need to think more about taxing expats. They come here, live on all that great government investment, and get a big tax break. Also the more affluent they are, the more likely it is that they use some sort of tax arbitrage to lower their contribution to our collective. And then they use that extra disposable income to bring a mayor imbalance to the housing market. Also I've never met anyone in finance who learned our language and very very few in IT. Unlike the Muslims, by attitude and action they clearly show they don't belong.
The Netherlands have given up their faith and have changed. What is the Netherlands ? What religion will you choose ? WIll you continue to change ? How do you know what is a good or a bad change ?
@@anxoidenamikaze1551Netherlands - Ideal Democratic Country
Religion:- Atheism
Change:- If pragmatic then why not
Right wrong:-Just use humanity as a lens
11:12 12% of Christians agreed that the rules of the Quaran are more important than the law??😅
those were christians from arab countries, they basically are islamic but just call it slightly differently, its so muslim countries can say they are diverse, like those churches they found that were used as weapons stockpiles
no, the Christians were asked about the bible instead. Kind of stupid to not show it in the video, but they weren't asked about the Quran lol.
@@lars7747 nope, see my other comment, they were asked about the bible, not the Quran.
@toucane2124 thanks for this clarification
if you look at the crime numbers presented in this video, highest crime rate belongs to immigrants coming from Antilles, Morocco and Suriname. Lowest crime rates belongs to Turkish, Indonesian and Chinese. blaming Turkish people doesn’t make any sense here. Why he isn’t talking about Surinamese? most dangerous neighborhoods are where moroccans and surinamese live.
During the postwar rebuilding and the growing prosperity, most Dutch parents wanted their kids to be white collar managers, if possible. Blue collar job wages were preferably kept low and most Dutch didn't want them. Enter the "guest worker from abroad" phenomenon, which became a practice in Western European countries. The Swiss were the only ones with a long term thought-through approach. Guest worker licenses and visas were valid as long as work contracts lasted and settlement was clearly stated as being temporary. Many other countries (Germany, Netherlands, France, UK) were less strict about it. In the Netherlands, no trouble and funds were invested in integration and guest workers were supposed to find their own way around in Dutch society. Due to blue collar labor shortage, foreign workers remained necessary and according to Dutch law, employment for a few years in the same job earned the right to have a fixed job status. The situation of families staying behind and being maintained by money sent over, changed into families being moved over to the Netherlands and settled, united with the working head of the family. Guest workers now lived in communities and lived like they did in their home countries (own meeting places, own places of worship, own shops with goods from home, own neighbourhood elders and clergy), because integration and a strictly monitored compliance to Dutch society rules were still neglected. And don't forget the neglected aftermath and unfinished business from our colonial past. Multiculturalism was supposed to blossom on its own and right wrongs and solve differences, but it didn't. Multiculti efforts have largely been an exercise in overestimated political wishful thinking. The Swiss don't have these problems nearly as much, since they regulated things by law from the beginning, and enforce it. Foreigners are made sure to understand and agree to this before being allowed to stay and work in Switzerland. Additionally, the Swiss have no colonial past and are not morally required to repair damages and feel shame and guilt.
So, the present situation should be no surprise. Which doesn't mean that the communities of guest workers and ex-colonial fellow countrymen are mainly criminal and unadapted; only a small portion of them really are. The awkward neglect seems to repeat itself when caring for refugees. Services for that are understaffed, politicians promise too much and people in the street are getting fed up, because the number of people to adopt is too big. The cherry on the cake is the fact that the reason for most refugees to come here in the first place (their homes and countries having been destroyed in wars started by the West), is neatly kept away from important national discussions. So, it's easy for our bleached loudmouth to spew cheap talk and "simple measures", but we still have to see his first practical contribution to a real solution yet. Wilders is our Trump, he makes popular sounds and oozes false hope, but is bought by the same money, bows to Israel and ultimately won't or can't deliver what he promised during elections. And i say all this as a white guy born in Holland, not as a guest worker.
What is the solution? Are you happy with the destruction of your country? The loss of your culture.? The rampant violent crime?
Trump built the wall...unfinished during first term and about to be finished during his second term. You are unfair to Wilders, he's doing what no other politician dared to do. Give him time and more support and he will succeed in stopping the tide of Islamization in Holland!
There are far too many (guest workers) that do not work and fleece the country's benefits system like cock roaches and they are absolutely gross about it
I am a Brazilian digital nomad and an atheist. I have lived for a while in Morocco, Egypt, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and Indonesia, as well as in other countries around the world. However, in all of these Muslim-majority countries, there are many Christians, some are locals and many tourists, and they are treated very well. On the contrary, they love to get to know other cultures. I strongly recommend everyone to get on a plane and go and get to know other cultures.
And yes. I know that there is a problem of differences in thinking between immigrants and locals in Europe. This is obvious because the values are different. Muslims still follow their fairy tales to the letter, while Christians have abandoned their medieval beliefs and no longer burn heretics at the stake. But there is one fact that we have to pay attention to. Immigrants are mostly people with little education and therefore have not had opportunities in their countries. When they arrive in Europe, they do not have the best working conditions, their children do not have the best schools and there is great prejudice among the European population that causes segregation of this population, preventing them from integrating into society.
As an example, I will cite one case: in Brazil, there are 8 million descendants of Lebanese in a country of 220 million. But Brazilian society is so open to integrating foreigners as equals that all of them are completely integrated into our population and today all of them have the same values as Brazilian society, including adopting our religions. Of course, the case is different because Brazil, like the United States, is basically made up of immigrants. But this statement is true: Integration is the key.
You are right. That is why nobody cares. Nobody wants to actually solve the problem. Politicians profit from it and average person is too dumb to understand it. They literally took the poorest people from Morocco and Turkey then worked them very hard for little gain while segregating them. What else did they actually expect?
Hi, I am from a Jordanian Christian family (but I am personally an atheist), and I agree with what you said.
Thank you for your kind words. I hope you had a nice time in Jordan
Yeah, except Lebanon is a special case within the Islamic world, still having a large(and functional) Christian demographic within the country whereas in any other Muslim majority nation its Christian population has all but vanished. Similarly the Islam itself is divided between Sunni, Shiite, Druze, etc, again unlike most other Islamic countries which have a clear majority for 1 sect or another. Also, sorry to burst your bubble but Brazil is not a first world nation. It may be tolerant to foreigners, by Brazilian standards at least, but the quality of life of the average Brazilian is significantly lower than the average European(even if we include 'problematic' Europe like the Balkans). That is to say that the differences between the middle class and the lower class are not as distinct in Brazil as they are in Europe, thus the envy levels aren't the same. It also helps that Brazil isn't dominated by people who are obsessed with alphabet rights, religious rights and whatnot. All that is to say that Brazil and the actual western world(Europe, North America and Australia/New Zealand) are very different beasts with very different issues.
@@Asd-tk2if exactly!
@@CoreDump451 An unforgettable time. Incredible country!
We see the same problem in Australia now unfortunately.
0:59 I cannot find the source for this. somehow help.
It's source number 6 in my script, and it's on page 97 here:
www.scp.nl/publicaties/publicaties/2015/12/16/werelden-van-verschil
The source is in Dutch. But if you go to page 97 of this PDF you'll find a graph with the full results of this poll, which is partly shown in my video.
We need a Wilders in Canada.
Slowly more people dare to talk about REPOPULATION
OMVOLKING as they say in NL
Culture and traditions are thrown away by Rutte governments
what a load of bull, the Dutch have been multicultural since the "golden age". Cmon now
@@koenbreet9876 4 million migrants in 14 years is not the way it was, these people are not integraded as others were
Everything has a limit. It's time to clean up. Respect only to the REAL Dutch
You have someone speaking Arab when you are talking about what Turkish people was saying. It's important to mark a difference between Turkish people and Arabs. It is not the same
same difference, turkish and arab are sister cultures, the turks in turkiye are not turkic in any way.
@adamelghalmi9771 have you lived in any of those countries? If you have the difference is obvious. Yes, some similarities but a lot huge differences.
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@@simplelifelucy i have, the biggest difference, i would say, is the language, and some certain traditions.
@@adamelghalmi9771 me too and I can name lot more. Although depends on the region a lot of the behaviors are different.. the way they treat religion it has differences too and because here the topic is being Muslim that it's why I wanted to make the differenciation.
i like diversity, but i hate when people call replacement diversity
These data are overly simplistic and lack the context and nuances needed for a deep understanding. It's problematic to reduce complex religious beliefs to mere percentages. Are these the empirical data you're using for your hitpiece about the "forbidden topic"?
correct then instead of complain. if you know better, then show it.
@@RednasXYZABC123 Corrections should only be made by qualified people with empirical data. That was my point of criticism. Thank you for confirming my point with your attempt to criticise me.
@@Charles44izy so you don't know better and are leaving it up to others who you deem more qualified to correct. wow such bravery. whell done keyboard warrior. i did not confirm your point but you already know that. thank you for confirming you don't know better. i'll stop waisting my time with you. i hope you grow and learn into a fine lad. may christ be with you
So what context is lacking according to you?
@@Weda01 You're overlooking the fact that religious adherence isn't uniform; it varies with education, cultural background, and personal belief systems. For instance, in countries where religious law coexists with state law, the interpretation of 'importance' could differ vastly from places where secularism dominates. By not acknowledging these layers, you're reducing complex human beliefs to mere data points, which is not only oversimplistic but potentially misleading. Understanding religion requires looking beyond numbers to see the rich tapestry of individual and societal influences at play.
It's not just NL. Germany has also been occupied by the "New Ottoman Empire"!
No, we're not, gtfoh...
the immigration issue is fairly simple. All the people you bring in who contribute and have the same values are welcomed easily, and those who don't align well you bring in slowly so they can adapt and fit in.
You put Turks and Moroccans side by side, but the survey results and reactions seem very different from each other. While the crime rate of Turks was 3 times that of the Dutch in 2005, this rate decreased to 2.64 times in 2022.
Also, although the Antilles, or Christians, are the group with the highest crime rate, you never talked about this.
Even though Turks started from a poor background, they are a community that has not forgotten that they went there to earn money. The habit of classifying Turks with other Muslims just because they are Muslims is too easy and prevents us from understanding their sociology.
Antilleans are a significantly smaller group, and they are from territories that were formerly colonized by the Netherlands. That, amongst other things, changes the debate about their crime rates. It's worth talking about, but it's just not the main subject of this video. I emphasized Turkish migrants because they constitute a significant group, and together with Moroccans they account for the largest growth of Islam in the Netherlands, which is the main subject of this video.
@@HindsightYT Sorry, but your answer didn't go further than repeating itself. I also objected to this concept. If the Antilles are a small group, then the crime rate is very, very high among that group, and if the Turks are a large group, then by that logic, the crime rate among them should be very low. I was trying to give you a key to things that are not very appropriate to put together.
@@serpilbardot3431 Why do you think that a larger group would have lower crime rates by default?
Geert Wilders is a hero for saying what everyone thinks but are too afraid to say.
The way I look at it is if you migrate to another country, you assimilate to the culture, not the other way around.
I don't invite you into my home so you can berate me or my family for having too much freedom.
They CHOSE to move to the netherlands, they weren't FORCED to move.
2:20 is certainly not true. Being Catholic was banned in public spaces. 70% of the people (that actually were Catholic) had to come in houses or shelters for holding services.
I am a Dutch citizen currently migrating to Madrid, Spain. Madrid also has a lot of imigration. Primarily from Latin America. The only difference is that the Latin Americans are openly grateful to be allowed to live and work in Madrid, and are respectful to Spain's culture. Now, of course, there are some muslims that are like that as well in Western Europe, so I am not speaking for all, obviously. However, a significant percentage of muslims do believe their culture is superior over ours and that the Dutch should change their way of life. A large percentage is unwilling to emancipate into Western culture. This is, what I believe, to be at the heart of the problem.
The other problem is these people are largely useless in the work environment. They're good as cheap labor but lack the labor productivity to actually help the economy. There's this myth that immigrants magically become more productive when they move from country to country this isn't how this works. Unless the countries they come from have an equally developed society.(not the case with the Islamic world).
Latin American people have the same religion, language and many aspects of the culture, they are just Spanish too...
but weirdly the wokes (the gouvernement) always prefer the people who don't eat pork lol
It all boils down to education. If a person is brought up to think critically then everything else falls in the background and is no more relevant.
I’m a gay Jew and Geert wilders is the best 👍🏻
Keep the distictive in mind that Muslims aren't Islam, it is true that Islam is incompatible with Dutch culture. So either Muslims adapt to Dutch culture (inburgering) where I would say proficiency of Dutch language is mamdatory, or the Netherlands will turn into an Islamic caliphate in due time.
There was no shortage of low-skilled workers. Companies never wanted to give fair compensation for labour, so they made that shortage. Low skilled labour market in Netherlands is like this: We will disrespect, you every step of the way, intentionally and not, will not provide any way of countering management abuse and if you complain we'll make it your fault, even mentioning unfair/discriminatory treatment will lead you in trouble.
Netherlands has still same low skill recruitment strategy as it was, just now it's mostly from Europe. They hire "temporary" workers but expect you to work for many years but perfectly indefinitely and only for minimum wage even though jobs are often unreasonably complicated, stressful and you aren't treated as a real person.
Most nordic countries have this. But people are quite naive about how their countries have been using immigrant labor since the 60s, they all believe that the welfare state is applicable to all the people living in the country at any given moment but it's not true at all.
They believe it intentionally, despite what they see around them - darker skinned people doing all the service jobs for very little money and no full-time employment, only flex jobs.
flex jobs meaning 8 hours a week in this job, another 12 in a second job, always kept running in between shitty jobs, pushed to the maximum of your energy in all of them, afraid you will be replaced by a younger and more energetic immigrant.
The problem with immigrants is that they are frozen in time. Those who immigrated from Turkey are trying to live in the Netherlands with the culture of Turkey in the 50s and 60s.Unlike there, Istanbul is probably more secular than the immigrant communities!
A lot of people are frozen in time, or even in fantasy. Geert Wilders is a prime example. He is frozen in the Netherlands the way it was basically when he was born. He's not telling people our country was fairly poor at the time, that women had little rights (well actually he doesn't really care about that), that men had to work really hard, that we were less healthy etcetera.
His stories are too good to be true, and we all know what happens when things seem to good to be true.
The crime rate in Morocco is lower than the crime rate in the Netherlands. Maybe it's a problem with Dutch society...
The crime rate in Morocco is not lower?? What are you talking about, Please refer to your source.
I’m not sure about crime in general but let’s look at the homicide rate per 100000.
NL: 0.691
Morocco: 1.705
some people (media elites - you all know who they are) make you think that using drugs is freedom.. they are killing your future!
"The Sword of Truth", a book series which began in 1994, depicted unbelievably well the results of being overly tolerant. How terrifying it is to see the events of the book unfold in real life 30 years later.
The Sword of Truth is pretty much just the work of Ayn Rand translated to a high fantasy setting. Whatever you think of its subject material, Goodkind's work needs to stay in the past for both his creepy obsession with (oopsie, almost) rape and his godawful writing style. And yes, I actually bought and read all of his Sword of Truth and spin-off stuff as a teen and was quite disgusted when I later revisited those books.
Comments make me sad. You really don’t like me and I’m born here
No, we do not like your fascist dangerous ideology, do not pretend to play the victim...
I know it's quite sad, it's best to stay away from TH-cam and comment sections. It's hard to argue with so many. Keep strong.
I dont think people specifically dont like you. They just dont like the ideology of islam.
Your invasiveness makes entire Europe population sad. And me especially, how dare you.
@@Artekus You see in normal conversation I would have no idea so many harbour such views, but now that I know I understand better, how scared I should be.
It looks like Geert Wilders masterminded his political success by criticizing Islam in a way that gained support from the common Dutch public, manipulating their perceptions of Islam. Now that he is in power, he has changed or softened his views and is not committed to the positions he held as a politician before. Clearly, he played with the sentiments of the Dutch public. People should think carefully before blindly trusting what politicians tell them.
Great video!
The history of mass immigration is filled with incidents like this. When millions of Italians came over to the USA, there were huge problems of segregation, mafia, religion, but in 2-3 generations they became more American than apple pie. Similarly Irish migration to Liverpool and Glasgow resulted in the return of the orange order in those places and mass riots but now they have become a part of Glasgow and Liverpool, I mean we got the Beatles cause of them.
As a Muslim, I slightly agree, I do think think that culture SHOULD be preserved, this isn't really about religion, but more so Culture.
Depends. The part of the culture that thinks of woman as lesser people and gays as bad should not be preserved. Art, food, music and such can stay of course.
Culture certainly should be preserved and honoured on a personal level, and some of that will inevitably trickle into the culture on a national level and so enrich it. On the other hand, we need to be wary of what parts of culture we emphasise or condone within the framework of national identity and laws. Some things should be celebrated, some don't quite fit and are best limited to a symbolic nod, and others are fundamentally incompatible with the national culture and laws and need to be left behind entirely. Tradition is a beautiful thing, but it should never be allowed as justification for what is otherwise deemed reprehensible.
This also goes for the Dutch culture of treating immigrants as expendable worker bees with inferior culture. Just because it once fit with the prevailing political and cultural narrative, doesn't mean it still has a place today.