Unlike most people's belief, evolution is not a one way street or a straightforward path. What failed in the past due to being irrelevant for its time may very well be successful under different circumstances and time as such we may encounter the same failure over and over until, who knows, it becomes a success. It's a chaos!
It's always fun to see computers implemented with discrete MOSFETs. Wintergatan's Marble Machine as the background music is just icing on cake. Awesome work, dude!
It deserves a million views! Unfortunately, there are not enough smart people who are able to see the true beauty behind this transistor-based computer!
I have no idea what it is, does, or took to create but I find it to be amazing, beautiful, and inspiring. We don't know how much there is out there that we don't know about. This is definitely something that I had no clue about. Fascinating though! Great Job! Amazing skills!
How can you find it inspiring if you "have no idea what it is"? You don't really think of what you type here, you just copy the most frequent used phrases used for showing your approval of something. True npc bio bot
@@twoblocksdown5464 It inspired me to want to learn about and to understand it better. Nice try though. You clearly are not as smart as you think you are.
Wow! This is amazing! Building computer from scratch is my dream for many years, so far I have some progress but only in software. Maybe someday I'll try to do it in hardware ;) People like you are extremely inspiring! Never stop and keep the excellent work!
Amazing project! I love this use of custom characters bitmaps on the character display. I came here from your Hackaday comment on the HD44780 display article.
nicee and Marbles too ... i came here as I wondered about making memory chips with rasp pi pico's and alike, the be able to make un-purchasable memory for old dieing arcade machines or computers but using modern memory is still on my mind, this is a great way of maybe explaining some of that prcoess... reminds me of Computer Science and Pong !
Very well done indeed! I always dreamed of designing something like this, but I was always too lazy, and struggled finding other hobbies, hehe. :D Your PCBs look so perfect and sophisticated too. It means a lot when they were professionally printed, not made in a junk lab in a garage, but of course, it is the design that matters, the rest, like PCB crafting, then exhausting soldering work, is another story. Again, I'm truly amazed.
Muito bom amigo! 😍😍❤ Projeto muito inspirador, parabéns! Sou brasileiro e tenho um projeto de computador próprio que estou desenvolvendo que segue esta mesma ideia, no entanto, o circuito está apenas no Simulador Proteus, não saiu do esquemático ainda.
you can also try to replace the ROM using a diode matrix(or transistor matrix), and DRAM using capacitor transistor with a controller to refresh the data in the capacitor
you could multiply the signals of the address and data bus indicators by the frequency perceived by the human eye, such as 15 Hz, and then they would blink coolly
Great tip! I hadn't thought of that at all, but you're right. Unfortunately, this would have required about 10 additional transistors for each LED, and that's too much for just a nice visual effect.
Hola, al no saber tu idioma no sé qué que se trata tu proyecto, No tiene traducción y la página a la que haces referencia tampoco traduce. Sería posible traducción??? Me gustaría poder replicar tu proyecto.
Yes, it is possible. I made fast gates with push-pull-outputs. If you would replace one of the two output transistors with an resistor, you could save lots of transistors. But this would reduce the maximum possible clock frequency. My goal was to keep TraNOR software compatible to MyNOR. So I had to reach 4 MHz (TraNOR can now run with up to 7 MHz). With transistor-resistor-logic I would have reached only 500 kHz or even less.
Impresive will power to complete this !!! And even more to simulate graphics on this display... i'm afraid to imagine this code especialy for BreakOut And small advice (after traped myself) about sound... use seprate stablisator (7805 etc.) for ADC and amplifier(operation amplifer helps beacuse can substract mess on GND line) suplly voltages... Ditigtal circuits puts a lot of garabge on power lines.
The simulated graphics were very difficult to realize on this slow device: Since the LCD has only 8 user-configurable characters, I have to reload the character bitmaps in the LCD very often during the game. The sound is generated with an R2R DAC and a VCO, and the PCB layout has an optimized ground path to reduce digital noise coupling. (I didn't want to waste countless transistors on a discrete op-amp as well). The DAC and the VCO are supplied with 10 V, which are stabilized with the active Zener diode TLV431. Without this voltage stabilization the music would sound much crueler ;-)
I prefer complete rewerse engineering modern cpis and other components which probably will show lots of surprises ;) but starting from scratch and from first computing mechanisms iswhere it should begin of course . Modern computers become too small that allmost requires nano remote devices to rewerse engineering which is not possible this days ;p
Too bad this is two years old.... I would replace your ROM with XY jumper grid/core memory, and replace your FET's with BJT's. This way you will have something that is reasonably EMP resistant. Another option for memory would be flash DAC + charged caps/series resistors. Newer FLASH chips use something similar to this "MLC." Edit: Noticing on your web page that you mentioned some of the above possibilities. I understand the decisions, but I feel like it undermines a cool goal; to have your own computer built TOTALLY on discrete components. Kind of a minor disappointment. Maybe you are working on it?
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While manufacturers are trying to cram more tranistors into a single IC, you're taking it in the opposite direction. 😁
Negative Moore's Law
Well... It's always going to be less than 10 MHz... But it's lovely.
Unlike most people's belief, evolution is not a one way street or a straightforward path. What failed in the past due to being irrelevant for its time may very well be successful under different circumstances and time as such we may encounter the same failure over and over until, who knows, it becomes a success. It's a chaos!
It's always fun to see computers implemented with discrete MOSFETs. Wintergatan's Marble Machine as the background music is just icing on cake. Awesome work, dude!
Tbh the thing I'm MOST impressed with in this video is how you made Breakout work on a character screen lol
It deserves a million views! Unfortunately, there are not enough smart people who are able to see the true beauty behind this transistor-based computer!
A good exhibit for a museum, amazing details are masterfully placed
Kinda mind boggling, we take modern technology as something really normal but there is so much more behind it. Love it, fantastic work!
YOU take modern technology as something really normal......
Amazing work - keep building things and sharing your work...
Dude, that's super cool! I didn't know that a multi-functional computer could be made with so few transistors.
NICE! Thanks. Was pondering building a computer out of transistors
Wow... This is amazing! I really like this computer and hope to see more!
First thought - HEY, he's rocking the Marble Machine theme from Wintergatan! Okay, back to the project...
Let's just say an adventure of using less popular but less censored search engine had led me to find this neat project.
Impressive! I want to build one! It's a masterpiece! I would put it in a frame on the wall!
You might like my channel. I'm building an AEON CLOCK / CALENDAR. It displays the AGE OF THE UNIVERSE in binary (in seconds...)
The Hewlett-Packard 9100A was an all transistor desktop computer, of about this size.
In 1969!
With a tape drive, and a printer, and a plotter!
and price of good car!
I have no idea what it is, does, or took to create but I find it to be amazing, beautiful, and inspiring. We don't know how much there is out there that we don't know about. This is definitely something that I had no clue about. Fascinating though! Great Job! Amazing skills!
How can you find it inspiring if you "have no idea what it is"? You don't really think of what you type here, you just copy the most frequent used phrases used for showing your approval of something. True npc bio bot
@@twoblocksdown5464 It inspired me to want to learn about and to understand it better. Nice try though. You clearly are not as smart as you think you are.
Wow! This is amazing! Building computer from scratch is my dream for many years, so far I have some progress but only in software. Maybe someday I'll try to do it in hardware ;) People like you are extremely inspiring! Never stop and keep the excellent work!
Imagine if a computer scientist ever said
"I love MyNORs, its the easiest to play with"
Very cool indeed, I built your MyNor and its associated boards. All that SMT would keep me bust for a few weeks :-) Love it.
Amazing project! I love this use of custom characters bitmaps on the character display.
I came here from your Hackaday comment on the HD44780 display article.
Bro you deserve Millions of Subscribers
I love making computers too. You did great work
nicee and Marbles too ... i came here as I wondered about making memory chips with rasp pi pico's and alike, the be able to make un-purchasable memory for old dieing arcade machines or computers but using modern memory is still on my mind, this is a great way of maybe explaining some of that prcoess... reminds me of Computer Science and Pong !
Some 70 years after Colossus at bletchley park. Very very nice done.
Very well done indeed! I always dreamed of designing something like this, but I was always too lazy, and struggled finding other hobbies, hehe. :D
Your PCBs look so perfect and sophisticated too. It means a lot when they were professionally printed, not made in a junk lab in a garage, but of course, it is the design that matters, the rest, like PCB crafting, then exhausting soldering work, is another story. Again, I'm truly amazed.
Awesome, big show 👏👏👏 like and subscribed
Those transistor IC replacements look awesome! I would love to try that as a small project
7mhz! THATS FASTER THAN MY 2.50 mhz LAPTOP! good job bro!
this is one hell of a computer. great work
The most beautiful amazing PCB I've ever seen in my entire long life.
Really awesome work 😍
Wow! This is absolutely awesome! Great work!
Now THAT is impressive!
This is pretty impressive
Awesome! Now I want to build over too 😅
Congrats! You've worked hard on this.
Awesome project! Working on my own 8 bit completely discrete computer/CPU but at the moment. It's VERY primitive :]
😭
I loved that so much
I should make one myself too
A work of art!
Such fitting music!
охренеть, всю логику на ключи перевести. это круто! :)
Crazy!!!!
Special thanks for sound of silence
A transistorized computer built with Mosfets and the Marble machines, both analog machines. I like it...
fabulous work!!!
WoW it’s amazing !! The result is incredible !
I am also doing a custom computer but with 74x chips as it is simpler for me to handle ;)
Even simpler if you use a microprocessor. Even simpler still if you use a PIC microcontroller or an Arduino...
Incredible !
Great Job 👍
Really great device :-) Thanks for showing it!
Beautiful!
excellente j'ai franchement l'adore bon courage 👏👏
Great background-music
Great build and video!
Absolutely insane.
That's amazing!!!
Ahh... winter garden marble machine music...
That is really cool!
Perserverance!
just awesome!
amazing
Muito bom amigo! 😍😍❤ Projeto muito inspirador, parabéns! Sou brasileiro e tenho um projeto de computador próprio que estou desenvolvendo que segue esta mesma ideia, no entanto, o circuito está apenas no Simulador Proteus, não saiu do esquemático ainda.
Awesome❤
I KNEW i had heard that song before
I guess you could say it's built from dis-integrated circuits.
Excellent!!
Amazing, please show how to build step by step!
That's pretty awesome.
How do you solder theses tiny transistors?
I didn't populate the PCBs myself. In China there is a cheap PCB manufacturer called JLCPCB that can also assemble your boards.
@@mynor509 I see, it should avoid a lot of suffering :D
Thank you for the answer!
Very cool!
Triumph of form over content.
you can also try to replace the ROM using a diode matrix(or transistor matrix), and DRAM using capacitor transistor with a controller to refresh the data in the capacitor
Make transistor and IC tutorials! I'm subscribing, by the way.
Hi, what software was that at @0.41 that you used to make the schematics please? Very interesting project, and the whole setup looks neat and cool.
I am using KiCad for all my projects.
How many digits of the counting device does your transistor PC have - 4, 8, 16, 32?
Sorry for the machine translation.
Awesome!
It still uses some ICs. The real challenge would be to go 100% discrete components.
To store the code .... it wont add much really.
The RAM will
how do you make the assets for the games? btw great project
Genio!!!!!
you could multiply the signals of the address and data bus indicators by the frequency perceived by the human eye, such as 15 Hz, and then they would blink coolly
Great tip! I hadn't thought of that at all, but you're right. Unfortunately, this would have required about 10 additional transistors for each LED, and that's too much for just a nice visual effect.
Multiply or divide?
@@deang5622 logical multiplication
Hola, al no saber tu idioma no sé qué que se trata tu proyecto,
No tiene traducción y la página a la que haces referencia tampoco traduce.
Sería posible traducción???
Me gustaría poder replicar tu proyecto.
Super!!!
Cool !!!
I wonder if it is possible to make computer with exactly the same functionality, but with fewer transistors.
Yes, it is possible. I made fast gates with push-pull-outputs. If you would replace one of the two output transistors with an resistor, you could save lots of transistors. But this would reduce the maximum possible clock frequency. My goal was to keep TraNOR software compatible to MyNOR. So I had to reach 4 MHz (TraNOR can now run with up to 7 MHz). With transistor-resistor-logic I would have reached only 500 kHz or even less.
Now move to a smaller transistor package and populate both sides of a single pcb :)
This is something, man)
Impresive will power to complete this !!!
And even more to simulate graphics on this display... i'm afraid to imagine this code especialy for BreakOut
And small advice (after traped myself) about sound... use seprate stablisator (7805 etc.) for ADC and amplifier(operation amplifer helps beacuse can substract mess on GND line) suplly voltages... Ditigtal circuits puts a lot of garabge on power lines.
The simulated graphics were very difficult to realize on this slow device: Since the LCD has only 8 user-configurable characters, I have to reload the character bitmaps in the LCD very often during the game. The sound is generated with an R2R DAC and a VCO, and the PCB layout has an optimized ground path to reduce digital noise coupling. (I didn't want to waste countless transistors on a discrete op-amp as well). The DAC and the VCO are supplied with 10 V, which are stabilized with the active Zener diode TLV431. Without this voltage stabilization the music would sound much crueler ;-)
Wow!!! Very great for me . But is it possible ?
Cool.
I prefer complete rewerse engineering modern cpis and other components which probably will show lots of surprises ;) but starting from scratch and from first computing mechanisms iswhere it should begin of course . Modern computers become too small that allmost requires nano remote devices to rewerse engineering which is not possible this days ;p
its bassed on miner?????
Interesting, but a definitely dont like that you use the wintergatan song for video.
Will the USB interface be developed? )))
where i can buy one
Massive 🆒 Cool
But can it run Crysis?
The human brain has no cpu either. MyNOR seems to work like a neural network.
Your project is very sexy. Thanks for sharing.
Too bad this is two years old....
I would replace your ROM with XY jumper grid/core memory, and replace your FET's with BJT's. This way you will have something that is reasonably EMP resistant.
Another option for memory would be flash DAC + charged caps/series resistors. Newer FLASH chips use something similar to this "MLC."
Edit: Noticing on your web page that you mentioned some of the above possibilities. I understand the decisions, but I feel like it undermines a cool goal; to have your own computer built TOTALLY on discrete components. Kind of a minor disappointment. Maybe you are working on it?
👍👍👍
Not enough Blinkenlights or ClicketyClack. Inferior device.
can you make tetris in this?
I already made Tetris for it. You can download the game here: mynor.org/software.htm#games
Why?
To make money in TH-cam..
@@deang5622 more like waste time and money on TH-cam.
why not?
Because some ppl can, some can't.
@@skorpionmk9390 you just passed Philosophy 101...
Can it run Crysis?