Tennis Serve: Serve Progression With NTRP 3.0 Player | Connecting Tennis | Serve
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Hey Guys! This time you will see part of a live class with Pedro who is a 3.0 player (compare to USTA rating) working so hard to get to the next level and be competitive at the 4.0 level. This video is just from some of the things we worked for his serve, but soon we will have uploaded all the strokes and his progression! Enjoy!
FOLLOW HIS PROGRESSION!!
I understand your explanations perfectly!
3:25~ of this video was very helpful.Thanks!
Thanks a lot!! :)
changing serving motion is very difficult, when you learned the right way it makes you serve worst cuz you are not used to it, which is frustrating, it will take time to adjust
I am so lucky to see this video.. Very useful lesson.. thank you!!!
This series is awesome! Thanks!
he's tossing the ball with his legs, throws the balance and timing off, he bends his legs to throw the ball and then straighten them only to bend them again when he should...basically he bends his knees twice instead of once, right as you throw the ball up, your knees should bend and as the ball drops your legs explode up...
He still have the raquet face open during the serve like a pizza delivery guy. I say that cause I have the same problem and I can't get rid of it although I have had several coaches :(
bailadorr Yes he has that “pizza guy” problem, That was one of the things I marked as something to fix. Is a bad habit he has, but there are many drills to fix that (that he is already doing) and has improved a lot. It has to be fixed with the right approach. You will see in the coming videos his progression. Thanks!! All the best!
I have gone through the journey from being waiter (or pizza delivery like you called it) to having a proper motion. A couple of critical points to share from my experience and see if that helps:
1) Imagine having the whole service motion leading with the tennis edge until the very last split second before contact (pronation happens naturally at contact causing the racket to open itself without thinking about it...when i overthink it, there tends to be premature racket face opening and becoming waiters)
2) The body position at contact is NOT chest pointing to the net or opponent but rather somewhere half way between facing the net and the fence. Have faith that the ball will be pointed to the opposite side of the court due to pronation (ie racket face direction and chest direction is not the same; the latter lags behind the other) The body will eventually rotate and chest pointing to be net but only in the follow through part of he service motion)
Took me a while to realize and once the right picture is formed in the mind the proper motion comes quite soon and naturally. Gd luck!
In this age of phone video cameras I find it hard to believe the pizza position is still a problem for so many people. You don’t even need a camera. The reflection off a sliding glass door is fine. Plus it gives you instant feedback to see what your arm is doing. Unless your arm is possessed by a supernatural spirit tell yourself my arm does what “I” make it do, “I’m in total control.” Try closing your eyes and touch the tip of your nose with your index finger tip. Same thing but with your pinky finger. If your not drunk this should have been easy to do. Yes you can control you arm even if you can’t actually see what it’s doing. You just displayed more body awareness than is required to stop using the pizza position. In the trophy position your forearm has to be at least mildly pronated. Yes pronation doesn’t occur only once, just before hitting the ball. The forearm then relaxes and supinates (opposite of pronation) during the back scratch phase of the service and as the arm and racket travel upward and towards the ball. The racket is edge on to the ball and then pronation occurs just before contact occurs.
One of the underlying problems that lead so many to engage the pizza position is that they are afraid that if they don’t point the strings at the ball from early on in the service motion then contact with the ball is unlikely to occur. The drive to get the serve in overrides all other mental inputs. The coach says it’s not important to get the ball in during the lesson but the player subconsciously fights this notion and puts the racket back in the pizza position. Almost like a foreign entity was in control of the players arm. Having the racket in the proper position is on the face of it very easily to do from a purely physical standpoint. Your not being asked to do some kind of advanced yoga pose that requires some abnormal amount of flexibility or body control. But as long as the subconscious interferes with the process it will be slow going. Perhaps having the student face the back fence during part of the lesson would disengage the subconscious by eliminating the in or out element of the serve.
The serve should actually be the fastest stroke for a player to perfect. Why? Because it’s the easiest stroke to practice without a hitting partner. You can practice it as much as your ambition allows. You don’t even need a bucket of balls. A couple of balls and a wall are all that’s necessary. Yes it’s the most complex stroke in the game. But it’s also the only time you get to hit a ball that you are in complete control of. No time pressure and you get two tries to get it in. You don’t get a do over in any other phase of the game.
And like a thousand tennis videos will stress and explain, Continental grip please!
Super bro
Pin-point stance serve for NTRP 3.0 is very difficult specially with Valence its much easy platform stance legs together before using ground to jump to the ball and hit it. I may add platform stance, where you keep your feet solid, mush easy for player under 2 years of playing then bend your knees and jump to the serve. Just saying!!! :)
Lots of work to be done there still; serve is often the bottle neck blocking the progression to the next level. My problems are not serve based though; it is as good as anybody's, I guarantee! What is my bottle neck then?? It must be the mental aspect of the game added with certain lack of routine plus bad sleeps always before matches (2- 4 hours!!!). I will break to the high level I have potential when these things have been settled. But then again: can I do it with my current "coaching" or with my lazy self-coaching? Sure, since there are always these excellent resources to be found on TH-cam like Connecting Tennis. I will tell you when I have made it as i should break my vicious circle of playing so incredibly low under my abilities when it matters the most. I should beat many, if not most, of my current opponents even with my serve only! But no: Double faults and head heavy as a boulder ears humming! :D Thanks, Gaston. I will get there but patience and good sleeps before matches are the key! Geez.
Thanks for the comment Jack! Agree with you, sleep time is VERY important before matches or even training. It happens a lot what you mention that you should be beating most players you play only with the serve, that's more a mental blocking issue, I see it in a lot of players. I will have a mental coach (former Olympic Athlete) that will be writing about the mental part of tennis, she works with elite athletes now from all over the world. Hope her texts can help you man! All the best!
Thanks, man. I must take a look at that text when it comes out. Meanwhile Connecting Tennis and some other channels! :D -Well, I am advancing but not that fast at the moment (advancing on the training court; not in the matches or rankings). Then again, development is never linear either. Yet, this mental aspect and the related sleep deprivation in match situations - this issue I must (dis)solve first. Yup, frustrating sometimes but you must win your frustrations also!
Think his racket face is laying back like a frying pan when he reaches trophy pose because his grip is wrong. I can see it is closer to eastern grip.
Thanks for the comment. That's one of the things I corrected in the video, it's a bad habit, but he is working on it. The grip is 100% continental tough. Thanks!
Good coach