I've begun looking forward to your videos on Tuesdays, much the way I look forward to Monday's because of NicePeter. He makes me happy, you make me think (and happy). :)
You explained everything in this video perfectly!! I'm an actress so I understand all the "backstage" assets to a good production. I could never explain fully as you you did, the means for each role and position.
GREAT video! I'm smack dab in the middle of my own indie film and loving every minute of it. By the way, the lead actor is John Forston! I casted and directed John on my short film in LA years ago. He is still one of my FAVORITE actors I've ever worked with!! I hope to work with him again someday. Thanks again for the video!
this is my new favorite channel, I love seeing what you have to offer; it's always insightful and I always either learn something or have my perspective slightly tweaked. Keep up the great work!
As an independent director, I take issue with one of your responsibilities assigned to the DP. In all my cine classes and in my experience on film sets, it has always been made painfully clear that while the DP is photographically and technically responsible for the visual aesthetic of the film, the DIRECTOR determines the shot setup, the placement of the camera, and ultimately what the composition is. Some of this is by necessity as they work with actors on the blocking. If there is a pre-vis process, directors also typically thumb nail the screenplay themselves and work closely with a storyboard artist before a DP is even brought on board. EDIT: I don't mean to come off as a snob, but I face this misconception all the time. A typical moviegoer may go bananas for the composition of a shot, only to place all credit upon the DP and none on the director.
+Trevor Tillman The director/dp relationship is a case by case definition. Some directors will have strict ideas on shots composition and style, others rely on a cinematographer to add that element. Most fall in the middle, they have visual inspirations and maybe 2 shots on each scene that they want but they build the rest of the film out with the dp. This video's definition is broad enough and defines the responsibility in the context of "working closely with the director." Even when a full storyboard and shot list have been drawn up, any dp would review it and see what could be added/removed/changed which goes back to working closely with the director.
Some of the positions you describe go by different names in a big budget film. The UPM does the job of the big budget producers. The Assistant Director is actually the most inappropriately named title in big budget film, they're make-up artists. I learned this from interviewing Larry Franco back in 2004 while he was working on the first live action Hulk movie. As you describe the AD that would be filled again by the Producer and/or director. The Sound Recordists would be the Boom Operator.
Thanks for noticing the importance of sound. I've worked as sound recordist or boom operator on a couple of student films and it's not the most rewarding task... But since I'm actually an editor by trade I have to say: I prefer when the director is not the one who edits the film. Especially when talking about young and kinda inexperienced directors.
I knew there was a lot that went into filmmaking but other than a few Vloggers talking about their gear I had little idea so many people were involved.
You skipped Script Supervisor/Continuity :( ...also what about Grips or Data Wranglers? I know there's too many roles to count but to people who haven't been on sets this could've been more informative
You serious? Independent/low budget films I've worked on have grips because cam dept. need them for complex shots. Data Wrangling is often performed by cam assistants but often small shoots will have a dedicated wrangler. Script Supervisors are also on lots of small shoots, just on a smaller wage. Those roles do exist, they just aren't as obviously essential as camera operator or sound for example.
I just watched "Here Today" and I think I'll see a feature film of his on shelves in Walmart, and other places that sell dvd's and probably on netflix someday :]
Competing in film festivals, getting theater screenings, a good marketing push, momentum going into or following award season getting you extra screenings and marketing. Although most still don't make much money, if anything at all.
I've begun looking forward to your videos on Tuesdays, much the way I look forward to Monday's because of NicePeter. He makes me happy, you make me think (and happy). :)
I wanted to give up my dream to bring my stories to life but after seeing this, I changed my mind :)
Thank you, i have been working with independent film makers for 4 years now and thank you for telling people that allot goes into it.
This is a great video! I have shared it with the people I know because I think you do a great job of describing what we do as independent filmmakers.
Sure... "Independent film" motel room, riiiight gotcha, now, take off your clothes
You explained everything in this video perfectly!! I'm an actress so I understand all the "backstage" assets to a good production. I could never explain fully as you you did, the means for each role and position.
GREAT video! I'm smack dab in the middle of my own indie film and loving every minute of it. By the way, the lead actor is John Forston! I casted and directed John on my short film in LA years ago. He is still one of my FAVORITE actors I've ever worked with!! I hope to work with him again someday. Thanks again for the video!
I can't get past "4am on a Saturday night".
i know right. does that mean it's sunday morning?!?!
this is my new favorite channel, I love seeing what you have to offer; it's always insightful and I always either learn something or have my perspective slightly tweaked. Keep up the great work!
Every week the videos just get better and better.
Oh good golly I get so excited for these.
As an independent director, I take issue with one of your responsibilities assigned to the DP.
In all my cine classes and in my experience on film sets, it has always been made painfully clear that while the DP is photographically and technically responsible for the visual aesthetic of the film, the DIRECTOR determines the shot setup, the placement of the camera, and ultimately what the composition is. Some of this is by necessity as they work with actors on the blocking.
If there is a pre-vis process, directors also typically thumb nail the screenplay themselves and work closely with a storyboard artist before a DP is even brought on board.
EDIT: I don't mean to come off as a snob, but I face this misconception all the time. A typical moviegoer may go bananas for the composition of a shot, only to place all credit upon the DP and none on the director.
+Trevor Tillman The director/dp relationship is a case by case definition. Some directors will have strict ideas on shots composition and style, others rely on a cinematographer to add that element. Most fall in the middle, they have visual inspirations and maybe 2 shots on each scene that they want but they build the rest of the film out with the dp. This video's definition is broad enough and defines the responsibility in the context of "working closely with the director." Even when a full storyboard and shot list have been drawn up, any dp would review it and see what could be added/removed/changed which goes back to working closely with the director.
+Trevor Tillman I really like this video, but yeah, that part always irks me.
Edited out is the most important and unsung role -- the modest editor.
that was awesome! i love this, mainly because i want to be a director one day. i would love to see something about the post-production also
This was a great and succinct look at all the aspects involved in filming. Thank you :)
That was awesome.
Thanks for the clear, insightful and inspiring run down... and especially for not dumbing it all down too much.
Some of the positions you describe go by different names in a big budget film. The UPM does the job of the big budget producers. The Assistant Director is actually the most inappropriately named title in big budget film, they're make-up artists. I learned this from interviewing Larry Franco back in 2004 while he was working on the first live action Hulk movie. As you describe the AD that would be filled again by the Producer and/or director. The Sound Recordists would be the Boom Operator.
love this! thank you so much; this was super interesting :D
You're videos are always awsome and informative, keep up the videos they're great.
Thank you for making this! I super appreciated it, plus I totally agree...commercial "BTS" is just a recap of the movie. Yours, was spot on.
Excellent video! Well thought out and described.
this video could have replaced a semester of theater arts in high school, great job
You skipped the script supervisor or scripty and PA's. We can't live without any of them. Still, very well done! Subscribed and thx!
Noah's over modulated voice, priceless.
Not Noah, sorry. But the the guy narrating....
Thanks for noticing the importance of sound. I've worked as sound recordist or boom operator on a couple of student films and it's not the most rewarding task...
But since I'm actually an editor by trade I have to say: I prefer when the director is not the one who edits the film. Especially when talking about young and kinda inexperienced directors.
You forgot PA :P I'm going down to Birmingham to be a PA on a feature film. 10 day shoot. Pretty excited
yay
My mom ex husband is(was?) a gaffer/camera man. My mom did Hair and Make-up. They both worked in LA. Very cool to see a video like this :D
I knew there was a lot that went into filmmaking but other than a few Vloggers talking about their gear I had little idea so many people were involved.
trust me, even in the immediate crew, there's so many more crucial people involved.
It's so nice to listen to your talking :)
You skipped Script Supervisor/Continuity :( ...also what about Grips or Data Wranglers? I know there's too many roles to count but to people who haven't been on sets this could've been more informative
Probably those roles don't exist on their own and are the responsibility of someone else in a low budget film ilke this.
You serious? Independent/low budget films I've worked on have grips because cam dept. need them for complex shots. Data Wrangling is often performed by cam assistants but often small shoots will have a dedicated wrangler. Script Supervisors are also on lots of small shoots, just on a smaller wage. Those roles do exist, they just aren't as obviously essential as camera operator or sound for example.
That was as entertaining as it was informative. Great flow, and really fun to watch. HELL YEH
Beautiful thanks Evan :)
This is super interesting.
I love this :)
You would think people involved in filmmaking would know how to white balance their camera for tungsten... ;)
I just watched "Here Today" and I think I'll see a feature film of his on shelves in Walmart, and other places that sell dvd's and probably on netflix someday :]
I like how you notice the importance of sound in film.
And yes, feed your actors. We appreciate it. xD
Very well done! Informative and entertaining. BRAVO!!
Subbed.
Omg I live ten minutes from there!!!
Everything is interesting! I want to do it all! Now!
Which is to say, thanks, you're awesome.
Also how did you get all those cool light orbs and things in this video? It's awesome and I'd love to do something similar? What Lens does that?
I look forward to your vlog every week, you are so intelligent and insightful. . . But honestly why are all your friends so good looking?
Wow, that was awesome informative.
so this is like the "within a minute, the making of star wars episode iii documentary, but scaled down?
Not your ordinary clog this is awesome haha
Thanks so much for the video. It was very informative :-)
Cheers from Bangalore India
Your videos haven't been showing up in my sub box since the "not a proper video" ...video. Time to catch up!
And what exactly do you do on the set? Record the behind the scenes for the DVD extras?
UMP uses RSVP pens. I approve.
haha so true about craft services
How do you get the slow zoom in? Is someone behind the camera doing or do you do it while editing?
NO!
WHY DID YOU SHOW CUPCAKES!?
Now I have to go eat :c
We got Colby Jack.
How do you know what I want to learn about?
Was there an actual short or was it just a trailer?
4 AM Saturday night? I think that's called Sunday morning. . .
So basically, Fuck the grip.. I can see why from 6:25 frame....
Always wondered wtf a gaffer was. I thought it was the guy who came up with jokes or something.
Y U NO DO THESE DAILY?
Noah's short was amazing.
The director is really cute BTW
is the director ur brother? u look alike.
He couldn't see his watch at all XD
colour temperature fail.
This is awesome, but I'm more of a guerrilla filmmaker.
How do independent films make money
Competing in film festivals, getting theater screenings, a good marketing push, momentum going into or following award season getting you extra screenings and marketing. Although most still don't make much money, if anything at all.
they don't lol
man dont speak so fast..! ;)