whats going on Legend Riders? finally my new list of the Top 10 Best Super Light Trail E Bikes for 2024, If your favourite electric mountain bike is not here. Let me know which one it is.
So many to choose from , not a bad one among them , it comes down to preference I guess and mine is the Levo sl , great guide for someone who is looking 👍
It would be necessary to mention that these declared weights belong to the top-of-the-line models without pedals, typically priced in the five-figure range, while entry-level models can weight up to 2 kilograms that claimed.
Yes, you have a lot of killer SL e-bikes. After riding some SL e-bikes, I would question the claimed power (newton meter) ratings of some motors. Looking forward to your future testing of them all.
I do love my Trance X Elite 3. The top-of-the-line Elite is 18.8Kg (I'm guessing without pedals, but not sure). My El-3 with pedals, OneUp bars, lighter saddle is 20.7 Kg. Buy 2 and have change left over! It's a crazy value!
I have the M10 2021 Rise , do you find the rear end a bit wobbly? Hard to explain but at speed on fast descents it feels loose , I’ve had it checked out they couldn’t find anything wrong, I’ve had the fork and shock serviced at Fox . Is the Orbea Rise not designed for fast rough descents due to the Suspension travel ?
I'm looking at the focus Jam²sl but not a whole lot of ride review videos yet. Build kits look good value and being able to rernove the battery puts it well below the 20kg limit of my roof rack bike carrier. You gonna get one in at any point?
Orbea rise, you can full power it to 85nm 600wh like the normal ep801 from Shimano easy with an app. Than it's the lightest full power E-Bike on the market ❤
Another great video. Excellent list. Would love to see a video with your thoughts and with some tests highlighting the tradeoffs between lighter weight/low power bikes vs. the higher power/heavier bikes.
I have a full fat Merida (which is excellent) but swapped to a Trek EXe 9.5 spent 2k AUD on the front end and I’m pretty sure it’s the perfect bike. Much prefer the natural ride feel, weight and Trek after sales service has been very good. I rarely ride it at full Power I prefer eco and the more subtle power delivery. That’s me tho!
I have a Trek EXe 9.5 rebuilt . Lyrik Ultimate 160 - rear shock Rock Shox Super de Lux RC2T Ultimate 205x65 , Carbon wheels , Sram Code Stealth brake , Sram HS 220/ HS 200 disc 19kg and with extender 20,150kg , Is a very playful bike and you can ride quite a good enduro line with it . With Extender I can ride 1700 hm .
@@SamsBikes Have you ridden 155mm cranks before ? I have now done 4800km with them , if you are used to riding a high pedal frequency definitely recommended .
@SamsBikes you've been talking about it for 6 months lol. Giant, send Sam one now!!! I think after that vid I searched for every detail on the elite - there wasn't much out there. I wanted the elite 2 (better value to me) but they only brought in the elite 1 here. Full power but under 20kg made me take the plunge in the end. We don't get many bike brands offerings here in Cape Town but there's some great riding, and it is a great bike.
@SamsBikes springtime now is pretty good. Most of the year is alright but we can get a bit washed out from time to time in June/ July/ August, and this year September too. Never put the bike away for longer than a week or two though - always find a gap. Lots of the riding here in the Helderberg/Stellenbosch and surrounds is on wine farms. Bonus! Some great trails
I've been trying to demo any of the TQ equipped bikes for a couple of months now, they seem to fit my scenario if helping my knees a little on the climbs. I am a bit disappointed on how much drag my Bosch has above 25kph and how sluggish it feels on trails.
Just imagine how much lighter it could be without the motor and battery, and with an added bonus the additional fitness will cause you to lose weight, which is better for any bike you buy.
@@SamsBikes Im trying to decide between the levo regular and levo sl. I rode a regular and it was so powerful. The full power mode was almost to powerful. I have muscular dystrophy and my legs get tired pretty fast. I like the lighter sl but worried the motor wont be as powerful as I need but I like how its much lighter.
I'm so jealous of you guys that live over there in the UK. You have so many sl ebikes to pick from! Also you have places you can go and test ride them and see alot of them. It's far and few between that a bike shop even has 1 or 2 e bikes in their shop.
I ride an Orbea Rise M10 and a Mondraker Levl R. I am looking to replace my Orbea Rise. I am looking or a more stealth design, as the e-bike haters in Colorado are still active. The E-Bike haters must be defeated by keeping them blind as possible, at least for a year or two before they get hip to these mew designs. I am looking at the Mondraker Neat. It looks as if it has some of the attributes of the Crafty and the Level (my top choice full power e-bikes). The other bike that I am considering is the Santa Cruz Heckler SL. I really prefer the extra power of the Fazua Ride60 motor over the TQ. Also, I have a local dealer that will be carrying them. I would love to see a test of the Mondraker Neat! Perhaps I could be persuaded that direction.
Hey Paul thanks for the comment! I’m really not sure what to say I haven’t spent enough time on either the systems to tell you! Im loving the Levo SL it’s rad but keen try all the systems
That's disappointing to hear the Orbea isn't tame enough for those that are against eBikes in Colorado. Is this on trails that are "no eBikes"? Or do the Trails allow it? And people still giving you crap? The Rise is otherwise starting to look ideal to me, good range with low power. I still have to work for it, but the bike should take the edge off.
Or you get cancer at 47 and after 5 months of treatment, you feel like an 80+ year old because all your joints hurt and your stamina is 0. But you just want to get out on your bike and be in nature again. Please don't judge people riding ebikes, because you never know their WHY.
Lightweight ebikes equals small battery,400 WH BATTERY ,NO GOOD FOR ME RANGE POOR ,,THESE THINGS DRAIN YA BATT WHEN POWERING UP CLIMBS , ALSO UNDERPOWERED MOTORS..50 NM TORQUE,MY DOG CAN PULL MORE THAN THAT 😮😂
Menudo atrasados estáis; queréis meternos todo el recambio obsoleto que tenéis fabricado. El futuro son las bicicletas sin desviadores. Tomar nota de Pinion.
Ebikes are insanely overpriced, under development, lack technical innovation, and being limited to 19/20 mph blows ass. Unfortunately doing mods to increase speeds to realistic peddling speeds voids all warranties. BS. For the same price and much less then e-bikes you can purchase a superiorly advance full on electric dirt bike. Just goes to show the margin and technology gap.
These bikes are not for full powered riders but for those Hybrid riders who don't know what ebiking is all about and prefer analogue. Seems to be a manufacturers money grab. I had a analogue rider stay a few days never ridden an ebike and after a few 1000m meter climbs he then said I'm sold on these full powered ebikes. :)
How’s that a money grab? Some people actually want a lighter, mid power bike (like I do) and manufacturers are making them to sell to those people… that’s supply and demand isn’t it? They’ll never be as popular as full power but the demand is there, otherwise they wouldn’t be making them.
Agreed 👍 I see it as I said, we have Hardtails, XC, back country, Trail, enduro, DH, ebikes and now SL ebikes. Many categories for many different riders
whats going on Legend Riders? finally my new list of the Top 10 Best Super Light Trail E Bikes for 2024, If your favourite electric mountain bike is not here. Let me know which one it is.
Sorry, me again... 🙃😉The NOX Epium 5.9 All Mtn FAZUA RIDE 60 + 420 Wh + 160/150 mm / 29“ wheels @ approx 18,5 Kg (size M), starting @ 8600€....
The Rotwild RX 375 is wonderful, the best I have ever ridden, I love this bike....in every way❤🚴
So many to choose from , not a bad one among them , it comes down to preference I guess and mine is the Levo sl , great guide for someone who is looking 👍
Thanks legend! Totally very hard to pick just 10 these days
It would be necessary to mention that these declared weights belong to the top-of-the-line models without pedals, typically priced in the five-figure range, while entry-level models can weight up to 2 kilograms that claimed.
I agree!
For example, the Scott Lumen SL 900 (15,5kg) costs around 15.000 euros, not 6.000 as told in this vidéo….😢
Also Battery is about half size
Love the Levo SL G2, I think they have nailed the do everything super well, super great line up of SL’s for 2024
Both Amazing bikes!
Yes, you have a lot of killer SL e-bikes. After riding some SL e-bikes, I would question the claimed power (newton meter) ratings of some motors. Looking forward to your future testing of them all.
Thanks bro I’m very keen to test all the motors!
I do love my Trance X Elite 3. The top-of-the-line Elite is 18.8Kg (I'm guessing without pedals, but not sure). My El-3 with pedals, OneUp bars, lighter saddle is 20.7 Kg. Buy 2 and have change left over! It's a crazy value!
Nice one mate! I’m still waiting for mine! It looks so good
I just got a Rise LTD and love it, especially after the bike shop gave it more boost (on all 3 modes)
Oh very cool glad your loving itn
I have the M10 2021 Rise , do you find the rear end a bit wobbly? Hard to explain but at speed on fast descents it feels loose , I’ve had it checked out they couldn’t find anything wrong, I’ve had the fork and shock serviced at Fox . Is the Orbea Rise not designed for fast rough descents due to the Suspension travel ?
Can you do that yourself on the App ? I would like more boost on my 2021 Rise M10 😂😊
@@pcarts232 Cascade Components have a great fix for that and you can pre-order now.
I'm looking at the focus Jam²sl but not a whole lot of ride review videos yet. Build kits look good value and being able to rernove the battery puts it well below the 20kg limit of my roof rack bike carrier. You gonna get one in at any point?
I bought a Trek Fuel Exe xt 9.8. Rides really well. Planning on converting to a mullet.
Hi, what about Cube one 55? Is it competitive with your list?
Love my 22' Rise H20! I don't feel like I need more than 60nm, at least currently.
Some of those you listed are visually full stealth!
Yep I feel the 50-60nm is the sweet spot on the SL!
'22 vs 22' 22' = 22 feet.
Orbea rise, you can full power it to 85nm 600wh like the normal ep801 from Shimano easy with an app.
Than it's the lightest full power E-Bike on the market ❤
@@firstbloood1
Which app do you use?
With emaxmobile you can upgrade it.
Nice peek. Focus Jam2 SL 2023 imho still one of the best choices for 24. 160/150, ride 60, playful, capable climber and descender. Value for money…👍
True that I did a have a quick spin on one wasn’t much of a fan, not very stiff and made some creaks
@@SamsBikes Agree - not the stiffest. You can get rid of the creaks by disassembling the rear and lubricating everything.
Yep good call still keen to try a test on one!
Have an order in for a Fuel Exe. First e-bike, can’t wait 😊
Loved this one Sam , thanks.
Thanks Deano have a great weekend. Legend
Another great video. Excellent list. Would love to see a video with your thoughts and with some tests highlighting the tradeoffs between lighter weight/low power bikes vs. the higher power/heavier bikes.
Great idea champ in doubt that next week
I'll stay with Giant, Specialized and SCruz brands because they are locally available in my area.
touch and feel is what i like before i buy
Sam, love the channel! 1 bike to check out would be the transition relay. The bike I'm waiting for is the kenevo with 1.2 motor.
I looked at these. Flipping expensive… got a Trek EXe in the end for half the cost and similar spec
Oh mate check next weeks enduro bikes!
I have a full fat Merida (which is excellent) but swapped to a Trek EXe 9.5 spent 2k AUD on the front end and I’m pretty sure it’s the perfect bike. Much prefer the natural ride feel, weight and Trek after sales service has been very good. I rarely ride it at full
Power I prefer eco and the more subtle power delivery. That’s me tho!
I totally hear y lo u bro I’m normally a full powered ebiker but I feel when I’m riding on my own I’m graphing the Levo SL 100% of the time
Thank you for your video! What about the Willier Urta Hybrid? It is my favourite.
Which Rise ??? Many to choose from ?
Neat
Yep it’s a Neat bike
Thanks for the video, can someone help what to choose between levo sl or shuttle sl
Both! Haha 😂 really not sure the Levo SL is amazing haven’t ridden the Shuttle
Thank you. I am short, so I elected the new Levo in S1 (extra small) - To my knowledge, no other manufacturer has an X-small?
Hey Rider congrats on the new Levo I'm pretty sure Specialized are the only ones making 6 sizes.
Where is the Forestal Cyon in this list, or the Syrion in your other list? You were so enthusiastic about Forestal before. Has that changed?
I have a Trek EXe 9.5 rebuilt . Lyrik Ultimate 160 - rear shock Rock Shox Super de Lux RC2T Ultimate 205x65 , Carbon wheels , Sram Code Stealth brake , Sram HS 220/ HS 200 disc 19kg and with extender 20,150kg , Is a very playful bike and you can ride quite a good enduro line with it . With Extender I can ride 1700 hm .
sounds like a sweet bike mate and thats great range
@@SamsBikes Have you ridden 155mm cranks before ? I have now done 4800km with them , if you are used to riding a high pedal frequency definitely recommended .
Love Sam’s reviews, great place to get a head start on which bike you’ll buy. It was a big part of my decision to buy my Levo.
Thanks champ
Fuel Exe is a beauty, but im more into enduro. Trek needs to make Slash with tq motor and im sold.
How do you not have the transition relay on here? It's one of, if not the best one?
Haha 😂 mate check next weeks enduro Super Light video
@@SamsBikes Sweet, as always enjoy your content!
Why do these bikes have disk rear brakes? Why not use repetitive braking to make the most of the battery?
Looking forward to your review of the trance e+ elite. Loving mine. Still waiting for the range extender in South Africa though.
Mate me too I can’t wait!
@SamsBikes you've been talking about it for 6 months lol. Giant, send Sam one now!!! I think after that vid I searched for every detail on the elite - there wasn't much out there. I wanted the elite 2 (better value to me) but they only brought in the elite 1 here. Full power but under 20kg made me take the plunge in the end. We don't get many bike brands offerings here in Cape Town but there's some great riding, and it is a great bike.
Mate I’m so excited! What’s the best time to ride in Cape Town love to come down for some riding
@SamsBikes springtime now is pretty good. Most of the year is alright but we can get a bit washed out from time to time in June/ July/ August, and this year September too. Never put the bike away for longer than a week or two though - always find a gap. Lots of the riding here in the Helderberg/Stellenbosch and surrounds is on wine farms. Bonus! Some great trails
Is missing the new Fantic Rampage 1.4 DC with TQ motor, claimed to be the lightest for 15,5kg
The best quality for price, with motor bosh is? around 6000€ max pls.
The Orbea Rise ❤
I've been trying to demo any of the TQ equipped bikes for a couple of months now, they seem to fit my scenario if helping my knees a little on the climbs. I am a bit disappointed on how much drag my Bosch has above 25kph and how sluggish it feels on trails.
Yep I’m still trying to test the TQ and Ride 60 but it will happen!
@@SamsBikes I obv forgot about Fazua R60, it's sweet. But that thing is equally painful to track down, like an effin big foot.
10 are almost all. And you forgot the Conway Ryvon, a very potent Enduro.
Your videos are awesome. Just way too many hand movements emphasised for me
Yep 👍 I’ll try and get rid of them , it really is so much harder than it looks to film videos
Orbea rise
La orbea rise con motor shimano ep8 sale con 60 nm pero tiene 85...la mia si😊
Just imagine how much lighter it could be without the motor and battery, and with an added bonus the additional fitness will cause you to lose weight, which is better for any bike you buy.
Hahaha 🤣 I think your on the wrong channel mate
No, you are in the wrong sport. If you need the motor stick to golf.@@SamsBikes
Is their really that big of power differences between the 60 tq motors and 85?
Yea it’s pretty big!
@@SamsBikes Im trying to decide between the levo regular and levo sl. I rode a regular and it was so powerful. The full power mode was almost to powerful. I have muscular dystrophy and my legs get tired pretty fast. I like the lighter sl but worried the motor wont be as powerful as I need but I like how its much lighter.
I'm so jealous of you guys that live over there in the UK. You have so many sl ebikes to pick from! Also you have places you can go and test ride them and see alot of them. It's far and few between that a bike shop even has 1 or 2 e bikes in their shop.
Updated Kenevo SL 🎉
👌🏾
How about the Haibike Lyke, Rotwild rx 275 and Focus Jam SL!?😊
Edit: The Rotwild RG 375 is 180mm Front and Rear!
What you ment was the RE 375😉
All good picks mate, yes I get confused with the rotwild bikes all amazing but all very similar names
@@SamsBikes Thats true🙈
I have a Haibike Lyke CF11. Great value for money. Removable accu, superlight, nice design und very good geometry.
How about the new Thömus LIGHTRIDER E2 PRO
Did you ever get chance to ride a Unno Mith? I bought one and if you were more local and i did not have a small frame I would lend you mine.
Thanks bro I have never ridden the Unno looks like a very interesting bike 🚴 where are you based ?
@@SamsBikes I’m in Aberdeen Scotland. It is an interesting bike for sure and appreciate you bringing it to my attention a while back.
Oh nice 👍 Scotland 🏴 I could definitely have a trip back there! I’m glad I helped you get the Unno they do make sweet bikes
You forgot two of the probably best bikes that are gonna be coming out. Conway ryvon lt and the norco fluid vlt
Oh your right on the Norco but also you can’t buy it yet and the Conway is coming next week for the enduro e-bikes
Trek fuel exe❤
wait ‘til next year , u’ll get the ‘25 bikes !
Cube Am hybrid 144?
I ride an Orbea Rise M10 and a Mondraker Levl R. I am looking to replace my Orbea Rise. I am looking or a more stealth design, as the e-bike haters in Colorado are still active. The E-Bike haters must be defeated by keeping them blind as possible, at least for a year or two before they get hip to these mew designs. I am looking at the Mondraker Neat. It looks as if it has some of the attributes of the Crafty and the Level (my top choice full power e-bikes). The other bike that I am considering is the Santa Cruz Heckler SL. I really prefer the extra power of the Fazua Ride60 motor over the TQ. Also, I have a local dealer that will be carrying them. I would love to see a test of the Mondraker Neat! Perhaps I could be persuaded that direction.
Hey Paul thanks for the comment! I’m really not sure what to say I haven’t spent enough time on either the systems to tell you! Im loving the Levo SL it’s rad but keen try all the systems
That's disappointing to hear the Orbea isn't tame enough for those that are against eBikes in Colorado. Is this on trails that are "no eBikes"? Or do the Trails allow it? And people still giving you crap? The Rise is otherwise starting to look ideal to me, good range with low power. I still have to work for it, but the bike should take the edge off.
Whats the cheapest ebike with a boch motor?
Radon render
Transition Relay?
Next week Rider it’s an Enduro SL!
you show the top bikes, but the price refers to basic models... the sworks costs €15,000
Na I show the best models and the prices from
Lapierre in first and Spe
Yamaha Moro Pro and Moro 7
Super light but super heavy in my pocket😢
Hi Sam, where is the transition relay?
Check the best Enduro SL video
Insane. Light-electric, is only for the rich, as is most TH-cam bike reviews. Only for the rich.
missing Ghost Path Riot ...
Moots Express ?
Shame they'll all cost more than some cars. Please don't buy 🙏. But hopefully the weight will come down for all ebikes
When you start talking about Santa Cruz pricing just say “oh don’t bother, for dentist only” and move on. No need for details, overpriced cervelo mtb
Hahaha 🤣
Bought 24 heckler sl xo version $8700. Big discounts out there
Must be a lot of 80+ year old riders out there. Still pedaling at 67.. might have an interest at age 80
Or you get cancer at 47 and after 5 months of treatment, you feel like an 80+ year old because all your joints hurt and your stamina is 0. But you just want to get out on your bike and be in nature again. Please don't judge people riding ebikes, because you never know their WHY.
Lightweight ebikes equals small battery,400 WH BATTERY ,NO GOOD FOR ME RANGE POOR ,,THESE THINGS DRAIN YA BATT WHEN POWERING UP CLIMBS , ALSO UNDERPOWERED MOTORS..50 NM TORQUE,MY DOG CAN PULL MORE THAN THAT 😮😂
Menudo atrasados estáis; queréis meternos todo el recambio obsoleto que tenéis fabricado.
El futuro son las bicicletas sin desviadores.
Tomar nota de Pinion.
Ebikes are insanely overpriced, under development, lack technical innovation, and being limited to 19/20 mph blows ass. Unfortunately doing mods to increase speeds to realistic peddling speeds voids all warranties. BS. For the same price and much less then e-bikes you can purchase a superiorly advance full on electric dirt bike. Just goes to show the margin and technology gap.
so funny, I've been riding bikes for 63 of my 67 years and have never seen things advance so quickly. You will be riding one one day..
MONDRAKER :D
Really I’m not sure
It is 150 UPS my bad -but it is under the enduro category @@SamsBikes
I HATE E-bikes😤😡
These bikes are not for full powered riders but for those Hybrid riders who don't know what ebiking is all about and prefer analogue. Seems to be a manufacturers money grab. I had a analogue rider stay a few days never ridden an ebike and after a few 1000m meter climbs he then said I'm sold on these full powered ebikes. :)
We have mountain bikes, super light e-bikes and and full powered e-bikes all amazing but different
How’s that a money grab? Some people actually want a lighter, mid power bike (like I do) and manufacturers are making them to sell to those people… that’s supply and demand isn’t it? They’ll never be as popular as full power but the demand is there, otherwise they wouldn’t be making them.
Agreed 👍 I see it as I said, we have Hardtails, XC, back country, Trail, enduro, DH, ebikes and now SL ebikes. Many categories for many different riders
Old people getting into bikes lol
Haters are going to hate
You will be an old guy one day. Will you want one of these or sit on the couch watching the younger guys in TH-cam?