@@rampageclover9788 most of the heel/babyface work is done via the mic or story though i think thats the reason he doesnt get it. He's too focused on the wrestling aspect
The last true heel in wrestling was jinder mahal he had legit heat and hatred from the fans. Roman reigns was a babyface playing a heel but was not exactly a heel since he was cheered by the fans and now even mjf is a babyface based on the pop he got in his return. Its simple a heel is supposed to be hated and a face is to be liked this is something dave needs to understand.
Lmao Dave every champion fights baby faces and heels and wrestles accordingly everyone from funk to flair lol Dave I've never seen Cody or hulk Hogan poking eyes and taking short cuts gtfoh cherry picking few guys and pretending it's normal
Dave claiming Tony booked a 7 minute match between the champion and a newbie due to "not wanting criticism" is crazy to suggest. Tony still puts that geeky, nerdy Orange Cassidy in the ring every week to do his "hands in pockets" comedy routine. Tony must love criticism, everything he does leads to it and he never changes. He must write every Dynamite 30 minutes before airtime on the back of a napkin
Champions fight npboth heels and faces from funk to flair they act depending on situation every champion does no Dave you just cherry picked couple of guys who's character always had a edge so with flair his character always had grey good eye poke was always in his character it dosnt mean all champions do it I've never seen hulk Hogan in early WWE poking eyes n taking short cuts, this guy pedals bollox but I'm sure he sucks them first😂
Meltzer's blind devotion to AEW has already killed his friendship with Jim Cornette and now it looks like it's destroying the one with Alvarez (much to my surprise, thought he loved AEW too).
I think that the Alvarez actually loves AEW in the most healthy way, in that he'll praise the things he enjoys, but also criticizes things that need to be changed/improved. He's a fan, whereas Meltzer is a sycophant.
Alvarez, for the first time in his life, is 100% correct. Look at Mark Henry and Big Show for example. Both has lackluster careers due to to many quick turns from face to heel. Nobody learns from stuff like this. If they want to turn someone, it needs to be a drawn out process and they need to remain heel or face for a good chunk of time. Otherwise you confuse the audience.
I wouldn't say it confuses the audience as much as it makes them apathetic about the wrestler. A heel turn for a beloved baby face is supposed to break a fans heart. When the super cool heel learns from his of her mistakes and embraces the baby face role the crowd explodes with joy. When you don't give the gimmick enough time to do either, the crowd doesn't give two shits
Dave thinks long matches that don’t mean anything draw money while Bryan is smart enough to realise you need good characters and storylines to get people to watch the matches
If someone sent me a clip saying 'this is the greatest pro wrestling match of all time' I don't know if I'll watch it If someone sent me 'this is the greatest wrestling feud of all time' I'm absolutely clicking whatever the link says
OMG 5 stars for this entertaining FOOLERY from dave. This gets a holy shit pop moment!!!!!!!! This is by far one of the funniest interviews in wrestling history What an absolute bafoon!!!!!!! I hope Vince is getting these sound bites for his next podcast. SHE’S NOT A HEEL!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
Especially the ones which predicted AEW's problems from the very start which were later proven true. (Have the date of the original ctm show displayed, then show the thing come to fruition in recent times, with the date.)
A lot of these people need to be pushed out of wrestling. A real world champion wrestles babyfaces and heels? I remember Flair only wrestling faces and other than Warrior Hogan wrestling heels. Bruno other than Pedro Morales only wrestled heels. Please correct me if im wrong.
Gahahahahahaha oh man... "THEY JUST HAD A MATCH LAST WEEK!!" GAHAHAHAHA Was so weird seeing the crowd cheer Toni Storm and boo Deeb. Alvarez is correct in his assessment there. Dave Meltzer turns himself in knots!!! What a psycho!!! Gahahaha
Dave is personally invested in aew. He's always wanted as much access as he has in aew with Tony khan. He'll He's probably even helping Tony book book.
They didn't "switch" it. Toni was literally having a feud with Serena as a heel and a feud with the Outcasts as a face AT THE SAME TIME. That's atrocious booking. A tweener in wrestling is not someone who switches alignmenrs on a week to week basis.
Meltzer defends AEW as if his reputation is on the line if people don't like it. I wonder how much input Meltzer has on the booking? He takes it way too personally, not to be involved.
Has the Wrestling Observer lost views and subs doing their usual schitck?? I think that this is a work, Alvarez and Meltzer have realized that views increase when they argue
It's so sad how far Uncle Dave has fallen in the last five years. He was once highly respected, but now he is a joke. I watch at least ten different podcasts by various wrestling personalities, and all of them are doing segments making fun of Uncle Dave. Uncle Dave has provided a lot of content and made people a lot of money, lol.
subscribed to the brand last week, hours of content, castrating the marks is hilarious
This is more entertaining then AEW
Alvarez vs Meltzer is the match we all want to see
Alvarez vs Meltzer Deathmatch
I quit match between these two WILL increase ppv buy rates
8 stars in the Tokyo Dome.
Kiss butt
“Theyyyy just haaaad a maaaatch lasssst weeeeeek!!!”
Im dying 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 I was weak
She is a heel. She's Not A Heel! Yeet! No Yeet!
Absolute comedy gold, how anyone takes Meltzer serious ill never understand
ONLY people with IQ below 70 would believe in Dave
Dave Meltzer has officially lost his ever-loving mind!
Strong-style has recked his mind
Too much dangerous spots
He turns himself in knots
Even alvarez thinks meltzer has lost his mind
Dude's too obsessed with in ring stuff, he forgets characters/storylines exist 🤡
Yup. His memory's full of match dates and wins v losses.
When it comes to what makes the show watchable he doesn't have a clue.
Homie suffered too many concussions from those chair shots to the face
How does someone who claims to be a wrestling expert not understand basic heel and babyface psychology
Because he’s never been in the ring…..
@@rampageclover9788 most of the heel/babyface work is done via the mic or story though i think thats the reason he doesnt get it. He's too focused on the wrestling aspect
The last true heel in wrestling was jinder mahal he had legit heat and hatred from the fans. Roman reigns was a babyface playing a heel but was not exactly a heel since he was cheered by the fans and now even mjf is a babyface based on the pop he got in his return. Its simple a heel is supposed to be hated and a face is to be liked this is something dave needs to understand.
It's all about the high spot moves, and the memorizing of wins and losses for unc Dave.
@courtneybawcombe1904 Vince Russo never understood wrestling psychology. Overbooked matches & storylines.
Maybe Alvarez is ready to go off on his own so he doesn't mind making Uncle Dave angry.
Dave Meltzer looks like he's going through the world's slowest werewolf transformation. After 35 years his progress bar is still only at 12%.
the way he holds the microphone haha
Like he thinks he’s commentating for tennis or something 😆
He's a closeted gay man for sure
He calls his mic Will ...don't know why?
Looks like he's doing karaoke in the 80s 😂
“She’s not a heel”-Uncle Dave
Meltzer in a NWO shirt while saying his crazy stuff is hilarious & The NWO should be embarrassed 😂
Lmao Dave every champion fights baby faces and heels and wrestles accordingly everyone from funk to flair lol Dave I've never seen Cody or hulk Hogan poking eyes and taking short cuts gtfoh cherry picking few guys and pretending it's normal
@@Teddy42O Nosey World Order
She had a great heel pop that's wat dave is trying to say 😂
Its like AEW is formatted like Mortal Kombat
Most entertaining video you've ever uploaded and I check daily😂😂
Dave claiming Tony booked a 7 minute match between the champion and a newbie due to "not wanting criticism" is crazy to suggest. Tony still puts that geeky, nerdy Orange Cassidy in the ring every week to do his "hands in pockets" comedy routine. Tony must love criticism, everything he does leads to it and he never changes. He must write every Dynamite 30 minutes before airtime on the back of a napkin
Champions fight npboth heels and faces from funk to flair they act depending on situation every champion does no Dave you just cherry picked couple of guys who's character always had a edge so with flair his character always had grey good eye poke was always in his character it dosnt mean all champions do it I've never seen hulk Hogan in early WWE poking eyes n taking short cuts, this guy pedals bollox but I'm sure he sucks them first😂
Meltzer's blind devotion to AEW has already killed his friendship with Jim Cornette and now it looks like it's destroying the one with Alvarez (much to my surprise, thought he loved AEW too).
i think meltzer is workng for aew and alvarez knows it and wanted no part of it
I think that the Alvarez actually loves AEW in the most healthy way, in that he'll praise the things he enjoys, but also criticizes things that need to be changed/improved. He's a fan, whereas Meltzer is a sycophant.
WrestleMania XLI The Personalities Explode
Meltzer vs Alvarez
Bischoff vs Khan
Cornette vs Russo
Bret Hart vs Goldberg..... The rematch!
Alvarez is scolding a child. He then realizes he is actually an adult and is trying his best not to laugh in Dave's face. 😂
Mickey Meltzer.
I can’t believe this man had a wife at one point.
It was probably a work
Someone needs to find a pic.
😂
Denise’s “yeets” pop me every time 😂
I haven't been this entertained in awhile.
Daves shriek of doom broke the mic, and Chicos heart.
while watching this take into mind dave meltzer is 64 years old 64!!!!!🤣
Meltzer and Alvarez having lover’s tiffs over AEW is elite content. Alvarez almost sounds sensible, Dave his usual deluded self
This debate really should be left on the playground but I'm glad it wasn't.
"match match match match match". That's all Dave cares about. Nothing else can get you over, except matches.
Dave: I uhm uhm uhm you know uhm uhm uhm know what a heel is.
Thank you Bryan your finally 🙏 getting it with common sense. Dave has lost his mind
‘SHE’S NOT A HEEEL!!!’ 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Alvarez, for the first time in his life, is 100% correct. Look at Mark Henry and Big Show for example. Both has lackluster careers due to to many quick turns from face to heel. Nobody learns from stuff like this. If they want to turn someone, it needs to be a drawn out process and they need to remain heel or face for a good chunk of time. Otherwise you confuse the audience.
I wouldn't say it confuses the audience as much as it makes them apathetic about the wrestler. A heel turn for a beloved baby face is supposed to break a fans heart. When the super cool heel learns from his of her mistakes and embraces the baby face role the crowd explodes with joy. When you don't give the gimmick enough time to do either, the crowd doesn't give two shits
This kind of content is GOLD for Vince and Jeff. BRAVO 🍾
Longer matches give you more opportunities to do more moves, impress Meltzer and get more stars which then gets you over due to the prestige.
Bryan is starting to get it
Dave thinks long matches that don’t mean anything draw money while Bryan is smart enough to realise you need good characters and storylines to get people to watch the matches
If someone sent me a clip saying 'this is the greatest pro wrestling match of all time' I don't know if I'll watch it
If someone sent me 'this is the greatest wrestling feud of all time' I'm absolutely clicking whatever the link says
All-time classic !
Make me think of when they scream...DAVE!!!! In the David Lee Roth video...Just A Gigolo....He needs to just stop please...DAVE!!!!😮😮
Brian has turned Babyface.
Enjoyed this clip from last week was funny ASF when I first watched it
Alvarez is finally over with me, brother.
Maybe somebody did whack him with a frying pan and when he woke up he went "..... dub bad?"
The more cynical read is that Alvarez is smart enough to see that the attendance and ratings are indicating he needs to abandon the band wagon
Dave Meltzer is on Pluto, like hes gone. Kenny fucking omega is literally telling you that even his own companies matches are all not that good.
They give her 20 minutes to expose herself, that's how they get her over.
I don’t think Dave and Bryan would speak to each other if they weren’t business partners they are always bickering
Alveraz and that sneaky grin was like ‘you dam right it was me Dave’ 😆
OMG 5 stars for this entertaining FOOLERY from dave. This gets a holy shit pop moment!!!!!!!! This is by far one of the funniest interviews in wrestling history What an absolute bafoon!!!!!!! I hope Vince is getting these sound bites for his next podcast. SHE’S NOT A HEEL!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
“eye eye eye eye eye eye eye”
That was tremendous
All Dave cares about is the fake work rate and having a 17 star match where ppl break their necks lol.😂
What about the rope work?
Ha.
I would love to hear Al review that clip, lmfao
10:35 The fact that Dave thinks a 2 minute Bronson Vs. Gable match that ended in a No Contest somehow wins the argument
The Dave stuttering part is the best fucking thing I’ve seen in a long time.
SHE'S NOT A HEEL 😠
Meltzer's defo dying his hair.
I mean, who cares about that?
@@analiysanchez9949 I guess Meltzer cares. Seeing as he's the one dying it.
In mouse voice, " they showed a match last week" Dave " the squeak" Meltzer.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yall should start posting old episodes of ctm on TH-cam
Especially the ones which predicted AEW's problems from the very start which were later proven true.
(Have the date of the original ctm show displayed, then show the thing come to fruition in recent times, with the date.)
Yes please!
Huge pop for Vince's "yeet" from Hollywood 😂
whats going be biggest face turn of 2024 alvarez or roman reigns?🤣
not a russo fan, but he had exactly the same reaction as i did. Uncle dave bursting veins over this
Whats crazy is that Nash actually did a reaction to this segment 🤣
11:28 bro inhaled baloon
Helium balloon for sure😂😂
WWE does this CAAAANSTANTLY😭😂😭😂
Bryan is right and as usual Dorky Dave is wrong 0 for the century 😂
I think Alvarez wrapped up his contract and parted ways with AEW, lol.
Thank you for the lulz holy sh*t 😅
At around 11:15 did Meltzer just realize he sat down on a thumb tack? 👍 or maybe stung by a bee?? To funny 😁
…’Last wEEEK!!!’ Ow my ears! 😬
Vince should review the argument about aew overruns please and thanks
I AM UNCLE HOWDY
Christ, does Dave ever open his eyes? 🤣
I love it! I love it!
A lot of these people need to be pushed out of wrestling. A real world champion wrestles babyfaces and heels? I remember Flair only wrestling faces and other than Warrior Hogan wrestling heels. Bruno other than Pedro Morales only wrestled heels. Please correct me if im wrong.
She's not a heel !!!! Vince jumps back LOL!!!!
I'm good on both of them to be honest lol. Meltzer is worse than Alvarez.
Much more of this and Meltzer's going to have a heart attack on air!
Gahahahahahaha oh man...
"THEY JUST HAD A MATCH LAST WEEK!!"
GAHAHAHAHA
Was so weird seeing the crowd cheer Toni Storm and boo Deeb. Alvarez is correct in his assessment there. Dave Meltzer turns himself in knots!!! What a psycho!!! Gahahaha
Alvarez is turning heel.
Good old Dave, the man who gets roasted by all three of Russo, Bischoff, and Cornette.
I have become a Alvarez fan
This is funny 😂
HUGE POP!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
We need the Bro counter back
Not a huge fan of Russo but when he mocks Dave about getting a facelift or having Botox looking like Michael Myers is hilarious
Bryan earned that belt by being the champion of shitting on Dave's secret booking.
Mektzer has a cool life but he's starting to lose it
Dave is personally invested in aew. He's always wanted as much access as he has in aew with Tony khan. He'll He's probably even helping Tony book book.
Did someone give alvarez smelling salt or smack him in the head? He's actually making sense but seeing them arguing is pure comedy 😅😅
This is so funny..lmao
Daves got the nWo hoodie lol.
What is going on here? Oh my God I have no idea who saying what but I laugh every time RUSSO DOES
They didn't "switch" it. Toni was literally having a feud with Serena as a heel and a feud with the Outcasts as a face AT THE SAME TIME. That's atrocious booking. A tweener in wrestling is not someone who switches alignmenrs on a week to week basis.
You heard Meltzer. "SHE'S NOT A HEEL!!!"
This was great haha
Is Dave getting Botox or plastic surgery?
Meltzer should be JAILED for wearing an NWO shirt
the married comment was goofy.
Staying married isnt a sign of anything.
most married women i have had affairs with are still married lol.
Good stuff lol
Meltzer defends AEW as if his reputation is on the line if people don't like it. I wonder how much input Meltzer has on the booking? He takes it way too personally, not to be involved.
I actually think Dave has early stages of dementia.
Has the Wrestling Observer lost views and subs doing their usual schitck?? I think that this is a work, Alvarez and Meltzer have realized that views increase when they argue
SHEEEES NOT A HEEEL!!
Don't even ever pause a video on Dave Meltzer's face. 🤦♂️
It's so sad how far Uncle Dave has fallen in the last five years. He was once highly respected, but now he is a joke. I watch at least ten different podcasts by various wrestling personalities, and all of them are doing segments making fun of Uncle Dave. Uncle Dave has provided a lot of content and made people a lot of money, lol.