@10,000 Subscribers With 0 Videos Challenge That's great. He's just hypothetically speaking about her not having arms. At the end of the video, he said that it could be complete bs. Lol.
Maybe she doesn’t have arms because she discovered combustion bending, rather than the opposite. For example, combustion man had a prosthetic arm and leg after being injured from combustion bending.
I'd like to have both, about the avatars we already know and other avatars. They say there are a thousand (although I don't know how, if it's been only 10,000 years of the cycle), so there's a lot to explore there.
Even if it is a drawing error or she does have arms, I think that the catalyst for combustion bending, being someone who wouldn’t be able to bend otherwise (having no arms) would make a lot of sense.
I don’t agree with her being royalty necessarily, because roku has the crown of the crown prince yet he isn’t royalty. Of course we know why but maybe a similar thing happened with her and we know a lot of fire nation citizens have things like that in their hair.
Roku's was a very rare and probably unique case. It was shown in Roku's reaction to him receiving it, that indicates this probably never happened before.
Mando Maul good thinking but we know avatar szeto was very close with royalty and high up there so chances are it could have happened with him to. His surprise could indicate that or it could just be rokubwas surprised because it is a royal artifact and belongs to that person and was a treasure the to nation and not cause its rare. Also we have seen just about every position of fire nation royalty and none of which wore that hair price which can lead us to belive that means nothing as for most fire nation citizens have some form of fire nation crown or emblem in their hair or have a fire nation like hat thing.
I think it was zuko's daughter who said that before the fire nation was unified and had royalty, it was just multiple warring clans so my guess is that there probably wasnt even a royal crown at that point.
Just realized something. The crown in her hair wasn’t a fire nation logo but was similar just without the inside parts of it. Maybe she was royalty among one of the tribes before the nation had a monarchy and that was her tribes or whatever symbol and a lesser developed fire nation logo/emblem. Typically fire nation citizens wear a fire nation emblem in their hair so it would make since for her to wear one of tribe.
itarfer that’s a good point because they did that with legend of Korra, they used our lack of knowledge about the first avatar to create a whole story line for a current avatar
You can see her arms in red puffy sleeves, you can even see her hand on the lower left Edit: Very cool video regardless. Always loved the idea of new forms of bending being developed out of necessity
@@Mommie2redheads if u look very carefully at 2:43 u can see the outline of her body, her sleeves and a part of 1 her hands. It either blends in with her clothing or her arms r behind her back
wouldnt it be so cool if we saw had a book on on every single avatar and each of their impact on the wrld and makin different connections kinda like in the kyoshi series how the befongs were introduced or if aang or korra talked to the avatars like the ones when korra got her bending back and a bunch of them are standing their like one of those random ones o love ur vids tho
@@enazbackwards5144 lol stop it's not. The color shades match. It gets darker as the avatars are lines up behind. If it was a firebender behind her, it would've been darker. You can also see her palm which can't be someone elses as from a perspective point - if a person is behind her, they would need to be directly behind and also smaller so you wouldn't even see them
Speaking of Avatars and Fire Nation royalty, there’s something really interesting that I’ve always wondered. Avatar Roku and Prince/Fire Lord Sozin were born on the exact same day of the exact same year. How might things have been different if Sozin had been the Avatar instead of Roku?
Sadly cause I like the theory, I think she does have arms. Down at her dress you see a little white triangle which I think is her hand. And she is holding the arms more behind her as you can see that she has these puffy sleeves till her elbow and the rest of the red sleeve next to the pink dress part
Nice theory Antoine, but I don't think that this female fire avatar had no arms. In the legend of korra book 2 book about the art of that season, it shows this specific avatar's statue at the southern air temple with arms.
So little to none earth bending Octopus water arms Fire coming from the legs and or mouth (Maybe combustion bending too) And air breakdancing That would be interesting
@@emmalinekitzmiller7169 Iroh invented the redirecting lighting move. He was known as dragon of the west because of his fire breath, but it was never implied he invented it.
I always thought that the sleeves draping off to the side were her arms. It just looked like she was armless due to her shoulder extensions of her out for being so long. If you look at Roku's outfit (and some of the other fire bending afters; aside from Szeto) , it kind of looks the same way too. That being said, the idea of an armless avatar is intriguing.
I've seen this theory before. I think her arms are just drawn weird. If you look closely, you can see them tucked into her sides. There's a little white speck to the left of her that could be her hand sticking out. Also, if you look closely, you'll notice that she's wearing some sort of belt. The edges of the belt don't reach all the way across. Instead it stops just short on both sides, meaning the areas where the belt is not present is actually her sleeves. In my Legend of Korra fan-fiction, I actually gave this Avatar a name. I called her Avatar Mei-Ling, and she was from the Fire Nation royal family. I also gave the combustion-benders an origin. In my story, the combustion-benders were part of a tribe called the Zatsu Tribe, who were a persecuted minority in the northern Fire Nation. They originated when fire benders from the northern Fire Nation intermingled with Air Nomads from the nearby Western Air Temple across the sea, leading to a new culture emerging. The two styles of bending mixing led to the emergence of unique firebending style known as combustion-bending. Because of their strange bending and different culture, the Zatsu Tribe was feared and persecuted throughout the Fire Nation's history, especially during the Hundred Year War due to them having some Air Nomad heritage.
What I would give to just sit in a room with y'all during quarantine and pass the time engaging in different topics and theories about the series. I've never met any of you nor heard of you,yet I feel as if we're all part of one big family. ATLA & ALOK is just magical,plain and simple.
Each Avatar seems to progress more within each era they live, I have a slight theory on the setting of the Avatar after Korra... Aang lived in an ancient time which is more reminiscent of the 1800’s in Asia when technology was new and was starting to become more militarized. Bending is more traditional and is based on the traditional way of martial arts. Korra basically lives in the 1920’s with a steampunk era where technology is an extension of bending. Also bending is far more fast paced and pro-boxer like. The next Avatar after her I picture living in a 1970’s hippie culture with technology being kind of the same, but more personalized. Bending I could be brung back to its spiritual origins and fluidity with a mix of psychic abilities.
deViianceTV I think the next avatar would live in the 50s because korra could die at 47 The reason for Korra’s early death would be -avatar state shortened game her lifespan -poison shortening lifespans -lack of Raava’s energy shortening her lifespans -energy and avatar state used during harmonic convergence shorting lifespan.
She has arms you can see the peak of her hand. It's a cool concept but this person this drawing has arms and hands. 2:44 on the close up you can clearly see her arms and hands.
@@stephylynnpatch its not like its a hand shape or anything. its more a thin line even when you see the zoomed up ones to her. I mean perhaps the dress is covering the arms up, i just think the theory sounds cool
It makes sense, Im happy that theres someone like you out there who answering all the avatar question that the fans and super fans and the crazy super fans are dying to know. Thank you very much for posting these videos. Your a smart creative youtuber.
Interesting. I always thought of combustion bending as some kind of mutation ability, where a firebender fires energy through the light chakra (i think that's the one on forehead), given that it's so different and independent from the main bending ability. Exploring this Avatar would be amazing though, how she learns bendings and copes up with her disability etc
Oof, while watching this video, I noticed they used two avatars twice in the lineup, an air nomad and the old bearded earth nation avatar. They use them to fill in the background (the 5th and 6th rows). Never noticed that before.
As a huge fan of this series, it’s great to have a dedicated TH-camr like you. I Just found your vids today and I’ve been watching them all day. Definitely subscribed 🙏🏾💯
@@emmanuellattab4881 Bro I would so love to see a a series based on this dude. There is just so much story potential to this World it pains me that they don't create more Avatar stories. I mean all we got was Korra which was fun but I really want to see more past lives animated into a TV show.
The 1st instance of Psychic bending was actually Zuko I believe in the episode Warriors of Kyoshi when he's controlling the flames on candles just by meditating. Then we have Katara by end of season 1 who bursts an ice vase simply by getting angry when Paku refuses to teach her. And then we have Bumi who can bend just with his mind or as he claims by his face
It's fun to see that even after all these years people are comming up with different theries/storylines/ etc. I'm a fan for looking for Avatar related theries, like trying to calculate how many Avaters there might have been (based & in combination of your video and info I found online), possible subbending teckniques, etc... Keep up the good work...I'm looking forward to your next video.
Here is the theory I came up with In ATLA season 3 Zuko hires the combustion bending assassin and we can see that he has missing limbs which is very likely for the reason why he lost 2 of his limbs. His toughness combined with luck could be the reason why he survived. In LoK we are introduced to a combustion bender named P’Li whose abilities were discovered at very young age without any fire bending training whatsoever which means that combustion bending is not an ability that can be learned and it is an ability discovered at a very young age. She was kidnapped and forced to become the greatest weapon ever by being trained by some of the best firebenders ever. Her not losing any limbs or dying and being a better combustion bender than combustion man suggests that there may be secrets of combustion bending only known to special people and some members of the royal family. The armless avatar may have hid her combustion bending secrets in the royal family and maybe passed on to a few people which could suggest why P’li never was harmed by her combustion bending as a child and in learning stages which is extremely rare furthermore hinting at the fact that this armless avatar was in the royal family which could suggest her outfit. losing her arms and surviving also meant that she could have mastered her combustion bending faster because other elements were a lot harder to progress without arms which could also be another reason why she survived because her learning the combustion being quicker (because the other bending types were harder to learn allowing her to put more time and focus into combustion bending) could’ve prevented another accident. We can also see that combustion bending requires extreme focus so those children survived their first explosion would’ve definitely died from later explosions caused by them breaking focus which is the reason why only people who are specially trained people like P’li, the armless avatar and maybe combustion man avoided future incidents. I don’t think she was the first person to discover combustion bending but rather she was the first known combustion bender and the only one who survived childhood and actually learned her ability due to her having no arms allowing for an opportunity to master and control her combustion bending (and the fact that she was specially trained because she was the avatar which helped her develop combustion bending even quicker). The idea that combusting bending is extremely uncommon because only very few are born with it (and the fact that it can’t be taught) and only the strongest ,toughest, most talented and best benders survive and learn it is pretty interesting in my opinion.
Heres my theory: The Fire lady Avatar is able to combustion bend and is the Fire Lord during her era. She understood chi more fervently than most, so she was able to discover the elemental extension. Similar to how Toph could understand how to bend metal. While also being highly enlightened towards other nations(possibly she's knowlegeable of multiple Jin, since she would be able to understand the world. In a diversified light and the complexity of her own). Which became a detriment(as it could lead to the known events with Sezto and Roku's era; what you stated). Due to her focus upon other nations, as she might've grown to a point of comfort with her nation. As it deteriorated while she was often away. Which led to family lines being severed(as royalty doesn't continue on through the exact same family's)and would lead to future generations; Combustion Man, becoming a spy/assassin during times of war and P'Li, being saved from being a war Lords weapon(both were manipulated, due to them having fractured pasts and disjointed beginnings).
Given how combustioners always fight the avatar in some capacity, I'm betting it wasn't pioneered by an avatar. We usually get bigger, corruptible concepts from avatars, right?
Think you could make a video on the messed up order of the avatars? Assuming the order to be what's stated in the opening, it should be Water, Earth, Fire, Air (of course Wan was a firebender so water wouldn't be the first in the cycle, but let's go with it as a circle technically has no beginning) The avatar before bearded earth guy (before Szeto, behind Kyoshi, think his name is maybe Salai) should've been water...but is fire. Before HIM should be Air which is correct (we're looking at the 'food friendly' air nomad) however before him should've been Fire, but is instead Earth? Perhaps some were stillborn, or murdered at birth? Never discovered they were the avatar, or refused the role? Perhaps Raava had reason to choose another nation than the next one in the cycle? I know it's likely an animation consistency error but it could be cool to theorise an in universe explanation.
Great Video! I once did a small discussion on her on Reddit (but more focused on self doubt because of her disability)...but it didn't fly because I was told she had arms....but it's still a wonderful topic with so many possibilities. Anyway, glad that you discussed her. It was very interesting. I love your exploration of the past Avatars.
Yo thats just clothing, if you focus on her hips you can see the clothing actually follows and her right hand actually shows. Its just fire nation clothing, kind of like when you put a t shirt over a sweater. *She had arms*
@@jtrecords4856 I'd consider it a different bending style. Benders use icebending similar to how an earthbender would earthbend. Also kinda how lavabenders state-change earth into lava, waterbenders do it too. Since water has a much lower melting and freezing temperature, most decent waterbenders state-change pretty easily.
2:45 if you look closely at her sides, you'll see she actually has her arms tucked behind her The faded pink fabric is just a second layer of shoulder ruffles. Each of her arms are visible beneath those directly at either side of her torso. Her right (our left) hand is also slightly visible.
I get people like to theorize on things that have been floating around for years, but she has arms. Not only is there a picture of her statue out with her arms in it, but bryke himself has also confirmed that she has arms. People need to do a little research instead of rehashing the same stuff that has been around with proof of it being debunked other than that i'm pretty sure it's confirmed that she was the wife of the firelord during that time
SHE DOES HAVE ARMS, her arms are at her side, theya re just not that noticable cause the sleeves match herr dress... And her arms are sticking close to her body.... Its an illusion unintentional illusion
@@MaybeMattMartin yes you can see the long sleeve going down the sides of her dress, and her right hand shows a little bit, you know yang chen looks more like someone who doesnt have arms in that picture, but she does hqve arms, its just an illusion
In the legend of korra artbook part one air page 128 there is a panel where it show the past avatar scene and the parts where it seems she is missing arms look more like tassles of some variety
I like how not only he posts avatar content but he just talks out his thoughts like he’s our virtual friend but real. (That doesn’t really make any sense but you see were I’m coming from)
I think it can be channeled thorough the hand if you think about when zuko tried to lighting Bend instead of him generating lighting it made a concentrated blast like combustion benders
I think the thing minghua has is something more similar to phantom pain rather than psychic waterbending. Once the water is there, she can feel through it which is why the water can be shaped to become dexterous just like normal hands would be.
I think it originated when some firebenders realized they could delay the process of creating fire. Conventional firebenders immediately combust energy for their attacks into flames, thus creating fire. Combustion bending, however, delays this process, building up more pressure and energy into a single point, so instead of flames they create an explosion due to all of the built up energy they delayed from combusting immediately
Sokka is kind of a genius for picking up on the small detail that combustion man has two noticeable sparks before exploding given the name “sparky sparky boom boom man”
I'm so gald atla is getting noticed. I watched it around when it first came out, and know one knew about it. Its such an amazing show and it 100000% needed more attention❤
The next avatar after Korra is gonna discover true lightning it’s where you unlock your lightning third eye but instead of explosions it’s lightning explosions
Technically there has never been an avatar to fully master every element because you would have to be able to use earth metal sand mud glass lava air flight spiritual projection fire combustion lightning water ice and blood bending maybe the next avatar could master all of the elements and sub elements and we could see someone combustion bending while flying over a mote of lava while blood bending that would be awesome
I love the fact that you look back at best avatars and and to the overall story. I wish that the creators would also do the same. We don't need a story about The Last Airbender. We already have that. Instead of going forward and creating avatars after the Legend of Korra, we need to look backwards and find a roots of this great world building character.
Leaves from the vine Falling so slow Like fragile tiny shells Drifting in the foam we love you Little soldier boy Come marching home Brave soldier boy Comes marching home
She has arms but watching this I wish she hadn’t!!! This theory is so cool dude!!! Your perspectives on and affection for this series are why I’m so glad to have subscribed and am creeping on all your precious videos!!
Zuko: "And I never should've sent that fire nation assassin after you, I'm gonna try to stop him." Sokka: "Wait, you sent combustion man after us?" Zuko: "Well his name is sparky sparky boom man but-"
Whether she has arms or not, it's just a theory...calm down guys😉
A film theory!!!!
@10,000 Subscribers With 0 Videos Challenge That's great. He's just hypothetically speaking about her not having arms. At the end of the video, he said that it could be complete bs. Lol.
shakia white true true
It’s just a theory A game theory
Dafuq is that weird emoji you got there😂
Maybe she doesn’t have arms because she discovered combustion bending, rather than the opposite.
For example, combustion man had a prosthetic arm and leg after being injured from combustion bending.
That really makes sense.
That actually makes sense.
That kinda makes sense.
I was thinking exactly that the moment he mentioned it. Makes sense that the very first person to discover it, had a little whoopsy on the way XD
She has arms... if you look closely you can see her hands
I feel like these recent videos are a cry to have a general avatar book going through the small details for each avatar
Or a cry for: give us more new content, not a retread!
@@AntoineBandele I cant really argue with you there, its what i want afterall
i think we need to learn more about the other avatars we don't know about instead of the main ones
Or having the original creators and actors do book 4 air...
I'd like to have both, about the avatars we already know and other avatars. They say there are a thousand (although I don't know how, if it's been only 10,000 years of the cycle), so there's a lot to explore there.
Yall talk about her but the dude behind her was a straight up firelord. He has the firelord crown
so I wasn't seeing things...
@@KittuPaladin at 4:47 you can see another firelord in the top left corner too
And Korra is basically a princess
I bet he was one of the strongest Avatars. Atleast in his own element. Fire Lord AND Avatar? That probably said a lot back then
I noticed that too. I was looking to see if other people also saw it
Some lazy animator: eh no one will notice her we don’t have to draw arms
Him: makes this video
Animator: *surprised pikachu face*
That said lazy animator also did not follow the avatar cycle to the avatars pass the third row of avatars
Nohcav thank you I thought I was tripping when I saw that a while back
if you look behind the "armless avatar", the earth bender avatar before Yangshen is copied and pasted behind her because they were too lazy.
yasis baws Bruh, they also copy pasted Avatar Szeto on the far right lmao
She has arms
Even if it is a drawing error or she does have arms, I think that the catalyst for combustion bending, being someone who wouldn’t be able to bend otherwise (having no arms) would make a lot of sense.
2:48 are we not going to talk about the fact that the fire-bending avatar behind her to the right is wearing the crown of the Firelord's?
I just notices that
Thanks
Zuko got know a lot of avatars
and?
@@jerryjustice5021 🙄
I don’t agree with her being royalty necessarily, because roku has the crown of the crown prince yet he isn’t royalty. Of course we know why but maybe a similar thing happened with her and we know a lot of fire nation citizens have things like that in their hair.
Roku's was a very rare and probably unique case. It was shown in Roku's reaction to him receiving it, that indicates this probably never happened before.
Mando Maul good thinking but we know avatar szeto was very close with royalty and high up there so chances are it could have happened with him to. His surprise could indicate that or it could just be rokubwas surprised because it is a royal artifact and belongs to that person and was a treasure the to nation and not cause its rare. Also we have seen just about every position of fire nation royalty and none of which wore that hair price which can lead us to belive that means nothing as for most fire nation citizens have some form of fire nation crown or emblem in their hair or have a fire nation like hat thing.
I think it was zuko's daughter who said that before the fire nation was unified and had royalty, it was just multiple warring clans so my guess is that there probably wasnt even a royal crown at that point.
Dan Walker good point but that was very long ago we just don’t know how long. In the comics they tell you more about that.
Just realized something. The crown in her hair wasn’t a fire nation logo but was similar just without the inside parts of it. Maybe she was royalty among one of the tribes before the nation had a monarchy and that was her tribes or whatever symbol and a lesser developed fire nation logo/emblem. Typically fire nation citizens wear a fire nation emblem in their hair so it would make since for her to wear one of tribe.
Her: *is the first combustion bender*
Roku: *Lava bends*
Szeto: Am I a joke to you?
Szeto: bureaucracy bending
Roku can't lava bend because if he could he would of bend the lava from the volcano before he died
@@asilahsbs6477 Not to mention the toxic gases that even the Avatar couldn't survive. He straight up tried, but he was getting weaker from the gas.
@@asilahsbs6477 Roku's temple is made of LAVA
She does have arms, they're just tucked under her clothing. If you look near her hip closely, you can see her hands on her side
Not sure if you realised, but if you look at her shoulders, especially at 2:48, you see what looks like the beginning of an arm, but no continuation.
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I’ve been trying to tell ppl she has arms look it up
She has arms. It's as clear as day.
I also thought it looked like she had arms idk tho, still a fun video :)
Let's talk about the triple chin air nomad avatar behind Kuruk lol
😂
If you pay attention, that same air nomad can be seen far behind, to the left of the screen.
The calorie bender
@@overkill2933 First Avatar to learn the art of type 2 diabetes.
Wait aren't they vegetarian? 😂
See that's what I'm saying we need a book about only the Avatars telling their life stories wat they did in the Avatar cycle
I agree
This is what I was expecting them to do before Avatar Korra.
Part of marshal arts is control over your own mind
itarfer that’s a good point because they did that with legend of Korra, they used our lack of knowledge about the first avatar to create a whole story line for a current avatar
You can see her arms in red puffy sleeves, you can even see her hand on the lower left
Edit: Very cool video regardless. Always loved the idea of new forms of bending being developed out of necessity
Yeah she does have arms. U can sorta see the outline of her torso.
I dont think she has arms you guys can correct me if im wrong but i just dont see it
@@Mommie2redheads if u look very carefully at 2:43 u can see the outline of her body, her sleeves and a part of 1 her hands. It either blends in with her clothing or her arms r behind her back
Same
Also I think they thot she was armless bc of those fringe or whatever there called on her shoulder and thot they were sleeves
All those other choices in that poll you showed looked interesting as hell
I try to stay with them interesting concepts. We'll see what wins next week.
Antoine Bandele brrooo I cant believe you responded. But yea man thank you keep up the good work. I love your stuff
Did someone else noticed that behind her is a man with what it seems to be the fire lord crown?
Never mind i saw it
Isn’t she the one wearing the crown?..
Edit: I didn’t really know what the fire lord crown looked like, i realize the one she’s wearing isn’t it
Did anybody notice that the avatar cycle is messed up
Yeah it might be one of the fire lords, maybe idk sozin’s grandfather or great grandfather
@@corriecovelli3571 It's not messed up, it's just that the 4th row goes left to right
I love these kind of speculation videos on the Lore of the show. Avatar has the best world building by far.
5:41 completely off topic but that water tribe avatar on the far left was REALLY pretty. I wonder what her story was?
Glenton Campbell she looks high status.
people call her zelda 😂😂
Owen Dunn I love that honestly! Avatar Zelda 😂
She is like Yue.... ıt would be cool if there was a "moon" Avatar
I was thinking the same thing
wouldnt it be so cool if we saw had a book on on every single avatar and each of their impact on the wrld and makin different connections kinda like in the kyoshi series how the befongs were introduced or if aang or korra talked to the avatars like the ones when korra got her bending back and a bunch of them are standing their like one of those random ones o love ur vids tho
I’d take a lot of commitment to read all like 800 books
That would be like a dream come true. We need to learn of all the after that came before Yangchen
@@Qxestionable commitment that would be like a daily hobby
Comic please
Nobody:
Toph in a metal cage: ima invent a new bending real quick
Bro she does, they're tucked under her dress and that would be cool if she was the 2nd child of the firelord
i dont think thats what that is but maybe we wont knwo til they say something
@@CapXO I looked closely and I saw hands😂💀
@Bestro YT I'm sorry to hear that man, hope things aren't too bad🙏🏾
@Bestro YT Oh I thought you were serious my bad man😂💀
@@diversejoe617 Those AREN'T hands bro, look closer it's the light.
Ursa also wear the same headpiece so maybe she is the firelord’s wife
Which would fall in line with fire nation tradition, empowering the royal bloodline. The same reasoning Ursa was married to Osai.
She is avatar lua and yes she is firelords wife
Also she had arms that’s ridiculous theory
True her name was avatar lua s he had arms. She killed her husband because he was starting a war.
Avatar Lua is a fan made name, not a canon name.
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She clearly has arms if you look closely enough she just has big sleeves
That’s the clothes of the fire nation avatars behind her
@@enazbackwards5144 lol stop it's not. The color shades match. It gets darker as the avatars are lines up behind. If it was a firebender behind her, it would've been darker. You can also see her palm which can't be someone elses as from a perspective point - if a person is behind her, they would need to be directly behind and also smaller so you wouldn't even see them
true!! this is what i noticed too
Speaking of Avatars and Fire Nation royalty, there’s something really interesting that I’ve always wondered. Avatar Roku and Prince/Fire Lord Sozin were born on the exact same day of the exact same year. How might things have been different if Sozin had been the Avatar instead of Roku?
He would use his power to take over some nations disregarding rokus sayings
It’s a good theory but it’s been confirmed it was an animation error
It's not even an error. You can see her arms.
@@influentialtopic5487 exactly she has arms you can see them.They are next to her body
Still, it'd be awesome if they developed it like that. Having a disabled avatar would be the best. We need representation
Looking closer at the avatars after the ones in kyoshis cycle it appears that they are out of order
i think there water avatar twins or something
One theory is that the other three avatars in-between them died too early to actually be the avatar, and so they are not present within the cycle.
You don't know who i am ohhhh. i think it would be cooler if they were twins tho 😂😂
@@youdontknowwhoiam4349 ac Kuruk is the youngest avatar to die in like age of 30 so I am not sure about that
ImThe ShinyGuy do you mean yangchen? She’s the oldest avatar that was mentioned a lot in the shows
Still watching your videos after 5-6 years, great to be here and to support you, as you have basically been here my entire childhood :)
Sadly cause I like the theory, I think she does have arms. Down at her dress you see a little white triangle which I think is her hand. And she is holding the arms more behind her as you can see that she has these puffy sleeves till her elbow and the rest of the red sleeve next to the pink dress part
The avatar with no arms girl could have her arms made of anything lava, ice, literal energy, frickin even rainbows if she wanted to
Nice theory Antoine, but I don't think that this female fire avatar had no arms. In the legend of korra book 2 book about the art of that season, it shows this specific avatar's statue at the southern air temple with arms.
I think she actually does have arms but regardless it’s a cool idea and I honestly hope it’s true.
I feel a novel series based on this royality arm-less Avatar will be a great series!
So little to none earth bending
Octopus water arms
Fire coming from the legs and or mouth
(Maybe combustion bending too)
And air breakdancing
That would be interesting
@@Sepia_formal Earthbending would probably be a royal pain in the ass, but we've seen Bumi seemingly bend with his face, so it's certainly possible.
Well she probably used earth bending a lot and water arms like mung hua. And she can fire and air bend with her mouth
i might be wrong but supposedly the fire breath style of bending was invented by iroh, which would have been after her time
Emmaline Kitzmiller it wasn’t invented by Iroh. Kyoshi does it in the books
El Sabroso ok so, I nvr said anything abt that
@@emmalinekitzmiller7169 Iroh invented the redirecting lighting move. He was known as dragon of the west because of his fire breath, but it was never implied he invented it.
I always thought that the sleeves draping off to the side were her arms. It just looked like she was armless due to her shoulder extensions of her out for being so long. If you look at Roku's outfit (and some of the other fire bending afters; aside from Szeto) , it kind of looks the same way too. That being said, the idea of an armless avatar is intriguing.
I've seen this theory before. I think her arms are just drawn weird. If you look closely, you can see them tucked into her sides. There's a little white speck to the left of her that could be her hand sticking out. Also, if you look closely, you'll notice that she's wearing some sort of belt. The edges of the belt don't reach all the way across. Instead it stops just short on both sides, meaning the areas where the belt is not present is actually her sleeves.
In my Legend of Korra fan-fiction, I actually gave this Avatar a name. I called her Avatar Mei-Ling, and she was from the Fire Nation royal family. I also gave the combustion-benders an origin. In my story, the combustion-benders were part of a tribe called the Zatsu Tribe, who were a persecuted minority in the northern Fire Nation. They originated when fire benders from the northern Fire Nation intermingled with Air Nomads from the nearby Western Air Temple across the sea, leading to a new culture emerging. The two styles of bending mixing led to the emergence of unique firebending style known as combustion-bending. Because of their strange bending and different culture, the Zatsu Tribe was feared and persecuted throughout the Fire Nation's history, especially during the Hundred Year War due to them having some Air Nomad heritage.
Is the “be water my friends” you say at the end of videos a reference to Bruce lee?
Yep.
Wow I never would have caught that... Damn brain losing memory q.q thank you so much for the point out
What I would give to just sit in a room with y'all during quarantine and pass the time engaging in different topics and theories about the series. I've never met any of you nor heard of you,yet I feel as if we're all part of one big family. ATLA & ALOK is just magical,plain and simple.
What if she blew off her arms like a combustion man?
Each Avatar seems to progress more within each era they live, I have a slight theory on the setting of the Avatar after Korra...
Aang lived in an ancient time which is more reminiscent of the 1800’s in Asia when technology was new and was starting to become more militarized. Bending is more traditional and is based on the traditional way of martial arts.
Korra basically lives in the 1920’s with a steampunk era where technology is an extension of bending. Also bending is far more fast paced and pro-boxer like.
The next Avatar after her I picture living in a 1970’s hippie culture with technology being kind of the same, but more personalized. Bending I could be brung back to its spiritual origins and fluidity with a mix of psychic abilities.
deViianceTV I think the next avatar would live in the 50s because korra could die at 47
The reason for Korra’s early death would be
-avatar state shortened game her lifespan
-poison shortening lifespans
-lack of Raava’s energy shortening her lifespans
-energy and avatar state used during harmonic convergence shorting lifespan.
She has arms you can see the peak of her hand. It's a cool concept but this person this drawing has arms and hands. 2:44 on the close up you can clearly see her arms and hands.
Could be part of the dress
@@avatarmufasa3628 you can see her hand peaking out. Its clearly a hand
@@stephylynnpatch its not like its a hand shape or anything. its more a thin line even when you see the zoomed up ones to her.
I mean perhaps the dress is covering the arms up, i just think the theory sounds cool
@@avatarmufasa3628 the theory is cool isn't a cool concept but people are passing this off as canon and it's not.
@@stephylynnpatch oh they absolutely shouldnt take this as canon. but antoine says as much at the start of the vid
It makes sense, Im happy that theres someone like you out there who answering all the avatar question that the fans and super fans and the crazy super fans are dying to know. Thank you very much for posting these videos. Your a smart creative youtuber.
Interesting. I always thought of combustion bending as some kind of mutation ability, where a firebender fires energy through the light chakra (i think that's the one on forehead), given that it's so different and independent from the main bending ability.
Exploring this Avatar would be amazing though, how she learns bendings and copes up with her disability etc
Oof, while watching this video, I noticed they used two avatars twice in the lineup, an air nomad and the old bearded earth nation avatar. They use them to fill in the background (the 5th and 6th rows).
Never noticed that before.
Armless, or third row laziness.
As a huge fan of this series, it’s great to have a dedicated TH-camr like you. I Just found your vids today and I’ve been watching them all day. Definitely subscribed 🙏🏾💯
5:44 look at the fat Joe air bender on the left he looks like a good uncanny type design that fits well like the Buddha.
Yes. I've notified he looks like an avatar Buddha, too.
@@emmanuellattab4881 Bro I would so love to see a a series based on this dude. There is just so much story potential to this World it pains me that they don't create more Avatar stories. I mean all we got was Korra which was fun but I really want to see more past lives animated into a TV show.
The 1st instance of Psychic bending was actually Zuko I believe in the episode Warriors of Kyoshi when he's controlling the flames on candles just by meditating.
Then we have Katara by end of season 1 who bursts an ice vase simply by getting angry when Paku refuses to teach her.
And then we have Bumi who can bend just with his mind or as he claims by his face
Zuko was controlling the candles with his breath. Similar to what Iron did under the comet.
Theory or not, this looks like a spot on idea regardless
But she has arms
Its just big sleeves that cover them, you can see it if you zoom
The no arm Avatar sound incredibly AWESOME, huh??
She might have been an Avatar who could ONLY combustion bend instead of mastering the 4 elements.
You dont need arms to bend as demonstrated by ming hua
So nobody us going to talk about hiw beautifull the female avatar behind szeto and kyoshi is?
It's fun to see that even after all these years people are comming up with different theries/storylines/ etc.
I'm a fan for looking for Avatar related theries, like trying to calculate how many Avaters there might have been (based & in combination of your video and info I found online), possible subbending teckniques, etc...
Keep up the good work...I'm looking forward to your next video.
he didn't come up with this theory though. It's been around for years already. He's just late to it
Here is the theory I came up with
In ATLA season 3 Zuko hires the combustion bending assassin and we can see that he has missing limbs which is very likely for the reason why he lost 2 of his limbs.
His toughness combined with luck could be the reason why he survived.
In LoK we are introduced to a combustion bender named P’Li whose abilities were discovered at very young age without any fire bending training whatsoever which means that combustion bending is not an ability that can be learned and it is an ability discovered at a very young age. She was kidnapped and forced to become the greatest weapon ever by being trained by some of the best firebenders ever.
Her not losing any limbs or dying and being a better combustion bender than combustion man suggests that there may be secrets of combustion bending only known to special people and some members of the royal family.
The armless avatar may have hid her combustion bending secrets in the royal family and maybe passed on to a few people which could suggest why P’li never was harmed by her combustion bending as a child and in learning stages which is extremely rare furthermore hinting at the fact that this armless avatar was in the royal family which could suggest her outfit.
losing her arms and surviving also meant that she could have mastered her combustion bending faster because other elements were a lot harder to progress without arms which could also be another reason why she survived because her learning the combustion being quicker (because the other bending types were harder to learn allowing her to put more time and focus into combustion bending) could’ve prevented another accident.
We can also see that combustion bending requires extreme focus so those children survived their first explosion would’ve definitely died from later explosions caused by them breaking focus which is the reason why only people who are specially trained people like P’li, the armless avatar and maybe combustion man avoided future incidents.
I don’t think she was the first person to discover combustion bending but rather she was the first known combustion bender and the only one who survived childhood and actually learned her ability due to her having no arms allowing for an opportunity to master and control her combustion bending (and the fact that she was specially trained because she was the avatar which helped her develop combustion bending even quicker).
The idea that combusting bending is extremely uncommon because only very few are born with it (and the fact that it can’t be taught) and only the strongest ,toughest, most talented and best benders survive and learn it is pretty interesting in my opinion.
Heres my theory: The Fire lady Avatar is able to combustion bend and is the Fire Lord during her era. She understood chi more fervently than most, so she was able to discover the elemental extension. Similar to how Toph could understand how to bend metal. While also being highly enlightened towards other nations(possibly she's knowlegeable of multiple Jin, since she would be able to understand the world. In a diversified light and the complexity of her own). Which became a detriment(as it could lead to the known events with Sezto and Roku's era; what you stated). Due to her focus upon other nations, as she might've grown to a point of comfort with her nation. As it deteriorated while she was often away. Which led to family lines being severed(as royalty doesn't continue on through the exact same family's)and would lead to future generations; Combustion Man, becoming a spy/assassin during times of war and P'Li, being saved from being a war Lords weapon(both were manipulated, due to them having fractured pasts and disjointed beginnings).
I like this theory.
She looks like royalty doesn’t she
Given how combustioners always fight the avatar in some capacity, I'm betting it wasn't pioneered by an avatar. We usually get bigger, corruptible concepts from avatars, right?
Think you could make a video on the messed up order of the avatars? Assuming the order to be what's stated in the opening, it should be Water, Earth, Fire, Air (of course Wan was a firebender so water wouldn't be the first in the cycle, but let's go with it as a circle technically has no beginning) The avatar before bearded earth guy (before Szeto, behind Kyoshi, think his name is maybe Salai) should've been water...but is fire. Before HIM should be Air which is correct (we're looking at the 'food friendly' air nomad) however before him should've been Fire, but is instead Earth?
Perhaps some were stillborn, or murdered at birth? Never discovered they were the avatar, or refused the role? Perhaps Raava had reason to choose another nation than the next one in the cycle?
I know it's likely an animation consistency error but it could be cool to theorise an in universe explanation.
I want to learn about the Air Avatar before Yang chen
I see it
The fat one?
Roses no next to the so call No Arm avatar
Great Video!
I once did a small discussion on her on Reddit (but more focused on self doubt because of her disability)...but it didn't fly because I was told she had arms....but it's still a wonderful topic with so many possibilities.
Anyway, glad that you discussed her. It was very interesting. I love your exploration of the past Avatars.
Dude I love your mind. Same as me I can spit out lore theories and it’s my favorite thing to do
Yo thats just clothing, if you focus on her hips you can see the clothing actually follows and her right hand actually shows. Its just fire nation clothing, kind of like when you put a t shirt over a sweater. *She had arms*
She have arms. Just look at roku's clothes. Theres a book that shows her statue. SHE HAVE ARMS.
Having a disability myself, I’ve always wanted to learn more about her, maybe she did have a hand in discovering combustion.
I wonder if there ever was a Avatar that discovered Sandbending, or Icebending
Icebending is basically water bending techniques
Toph can sandbend iv seen it in a episode
@@jtrecords4856 I'd consider it a different bending style. Benders use icebending similar to how an earthbender would earthbend. Also kinda how lavabenders state-change earth into lava, waterbenders do it too.
Since water has a much lower melting and freezing temperature, most decent waterbenders state-change pretty easily.
2:45 if you look closely at her sides, you'll see she actually has her arms tucked behind her
The faded pink fabric is just a second layer of shoulder ruffles. Each of her arms are visible beneath those directly at either side of her torso. Her right (our left) hand is also slightly visible.
I get people like to theorize on things that have been floating around for years, but she has arms. Not only is there a picture of her statue out with her arms in it, but bryke himself has also confirmed that she has arms. People need to do a little research instead of rehashing the same stuff that has been around with proof of it being debunked other than that i'm pretty sure it's confirmed that she was the wife of the firelord during that time
The male Avatar behind her seems like he was Fire Lord he has the crown that Ozai & Zuko had while being Fire Lords.
I always thought she just had her arms behind her back
SHE DOES HAVE ARMS, her arms are at her side, theya re just not that noticable cause the sleeves match herr dress... And her arms are sticking close to her body.... Its an illusion unintentional illusion
jordan licup you literally cant see her arms
Maybe Matt Martin 2:50.
Yeah you can. You can even see a bit of her hand.
Yeah KeeN thats not her hand
@@MaybeMattMartin yes you can see the long sleeve going down the sides of her dress, and her right hand shows a little bit, you know yang chen looks more like someone who doesnt have arms in that picture, but she does hqve arms, its just an illusion
In the legend of korra artbook part one air page 128 there is a panel where it show the past avatar scene and the parts where it seems she is missing arms look more like tassles of some variety
Imagine she was a peaceful fire lord. Lack of arms in a literal sense for the country.
I like how not only he posts avatar content but he just talks out his thoughts like he’s our virtual friend but real. (That doesn’t really make any sense but you see were I’m coming from)
That’s EXACTLY what I’m going for, and how TH-cam used to feel to me in the old times.
It would be cool if she’s who ming hua look up to to become a powerful bender
I think it can be channeled thorough the hand if you think about when zuko tried to lighting Bend instead of him generating lighting it made a concentrated blast like combustion benders
2:43 Tell me if I’m crazy but is that not the Fire Lord headpiece that the male fire nation avatar is wearing behind her?
same thoughts with that closeup!
I think the thing minghua has is something more similar to phantom pain rather than psychic waterbending. Once the water is there, she can feel through it which is why the water can be shaped to become dexterous just like normal hands would be.
I think it originated when some firebenders realized they could delay the process of creating fire. Conventional firebenders immediately combust energy for their attacks into flames, thus creating fire. Combustion bending, however, delays this process, building up more pressure and energy into a single point, so instead of flames they create an explosion due to all of the built up energy they delayed from combusting immediately
Or maybe she lost her arms when trying to combustion bend, like Combustion Man.
Amazing video bro🙌🏽
I want information on the fire nation avatar holding a sword aka Avatar Wolverine
Sokka is kind of a genius for picking up on the small detail that combustion man has two noticeable sparks before exploding given the name “sparky sparky boom boom man”
Can you make a video of the Earthbending Avatar that was before Avatar Szeto
I'm so gald atla is getting noticed. I watched it around when it first came out, and know one knew about it. Its such an amazing show and it 100000% needed more attention❤
That theory makes a lot of sense and it could kind of be along the same lines as when King bumi uses head to earth bend
Could it be drawing mistake?
Yeah he literally mentioned it could in the video
It's always nice when folks pay attention. Thanks, Hary.
It's not a mistake her arms are there. You can see a peak of her hand. You can see her sleeves
Stephy Lynn yeah the sleeves are there, other than that nothing
@@MaybeMattMartin shenhua short sleeve over a long sleeve and her little hand is peaking out of the bottom of the long part of the sleeve it's there
I really enjoyed your analysis 👌🏾
I think it may be very plausible!
Dog she has arms!!! They are tucked by her side wearing red arm pads..this video is pointless....
It doesn’t look like it
They dont look like arms so your point maybe wrong.
The next avatar after Korra is gonna discover true lightning it’s where you unlock your lightning third eye but instead of explosions it’s lightning explosions
I mean, she could still firebend through her feet and mouth.
That design you can tell is very intentional. Even the avatars next to and behind her have clearly defined arms
Technically there has never been an avatar to fully master every element because you would have to be able to use earth metal sand mud glass lava air flight spiritual projection fire combustion lightning water ice and blood bending maybe the next avatar could master all of the elements and sub elements and we could see someone combustion bending while flying over a mote of lava while blood bending that would be awesome
If you were to look closely at her, you can see she does have arms at her sides, they're just tucked in there, you can even see part of her right hand
Bruv I didn’t even no there was a armless Avatar wtf
I assumed you had a millions subs because this video was so professional
hi
Congrats on being first
Great video!
But I can't wait to get the video about the earthbeader with the beard!!!!
there is that fat avatar from the air nomad i really want to know more about him 😂😂😂😂
Buddha avatar. XD
There´s two actually; far behind and to the left of the screen there´s another one (which looks the same as the one you mention)
I love the fact that you look back at best avatars and and to the overall story. I wish that the creators would also do the same. We don't need a story about The Last Airbender. We already have that. Instead of going forward and creating avatars after the Legend of Korra, we need to look backwards and find a roots of this great world building character.
We all know what happens when the creators make a mistake
It become canon, so now it’s theory time:)
Leaves from the vine
Falling so slow
Like fragile tiny shells
Drifting in the foam
we love you
Little soldier boy
Come marching home
Brave soldier boy
Comes marching home
I love this song, but it kinda feels like youre just posting to get likes. Low, really low
She has arms but watching this I wish she hadn’t!!! This theory is so cool dude!!! Your perspectives on and affection for this series are why I’m so glad to have subscribed and am creeping on all your precious videos!!
I mean this theory has been around for a while so it's not really something he came up with himself
MystikAura Maybe! I didn’t know. None of my other theory channels presented it and I enjoy his presentation :)
Zuko: "And I never should've sent that fire nation assassin after you, I'm gonna try to stop him."
Sokka: "Wait, you sent combustion man after us?"
Zuko: "Well his name is sparky sparky boom man but-"
It's Sparky Sparky Boom Man!!!!
-*Aang*