American Gods Revealed Pt2: The Mythology of Season 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- With the Season 1 of American Gods now complete. This is a good time, to look back at the American Gods novel by Neil Gaiman, and consider which old gods, will make appearances in Season 2. Who will Shadow Moon and Wednesday meet next? Bryan Fuller and Michael Green seem to be unafraid to make changes to the original story and characters, or add new characters, so we can't be sure. But, in this video I will breakdown the Mythology of all the Gods, Myths and Legendary figures, still remaining in the novel. After I cover a few from Season 1 that I missed in my last video.
To see my first video on Amercan Gods, click here: • American Gods Revealed...
To skip past the characters of Season 1 and go the potential characters of Season 2, Go to: 8:47
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Check out my breakdown of the American Gods Season 3 Episode1 th-cam.com/video/DBWtLQ14otA/w-d-xo.html
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Some of he information might have been off or misconstrued in a sense but all religions have discrepancies and misinterpreted aspects, let’s give this guy on this page props for doing an overall amazing job despite the material he had to work with in the first place. Good job!
I agree, he made me want to research it for myself
Considering most religions are largely open to interpretation (see the discussion above about whether or not the Christian Holy Trinity are really three separate people), I think he did a really good job overall.
@@Xentrolis and there are often stories and interpretations that do not match given your location even amoung practitioners of a religion ignoring just hiw much more variations arise over time
Kali is not dancing on her husband Shiva; she is, in fact, associated with the "Adi Para Shakti" (Primordial Cosmic Energy) also known as Durga. Originally, she is the Mahadevi (Goddess of the Goddess), named Parvati, who takes on her furious and angry form as Kali when her child is in danger of being harmed or killed by demons. The story unfolds as follows: when her child is threatened, Parvati becomes frightened and seeks help from other deities. However, they refuse to intervene, advising her to approach Mahadev(Shiva), her husband, for assistance. Despite her plea, Shiva decides not to intervene at that moment.
Overwhelmed by anxiety and anger, Parvati transforms into Kali and descends to Earth to protect her child by annihilating the demons. However, in her uncontrollable rage, she continues her rampage, and even the other deities are unable to restrain her. Witnessing the chaos, Shiva, the Mahadev, descends to Earth and lies down in Kali's path. When she steps on him, she realizes her mistake-a grave offense. In that moment of realization, she halts her rampage and calms herself, reverting to her original form, Parvati. She then humbly asks for forgiveness from her husband, acknowledging the disrespect she showed by stepping on him.
Additionally, she protrudes her tongues for two purposes: firstly, to frighten the demons, and secondly, as a gesture of remorse when she realizes she has unintentionally stepped on her husband.
I like this.
Missed so much of the story, this isn't fully accurate. Adi Para Shakti is the source of all that is. She is power and she is Mahadev's power. You left out Sati and all that too. It would be insanely large so anyone who is curious read Devi Bhagwata Mahapurana by Veda Vyasa...
Ever since I was a kid I was obsessed with mythology or anything to do with the God of different pantheons
Try getting into spirituality as a whole might be a god or goddess reincarnated
I am too
There is so many misinformation about goddess Kali. She is the destructive aspect of goddess Parvati, wife of lord Shiva. Goddess Parvati transformed into goddess Kali to fight a powerfull demon "rakthbeej". Rakthbeej had unique powers. If anyone was to fight him and even one drop of his blood fell to the ground, then that drop of blood would make an entire new clone of that demon. She killed all his clones while she drank all of their blood and made wore the garland made up of countless demon heads. After killing all the rakthbeej clones, she had become very angry and in anger she tried to kill everyone who came in her path, seeing this lord Shiva the god of destruction laid on her path. Kali unknowingly stepped on him, as Kali was actually Parvati, she felt ashamed after stepping on her husband, so she stuck her tongue out as a symbol of remorse.
You guys might be thinking why does hinduism have god of destruction and "god of destruction" should be evil, but i'd like to tell you, this world goes on in an endless cycle of creation and destruction. What is made would eventually be destroyed and that is the rule of nature. So we have three gods namely, brahma, the god of creation; Vishnu, the preserver; shiva, the god of destruction.
Ty for your insight...
Different temple tell different story. There are about 15 (that i have read so far) misinformation comment about Goddess Kali in here, somehow its so important. And they all different to one another... really not helping your goddess case. and the clips he is showing is not his own. he pick the video from Tamil movie, you mean india film industry insinuated their own Gods? And the people is okay about that?
Barhiya bhai
thank you for explaining that.. i have always wondered and have often mistook shiva and kali to be the same entity or being..shalom
@@faznanbadri9752 stupid
Loki is also the mother of Sleipnir, the horse. Try not to think about it too much.
yep and his daughter is not called HELL, but Hel and the "e" is loooooooong spoken :)
Would love to see Hel
Hel(l) yeah - that would be soo cool :)
lop90ful1 It's gonna happen on November 3rd, just not in this series. I'm, of course, talking about Thor Ragnarock.
True, but its likely the origin of the word Hell, since "go to Hel "in norse mythology means, go to the ruler of the underworld, Hel, that might have evolved into meaning the the christian Hell.
I'm 42 and I grow up reading and loving all different types of mythology. This is a fascinating channel, thanks 👍👍
The djinn didn't steal his clothes, he granted his wish! - He had just arrived in the US recently and was failing miserably as a salesman. The djinn left him his taxi and his driver's ID had magically changed to show the salesman as the owner of the cab. So he gave him a new job that he could succeed at, which is why he's now driving the cab and wearing the djinn's clothes and sunglasses.
They certainly did have a one night stand, though.
i dont remember but what was his wish?
@@MadMuss It was basically just to not be a failure. He wanted a different life from the one he had, so the djinn gave him a new life.
@@taken-for-pomegranted its Jin
@@khonsu7629 nope it's not.
@@rosiederhoter it is am middle eastern and they are jin
I'm Native American and I wanted to correct something. We don't have gods. We have spirits. Both good and bad. We believe in only one god. The creator
WIJ WickedInsaneJuggalo II
The creator in hindu religion is brahma
yes many religions don't call them gods, the thing is that people "worship/pray" for them
Hebrew's invoke Angels and Christians believe in one god but pray to many saints and angels like Saint Mary and Saint Michael.
Comedy God okay comedy God
Dude I am just scared about the show doesn't get stopped due to harm of religious sentiment. Seen a lot of good story going down. I hope this masterpiece continues. Good video man.
in the west? most likely not, but in India, it's a different story altogether. M just glad Amazon prime has it haha
Borgias, Futurama ...list goes on T.T
Rishi Raj Mitra fuck that, it's the truth, forget all the man made bullshit...
Rishi Raj Mitra jesus. go away and learn english
As a Christian it is hard to see it displayed as such in the show and of course monitoring the explicit adult material is hard and not for the unfaithful Christian or those without the fast forward button. But I respect mythology and traditions. I love to learn and I always see where a moral lesson is at. I'm also an actor and skit writer so for my local community so I appreciate some of the great acting I've seen. However the depiction of Jesus is so far off from the Bible it is bothersome. Funny thing is the depiction of Jesus isn't far off from how Americans few Him. Its wrong and not Biblical but its kinda true society wise. Jesus isn't a clueless and gullible hippie not afraid to speak out against people or call them out or turn tables Or even whip them out the temple or talk smack to the devil. All of these He did in the Bible. He speaks with authority that is why the Pharisees killed Him. Yes He is love as God is , He is the literal embodiment of God's word. The father is in Him and He is in the father. He is the vine(example and connection to the Spirit) which our fruit comes from. The Fruit of the Spirit or the true marks of a Christian. Peace, Joy, Faithfulness, Self control, Forbearance, kindness, goodness, gentleness and love. (Those are the fruit of a Christian each moral has deep definition that deserves to be fully explored. Each one is ruined by misconceptions and society's definition which often is very different. But Spiritual fruit is beautiful and plants seeds in the minds of those who really need them to conquer their problems.) However God the father has given Christ all authority in heaven to judge. As a Just Judge He has wrath against the wicked. As the Good Shepherd He has a rod to rebuke his sheep and a staff to beat off the wolves. "Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, your rod and your staff comfort me."
So I like the show as a fiction and I don't take myself too seriously. I'm not here to debate religion but to show you at least one religious persons perspective. I don't think the show will be cancelled anytime soon.
Jokes on everyone, this show is just Wednesday's victory in bringing back the old gods to everyone's mind lol
I had a great time on set of this show as a extra ...cant wait to see the parts were I was in... I hope you all enjoy the show....cant wait to start watching it
KALI is also NOT just about destruction. She brings life, salvation and protection to her followers
well said.
Kali character was so poorly done , her name is mamaji and she is waiting tables in usa and she found herself it that situation after migrating to usa . I was like rofl
I'm still waiting for Chinese and Japanese gods to show up :/
Bardia I'd like that too!
what if wednesday try to recruit Yato.
or even Bishamon! Munshi Rastro
I think it more likely versions of Hindu gods will show up, due to the polarity of Bollywood. Most Hong Kong action flicks, or any movie featuring Jet Li or Jackie Chan, or even Japanese Samurai films that might have enough of a 'cult following' to register with Americans, won't name the actual dieties in a way that will stick. the exception maybe being the Jade Emperor and the Monkey King. Hawaii and the Pacific Northwest probably have a nice collection of Polynesian and Native American dieties. I wouldn't be surprised if other versions of some pagan good exist in Washington and Oregon, thanks to all the Wiccans. It will be interesting to see if Odin takes on an his Horned King aspect during the war to come.
as wee seen in the episode where we meet Vulcan, they will be going to new and unexpected places in the show, especially if they wanna draw out the story for 5 seasons:)
$50 says the Chinese gods will be found in a Chinatown of a major US city and to keep with how foreign gods came to America and how said gods evolved specifically to the American mindset the Japanese gods may be blatant bastardizations with heavy Anime influence since that's how most of America learned about Japan. hell I could see them being converted to the new gods by way of cheap Chinese manufacturing producing gaudy and tacky Kawaii merchandise.once great and powerful legends are now reduced to shallow parodies in order to be remebered. or soemthing.
You forgot to mention the squirrel that gives water to Shadow While he's on the tree. I know you already mentioned who It is, but I love how Gaiman brought him to life into the novel.
you completely misunderstood the jinn scene, it wasn't vengeance, the jinn showed the guy tenderness and then granted his "wish" of a new life.
lol he doesnt grant wishes. what he did was go against his own nature and have a one night stand. and then go back to his true nature basically destroying the dudes life by making him want for something he would never have. nothing more destructive then a broken heart
@@thewizardoftech5075 they didn't have a one night stand they were a couple and he was freed at the end by swapping places djinn want nothing more than to be free and megalomaniacal men with god complexes want nothing more than to have the power of an elemental being and are too busy worshiping themselves to see the true divinity in others (this is how you know they are blind, oppressed, kept from perceiving the truth in front of him. Samael blinds these men)
@@thewizardoftech5075 such a strange interpretation you never saw the episode also you sound like you have a god complex and have deluded yourself into thinking one night with you would leave an impression. I once knew a guy like that he was mad bc we met 5x and I never remembered who he was bc he never left much of an impression.
@@jennpark8559 they did have a one night stand. they werent a couple at all. buddy .he never even seen the djinn again for a long time. if you meet someone sleep with them the same day and then basically never see them again until the future. thats a one night stand. after it they never eve came close to one another. and they never switched places either. the djinn just cant choose to be normal. he is who he is forever. all he did was leave his shit. and buddy took it. buddy became obsessed from being with basically a god. and buddy also didnt have a god complex. almost the opposite . a god complex is basically thinking your powerful and stronger then you are. he thought he was worthless and didnt deserve anything.
I am kind of surprised that Gaiman didn't incorporate some aspect of the modern Santa Claus into Wednesday as the concept that Odin would travel forth on Sleipnir during the winter solstice giving blessings and rewards to his faithful is generally considered the earliest "Santa" type legend in western mythologies.
I believe Gods can upgrade into different forms. I also think a few numbers of believers can carry one version of a God to other places. I believe Odin divided into two once Santa Claus was Created.
Santa Clause ate Five other Gods
1) Dutch: Sinterklass, 2) Christ Child Present Giver AKA Chris Kringle 3) Three Wise Men 4) Victorian England: Father Christmas 5) Saint Nicholas
1. Sinterklass: Dutch Patron Saint of Children. And the Dutch Translation of St. Nick. Sinterklass is now negativley associated with White Men in Black Face Playing Zwarte Piet
2. Christ Kind/Chris Kringle: Martin Luther's version decided the Catholic was sinful so decided Baby Jesus should bring Presents. Jesus was aged from birth to 12 years Old
3. The 3 Wise Men: Who first started the Christmas Giving tradition
4. Father Christmas: The Victorian English Personification of Christmas invented in the 15th Century.
5. St. Nicholas who was a Greek Saint in modern Demre Turkey. Saint Nicholas is the patron saint of sailors, merchants, archers, repentant thieves, prostitutes, children, brewers, pawnbrokers, and students in various cities and countries around Europe.
Personally I think the New Gods are really interesting, the fact they seem to work against each other or subvert each other while attempting to work toward a common goal, kind of like everything in the modern age.
My Interpretation of the three known New Gods, are the Personification of the Internet (hence the reason why the young guy has the personality of the comments section here on TH-cam), the Personification of the Media (the female many faced deity of the famous, with her altar as the phone and television) and the Personification of the Modern Age (I think they referred to him as Mr World. He seems like a salesman, or big business executive, but also seems to be the equivalent of "Big Brother" a man who sees all via satellites as he tracks Wednesday).
That's just my interpretation though
The young guy actually stands for technology in general, not just the internet. That's why they call him the Technical Boy. (Good one about the comments section, by the way.) Media, yup, the media, though I think the fact that she's female is arbitrary (same with the Technical Boy). Mr. World... can't say anything about him without spoilers. NO SPOILERS, FOLKS!
Actually, I think that is dead on--makes a lot of sense.
Two of them, media and big brother are the oldest of the three. Born around the time of the first government modern conspiracy, probably around ww1 and ww2 or maybe after JFK's assassination. And media's creation was modified after radio took off. They're new in the sense they are not hundreds of years old. The new kid was an early embodiment of the internet but was slightly outdated compared think today. Maybe?
Seeing the new trying to take over the old gods it's a super idea that's why I love this tv show also it is a little scary to think how close to reality everything is... I think the bee gods are awesome and I can't wait to see how the story will be... Personally, artificial intelligence, the media, the Internet is already reality so for me even though I love my ancient gods I still think the new ones are pretty awesome as long as at the end the ancient controls the new.... Thanks for this video, I didn't know this was based on a book (every time I fall in love with a series like this it comes from a book)
I think Mr. World is a personification of Captalism and Globalization, and that's why he is so powerful, because capitalism is the most important belief system in the world.
possible
Globalization, but not so much Captalism, hence his name, Mr. World AKA Mr. Global. In the books there are a separate group of new gods who represent Captalism more, in the form of the stock-market.
Capitalism
Did you read the book? Mr. World = Low Key Eye Smith = Loki
Why. The . Spoilers.
Please don't stop making American God videos. This is exactly what ive been looking for.
I love mythology
so much fiction based on fact---more truth and stranger than
THEN START CALLING IT BY ITS REAL NAME .. HISTORY :-I
Me too.
Great video or context and backstory and for the ones that want to already watch season 2 ! I CAN T WAIT
Luscalov Vlad I was impatient for season 2 as soon as the credits rolled on episode 8. :)
Now I have to read the book
I absolutely love that you put scenes in this video from God of War! Because I was thinking about it just before it popped on screen!
If you've ever wondered what Shadow's "light" is, I made a video breaking down a popular theory about this: th-cam.com/video/Zr0EIaaa3uw/w-d-xo.html
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And a link for the Gaiman short story collection "Fragile Things" which includes "The Monarch of the Glen", a story that follows Shadow after the events of American Gods: amzn.to/2Q1ow3l .
Thanks!
Kali is not forgotten god. She still worship by 1 billion people in India. more people than usa
Forgive me, for I'm only at Ep.7 of season two.
But.....As is the way of this shows providers and with the very few references that they have provided thus far. I can predict or perhaps suggest this.
It is my determination that Shadow Moon is "Baldr". Odens "Other" son. Everything considered it is not that hard to determine. Season three will be something. Indeed. Why else gift the spear to anyone else.
But how was he recomposed?
Is the question?
A spoiler. Perhaps. I really could not care less.
Or could I? Fuck me, I'm drunk. Who the fuck knows WTF is going on in this show.
Nice work on the Vulcan limp. Very good.
"giving rise to Mr. wood?"... giggidy
Correction: Loki isn’t Aesir at all. His mother and father were both hrimthursar or frost giants. In the Golden Age of the world, the cosmic races traded hostages in order to keep the peace amongst them. Loki and Gullveig were thursar hostages sent to Asgard. Gullveig traveled back to Jotunheim when her father became sick from not being able to ravage the world of men and Loki was eventually imprisoned in the underworld for his crimes against the Gods and punished as the damned.
Also Loki’s daughter isn’t Hel. Snorri’s our only source for this and we just don’t see it anywhere else. Hel is likely another name from Urd, the Goddess of fate, and Loki’s daughter is Leikn, a demon which embodies disease.
Also Baldur’s death wasn’t even semi-accidental. Loki simply tricked Hodur into doing his dirty work so that Hodur would be blamed. It’s my belief that Loki killed Baldur out of jealousy, because Baldur represents everything Loki is not. Interestingly, to avenge Baldur, Odin had to father another son who wasn’t Hodur’s full brother. To do this he seduced a woman called Rind using black magic, basically raping her. Black magic is outlawed by the Gods and considered blasphemous and harmful so Odin was cast out of Asgard. He was accepted back only when he refused to side with the thursar or frost giants against the Gods. I think this demonstrates something important the Edda has to say about atonement. Loki did some very bad things but almost every time he made up for them, always in the most flamboyant way, but would turn right around and either repeat his wrongdoings or do something even worse. Meanwhile Odin committed what’s early described as the worst sin imaginable, and even though he stoned for it in what may be the simplest way, he was forgiven because he kept to his word and he never sided with evil again. In fact he will defend against evil come Ragnarök when he’ll lead an army of heroes to fight Loki who will lead an army of the damned against the Gods.
So much effort put into this.. well done dude. Even if some things arent entirely accurate according to some commentators. Insanely well done and appreciate the effort that went into the pronunciations!
My breakdown of Episode 6 "Donar the Great" is up, here: th-cam.com/video/3om677lhYQ8/w-d-xo.html
"The Lard is good to me, and so I thank the LARD..."
Fun fact: In some versions, the dwarves had no part in the creation of Gungnir. It was created when Odin took a branch from Yggdrasil and carved his runes into its shaft.
One thing that struck me while watching the first season, is this nagging sense that Shadow Moon himself is someone of great importance (perhaps an ancient god)---but has forgotten who is is/was. There is clearly something much more to Shadow than has yet been revealed. He is key to what is coming and Wednesday knows and needs him for who he really is. Anyone agree?
He's Baldur.
Shadow is half-god, half man. Son of odin and a female mortal. It's explained in the book
My breakdown of American Gods Season 2 Episode 7 is out! th-cam.com/video/7EyUUaGmHNk/w-d-xo.html
Kali did make an appearance she describes who she is to Dead Wife she’s a waitress in the restaurant that Shadow was taken from.
Kali, Shiva,vishnu,bramha hindu has 330 million gods and goddesses.
@@debpratimkundu4266 what is the relevance of your comment?
@@debpratimkundu4266 33 types not 33 crore.
Cant wait to see Uranus
Not on the first date you won't.
but eventually...with patience.
Well. I don't show my anus to just anyone......
I know I'm late on this one but I have to tell I'm so glad that u mentioned a lot of deities from my culture, the Hindu deities like Kali, Ganesha and u even manged to find clippings of Tamil and Hindi movies for this video
You did a great job man ❤️❤️
Hello Everyone, I just posted my shot by shot breakdown of the first Full trailer (2nd Trailer) for American Gods Season 2. Check it out! th-cam.com/video/TZX8kvF4PcI/w-d-xo.html
I love this series so much-can’t wait for the next seasons❣️
This was AMAZING (Part 1&2). Your narration, clips, and insights have truly piqued my interest in reading and learning more about other culture's mythological characters and gods. Brilliant.
When he name dropped Iktomi i lost my mind, he even showed the old books I use to read when I was a kid. I'm subbing just for that, also the rest of the video is awesome too!
The Roman Deities are the counterpart of Greek deities...If I listen once more that a Greek is the counterpart I will flip the table.
and instead of just referencing the greek gods, they incorporate Roman ones? i guess it's easier, i mean the gods' names are easier when referenced as Roman, Vulcan is easier to pronounce than Haephestus.
Panagiota Avdoulou I would think the Roman versions of the deities would show up because thee are more relevant to Americans. They show up in our pop culture. in school we are taught that the Greeks were the first step in democratic culture, then the Romans followed, spreaing civilization, which eventually comes to America. Plus, the gods in Disney movies tend to use the Roman names, not Greek.
David Patrick no wonder the level of ignorance among you
though i agree mostly, and we are pretty much saying the same thing, i just realized that even the names of the greek gods sound more roman and still, i get why. even Hercules and Hades or haephestus sound more Latin to be easier on pronunciation , with the latin suffix -us
( also werent they characters in a disney movie, i never much liked disney movies. )
but you cant say that they dont show up in pop culture, what with all the movies these past years: 300, all the Hercules versions, even percy jackson (a moment to gag) or god of war.. or the fraternities in colleges? (is that still a thing? )
it's just a bit sad overall.. that it's mostly a matter of 'convenience'
Panagiota Avdoulou θα μας τρελάνει αυτός
I’m for sure late on this one but “Sioux” Native Americans are actually called “Lakota”. I’m Oglala Lakota and “Sioux” is a name we were given, rather than what our tribe is actually called. Otherwise great video!
@Mor MacFey Yet similarly "white man" has become an oversimplification of your specific race. Are you trying to make a counterpoint? Because if anything, your experience (with being called something you seem to dislike/not use is being used) would been similar to mine, which is why we can all be adults and calmly say "My race is actually referred to as ____". ";)"
Thus, many forms of media, from books to movies, refer to persons as being Lakota Sioux...instead of one or the other.
But, I'm Choctaw. No one ever seems to get that wrong...or the fact we aren't very friendly. Lol!!
If I'm not mistaking Sioux is an exonym that means little snake
@@leafpratt yeah, if I remember my history lessons, it's a name given to them by another tribe (the Shoshonee?) One who didn't like them very much anyhow (after they got horses, there were no shortage of those lol). Thus it is kind of rude to call them by the name their enemies gave them. Also, "Sioux" refers to both the Lakota and Dakota, who are related but very much distinct tribes (Oglala refers to a particular band of Lakota). Being specific if you can is better.
@UCer75mQUTCn-mVXA_bZArkw Technically its a french transcription of an Anishinaabe (Ojibwe) term, but I'm pretty sure it meant "little snakes". There's many Dakota/Lakota who don't mind the term but I personally prefer Lakota since both groups have diverged extensively through colonization.
Check out my breakdown and review of Season 2 Episode 3: th-cam.com/video/h_aFOjlt-S0/w-d-xo.html
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Dude you do need to do better research before making these videos.
Fun fact: Urd, Skuld, and Verdandi are all the same (Norse) root word conjugated into past, active, and future states.
In Spanish, Wednesday is Miércoles as in Mercury... so your theory makes sense.
Christian Cobian I second your statement ! In french : Wednesday = Mercredi which is quite close to Mercure
Same in Romanian: Miercuri is Wednesday, and it derives from the name of the planet Miercur or Mercury.
Also mercury is a liquid metal that vaporates fast, leaves no trace and its vapor makes you forget things and go insane.🤷♀️
Odin shares far more characteristics with Mercury than with Zeus.
Alexandre Martins agreed, and hermodr shares more characteristics with mercury or hermes
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The Annoying Kid = God of technology. Social media , gaming, And platforms alike which explains why his mindset is that of a disrespectful millennial and why his appearance constantly changes along with Lucy. because technology is constantly changes as well as it's aesthetic and purpose
Lucy= God of Media. pretty self explanatory being as that she's constantly presenting herself as media icons and celebrities. she's the domineering figure of that force and that's her power
Mr World= God of Globalization/Corporation/branding. I see Technology and Media as his children, And his creepy unfettered demeanor makes since being as that he is the culmination of all things ever posted, recorded, video tapped, uploaded, typed, And sent. so he is culminated of the deviency, corruption, immoral, irregular, and illegal side of things, as well as the logical, professional, intelligent, benevolent, and respectful side of things
ArchWizard CJ Lucy is called Media
I actually think Mr. World is the god of bureaucracy because of his lines about knowing everything about Shadow. It makes sense when you consider that the goal of bureaucracy is to efficiently collect and use data with forms and voting. Another think that stuck out was his overarching goal to streamline worship as if it was a resource, I think this need for control over resources also fits into the theme of Mr. World being the god of bureaucracy.
I think Mr World is an extension of world wide web and being inclusive to all information. Also his constant comments about branding and re-branding makes me think he might be relative to marketing which is a culmination of gathering demographic information and is much older than media itself
D Cc Maybe Tech Boy assumed the form of a millennial as an avatar in order to hide his true form.
Ah, fancy seeing you here.
Seems to me the man in the suit, whom Shadow can never remember, is likely Mímir, Odin's mentor of sorts in mythology who may in fact be Odin's maternal uncle. Mímir means "the Rememberer" and commonly had an epithet added, "Hodd-Mímir", which means something like "One of the Hidden Memory". In the myth the Vanir cut his head off and Odin has to preserve the head so he and Mímir can maintain council.
Orlando Jones performance of Anansi during the opening scene in episode 2 was the best of the show. Powerful!
Both videos were awesome and very informative !!! Thank you for the amount of effort it took to give such a great breakdown. I’m still spreading the word of how good this series is. I am so eager to Season 2!!!
I would think mr town would be a representation of settlements as a whole because that would also be an important part of pre -pagan life. Going from hunters and gatherers so to say to settled people who progressively then discovered agriculture would be an important step at least or?
In Scandinavian folklore the kobolt often recides in mines and underground. It can also be named Goblin.
Traditionally in Sweden, before you enter a mine you knock 3 times before you enter on the side of the opening of the mine to let the Goblin know you are entering. Also as to be polite towards the spirit that dwells there.
You've been very considerate to present so much information without spoilers - thanks! I'll look forward to watching the series, and your analyses :)
OutSTANDING video...so well done. I am such a geek for this book and the GLORIOUS series, which is perfection.
Thank you for the ancient egyptian correction cause thats what finally had me subscribing, it takes someone great to be accountable. There is clear indication of a link between egyptian architecture/culture and olmecan, the Africans had touched the america's long before
IMHO the casting for the TV show has been so spot on for what I envisioned when I was reading the novel that I think they would be losing out not to cast Adam Beach. He was totally my pick when I was reading and fancasting in my mind. Honestly, the only characters on the show that I was disappointed in the casting of was Laura Moon and Technical Boy but even then I've kind of begrudgingly accepted them.
Well, it makes sense that Technical Boy is most different from his description in the book. The book was written in 2001 and since then, technology and our use of it chanced a lot.
Back then the idea of the internet and computer was a overweight weird boy in a basement and now it chanced to the guy that is always a step closer to the future
I actually loved the change. When I was doing a re-read a couple of years ago, I came to the same conclusion, that the internet has changed so much that the book description doesn't work for a current on-screen character. I just don't particularly care for the actor. I thought Anton Yelchin would have been great but sadly he passed away.
lareinagordita how does one follow the lives of others to the point where you know them so well, you can see them filling roles in movies? Like the people who call off the birthdays of the Stars off the top of their head. Like why do people care? And where does the time and memory come from? What drives one to remember random Stars from across the globe?
I haven't read the books but I can tell you I can not stand Laura Moon in the show, her character arch makes no sense to me as well as the actress playing her is doing such a bad job IMO
My review of Season 2 Episode 1 is here! th-cam.com/video/tig9TWKKkSg/w-d-xo.html
StoryDive are you doing a video on the new gods?
@@WarrenKirkpatrick Hi. No, I don't think so because there are a bunch of videos on other channels about them already, but I talk about the new gods a lot in my Episode Breakdowns of Season 2.
thanks so much for these god/godess breakdown videos! I've always loved mythology and I knew I missed quite a few in this show. great job!!!
If I remember correctly, Kali is not the wife of Shiva in Hindu mythology. Shiva's wife is actually Parvati, mother of Ganesha, who is the son of Shiva and Parvati.
Having said this, my problem with not only this series, but any non-Indian series/movie where Hindu mythology is referred to is that they never look beyond Kali and Ganesha. There are more than 10K Gods, Goddesses, Demi-Gods, etc. in Hinduism, most with rich and interesting stories attached to them, and they always latch on to Kali and/or Ganesha. That's kinda lazy.
If i remember correctly, Kali is the destructive counterpart/aspect of Parvati. So yes Kali is Shiva's wife.
To be fair, part of the reason why hardly anyone looks past a couple of the bigger gods (mostly Shiva and Kali) in Hinduism is that during the Raj, when most of India was under British rule, many Indian Hindus themselves did the same.
See, the Brits considered anyone who wasn't a Christian as automatically less civilised and anyone who wasn't at least a monotheist as completely *un*civilised. Leading to some Indian Hindus claiming that Hinduism really only had one god (Shiva) and that all the many gods in Vedic writing were all either just aspects of that one god (in similar fashion to the Trinity, but larger) or angels. And also that Shiva just happened to be an aspect of the Christian god and that all the angels were Christian angels (except Kali, who was relegated to being a disguise of Satan).
Pretty much the same way that for the Germanic/Nordic pantheon, most people really only know Wotan/Odin (equivocated with 'God'), Thunir/Thor ('the son of god') and Loki (equivocated with Satan)... And why the story of Ragnarok even exists. (It's essentially an attempt at a story about the end of the Norse/Germanic pantheon and the rise of Christianity. Hence why it ends with an 'Adam and Eve'-like couple becoming the new parents of humanity.)
Robbert van Eijndhoven This actually supports my 'lazy' claim. It has been 70 years since India became a nation independent of the British. Almost 3/4th of a century. It's ripe time to dig deeper and bother learning/researching more into Hindu mythology and get more enriched story telling ideas. They can dig up dirt and half truths about historical figures like Shivaji and Gandhi, but can't be bothered with a surface level research into mythological figures that make for great storytelling. It's so lazy. When the only Gods they prefer to highlight are Gods of death and destruction, or an elephant headed one, it limits the scope and richness of possible storytelling.
Take the series at hand. The creators/the author bothered to do a deep dive in Norse mythology, which as you say also tried to retcon it's mythology to fit monotheism. In contrast, the followers of monotheistic Hinduism are very few. If Norse, then why not others?
Don't be hasty! Vulcan wasn't in the novel. Queen of Sheba's role was also trivial. The series might head into a different direction.
Robbert van There's is plenty of literature and poetry about the Germanic pantheons, people only focus on the top tier gods because they are the top tier gods.
Johnny Appleseed is supposedly buried in Fort Wayne, Indiana and has his own festival there.
Thank you for being respectful to many varied cultures throughout the world; knowledgeable with a willingness to correct.
My theory for the driver is that he is a god that was already old when Odin made his travels, and is because of his only worthshipper being Wednesday, only present in wednesday memory, as he is too weak to be remembered.
Ice cube- Leave Korean Jesus alone.
As a persian, i agree to all the info's said bout djin and sheba( in part 1 ) really good job.
Thank you so much for doing these videos. I love the show and am beginning to read the book. I love these so much :) Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
This video need a very deep and intense reasearch. Hats off to you any your hard work
“You no take candle!”
-Kobold
Little long but worth reading.
Fanation did a great job explaining Gods from different culture.However I would like to add my thoughts about Kali.Kali is a avatar of Parvati (Wife of Shiva) who manifests during war with demons.One such demon was Raktabija (literally translates to Seed of Blood) who was given boon that he can reproduce himself from every drop of his blood that reaches the ground.Kali killed the demon by slashing him multiple times and drinking his blood before it reaches the ground.But during the intense war she became enraged and started killing everyone in sight be it man, deva(angels) or asura(demons).Fearing the end of the world by enraged Kali deva(angels) pleaded Shiva to stop her wrath.Shiva knowing her wife's(Parvati/Kali) wrath didn't confront her directly,instead He chose to lie among the dead bodies in the battlefield.Eventually Kali stepped on Him and on realizing this She reacted by her tongue sticking out (a body language that shows that someone has committed a blunder) in shame.This iconic image comes to everyone's when they think of Kali,this doesn't mean that She has her tongue out every time.
Peace Out
It's Long too but way better...
You've said everything accurately...But you're an idiot, you know...
And your grammar is bad...
1st - It's 'Shiva knowing his wife' not 'her wife', 'her wife' would make Shiva a female, idiot....
2nd - Deva literally means God not Angel, not some dumb shit, but GOD
e.g. Mahadeva = Great god (Reference to Shiva)
In Indian mythos Angels are referred to as devdoot, ever heard of that shithead?
3rd - Raktabeeja doesn't mean 'Seed of Blood', it literally translates to 'Blood Seed', what's the difference? Well Seed of blood means seed made of blood, whereas Blood seed means blood is the seed....
Dumbfuck...
One of the best series I have ever seen! Wednesday's "What is a God?" monologue is one of the most profound things you will hear. . .
I saw Kali in the newest episode and I loved it. She was perfect 👌
I'm curious on if any of H.P. Lovecraft's Gods will make an appearance. Although his mythology is of his own creation, it has great influence today. The Necronomicon is entirely fictional book, yet today is often thought of as real. It would be a good addition to the series, as it could blur both the line of fiction/nonfiction and New/Old gods.
Amanda Goldsbury It would be hard yo personaifiy them, plus it would defeat the whole purposw of Lovecraftian Horror, althought i'd be cool to hear a refrence or maybe an easter egg.
Dont know about the show, but in the novel shadow has a dream that shows him the god's and deities who perished along the ages, and one of the depiction is portrayed in such way that it can be a Babylonian god. Not all the Gods in Gaiman Universe made it to the time novel takes place.
Made-up myths, like Lovecraft and Bunyan, are explicitly nonexistent
Lovecraft did make them up, and the ones he borrowed from actual myth (i.e., Dagon), he put his own spin on them. He said so himself in his letters. And I think the book actually mentions Shadow dreaming of octopus-faced gods, which certainly sounds like Cthulhu.
Yes, I must look like a complete lunatic, what with my spamming profanities at random people, picking fights for no reason by taking what they say out of context. Tone it down a bit, you're getting crazy juice on everyone.
Why are you asking me to name whatever made-up source the aliens beamed into your head or your dog told you? We have the dude's own notes and voluminous correspondences with other writers. Case closed, genius.
Hey Fanation, love the video. I would like to offer a correction though. You said that Christians who believe in the Trinity see Jesus as three beings, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. That is technically incorrect. Jesus, while attributed to being God like the other two members, holds the place of the Son in the Trinity. The Orthodox model of the Trinity says that while all three are God, Jesus cannot be the Father, or vice versa, nor can the Holy Spirit be any of the other two. Instead, the three exist in a perichoretic relationship. Please don't take this correction as a frothy mouthed rebuke, I just want to make sure people are informed.
Thanks for the comment. I'm sorry if I got this wrong. I've had a few comments on it so I think I definitely said it incorrectly. I looked it up from multiple sources but, I'll be honest, the concept of the Trinity is a bit confusing. So Jesus is one of 3 aspects of God in the Trinity? All 3 are considered God in the orthodox model, but one is not the other? Is that correct?
It can be a confusing concept, even to Christians. Your last sentences are correct. Jesus is one of the three aspects of God in the Trinity. While each member is God, each aspect does not take on the aspects of the other members. For what it's worth, it took the church almost 500 years to get to this consensus.
+kali mali, what's wrong with you? You forgot Ash, Misty and Brock.
Well said. And the triad of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy.
I feel I want to contribute more in explaining the Trinity, being a devout Catholic myself - who also loves the show and its premise by the way (and your videos too!). I can say Tim Tschida's explanation is sufficient, but I would add that they are not really aspects so much as they are persons. Persons in a sense that they have familial relationships with each other. The Father loves the Son, the Son loves the Father, both (at least in the Catholic tradition) breath out the Holy Spirit out of their love for us. It is that dynamic which makes them separate persons but of the same substance - God.
Several Christians would tell you that that is a bad analogy since that no human analogy can actually explain the Trinity. I agree. People can understand the Trinity if they do study it carefully with an open mind, but people can't really comprehend it. Just as how people can understand pi (or Odin's 200+ names: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_of_Odin) but cannot comprehend it.
The fact that you owned, and corrected your mistakes says a lot. Good job. Love the videos.
Thx for explaining his cell mate character. It's a shame that he only came out in that one episode. Also, I thought the Jinn sex scene was overkill. A bit too graphic. But it was filmed nicely with the special effects.
i always thought the man in the charcoal suit was a reference to lucifer morningstar.
could the man in the charcoal suit be the devil? in sin city? powers of manipulation. and the devils biggest trick is convincing humans he doesnt exist hence why shadow forgets him
That's an interesting theory but it does leave one question, why does Mr Wednesday remember him? Is it because he's a god and Shadow is human?
@@GrimmShadowsII didn't think that far into but yeah that I would imagine that would be the reason Mr Wednesday remembers him. N think about it aswell a charcoal suit? What burns? Charcoal. Who is it that's to burn in eternal damnation? Devil
I think the theory in the video is more likely honesty. I would think the devil would wear either a red suit or a pitch black or coal black suit. Maybe he's suppoesed to be some god thats forgotten or atleast almost forgotten. That would be kind of cool and explain Shadow's lack of memory of him there just enough memory/warship to keep him alive but not enough for him to be reconized or remembered later.
Hey Story Dive. - It was GREAT to watch four of your videos again, very nice, keep going, I want to see and hear season 3 when you do it. Very nice voice narrative too, good job ; b
I don't believe it existed in the novel, but I'm almost certain we'll see Mr. Money in the series, perhaps offering shadow a hefty bribe.
Anyone else reminded of Darkseid when they said New Gods?
I don't think the taxi driver guy stole the other guys clothes an left I think he basically became that guy that why he put his clothes on his sun glasses an got into his cab
But that doesn't explain why is then looking for the jinn.
Vermbraunt he is obsessed with the Jin, the Jin created such an impact on him that he feels he has to see him again, I think he feels love for him, but he is definitely obsessed
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Salim didn't become a Jinn. A Jinn is basically an evolved human being (they were created like humans but got another "DNA"). Salim rubbed that Jinn's bottle and gave him freedom in exchange for a new life.
+Vermbraunt Because he obviously fell in love with him.
What a great video man , you made an excellente job looking for tha footage!! Well done! Tks!
It's too fucking bad that this seriously amazing awe inspired well written and directed series wasn't renewed for season 3 !
Niel Gaimen is one of my favorite authors, second only to Terry Pratchett and I know that Neil Gaimen is someone who loves and respected Terry Pratchett, hell the two worked/wrote together during the final years of Terry Pratchett's life !!
I'm eager to see what Neil puts his hand and name on next !!
What if Dr. Who is a British God.
Bam bam baam! Maybe, who knows.
Rule! Brittania!
*tardis sound in the background* meet tech boy *proceeds to scan him with sonic screwdriver*
hhm was under the impression the clip from the genie movie with Shaq (Shazam) dosn't actually exist outside of the Mandela affect😅
I thought that the Mandala effect in question was with that comedian... uh I can't remember his name now but it's an obvious connection.. oh man what is that dude's name?
Tommy X Lourdes Sinbad
That's Kazaam not shazam
Cool fact the Thunderbird actually existed until rightfully hunted to extinction they had a wingspan of around 14-16 ft and could carry humans off to their deaths
I wish Loki showed up more. The actor does such a good job. He was in virgin suicides years ago as a kid. I don’t think he shows up in the book after the beginning but I hope the show brings him back in Season 4.
9:20 - I'm a Tamil guy and seriously you made me laugh. You sang actually, lol
I had a difficult time doing that part because I kept cracking up.
Can you make a video on the new gods im really curious on your take on Mr. World, " drug use/consumerism and im also curious about what makes shadow moon so special and whether or not hes simply a " prophet" or has ( obviously dilluted) pseudo demigod like traits or w.e basically whats the deal with shadow moon
I think he's just the common man that we relate to and see what's happening through his eyes. It would be harder and make less sense for the story to just be about old gods meeting up to take on new gods, plus it adds the extra layer of giving the new gods someone they can tempt into joining them who's already in the old gods', atleast Mr Wednesday's, confidence.
I'm counting on him being an old god that's forgotten he's a god. Wednesday is recruiting him.
9:20 is officially my favourite moment in the history of youtube
I had to record that part a few times because I kept breaking into laughter.
This is excellent! I'm gonna have to check this show out! As one who is earning a phd on the subject, I must say, your vast knowledge of mythology and connections of archetypes and mythical figures with the characters of the show is impressive! There is a grad school in Santa Barbara, Ca called Pacifica graduate institute that has a masters/phd program called Mythological Studies with an emphasis in depth psychology. If thats a subject your really passionate about, I highly recommend you check it out. you might just love it!
The concept of trinity does not explain Jesus as three separate beings, it says that there is one God that manifests itself into three "persons": the father, the son and the holy ghost. Jesus is the son.
Please don't start this convo, the trinity is just too fucking complicated.
MayBug yup and then there is to deny one is to deny them all
and that is fucking stupid
JLmoodHD i personally dont believe so bc i understand what they mean but many share ur opinion as well
I think that there were more Jesus'es (that sounds wierd lol), because Christianity is about that Jesus will look how people wants him look, everyone sees him differently
When we're considering Mr. Wood and Mr. Stone, might they have a similar relationship to Mr. Town in that the two begot the other? If anything, wood and stone remain very viable, and though we're moving on to steel and other materials, the town leads on to the world. These older gods were sort of formless, but could take on a multitude of forms and thus able to reinvent themselves. Of all the gods, the most ancient and formless seem like they'd be able to adapt more readily.
I think Mr. Town represents the ideal of town or village life. So, he would be "worshipped" every time that some politician referred to "Small Town American Values" and such. But of course, he would be as old as human civilization itself. As for Mr. Wood and Mr. Stone: well, both the timber industry and the mining industry are largely responsible for the growth of America AND both industries are also doing well in the present. New technology and sustainable practices have made timber as a building material prominent again, while the rise of computers has led to demand for minerals previously considered waste (silicon and quartz particularly).
Thanks for the backstories, man. There were a few things in there I didn't know before.
I like how you humbly made corrections. That's noble.
I thought the man in the gray suit was a “Gray Man”, somebody so absolutely average, non-discript, and forgettable in every way that he blends in anywhere and is never noticed or remembered.
If you are talking about the man they meet at Las Vegas, that man was based on the Hindu god Kubera, the god of Wealth and Mind. He has control over money and people's minds...that's why they meet him in Vegas (source of more money) and for the reason his name is forgettable is entirely the author's addition to show his claim over people's minds. He also has a liking to the Vedic drink Soma.
There is a similar deity in the same pantheon called Budha(Planetary deity associated with the day 'Wednesday')
I thought he was Pluto. God of the Underworld and Wealth.
Yeah, but this "gray man" seems to have a supernatural component to his ability to not be remembered because not even gods or other supernatural beings can remember him.
was really hoping for ogun or ellegua. maybe Santeria and all that are the new gods. but then what about African mythological figures? or like Zoroastrianism or w/e. still a cool concept
The showrunners replaced the Caribbean Coming to America story with extra Anansi part.
It's worth mentioning that in any mythology that has the Norns or an equivalent of the Norns, such as the Fates, etc. that all the other immortals in said pantheon are terrified of them. They are potentially the most dangerous of any of the pantheons. In the case of the Norn, not only do they control a person's fate and life, but all of reality itself is potentially at their whim. Other immortals in their pantheons are so afraid of them that they will break their own rules. For instance, it is said that Odin dabbled in the "womanly" art of norse magic or seiðr, which the Norns are the masters of.
This was a great show.. i cant believe i didnt see more of it on here