A Cool Thing I Realized About XC2's Monado Arts - Xenobites

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  • @FercPolo
    @FercPolo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Ontos is 100% Alvis. All the available evidence points to Ontos being Alvis.

    • @ewaldgering6459
      @ewaldgering6459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      This aged gracefully

    • @michaelfissel1357
      @michaelfissel1357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Easy Wait, is Alvice not Ontos?

    • @thequacken3226
      @thequacken3226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@michaelfissel1357 I believe they are referring to the fact that Alvis' redesign in the Definitive Edition pretty much confirmed that he is Ontos. The necklace he wears was changed from a key to the aegis' core crystal.

    • @clova6711
      @clova6711 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This aged like fine wine

  • @BurstFlare
    @BurstFlare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    So out of curiosity, I downloaded the Japanese Voice pack and tried each one of the Monado Driver Arts with the Japanese voices. I found that exactly 6 of the Driver Arts used with the Monado change their names in Japanese, being all four of Morag's arts and Nia's Beam Thrust and Lucent Glance, and even then, they still aren't proper Monado Arts, just Arts that use the Monado. The rest of the Monado Driver Arts literally have the Drivers speaking their English names with their Japanese voices. Which means Nia and Zeke having only one Monado Art and Rex having four is, in fact, intentional.

  • @brandonpierce2539
    @brandonpierce2539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    I never realized the Monado was just a retooled Shield Hammer, that explains why I like Nia's attacks the most with it, I love the way she uses Shield Hammers. ^_^

  • @rocrod430
    @rocrod430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    Imagine a remaster of xenoblade chronicles 1 on the switch but with xenoblade 2 graphics, and how wierd it would be to see the cutscenes in that game but with shulk, fiora, and the rest of the bunch in the art style of shulk and fiora in xenoblade 2
    Edit 11 months later:
    Mother of god I predicted it

    • @perkypears
      @perkypears 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Xenoblade 2 has a pretty unique art style but I think I kind of prefer Xenoblade 1’s art style tbh. A remake of the game where we can see everyone in Xenoblade 2’s art style would be more interesting than just scaling up the graphics or something though

    • @arepic3258
      @arepic3258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      This aged well

    • @izayajones6160
      @izayajones6160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      How do I explain this

    • @tatltails3923
      @tatltails3923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Lemme guess, ya had a vision

    • @Devil-Speed8
      @Devil-Speed8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Wow im convinced u knew ahead of time

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I think the weirdest thing is that shulk just gets zanzas monado because fuck it.

  • @nohobo23
    @nohobo23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Damn, absolutely wild that you have so many theories and monolith decided to just give him the necklace 💀

  • @thomasthecoolkid7228
    @thomasthecoolkid7228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    You forgot to mention how Malos also has Monado Arts as his Blade Arts.

    • @rocrod430
      @rocrod430 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      I feel like he didn't mention that because it's kinda obvious, and it's a "needless to say" thing

    • @BluStreak
      @BluStreak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you look at his blade in that fight it dose share the circle in the middle just like xenoblade 1’s monado

    • @noodle4542
      @noodle4542 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@BluStreak it's not even that it shares the circle and arts.
      Malos' Blade is straight up a Dark Monado so the fact he has Monado Arts goes without saying.

  • @Alferia
    @Alferia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Spoilers
    Ontos is actually thanos.

    • @nitez2730
      @nitez2730 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Ontos: I am inevitable
      Shulk: and I am creating a new world without gods!

    • @MineNAdventurer
      @MineNAdventurer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tonos

    • @willbowden6897
      @willbowden6897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It all makes so much more sense now. The time portal was really just the Conduit all along

    • @MrLee64
      @MrLee64 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooh so am I Asian Ontos?

    • @paulrance5445
      @paulrance5445 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanos is purple tho.

  • @LittleNamMan
    @LittleNamMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Probably also mentioned in the video but I haven't seen it in a while to remember but... Cool irrelevant fact...
    Shulk and Fiora in this DLC is most likely them after the literal end of Xenoblade Chronicles as Shulk literally knows things about the Monado that he didn't have revealed to him until the end (or somewhere towards the end) of the game, coupled with the fact that Fiora is "normal" yet "knows how Poppy feels" (if you get what I mean).

  • @gladiatordragon9219
    @gladiatordragon9219 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Interesting hypothesis, but there may be a bit more to it.
    While Rex has experience with the Aegis Sword, he actually doesn't do anything involving the actual power of the sword. He does what he would normally do with a sword, and nothing changes. We also see that Malos uses Monado Arts as well, specifically calling out "Monado (Buster, Armor, Eater)." We do not see Rex doing this, even when he awakens Pneuma (whose sword has similar elements to the Monados).
    There are several factors which could have changed things.
    1. As Shulk and Rex seem to have a greater bond than the others do, it's possible that Shulk would have taught him a bit more about how the Monado works than he would have done to the other three (4 counting Tora).
    2. Rex would have the most experience with a blade of the Monado's type. While he doesn't have experience with the Monado itself, he knows his way around that specific type of blade, and would be able to dedicate more time to learning the Monado arts than to training with the blade itself.
    3. It's possible that those with some blade connection would be able to handle more of its power. Morag has no special blade connection (and no Monado arts), Nia and Zeke have one Monado art, and Rex (having part of the Aegis's core in his chest, an excellent power absorber) has four. This could be supported by how Zeke and Rex (who are both, Blade Eaters, though Rex is a bit of a technicality) share an art, as they share that aspect of having a core crystal in their human biology.

    • @invenblocker
      @invenblocker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Slight point of contention, but Rex does actually make some use of the Aegis Sword's powers that he didn't with the Broadsword.
      Leaving aside him channeling the power of blade skills such as Glint, Lightspeed Flurry and Flaming Edge, a key difference is the art Rolling Smash.
      With the Broadsword, Rolling Smash is a physical art, while it's an Ether Art on the Aegis Sword, which gives a clear indication that he is indeed channeling power from Pyra and Mythra into the attack.
      In cutscenes we also see him throwing projectile attacks from the Aegis Sword, which is also something he obviously couldn't do with the old Broadsword.

  • @667GameFreak
    @667GameFreak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I had noticed the reason for Morag's arts but not about Rex's arts. Nice deduction.

  • @karihana
    @karihana 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    If you wanna know the jp names of the arts, play the jp dub for some time and you can basically hear them say the arts in Japanese just like in the English dub, except you don't have to decode some Japanese text you can deduce by hearing.

  • @aegisvis3713
    @aegisvis3713 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude your vids are so great and make me think about things differently when it comes to Xenoblade. Good stuff!

  • @Freashplayer
    @Freashplayer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Finch is Ontos.

  • @domicraft6341
    @domicraft6341 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What another cool theory. It's like looking at each little puzzle piece of this much Details. That's why I love this series so much. Xenoblade Games must live on ^^

  • @willbowden6897
    @willbowden6897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Monado plot armor

  • @danielkemp143
    @danielkemp143 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Why does Rex get 4 Monado arts while the other 2 only get 1?
    My answer: Cuz he's the Lead protagonist so get get better privileges.
    (Dont take my answer seriously lol)

  • @domicraft6341
    @domicraft6341 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You could also add that their experience With Blades is the reason why they'rent collapsing Like Dunban. He didn't had the required potencial/power to weild a blade and yet he forced himself using such a powerful one over a long Period of time so instead of nosebleeding he lost his Arm and probably his life if he continued.

    • @louiesatterwhite3885
      @louiesatterwhite3885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's also not the real Monado. The real Monado had Zanza sealed inside it, and if Zanza didn't want you wielding it he'd lash out like a sort of defense system. This Monado is simply an artificial weapon made to resemble it by the archsage.

    • @domicraft6341
      @domicraft6341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@louiesatterwhite3885 yeah makes sense

  • @vr8652
    @vr8652 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    If there's a XC3, borrowing their whole 'medieval' theme they once had, will the next Monado/Aegis be called 'Excalibur'

    • @neeko6061
      @neeko6061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      calibur should be fine
      excalibur seems overused or kinda to mainstream in anygame

    • @io9671
      @io9671 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't Excalibur the sword in the lake and caliber the sword Arthur pulled out of the stone?

    • @noodle4542
      @noodle4542 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@io9671 really it depends on the specific interpretation of Arthur's mythos you're going for-

  • @ivythay4259
    @ivythay4259 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Unless an official statement was made saying otherwise that I don't know about, I still think the crossover is canon.

    • @RefinedSkye
      @RefinedSkye 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm just curious here, but how can you think of it as canon when it contradicts what is confirmed canon?

    • @goggles8691
      @goggles8691 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@RefinedSkye the nopon archsage is canonically a fanfic writer

    • @JP-zb3yb
      @JP-zb3yb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@RefinedSkye its doesnt contradict canon. He is shown to be able to mess with space time. Which means he pulled shulk and fiora different points in the timeline

    • @bandi642
      @bandi642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JP-zb3yb in that case shulk would be freak out about fiora being alive or wondering how they got teleported while dealing with metal face for the first time

    • @JP-zb3yb
      @JP-zb3yb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bandi642 no it would be shulk and fiora both pulled from post xc1 ending. All their quotes indicate that all that stuff has happened for them already

  • @Elite_Teach
    @Elite_Teach 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video

  • @lysanderxx1664
    @lysanderxx1664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But hey, that's just a theory. A game theory!
    Neat find there! I don't think I would have picked up on all this cool info.

  • @slobertooth1358
    @slobertooth1358 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow, that actually makes a ton of sense.

  • @therayleviathan
    @therayleviathan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    First, Xenoblade is best game

    • @Sleiyphnus
      @Sleiyphnus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And another xenoblade is best game

    • @MikeDaddy
      @MikeDaddy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You missed the X

    • @mariotennisman
      @mariotennisman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mother 3 is best game.

    • @tael64
      @tael64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mariotennisman Ahh yes, I see you are a man of culture as well.

    • @oqo3310
      @oqo3310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean,
      *B E S T E S T*

  • @rileyrogers8309
    @rileyrogers8309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If anybody had tried to convince you that Alvis wasn’t Ontos, what a fool they must feel now. You’ve been consistently right for so much 👌

  • @MikeDaddy
    @MikeDaddy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    What if you mod Shulk onto Vandam? I feel like he would have arts just to not make the game crash

    • @Luxin_Xeno
      @Luxin_Xeno  5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I know as a fact he has no arts for normal shield hammers (or any weapon type that isn't dual scythes) so it's super unlikely they'd patch ones in just for a reskin of it

    • @willbowden6897
      @willbowden6897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vandam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @stevered9659
    @stevered9659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That ending tho

  • @jackprime5378
    @jackprime5378 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dig it.

  • @nicorobin3691
    @nicorobin3691 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    you forgot "like, subscribe, bell" at the end

  • @joshuaijaola2145
    @joshuaijaola2145 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Could you make a video on what you want in xbc3?

    • @ShallBePurified
      @ShallBePurified 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      More crying. More depression.

    • @KnightGamer724
      @KnightGamer724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShallBePurified Did you like chapter 5?

  • @allithemeal620
    @allithemeal620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasnt there a big thing about people not being able yo use the monardo. I mean Thats explained through dunban...so why then can cat lady, unlucky tom, the best girl morag, and rex rex use it with out even getting like leg cramps. I feel people forget about that small detail

    • @Gizoid2987
      @Gizoid2987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      because that is not the real monado?
      i feel that it is just some form of replica made by that omnipotent nopon or something like that.

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Partly what Gizoid said, partly I believe because Shulk is acting as an intermediary and "sanitizing" its abilities. Rex as the Matter Driver would need less sanitization to be able to use it, and Morag with no special connection to the blade network, and by extension the Trinity Processor, would require the most.

    • @louiesatterwhite3885
      @louiesatterwhite3885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@angeldude101 it's entirely that its not the real monado. The inability for people to wield the real monado was because of Zanza's will inside of it.

  • @thegawdvegito4260
    @thegawdvegito4260 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its confirmed fact now that he is

  • @jujuthehoms5482
    @jujuthehoms5482 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still wish it was a Big Bang Edge

    • @verylargemandarinslice8965
      @verylargemandarinslice8965 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big bang edge only works on zeke so it’d be difficult for them to make shulk as a blade be multiple weapons depending on the driver

  • @crowakechi6326
    @crowakechi6326 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone explain me how i used sacred arrow inside?

  • @hartfantom
    @hartfantom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:28 wtf happened? Lol like you had a massive malfunction.

  • @seedofwonder
    @seedofwonder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't Alvis say he is part of the system that Klaus used to operate the Conduit? He pre-exists the world of both games and hence pre-exists all three aegises.

    • @theReincarnate
      @theReincarnate ปีที่แล้ว

      the system which operated the conduit was the trinity processor, in which ontos is one part

    • @seedofwonder
      @seedofwonder ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theReincarnate By calling himself the computer, he is more naturally calling himself the Trinity Processor, not a member of the Trinity.

  • @potsandpansexual9298
    @potsandpansexual9298 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fiora and shulk are not from the end of the game because fiora has her long hair

    • @Gizoid2987
      @Gizoid2987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you listen to fiora during battle she clearly states that she had a mechanical body at some time.

    • @potsandpansexual9298
      @potsandpansexual9298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gizoid2987 I stand corrected

    • @bandi642
      @bandi642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the problem is why shulk has monado 1

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bandi642 Because literally fuck it. That is not even a joke, there is no explanation why he would get a replica of zanzas monado and not his own when getting pulled into the challengemode.

  • @ryanepps2183
    @ryanepps2183 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That's funny because I thought poppi busters shield art could be used by any driver? which would make Monado shield not the first art shared by drivers. Fact check me on that I think it's called Inpregnable shield or something

    • @Luxin_Xeno
      @Luxin_Xeno  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Each weapon type has different arts for each driver, but a lot of them have very similar or identical effects across multiple drivers. Both Rex and Zeke have a shielding art with regular shield hammer, but they are different since Rex's is called Iron Wall and Zeke's is called Impregnable Shield. Monado Shield is the only driver art that has the exact same name and effect across multiple drivers.

    • @ryanepps2183
      @ryanepps2183 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Luxin ahhh ok so it was the naming that was identical thanks for the clarification 😁

    • @willbowden6897
      @willbowden6897 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Luxin_Xeno remains undefeated

  • @calebgabrielbantican663
    @calebgabrielbantican663 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who will win
    Rex vs shulk ???

    • @louiesatterwhite3885
      @louiesatterwhite3885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on when you compare them. Rex and Pyra with Shulk having the Monado 1? Shulk. Rex and Mythra with Shulk and Monado 2? Probably an even fight. Rex and Pneuma with Shulk and the Monado 3? Shulk if he is allowed the full godly powers that he had, since it was a pocket dimension, if not then it's probably another stalemate.

  • @smellslikemeltingplastic
    @smellslikemeltingplastic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry but alvis is not a simple driver core. He is the experiment computer given life. Again, he is not just a simple processor but a combination of all.

    • @louiesatterwhite3885
      @louiesatterwhite3885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alvis is the Ontos core of the trinity processor. The reason he was so much more powerful comparitively is because XC1 takes place in a pocket dimension created by the trinity processor and Conduit during the events prior to XC2