I have a conservation education background with the Houston Zoo, and you would not believe (maybe you would) how many people legitimately try to use this rhetoric as a means to reject conservation measures aimed at protecting any species of snake.
I absolutely love when people actually like you Dan have the facts to go against the rhetoric and continued ignorance of people thinking that they know something when they actually don't awesome job keep it going
He is doing something right when you get swaths of evangelical Christians making videos, calling him "woke" and even referring to him as the "devil" while offering nothing to dispute his reasoning and knowledge.
@@paulcleary8088 really? I didn’t know Dan had stirred so much negative attention. Have these evangelicals that make videos about him ever heard of the Streisand effect? 😄
@@pansepot1490 th-cam.com/video/GYIlCk7M51k/w-d-xo.html Here is an example. While there are some defenders, and some respectful comments, there are comments insisting that he must be "cleansed" referring to him as "Korihor" calling him a "Cancer" a "Narcissist," a "False Prophet, "you name it. Never actually refuting any point he makes. This is from believers. You don't really hear this from non-believers because we find his critical look into scripture to be a good thing, regardless of his overall beliefs.
@@pansepot1490: I haven’t even heard of the “Streisand Effect!” Is it when major leaders condemn someone, it makes others want to find out more? Because that’s what happened with Salman Rushdie and his book, *The Satanic Verses*
I was just watching the original when it suddenly switched to "video not available", and have been awaiting the reupload since then. As prophecied, it came back in our lifetime! The only change I can identify is a period where the sound of the original is missing - likely scribal error, not intentional change. The end might have changed, I didn't get to see that before.
While I never refer to the serpent as "Satan" despite Christians insisting that it is, it really doesn't bode well for an omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent God to allow Satan into Eden. It is also important to note that in the story, the serpent doesn't lie and that this God acknowledges this. Either this God is horribly weak to prevent gumming up the works at the very start of creation, or it was his plan all along and he is gaslighting Adam and Eve for doing something they were purposely too ignorant to prevent.
There was only Adam. Adam was naming all of the animals that God was creating! How long was Adam living before the creation of a woman! Genesis 2:18 Then Jehovah God said: “It is not good for the man to continue to be alone. I am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him.” 19 Now Jehovah God had been forming from the ground every wild animal of the field and every flying creature of the heavens, and he began bringing them to the man to see what he would call each one; and whatever the man would call each living creature, that became its name. 20 So the man named all the domestic animals and the flying creatures of the heavens and every wild animal of the field, but for man there was no helper as a complement of him.
Adam's God is a God of Love. Adam loved his bride. Satan murdered Eve. So Adam sacrificed his life for his Bride. Jesus sacrificed his Life for his Bride. John 8:44...That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. 2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ.
@@strappedfatman7858 Just make up whatever interpretation you want...no need for it to be based on evidence. Just go with what sounds right and feels right to you. That's what was done when the bible was compiled anyway.
@Spiritof_76 The Canon Ezra 7:6 This Ezʹra came up from Babylon. He was a copyist* who was well-versed in* the Law of Moses, which Jehovah the God of Israel had given. The king granted everything he requested, for the hand of Jehovah his God was upon him. The expression “Bible canon” came to denote the collection, or list, of books accepted as genuine inspired Scripture. The term “canon” is derived from the Hebrew word qa·nehʹ (reed). Reeds were used as a rule or measuring device. (Eze 41:8) Fittingly, the Bible canon, or catalog of inspired books, enables the reader to “measure” faith, doctrine, and conduct. The canon of the Hebrew Scriptures was established by the end of the fifth century B.C.E. According to Jewish tradition, the skilled scribe and inspired Bible writer Ezra began the work, and it was completed by Nehemiah. (Ezr 7:6, ftn.) The writing of the Christian Greek Scriptures was completed during the time that the gifts of the spirit were operative on Christ’s followers. (Joh 14:26; Re 1:1) Some Christians had the gift of “discernment of inspired expressions.” (1Co 12:10) Thus, they could, without referring the matter to a supposed church council, determine which of the letters the congregation received were inspired of God. With the death of John, the last apostle, this reliable chain of divinely inspired men came to an end. Therefore, with the book of Revelation, John’s Gospel, and his three letters, the Bible canon was closed. The testimony of later, noninspired writers is valuable only as an acknowledgment of the Bible canon, which God’s spirit had guided and authorized.
@Spiritof_76 Do you follow God's Spirit directed world! Revelation 17:17 Bible scholars say a lot. Was the writings of the New Testament written in Aramaic. Was all the letters in Aramaic. Peter and Paul was writing letters to the congregations before the Gospels was even written. The Gospel of John has Jesus dying on a different day. They also say Matthew, Mark, Luke and John didn't right the Gospels. The Gospels came about at the time Peter and Paul and Jerusalem was destroyed by 70 AD. Jesus and the apostles spoke Aramaic. It's because the only commonly circulated manuscripts are in Greek. The strong consensus of modern scholars is that Revelation was not written by either the apostle John nor by the author of John’s Gospel. To distinguish the author, they now refer to him simply as ‘John of Patmos’. Patmos was a Greek island and naturally the book was written in Greek to be read by Greek-speaking Christians. But for the record, this is why when the boy Jesus taught at the Temple in Hebrew translating it into perfect Aramaic that the Rabbis were astounded. This was the first time a boy did what the priests could not do. The four gospels is associated with the four living creatures Matthew the man, Mark the lion, Luke the ox, and John the eagle. John has Jesus dying on a different day. It's the Day of Preparation not the Day of Preparation for Passover. It was the day they prepare the lambs for sacrifice. While at the same time Jesus is prepared for sacrifice. Jesus is the Lamb of YHVH Yehovah Jehovah The Apostle John who was the last Apostle. Who I believed received Revelation was the Q source for the gospels that scholars argue about. John would have been an eyewitness to all.
I received a generic child’s storybook about the fall of man for my (Presbyterian) first communion preparation class . And I was surprised to see the snake identified as Satan -the Bible doesn’t say that the snake was Satan! But I understood that this was some kind of secret sacred knowledge that they now trusted me with at 7. I just accepted it, no questions. That was weird.
Dan has done it AGAIN! This is great timing, I was just thinking about an offhand comment he'd made in another video that the Rev Dragon was the Leviathan, but was hoping for more details, and here they are! I would like a little more info on HOW this happened tho, how exactly did the Leviathan, which doesn't seem to represent "evil" in the OT (I don't think God is even presented as killing it, as with Tiamat, just wrestling with it, maybe even for fun!) came to be identified with evil by the time of the NT. I also wonder if there is some connection between the garden serpent and the bronze serpent created by Moses in the desert for the jews to pray to (didn't that violate the 2nd Commandment, btw?)...Anyway, thanks for the great work, Dan!
As a symbol of primordial Chaos, Leviathan represented _oppositional forces_ in the cosmos (and thus also on the parallel terrestrial plane). Within this framework, we see that it especially came to represent Empire-that wordly power always diametrically opposed to God's underdog people. This is why the prophets rail against their political enemies with such imagery, and the salvation of Israel in Isaiah is promised with God future slaying of Leviathan, freeing them from their tyrannical foes (Isaiah 27), and God's past killing of Leviathan is an appeal to justice against Babylon (Psalm 78; Isaiah 51). Ezekiel uses similar language against the figurehead of empire, Pharaoh, labeling him with the attributes and titles of Leviathan (Ezekiel 29, 32). Because of this, Mark Smith argues that the intentional demythologizing of the Sea in Genesis 1, and the absolute, unresisted mastery over it, is a theological statement meant to give hope to Israel in their oppression under empire: "fear not-God is master of the nations." The writer of Revelation, then, continues the prophetic tradition by using Leviathan for the new pinnacle of wordly Empire: Rome.
Hey Dan. I'm very curious about your thoughts on Adam and Eve's fall. I contend that they are judged unfairly. I mean how can you make an informed decision or resist the serpent, if you can't discern between good and evil? The text clearly says that they couldn't before they ate from the Tree of Knowledge.
God told Adam not to eat from the tree. They did not have to innately know that it was wrong. It was told to Adam. He, however, didn't seem to give Eve the memo
@@conradvd7262 They still need to know right from wrong. The serpent told Eve something else. Why would they now know that it was bad to eat if the fruit. What's worse is that the serpent told the truth, God did not. The story makes sense if we see god as an antagonist, afraid of humans rising to his level. Dan talked about this and it explains why God was afraid Adam and Eve would be afraid they would eat from the tree of life as they then would be gods.
Hello Dan (and everyone!) Awesome video as always! I was just wondering, what is the rhetorical or political goal of identifying the serpent of Eden with Satan? What could apologetics gain from this argument?
Probably them just wanting to connect Old Testament with New Testament to further their usual rhetoric about how this is a "fallen world" and "Jesus is coming". Views means revenue.. 😇😇
It's probably the idea of a snake being able to speak that gets most to believe it HAS to be something more than a serpent. But Genesis is VERY clear it is a "beast of the field."
Hey Dan, really enjoy your content. Thank you. I do have a question, who is your favorite X-man? Wolverine and when Angel became Archangel (love the character design) are mine.
Recently enjoying learning about Manicheism and Valentinianism. A "Platonic and Jungian" take on truth and meaning found in symbols (found in religions) which at times can be better than language (the text) to express spiritual truths. The bias that forms around cultural symbols in texts when re examined objectively may be able to be seen anew in other contexts. Tribalism thru symbol interpretation is what causes inaccurate religious text interpretation which causes division(tribalism). And every tribe thinks they are right..because they are if they define what the symbols mean but..often their conclusions were not as originally intended. Although its very shocking, the serpent that "deceived" Eve told her the truth. like...whoa. And Moses held up the serpent staff....really now. Now this can mean that "truth" may not always be the best course of action (for the now)...but we do know ..truth eventually sets us free. Good video.
I'd like to see you critique Bible Project videos directly. Maybe even debate Dr. Mackey on this. They're doing a whole series on the dragon. While I love BP, Tim and John, I'm having a hard time as to why the serpent is conflated with the dragon.
I second this. I watch BP also and sometimes feel there is a lot of cherry picking or "negotiating" what is hyperbole and what is not. Their explanations of some topic's really seem to sooth the uncomfortableness some of their viewers had with what they thought was perhaps problematic, such as wiping out the Canaanites.
Hey, it's back! What happened to the previous version? Either way, the content is gold. Edit: Seems that the audio had to be taken out in some parts from the quoted (stitched?) video
Sorry about that. The music the original creator had playing in the background caused the earlier version to be demonetized. I removed the audio from one clip to get around that issue.
@@donsample1002 I figured there were tools like that out there, but I don't come close to having the know-how. What would be the easiest one of those tools for me to use?
The author of Genesis (an early Jew) makes it clear that the serpent is one of the beasts of the field, solid enough to be trodden on. The loony Christian author of Revelation does not say that Satan is the serpent in the Garden. Just ancient. Read the goddamned book, people.
I've only been following this channel for a few days. Is it common for you to recommend a book in a video? If so, it might be nice to keep a list of them somewhere we can check.
Occasionally when relevant to the topic he recommends one or more books but I would not say it’s a regular habit. Unfortunately I don’t know of a full list. Did you check the description?
@@pansepot1490 agreed, the description is usually the place for that sort of thing. though, to be fair, I would imagine that dan's primary objective isn't necessarily to go about selling books, so that might not be as high in his priorities - but I could be wrong there.
The Apocrypha includes, but is not limited to, works such as Sirach (Ben Sira), Maccabees, Judith, the book of Enoch, Jubilees, the story of Susanna, and Baruch. There is not one example in the Jewish Scriptures where any angel, Satan included, ever opposes God’s will.
The Bible Project just wrapped up their podcast series on “dragons” in the Bible - and the way earthly rulers are identified with chaos entities. So there are a ton of passages that use “snakey” language to describe earthly dudes
Oh! They get referenced in this video! They definitely don’t directly link the dragon of revelation directly with the snake in Genesis in the podcast, but rather, with leviathan as Dan does here.
The serpent represents the concept of "the desire to have your cake and eat it too". Let me explain, in ancient traditions, the snake is always coming back around to eat it's own tail. This symbol is used to represent the human condition. The mind works like the stomach, the above is like the below, understanding the process of hunger/eating is to understand the process of want/have. After a fasting, the stomach pains for food, you get food, you have food, but you have to eat or "exhaust" food for it to be any good. Therefore you loose food, do not have food and after time passes you will pain in hunger again and this process repeats. Therefore likewise with all matters of conceptual wants and desires, you will want, you will obtain, but no matter what it is, it will exhaust, either from expenditure or by disinterest (it becomes boring), thus the above is like the below. The serpent, a vicious cycle......serpo (the voice)
It's great hearing all these people rabidly studying mythical ideas. I suppose it passes the time. I can think of many more useful pursuits than believing that the Bible is in any way true or even historical. It is literary which is it's only saving grace. Read it by all means, enjoy it but please do not believe in it.
Snake also means Shining One or Glistening One ~ Morning Star. To 'strike at' also means to watch over, guard, or protect. It is the same image we have with Jacob 'striking at' the heel of Esau who serves, watches over, or protects Jacob. David's people set out from Babylon. David is the Morning Star. Jesus rules from his throne and over his kingdom, preserving and restoring it for him. David is your king who will be raised up for you. The king of Babylon, the King of kings is the ruler of this world, wherever man may dwell. Tell me that reads like a historical record. The world is under mind control. They know the Father they spring from is the Devil (Joh 8:44 NABO). They know Satan (Shining One) is the God of this world (2Co 4:4 NAB) They know the ruler of this world has been condemned (Joh 16:11 NABO). They see it, yet, they cannot perceive it; they hear it, yet, the cannot understand it. (Isa 6:9 NABO) Now is the time of judgment on this world; now the ruler of this world will be driven out. (Joh 12:31 NABO) to; Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. (Mat 25:34 NABO) Jesus domain is forever peaceful. The first beast, with seven heads and ten horns is the Red Dragon with seven heads and ten horns. On the day of judgment, when Adam, the Red Dragon, the Christ, wields the fiery sword as the Lawless One, he is given the power and rule, along with great authority of THE Dragon. How else could he judge the world if not with wrath? Otherwise, you have a standard Christian interpretation of THE Dragon giving himself his own power and authority, much like Jesus being seated at his own right hand. Yahweh judged the heavens. Christ judges the earth. Yahweh became the Adversary. Adam becomes the Lawless One. The Adversary, the Ancient Serpent of Old, is Transfigured and revealed as Ancient One of Days seated upon a throne on the Mount of Assembly. Adam wields the fiery sword, is Transfigured, and is revealed as the Christ. The Father is greater than I. Yahweh judged the heavens. Adam had a university of trees to learn from. Further, Adam was not deceived (1Ti 2:14 NAB) Unless you read the Bible as if it a history book and the crucifixion story is a historical record, there is a cogent message being relayed. Warning of the impending Day of the Lord, he was swallowed by the Beast out of the Sea and spewed out upon the shore as the Beast out of the Earth, as the sun beat down upon his head and a burning east wind began the Way of the Lord in the Desert. The way of the Lord in the desert needs to be put into context with the previous passage: Sacrifice - Indeed, she has received from the hand of the LORD double for all her sins. Resurrection - Make straight in the wasteland a highway for our God! (Isa 40:2-3 NABO) Just as it is appointed that human beings die - be judged - appear a second time, so also Christ …will return Heb 9:27-28 …as the (Red) Dragon (Demon Sin) stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. (Rev 12:4 NABO)
“the God themselves” 5:07 ? I’m so confused about the use of plural for God in your statement. Is the only text just confusing and also use the singular God? Is this just a difficulty In translation?
imagine if the serpent is Satan, one would have to analyse those verses stated, decode their meaning, then apply it to fit a serpent. Why wouldnt you just state, its Satan in a form of a snake or possessing a snake. then also all snakes got punished with no legs, for this one talking walking snake? does that mean all the other snakes have consciousness too?
Just wanted to say you should be at a round table to debate with jonathan pageau and jordan peterson. It's great to see your answers or corrections to other videos but there isn't any debate so who is to truly know.
The forbidden fruit story is one of obedience, and you could argue an example of free will. After all, if God didn't want them to eat, He shouldn't have put the tree there in the first place. Put a piece of candy in front of a child and mo matter how many times you say 'no' the child will eat it. So donyou blame the child?
And don't forget that Adam and Eve were just days old, and, importantly, did not have the "knowledge of good and evil", of course they are blameless. I see it more as a play on "pandora's box", where "knowledge" is equated to "troubles and woe" . Pretty damn religious message if you think about it, and I definitely don't see that as positive.
In the Quran there is no snake in the creation story. Also there is no original blame where Adam blames his wife for being the one who ate from the tree and deceived him to do so also. Quran 7:10 We established you in the land and provided you with a means of livelihood there: yet you are seldom thankful 7:11 We created you, then We shaped you and then We said to the angels, Prostrate yourselves before Adam, and they all prostrated themselves, except Satan. He was not among those who prostrated themselves 7:12 God asked, What prevented you from prostrating yourself when I commanded you to? He replied, I am better than he is; You created me from fire, while You created him from clay 7:13 God said, Get down from here! This is no place for your arrogance. Get out! You are contemptible 7:14 Satan said, Give me respite until the Day of Resurrection 7:15 and God replied, You are granted respite 7:16 Then Satan said, Because You have put me in the wrong, I will lie in ambush for them on Your straight path 7:17 then I will surely come upon them from before them and from behind them and from their right and from their left, and then You will find most of them ungrateful 7:18 He said, Get out of here, despised, and rejected! I shall fill Hell with all of those who follow you 7:19 To Adam He said, You and your wife, dwell in the Garden and eat and drink there from wherever you wish, but do not approach this tree, lest you become wrongdoers 7:20 But Satan tempted them so that he might reveal to them their nakedness which had been hidden from them. He said, Your Lord has forbidden you to approach this tree lest you should become angels or become of the immortals 7:21 and he swore to them, Surely, I am your well-wisher 7:22 Thus he cunningly seduced them. When they tasted the trees fruit, their nakedness became exposed to them and they started covering themselves with the leaves of the garden. Their Lord called out to them, Did I not forbid you to approach that tree, and did I not say to you that Satan was surely your open enemy 7:23 They replied, Our Lord, we have wronged our selves: if You do not forgive us and have mercy on us, we shall be among the lost 7:24 He said, Go down from here as enemies to each other. For a while, there is an abode for you and a provision on earth 7:25 There you will live; there you will die; from there you will be raised up again 7:26 O children of Adam! We have sent down to you clothes to cover your nakedness, and to be pleasing to the eye; but the raiment of righteousness is the best. That is one of the signs of God. So that people may take heed 7:27 Children of Adam, do not let Satan seduce you, just as he turned your parents out of the Garden: he deprived them of their garment in order to make them aware of their nakedness. He and his forces watch you from where you do not see them! We have made the devils friends of those who do not believe.
It's like comparing the original Willy Wonka movie with Gene Wilder to the one with Johnny Depp. Both are fictional stories with some of the same fictional characters but many of the events changed from one version to the other. Just like the Bible and the Quran. All four equally fictional.
@@Spiritof_76 The creation story in the Quran of Adam and subsequently our existence here on earth makes more sense and doesn’t make God to be a liar who didn’t even know what happened to Adam and Eve after they ate from the tree wondering what they had done. He had to ask Adam what he did. There is also something to be said why two different creation stories in the Hebrew Bible. What you get in the Quran is a more reasonable and consistent account of the event. In the Quran there is life after death and we are all eligible to return to paradise if we just acknowledge our maker and be good while here on earth. There is no way for you to prove this is all fictional. And there is no way for me to prove that we’ll meet our maker and give account for our deeds. But you’ll find that out when the angel of death comes to you while on your death throes. Quran 50:16 We created man We know the promptings of his soul, and are closer to him than his jugular vein 50:17 and the two recording angels are recording, sitting on the right and the left 50:18 each word he utters shall be noted down by a vigilant guardian 50:19 The trance of death will come revealing the truth: that is what you were trying to escape 50:20 The trumpet will be sounded. This is the Day [you were] warned of 50:21 Each person will arrive attended by an [angel] to drive him on and another to bear witness 50:22 You were heedless of this, but now We have removed your veil, so your sight today is sharp. You can deny it all and scoff at the idea of being resurrected to life again only the future will tell.
@@BenM61 Screw your empty threats. This life after death fiction has been used to control human behavior for long enough. "Let's make some rules and tell everyone to follow them so they can go to Candyland after they die and have sex with a lot of virgins. The gullible will believe it and we'll kill the rest." You are indoctrinated.
We must presume this creator to have no Hebrew, otherwise he would not be making statements about the text that are simply untrue. This is not differing interpretation, it is just wrong. It seems to be an example of confirmation bias. He has almost certainly seen or heard this from someone else and, lacking any information to counter it, has simply believed and been eager to pass it on, as if he knows of what he speaks. In section 2 he looks smug and self satisfied as he listens to and believes a source video, which is itself wrong. It is a shame to see someone so sure and yet so misguided.
God makes man from dust, and woman from bone, snake gets Eve to eat the fruit, snake gets cursed to eat dust, sees man made out of dust and eats him the end.
I've always referred to the same primordial sea monster as "Rahab"...and someone else used the name "Tiamat" to refer to a similar primordial sea monster who similar to Rahab is slaughtered by a deity and its body used to form Pangaea.
I think the thing to remember with these videos is that Dan (or any other scholar for that matter) isn't necessarily telling you what you should or should not believe, but what the scholarly consensus is about what the text says. So not that you'd be wrong or right on whether the serpent was Satan, only that it doesn't follow from the written sources. At least, that is my impression of it.
@@FlyingFox86 exactly. There’s many different ways to read scriptures: the scholarly take is just one. Bible can be read as a piece of literature, or as a source for historical events, or from a linguistic standpoint or, most commonly as a text with theological meaning and inspiration for believers. Unfortunately too many people are not aware of the difference between what a believer can read into the text and what the plain text actually says.
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ. Holman Christian Standard Bible Genesis 3:4 No! You will not die,” the serpent said to the woman.” Is Lying a Righteous Deception or an Unrighteous Deception? We are born into Satan's Kingdom. This is why we need the tree of life. Jesus is the vine the true branch of life to God. Jesus will crush this Kingdom. Eve transgressed against the Law of God. Eve is the mother of everyone living. So in birth pains everyone was born into lawlessness. The cherub angel in charge of the garden of Eden deceived her with an unrighteous deception. This made this cherub angel the ruler of this world. Satan is an Angel of Light By an unrighteous deception she ate the fruit. 2 Thessalonians 2:9 But the lawless one’s presence is by the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders 10 and every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth in order that they might be saved. 11 That is why God lets a deceptive influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Corinthians 2:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness. But their end will be according to their works. 2 Timothy 2:14 Also, Adam was not deceived, but the woman was thoroughly deceived and became a transgressor.
How Satan is fooled! Did Satan know Jehovah God was going to resurrect Jesus from the dead! Even Satan believed " For it is Written" Satan quoted Psalms 91:11-12. Because he thought he knew the future. Lol Matthew 4:5 Then the Devil took him along into the holy city, and he stationed him on the battlement of the temple 6 and said to him: “If you are a son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written: ‘He will give his angels a command concerning you,’ and, ‘They will carry you on their hands, so that you may not strike your foot against a stone.’ 10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” Matthew 27:41 In the same way also, the chief priests with the scribes and the elders began mocking him, saying: 42 “Others he saved; himself he cannot save! He is King of Israel; let him now come down off the torture stake, and we will believe in him. 43 He has put his trust in God; let Him now rescue him if He wants him, for he said, ‘I am God’s Son.’” 46 About the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” 47 At hearing this, some of those standing there began to say: “This man is calling E·liʹjah.” 48 And immediately one of them ran and took a sponge and soaked it in sour wine and put it on a reed and gave it to him to drink. 49 But the rest of them said: “Let him be! Let us see whether E·liʹjah comes to save him.” 50 Again Jesus called out with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit. Jehovah God resurrected Jesus as a life giving spirit! Jesus Christ is the last Adam. 1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
Let's do some word play for fun. If you checkout the word "satan" you get this: "Satan contrary; adversary; enemy; accuser" And if we checkout the word "hail" we get: "to cheer, salute, or greet; welcome. " So satan is more or less something like a title. That means a person saying: "Hail satan" would literally cheer/salute/greet or welcome his/her enemy. So if a person considers himself an enemy to the abrahamic God wouldn't they still salute him by hailing satan since they would consider that God as their enemy? (Of course its not their intent but I find it amusing if you think about it like this.)
You cannot just pick one of the definitions of satan you listed and put it into a phrase and say it validly means what it originally meant. Context gives meanings to words when more than one meaning exists.
Dr. M, I am curious of the usage of Canaanite deities and location in Isa 14:12-13. It seems to me that Isa is comparing the king, to this deity found in Ugaritic material.
Yahweh lied, the serpent spoke the truth. The couple's eyes were opened and they did become as gods, "knowing good and evil " - confirmed by the LORD himself, "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil" and promptly moved to deny him access to the Tree of Life, lest, in his newly acquired godhood, "he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever."
The Apocalypse of Moses eplicitly calls out serpent as Satan. While it did not make the Biblical cut, this idea did seem to be fairly common and influenced tradition not explicitly based on text.
Of course it wasn't Satan. Let the bible speak for itself, the own text says that the serpent was the most cunning animal that the Lord God has created
It can't speak for itself. The Hebrew text consists of consonants only; there are no written vowels. Words without vowels are clearly ambiguous; they could be read in many different ways with altogether differing meanings.
Serpents cannot speak. Obviously someone did speak as coming from the serpent back in the Garden of Eden. We are not left to guess who it was. He is identified in the last book of the Bible. (Revelation 12:9) So down the great dragon was hurled, THE ORIGINAL SERPENT, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
Just so you know, your 666th video is coming up! I, unfortunately, have what seems to be the very beginning of the same forehead bump in nearly exactly the same spot. I'm praying it goes away and a dermatologist visit isn't needed.
@@hive_indicator318- That's a common one, but I think there's one that's even more common: reasoning based on a desired outcome rather than to best match the evidence.
Can you believe this?...............Two grown men arguing about a serpent that can talk. Jesus!........................oops!..................no pun intended.
Who are you talking to?.............................. and why did you pause so long between your boyish comments? This wasn't an argument...................................................... it was a scholar correcting a young, miss informed theist.
What does “woman” really mean in Genesis? Genesis 2:22 says: “And the Lord God built up the rib, which he took from Adam, into a woman. And he led her to Adam.” Then Genesis 2:23: “And Adam said: “Now this is bone from my bones, and flesh from my flesh. This one shall be called woman, because she was taken from man.”” So “woman” means a human being built upon a bone taken from the first man Adam or a human being with breasts and the female reproductive system, as we see it today? Does that mean a woman being a woman has nothing to do with any of her biological features but only because of the fact that she was built upon the bone from a man?
"And the Lord God built the side that He had taken from man into a woman, and He brought her to man." He made her like a building, broad at the bottom and narrow at the top, so that she can carry a fetus, like a storehouse of wheat, which is broad at the bottom and narrow on top, so that its burden should not weigh on its walls.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 Where does it say all these broad and narrow stuffs in the scriptures? I thought Eve only became the woman we see today after she sinned and God modified her body this way to make her bear children this way and then give birth in pain.
This guy should convert to Islam. In there the serpent IS unequivocally the devil, since this interpretation was the original basis for the quranic text.
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ. Holman Christian Standard Bible Genesis 3:4 No! You will not die,” the serpent said to the woman.” Is Lying a Righteous Deception or an Unrighteous Deception? We are born into Satan's Kingdom. This is why we need the tree of life. Jesus is the vine the true branch of life to God. Jesus will crush this Kingdom. Eve transgressed against the Law of God. Eve is the mother of everyone living. So in birth pains everyone was born into lawlessness. The cherub angel in charge of the garden of Eden deceived her with an unrighteous deception. This made this cherub angel the ruler of this world. Satan is an Angel of Light By an unrighteous deception she ate the fruit. 2 Thessalonians 2:9 But the lawless one’s presence is by the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders 10 and every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth in order that they might be saved. 11 That is why God lets a deceptive influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Corinthians 2:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness. But their end will be according to their works. 2 Timothy 2:14 Also, Adam was not deceived, but the woman was thoroughly deceived and became a transgressor.
Adam wasn't deceived. The ground did produce thorns and thistles because Jesus worn the crown of thorns and thistles. God told Adam the prophecy of the resurrection. Genesis 3:15 The Sacrifice of Jesus was the first part of the prophecy of Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will bruise him in the heel.” Satan the Dragon and the Wild Beast the 6th Kingdom executed Jesus on their image the cross. It was the Roman Empire of Italy that is also the shape of the heel. So the first part of the prophecy is complete . Satan bruised Jesus in the heel.
There was only Adam. Adam was naming all of the animals that God was creating! How long was Adam living before the creation of a woman! Genesis 2:18 Then Jehovah God said: “It is not good for the man to continue to be alone. I am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him.” 19 Now Jehovah God had been forming from the ground every wild animal of the field and every flying creature of the heavens, and he began bringing them to the man to see what he would call each one; and whatever the man would call each living creature, that became its name. 20 So the man named all the domestic animals and the flying creatures of the heavens and every wild animal of the field, but for man there was no helper as a complement of him.
Adam's God is a God of Love. Adam loved his bride. Satan murdered Eve. So Adam sacrificed his life for his Bride. Jesus sacrificed his Life for his Bride. John 8:44...That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie.
Jesus rules as King for his God and Father! Jesus is The First and Last! A perfect life for a perfect life. Jesus is the last Adam. New Living Translation Romans 5:14 Still, everyone died-from the time of Adam to the time of Moses-even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol, a representation of Christ, who was yet to come. 1 Corinthians 15:20 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep in death. 21 For since death came through a man, resurrection of the dead also comes through a man. 22 For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each one in his own proper order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence. 24 Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. 26 And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing.
Jesus is the Lamb of The God of Abraham YHVH Yehovah Jehovah Mark 16:8 In the Gospel of Mark. If the women tell no one then, Who is ! What each Gospel story is about. The four living creatures! Matthew Who was! Mark Who is! Luke Who is Coming! John The Lamb of YHVH! The four gospels are associated with the four living creatures: Matthew, the man, Mark the lion, Luke the ox, and John the eagle. John has Jesus dying on a different day. It's the Day of Preparation, not the Day of Preparation for Passover. It was the day they prepared the lambs for sacrifice. While at the same time, Jesus is prepared for sacrifice. Jesus is the Lamb of YHVH Yehovah Jehovah a man, a lion, an ox and an eagle. The man symbolises the prophet; the lion, kingship; the ox, priesthood, and the eagle, fatherhood.
The Hebrew Bible is a technical work. It is difficult to understand even by many Christians. I have challenged McClellan before to show us how good his understanding of the scriptures is by interpreting a given verse. But he didn't. I will list some of those verses again here. Maybe the rest of you who trust his work will offer your interpretation too & help him out. Explain the bold text: "On every lofty mountain and on every high hill there will be streams running with water on the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. *The light of the moon will be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven days,* on the day the Lord binds up the fracture of His people and heals the bruise He has inflicted." Isaiah 30:25-26. "And it will come about in the last days *That the mountain of the house of the Lord Will be established as the chief of the mountains. It will be raised above the hills,* And the peoples will stream to it." Micah 4:1. *“I will make all My mountains a road, And My highways will be raised up.* “Behold, these will come from afar; And lo, these will come from the north and from the west, And these from the land of Sinim.” Isaiah 49:11-12. If you don't understand any random text of the Bible, it probably means you don't understand any of it well!
Your verses are translated, some more than once, from more than one language. There is no reason to accept that these English translations accurately reflect what was intended at the time of the original writing in the original language. These English verses were also obviously written for a poetic effect which may or may not have captured the original meanings.
@@Spiritof_76 The meaning of the text has faithfully been retained. There are a couple of ways we know this. Some of the text has been repeated in the works of different Prophets. For example, Micah 4:1-2 is also written in Isaiah 2:1-2. Secondly, there is no thematic contradiction! The passages I listed above are on the topic of restoration. This same theme is discussed in the works of the other Prophets & the meaning perfectly matches even though different words are used!
@@danieldengL4R That's what you have written, and perhaps what you believe. But plenty of authors have written a series about specific characters and remained more consistent than those who put the bible anthology together. The bible is fiction with a few historic places thrown in, but barely any evidence that any of it is true or based on anything that really happened. That's not even including the obvious fairy tales/mythology it contains. And it also doesn't address the mistranslation of the original words.
@@Spiritof_76 Well, there is only one way. All roads lead to God. Just rejecting Him won't help you at all. Here is what the Prophet wrote: "Men will come to Him, And all who were angry at Him will be put to shame." Isaiah 45:24. All men go to God after this life. So God is unavoidable!
@danieldengL4R all roads lead to many gods, not just the christian gods. That's an undeniable fact due to the sheer millions of gods worshipped by men throughout recorded human history. Thus proving your bible wrong. Your bible and what you have quoted also demonstate the christian gods to be petty, hateful, emotionally unstable and morally depraved. They behave the same as the men that created them in their own petty, spiteful, weak, tantrum throwing image. Choose better gods.
I have a conservation education background with the Houston Zoo, and you would not believe (maybe you would) how many people legitimately try to use this rhetoric as a means to reject conservation measures aimed at protecting any species of snake.
I absolutely love when people actually like you Dan have the facts to go against the rhetoric and continued ignorance of people thinking that they know something when they actually don't awesome job keep it going
He is doing something right when you get swaths of evangelical Christians making videos, calling him "woke" and even referring to him as the "devil" while offering nothing to dispute his reasoning and knowledge.
@@paulcleary8088 really? I didn’t know Dan had stirred so much negative attention. Have these evangelicals that make videos about him ever heard of the Streisand effect? 😄
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Here is an example. While there are some defenders, and some respectful comments, there are comments insisting that he must be "cleansed" referring to him as "Korihor" calling him a "Cancer" a "Narcissist," a "False Prophet, "you name it. Never actually refuting any point he makes. This is from believers.
You don't really hear this from non-believers because we find his critical look into scripture to be a good thing, regardless of his overall beliefs.
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I haven’t even heard of the “Streisand Effect!”
Is it when major leaders condemn someone, it makes others want to find out more? Because that’s what happened with Salman Rushdie and his book, *The Satanic Verses*
@@paulcleary8088Because they don't have anything to offer other than sensationalism and "nuh uh!"
I was just watching the original when it suddenly switched to "video not available", and have been awaiting the reupload since then. As prophecied, it came back in our lifetime!
The only change I can identify is a period where the sound of the original is missing - likely scribal error, not intentional change. The end might have changed, I didn't get to see that before.
I believe it might be divine intervention on the behalf of the original scribes of the psalms that the original author used in their video.
While I never refer to the serpent as "Satan" despite Christians insisting that it is, it really doesn't bode well for an omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent God to allow Satan into Eden.
It is also important to note that in the story, the serpent doesn't lie and that this God acknowledges this.
Either this God is horribly weak to prevent gumming up the works at the very start of creation, or it was his plan all along and he is gaslighting Adam and Eve for doing something they were purposely too ignorant to prevent.
There was only Adam. Adam was naming all of the animals that God was creating! How long was Adam living before the creation of a woman! Genesis 2:18 Then Jehovah God said: “It is not good for the man to continue to be alone. I am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him.” 19 Now Jehovah God had been forming from the ground every wild animal of the field and every flying creature of the heavens, and he began bringing them to the man to see what he would call each one; and whatever the man would call each living creature, that became its name. 20 So the man named all the domestic animals and the flying creatures of the heavens and every wild animal of the field, but for man there was no helper as a complement of him.
Adam's God is a God of Love. Adam loved his bride. Satan murdered Eve. So Adam sacrificed his life for his Bride. Jesus sacrificed his Life for his Bride. John 8:44...That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie.
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ.
@@strappedfatman7858 Just make up whatever interpretation you want...no need for it to be based on evidence. Just go with what sounds right and feels right to you. That's what was done when the bible was compiled anyway.
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The Canon
Ezra 7:6 This Ezʹra came up from Babylon. He was a copyist* who was well-versed in* the Law of Moses, which Jehovah the God of Israel had given. The king granted everything he requested, for the hand of Jehovah his God was upon him.
The expression “Bible canon” came to denote the collection, or list, of books accepted as genuine inspired Scripture. The term “canon” is derived from the Hebrew word qa·nehʹ (reed). Reeds were used as a rule or measuring device. (Eze 41:8) Fittingly, the Bible canon, or catalog of inspired books, enables the reader to “measure” faith, doctrine, and conduct. The canon of the Hebrew Scriptures was established by the end of the fifth century B.C.E. According to Jewish tradition, the skilled scribe and inspired Bible writer Ezra began the work, and it was completed by Nehemiah. (Ezr 7:6, ftn.) The writing of the Christian Greek Scriptures was completed during the time that the gifts of the spirit were operative on Christ’s followers. (Joh 14:26; Re 1:1) Some Christians had the gift of “discernment of inspired expressions.” (1Co 12:10) Thus, they could, without referring the matter to a supposed church council, determine which of the letters the congregation received were inspired of God. With the death of John, the last apostle, this reliable chain of divinely inspired men came to an end. Therefore, with the book of Revelation, John’s Gospel, and his three letters, the Bible canon was closed. The testimony of later, noninspired writers is valuable only as an acknowledgment of the Bible canon, which God’s spirit had guided and authorized.
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Do you follow God's Spirit directed world! Revelation 17:17
Bible scholars say a lot.
Was the writings of the New Testament written in Aramaic. Was all the letters in Aramaic. Peter and Paul was writing letters to the congregations before the Gospels was even written. The Gospel of John has Jesus dying on a different day. They also say Matthew, Mark, Luke and John didn't right the Gospels. The Gospels came about at the time Peter and Paul and Jerusalem was destroyed by 70 AD. Jesus and the apostles spoke Aramaic.
It's because the only commonly circulated manuscripts are in Greek. The strong consensus of modern scholars is that Revelation was not written by either the apostle John nor by the author of John’s Gospel. To distinguish the author, they now refer to him simply as ‘John of Patmos’. Patmos was a Greek island and naturally the book was written in Greek to be read by Greek-speaking Christians.
But for the record, this is why when the boy Jesus taught at the Temple in Hebrew translating it into perfect Aramaic that the Rabbis were astounded. This was the first time a boy did what the priests could not do.
The four gospels is associated with the four living creatures Matthew the man, Mark the lion, Luke the ox, and John the eagle.
John has Jesus dying on a different day. It's the Day of Preparation not the Day of Preparation for Passover.
It was the day they prepare the lambs for sacrifice. While at the same time Jesus is prepared for sacrifice. Jesus is the Lamb of YHVH Yehovah Jehovah
The Apostle John who was the last Apostle. Who I believed received Revelation was the Q source for the gospels that scholars argue about. John would have been an eyewitness to all.
Amazing how some believers can pontificate authoritatively about a book they comprehensively misunderstand.
The book God’s Monsters by Esther Hamori is fantastic, thank you Dan for the reference.
I'm hoping to read this and God: An Anatomy by Francesca Stavrakopoulou, soon.
Bro...I appreciate your work and your humor!
You rock Dan 💪
I received a generic child’s storybook about the fall of man for my (Presbyterian) first communion preparation class . And I was surprised to see the snake identified as Satan -the Bible doesn’t say that the snake was Satan! But I understood that this was some kind of secret sacred knowledge that they now trusted me with at 7. I just accepted it, no questions. That was weird.
Dan has done it AGAIN! This is great timing, I was just thinking about an offhand comment he'd made in another video that the Rev Dragon was the Leviathan, but was hoping for more details, and here they are! I would like a little more info on HOW this happened tho, how exactly did the Leviathan, which doesn't seem to represent "evil" in the OT (I don't think God is even presented as killing it, as with Tiamat, just wrestling with it, maybe even for fun!) came to be identified with evil by the time of the NT. I also wonder if there is some connection between the garden serpent and the bronze serpent created by Moses in the desert for the jews to pray to (didn't that violate the 2nd Commandment, btw?)...Anyway, thanks for the great work, Dan!
As a symbol of primordial Chaos, Leviathan represented _oppositional forces_ in the cosmos (and thus also on the parallel terrestrial plane). Within this framework, we see that it especially came to represent Empire-that wordly power always diametrically opposed to God's underdog people. This is why the prophets rail against their political enemies with such imagery, and the salvation of Israel in Isaiah is promised with God future slaying of Leviathan, freeing them from their tyrannical foes (Isaiah 27), and God's past killing of Leviathan is an appeal to justice against Babylon (Psalm 78; Isaiah 51). Ezekiel uses similar language against the figurehead of empire, Pharaoh, labeling him with the attributes and titles of Leviathan (Ezekiel 29, 32). Because of this, Mark Smith argues that the intentional demythologizing of the Sea in Genesis 1, and the absolute, unresisted mastery over it, is a theological statement meant to give hope to Israel in their oppression under empire: "fear not-God is master of the nations." The writer of Revelation, then, continues the prophetic tradition by using Leviathan for the new pinnacle of wordly Empire: Rome.
Hey Dan. I'm very curious about your thoughts on Adam and Eve's fall. I contend that they are judged unfairly. I mean how can you make an informed decision or resist the serpent, if you can't discern between good and evil? The text clearly says that they couldn't before they ate from the Tree of Knowledge.
God told Adam not to eat from the tree. They did not have to innately know that it was wrong. It was told to Adam. He, however, didn't seem to give Eve the memo
@@conradvd7262 They still need to know right from wrong. The serpent told Eve something else. Why would they now know that it was bad to eat if the fruit. What's worse is that the serpent told the truth, God did not. The story makes sense if we see god as an antagonist, afraid of humans rising to his level. Dan talked about this and it explains why God was afraid Adam and Eve would be afraid they would eat from the tree of life as they then would be gods.
Loved this!
Hello Dan (and everyone!) Awesome video as always! I was just wondering, what is the rhetorical or political goal of identifying the serpent of Eden with Satan? What could apologetics gain from this argument?
Probably them just wanting to connect Old Testament with New Testament to further their usual rhetoric about how this is a "fallen world" and "Jesus is coming".
Views means revenue.. 😇😇
Best question ever
It's probably the idea of a snake being able to speak that gets most to believe it HAS to be something more than a serpent. But Genesis is VERY clear it is a "beast of the field."
Also, the snake in Genesis was clearly just a snake, since it's the reason that God cursed all snakes to crawl in their bellies.
I think a more important question is how did little red riding hood think that an anthropomorphic talking wolf was her grandmother.
You'd prolly have to ask Charles Perrault.
Hey Dan, really enjoy your content. Thank you. I do have a question, who is your favorite X-man? Wolverine and when Angel became Archangel (love the character design) are mine.
I think one of the coolest things about that is that he is a comic book van to just awesome
In a live stream the other day he said it was wolverine!!!
@@37kj12 a man with taste. Thank you.
In short, "NO!".
God's Monsters is an incredible book!
Bald-faced Dan is a bit startling
Recently enjoying learning about Manicheism and Valentinianism. A "Platonic and Jungian" take on truth and meaning found in symbols (found in religions) which at times can be better than language (the text) to express spiritual truths. The bias that forms around cultural symbols in texts when re examined objectively may be able to be seen anew in other contexts. Tribalism thru symbol interpretation is what causes inaccurate religious text interpretation which causes division(tribalism). And every tribe thinks they are right..because they are if they define what the symbols mean but..often their conclusions were not as originally intended. Although its very shocking, the serpent that "deceived" Eve told her the truth. like...whoa. And Moses held up the serpent staff....really now. Now this can mean that "truth" may not always be the best course of action (for the now)...but we do know ..truth eventually sets us free. Good video.
The serpent? No, he's a telemarketer...
I'd like to see you critique Bible Project videos directly. Maybe even debate Dr. Mackey on this. They're doing a whole series on the dragon. While I love BP, Tim and John, I'm having a hard time as to why the serpent is conflated with the dragon.
I second this. I watch BP also and sometimes feel there is a lot of cherry picking or "negotiating" what is hyperbole and what is not. Their explanations of some topic's really seem to sooth the uncomfortableness some of their viewers had with what they thought was perhaps problematic, such as wiping out the Canaanites.
Hey, it's back! What happened to the previous version? Either way, the content is gold.
Edit: Seems that the audio had to be taken out in some parts from the quoted (stitched?) video
Same question!
The error TH-cam gave me said, "This video has been removed by its creator."
Sorry about that. The music the original creator had playing in the background caused the earlier version to be demonetized. I removed the audio from one clip to get around that issue.
@@maklelanThere are editing tools that can isolate vocal and musical components of audio to get around that sort of thing.
@@donsample1002 I figured there were tools like that out there, but I don't come close to having the know-how. What would be the easiest one of those tools for me to use?
No quarter! Bruh, you so gangsta!
The author of Genesis (an early Jew) makes it clear that the serpent is one of the beasts of the field, solid enough to be trodden on. The loony Christian author of Revelation does not say that Satan is the serpent in the Garden. Just ancient. Read the goddamned book, people.
I've only been following this channel for a few days. Is it common for you to recommend a book in a video? If so, it might be nice to keep a list of them somewhere we can check.
Occasionally when relevant to the topic he recommends one or more books but I would not say it’s a regular habit. Unfortunately I don’t know of a full list. Did you check the description?
@@pansepot1490 agreed, the description is usually the place for that sort of thing. though, to be fair, I would imagine that dan's primary objective isn't necessarily to go about selling books, so that might not be as high in his priorities - but I could be wrong there.
MindShift has a video of 25 books that he recommends. He is also doing a video series on God: An Anatomy that is worth looking into.
I have it from good sources (ie some dude on the internet) that Leviathan in the Bible is referencing dinosaurs, which coexisted with mankind.
Dan, can you do some really long form episodes? Something like documentaries.
The Apocrypha includes, but is not limited to, works such as Sirach (Ben Sira), Maccabees, Judith, the book of Enoch, Jubilees, the story of Susanna, and Baruch. There is not one example in the Jewish Scriptures where any angel, Satan included, ever opposes God’s will.
The Bible Project just wrapped up their podcast series on “dragons” in the Bible - and the way earthly rulers are identified with chaos entities. So there are a ton of passages that use “snakey” language to describe earthly dudes
Oh! They get referenced in this video! They definitely don’t directly link the dragon of revelation directly with the snake in Genesis in the podcast, but rather, with leviathan as Dan does here.
The serpent represents the concept of "the desire to have your cake and eat it too". Let me explain, in ancient traditions, the snake is always coming back around to eat it's own tail. This symbol is used to represent the human condition. The mind works like the stomach, the above is like the below, understanding the process of hunger/eating is to understand the process of want/have. After a fasting, the stomach pains for food, you get food, you have food, but you have to eat or "exhaust" food for it to be any good. Therefore you loose food, do not have food and after time passes you will pain in hunger again and this process repeats. Therefore likewise with all matters of conceptual wants and desires, you will want, you will obtain, but no matter what it is, it will exhaust, either from expenditure or by disinterest (it becomes boring), thus the above is like the below. The serpent, a vicious cycle......serpo (the voice)
It's great hearing all these people rabidly studying mythical ideas. I suppose it passes the time. I can think of many more useful pursuits than believing that the Bible is in any way true or even historical. It is literary which is it's only saving grace. Read it by all means, enjoy it but please do not believe in it.
Have you made any videos or in any way commented on Elaine Pagels's book of the idea of Satan?
Would you ever consider putting a playlist together where you give a reading recommendation?
The serpent story reminds me of Jacobs story.
Snake also means Shining One or Glistening One ~ Morning Star. To 'strike at' also means to watch over, guard, or protect. It is the same image we have with Jacob 'striking at' the heel of Esau who serves, watches over, or protects Jacob.
David's people set out from Babylon. David is the Morning Star. Jesus rules from his throne and over his kingdom, preserving and restoring it for him. David is your king who will be raised up for you. The king of Babylon, the King of kings is the ruler of this world, wherever man may dwell. Tell me that reads like a historical record.
The world is under mind control. They know the Father they spring from is the Devil (Joh 8:44 NABO). They know Satan (Shining One) is the God of this world (2Co 4:4 NAB) They know the ruler of this world has been condemned (Joh 16:11 NABO). They see it, yet, they cannot perceive it; they hear it, yet, the cannot understand it. (Isa 6:9 NABO)
Now is the time of judgment on this world; now the ruler of this world will be driven out. (Joh 12:31 NABO) to; Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. (Mat 25:34 NABO) Jesus domain is forever peaceful.
The first beast, with seven heads and ten horns is the Red Dragon with seven heads and ten horns. On the day of judgment, when Adam, the Red Dragon, the Christ, wields the fiery sword as the Lawless One, he is given the power and rule, along with great authority of THE Dragon. How else could he judge the world if not with wrath?
Otherwise, you have a standard Christian interpretation of THE Dragon giving himself his own power and authority, much like Jesus being seated at his own right hand.
Yahweh judged the heavens. Christ judges the earth. Yahweh became the Adversary. Adam becomes the Lawless One. The Adversary, the Ancient Serpent of Old, is Transfigured and revealed as Ancient One of Days seated upon a throne on the Mount of Assembly. Adam wields the fiery sword, is Transfigured, and is revealed as the Christ.
The Father is greater than I. Yahweh judged the heavens. Adam had a university of trees to learn from. Further, Adam was not deceived (1Ti 2:14 NAB)
Unless you read the Bible as if it a history book and the crucifixion story is a historical record, there is a cogent message being relayed.
Warning of the impending Day of the Lord, he was swallowed by the Beast out of the Sea and spewed out upon the shore as the Beast out of the Earth, as the sun beat down upon his head and a burning east wind began the Way of the Lord in the Desert.
The way of the Lord in the desert needs to be put into context with the previous passage:
Sacrifice - Indeed, she has received from the hand of the LORD double for all her sins.
Resurrection - Make straight in the wasteland a highway for our God! (Isa 40:2-3 NABO)
Just as it is appointed that human beings die - be judged - appear a second time, so also Christ …will return Heb 9:27-28 …as the (Red) Dragon (Demon Sin) stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. (Rev 12:4 NABO)
Ezekiel 28 sounds like an alternative tradition. I wonder if it is from Tyre.
Is there an astronomical connection to the passage about falling stars?
Isn't a seraph just a ball of sunlight covering itself with its six wings so that it doesn't burn you to death with its light?
Dan what are your thoughts on the sabbath day ?
“the God themselves” 5:07 ? I’m so confused about the use of plural for God in your statement. Is the only text just confusing and also use the singular God? Is this just a difficulty In translation?
THERE IS NO SPEAKING SNAKE IN THE WHOLE PLANET. SO FUNNY.😂😂😂
volume levels grossly inconsistent.
Nice T-shirt but weird silence
Apparently there was copyrighted background music in that section, so he muted that section and reuploaded.
imagine if the serpent is Satan, one would have to analyse those verses stated, decode their meaning, then apply it to fit a serpent. Why wouldnt you just state, its Satan in a form of a snake or possessing a snake. then also all snakes got punished with no legs, for this one talking walking snake? does that mean all the other snakes have consciousness too?
If it was Satan, how come he isn't just represented as a limbless snake all of the time?
I have watched this video multiple times. Does it address whether or not the serpent in the garden is satan?
But then Jesus tells his disciples...Matt 10: 16 "Be ye therefore wise as serpents." so smart as Satan??
Except Satan isn't a serpent.
Just wanted to say you should be at a round table to debate with jonathan pageau and jordan peterson. It's great to see your answers or corrections to other videos but there isn't any debate so who is to truly know.
Jordan Peterson is not a biblical scholar, though.
Was Eve Adam's first wife or second?
The forbidden fruit story is one of obedience, and you could argue an example of free will.
After all, if God didn't want them to eat, He shouldn't have put the tree there in the first place.
Put a piece of candy in front of a child and mo matter how many times you say 'no' the child will eat it. So donyou blame the child?
And don't forget that Adam and Eve were just days old, and, importantly, did not have the "knowledge of good and evil", of course they are blameless. I see it more as a play on "pandora's box", where "knowledge" is equated to "troubles and woe" . Pretty damn religious message if you think about it, and I definitely don't see that as positive.
Of course, didn't you read the recapitulation of that symbol in Revelation 12?
In the Quran there is no snake in the creation story. Also there is no original blame where Adam blames his wife for being the one who ate from the tree and deceived him to do so also.
Quran 7:10 We established you in the land and provided you with a means of livelihood there: yet you are seldom thankful
7:11 We created you, then We shaped you and then We said to the angels, Prostrate yourselves before Adam, and they all prostrated themselves, except Satan. He was not among those who prostrated themselves
7:12 God asked, What prevented you from prostrating yourself when I commanded you to? He replied, I am better than he is; You created me from fire, while You created him from clay
7:13 God said, Get down from here! This is no place for your arrogance. Get out! You are contemptible
7:14 Satan said, Give me respite until the Day of Resurrection
7:15 and God replied, You are granted respite
7:16 Then Satan said, Because You have put me in the wrong, I will lie in ambush for them on Your straight path
7:17 then I will surely come upon them from before them and from behind them and from their right and from their left, and then You will find most of them ungrateful
7:18 He said, Get out of here, despised, and rejected! I shall fill Hell with all of those who follow you
7:19 To Adam He said, You and your wife, dwell in the Garden and eat and drink there from wherever you wish, but do not approach this tree, lest you become wrongdoers
7:20 But Satan tempted them so that he might reveal to them their nakedness which had been hidden from them. He said, Your Lord has forbidden you to approach this tree lest you should become angels or become of the immortals
7:21 and he swore to them, Surely, I am your well-wisher
7:22 Thus he cunningly seduced them. When they tasted the trees fruit, their nakedness became exposed to them and they started covering themselves with the leaves of the garden. Their Lord called out to them, Did I not forbid you to approach that tree, and did I not say to you that Satan was surely your open enemy
7:23 They replied, Our Lord, we have wronged our selves: if You do not forgive us and have mercy on us, we shall be among the lost
7:24 He said, Go down from here as enemies to each other. For a while, there is an abode for you and a provision on earth
7:25 There you will live; there you will die; from there you will be raised up again
7:26 O children of Adam! We have sent down to you clothes to cover your nakedness, and to be pleasing to the eye; but the raiment of righteousness is the best. That is one of the signs of God. So that people may take heed
7:27 Children of Adam, do not let Satan seduce you, just as he turned your parents out of the Garden: he deprived them of their garment in order to make them aware of their nakedness. He and his forces watch you from where you do not see them! We have made the devils friends of those who do not believe.
It's like comparing the original Willy Wonka movie with Gene Wilder to the one with Johnny Depp. Both are fictional stories with some of the same fictional characters but many of the events changed from one version to the other. Just like the Bible and the Quran. All four equally fictional.
@@Spiritof_76 The creation story in the Quran of Adam and subsequently our existence here on earth makes more sense and doesn’t make God to be a liar who didn’t even know what happened to Adam and Eve after they ate from the tree wondering what they had done. He had to ask Adam what he did. There is also something to be said why two different creation stories in the Hebrew Bible. What you get in the Quran is a more reasonable and consistent account of the event. In the Quran there is life after death and we are all eligible to return to paradise if we just acknowledge our maker and be good while here on earth. There is no way for you to prove this is all fictional. And there is no way for me to prove that we’ll meet our maker and give account for our deeds. But you’ll find that out when the angel of death comes to you while on your death throes.
Quran 50:16 We created man We know the promptings of his soul, and are closer to him than his jugular vein
50:17 and the two recording angels are recording, sitting on the right and the left
50:18 each word he utters shall be noted down by a vigilant guardian
50:19 The trance of death will come revealing the truth: that is what you were trying to escape
50:20 The trumpet will be sounded. This is the Day [you were] warned of
50:21 Each person will arrive attended by an [angel] to drive him on and another to bear witness
50:22 You were heedless of this, but now We have removed your veil, so your sight today is sharp.
You can deny it all and scoff at the idea of being resurrected to life again only the future will tell.
@@BenM61 That fantasy of a man alone in a cave.
@@BenM61 Screw your empty threats. This life after death fiction has been used to control human behavior for long enough. "Let's make some rules and tell everyone to follow them so they can go to Candyland after they die and have sex with a lot of virgins. The gullible will believe it and we'll kill the rest." You are indoctrinated.
If your theory sounds like an arc from a bad season of the series "Supernatural", you should think hard before you post it as Bible fact.
I couldn't put the book down
We must presume this creator to have no Hebrew, otherwise he would not be making statements about the text that are simply untrue. This is not differing interpretation, it is just wrong. It seems to be an example of confirmation bias. He has almost certainly seen or heard this from someone else and, lacking any information to counter it, has simply believed and been eager to pass it on, as if he knows of what he speaks.
In section 2 he looks smug and self satisfied as he listens to and believes a source video, which is itself wrong. It is a shame to see someone so sure and yet so misguided.
God makes man from dust, and woman from bone, snake gets Eve to eat the fruit, snake gets cursed to eat dust, sees man made out of dust and eats him the end.
Hahaha, a talking snake. Too funny
Dr Dan, Hi I want to ask if there is a possibly that all this battles with Leviathan was appropriated from Bhaal stories? Replacing Bhaal with Yhwe?
I've always referred to the same primordial sea monster as "Rahab"...and someone else used the name "Tiamat" to refer to a similar primordial sea monster who similar to Rahab is slaughtered by a deity and its body used to form Pangaea.
YHWH, E is not part of the Tetragrammaton
Dans so sassy haha!
It's a story.
You can make up anything you want.
Grow the f up and face reality.
The serpent is not Satan. But I like to think as it is. After all, Satan likes to ask: "are you sure?"
I think the thing to remember with these videos is that Dan (or any other scholar for that matter) isn't necessarily telling you what you should or should not believe, but what the scholarly consensus is about what the text says.
So not that you'd be wrong or right on whether the serpent was Satan, only that it doesn't follow from the written sources.
At least, that is my impression of it.
@@FlyingFox86 exactly. There’s many different ways to read scriptures: the scholarly take is just one. Bible can be read as a piece of literature, or as a source for historical events, or from a linguistic standpoint or, most commonly as a text with theological meaning and inspiration for believers.
Unfortunately too many people are not aware of the difference between what a believer can read into the text and what the plain text actually says.
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ.
Holman Christian Standard Bible Genesis 3:4 No! You will not die,” the serpent said to the woman.”
Is Lying a Righteous Deception or an Unrighteous Deception?
We are born into Satan's Kingdom. This is why we need the tree of life. Jesus is the vine the true branch of life to God. Jesus will crush this Kingdom.
Eve transgressed against the Law of God. Eve is the mother of everyone living. So in birth pains everyone was born into lawlessness. The cherub angel in charge of the garden of Eden deceived her with an unrighteous deception. This made this cherub angel the ruler of this world.
Satan is an Angel of Light
By an unrighteous deception she ate the fruit.
2 Thessalonians 2:9 But the lawless one’s presence is by the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders 10 and every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth in order that they might be saved. 11 That is why God lets a deceptive influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Corinthians 2:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness. But their end will be according to their works.
2 Timothy 2:14 Also, Adam was not deceived, but the woman was thoroughly deceived and became a transgressor.
"After all, Satan likes to ask: 'are you sure?'"
Does he, though? Sounds like you know him so much better than everybody else.
How Satan is fooled!
Did Satan know Jehovah God was going to resurrect Jesus from the dead!
Even Satan believed " For it is Written" Satan quoted Psalms 91:11-12. Because he thought he knew the future. Lol
Matthew 4:5 Then the Devil took him along into the holy city, and he stationed him on the battlement of the temple 6 and said to him: “If you are a son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written: ‘He will give his angels a command concerning you,’ and, ‘They will carry you on their hands, so that you may not strike your foot against a stone.’
10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”
Matthew 27:41 In the same way also, the chief priests with the scribes and the elders began mocking him, saying: 42 “Others he saved; himself he cannot save! He is King of Israel; let him now come down off the torture stake, and we will believe in him. 43 He has put his trust in God; let Him now rescue him if He wants him, for he said, ‘I am God’s Son.’”
46 About the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” 47 At hearing this, some of those standing there began to say: “This man is calling E·liʹjah.” 48 And immediately one of them ran and took a sponge and soaked it in sour wine and put it on a reed and gave it to him to drink. 49 But the rest of them said: “Let him be! Let us see whether E·liʹjah comes to save him.” 50 Again Jesus called out with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit.
Jehovah God resurrected Jesus as a life giving spirit! Jesus Christ is the last Adam. 1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
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Bald-faced Dan
Let's do some word play for fun.
If you checkout the word "satan" you get this:
"Satan
contrary; adversary; enemy; accuser"
And if we checkout the word "hail" we get:
"to cheer, salute, or greet; welcome. "
So satan is more or less something like a title. That means a person saying:
"Hail satan" would literally cheer/salute/greet or welcome his/her enemy. So if a person considers himself an enemy to the abrahamic God wouldn't they still salute him by hailing satan since they would consider that God as their enemy?
(Of course its not their intent but I find it amusing if you think about it like this.)
You cannot just pick one of the definitions of satan you listed and put it into a phrase and say it validly means what it originally meant. Context gives meanings to words when more than one meaning exists.
@@Spiritof_76
That's why my very first sentence was:
"Let's do some word play for fun."
Dr. M, I am curious of the usage of Canaanite deities and location in Isa 14:12-13. It seems to me that Isa is comparing the king, to this deity found in Ugaritic material.
athtar, yes. isaiah names baal's mountain, tsafon.
@arachnophilia427 thought so, Sahar and El as well. Definitely reminiscent of the Baal Cycle. Not sure why this isn't common knowledge at this point.
Yahweh lied, the serpent spoke the truth. The couple's eyes were opened and they did become as gods, "knowing good and evil " - confirmed by the LORD himself, "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil" and promptly moved to deny him access to the Tree of Life, lest, in his newly acquired godhood, "he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever."
Maybe it was god or jesus?
Does the book of genesis hint Adam and Eve would have lived for ever they had never eaten the fruit.
Moses made a bronze serpent in the wilderness
I can only assume that these creators have been taught this nonsense at fringe churches or colleges and then parrot it online.
The Apocalypse of Moses eplicitly calls out serpent as Satan. While it did not make the Biblical cut, this idea did seem to be fairly common and influenced tradition not explicitly based on text.
That is true, is also could be an attempted Retcon. Will check it out.
But the serpent in the garden was never originally Satan. Serpents were a common motif in myths from the ancient Near East.
Of course it wasn't Satan. Let the bible speak for itself, the own text says that the serpent was the most cunning animal that the Lord God has created
It can't speak for itself. The Hebrew text consists of consonants only; there are no written vowels. Words without vowels are clearly ambiguous; they could be read in many different ways with altogether differing meanings.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 You still didn't prove that the text doesn't say the serpent was created by God.
This is funny lol
Serpents cannot speak. Obviously someone did speak as coming from the serpent back in the Garden of Eden.
We are not left to guess who it was. He is identified in the last book of the Bible.
(Revelation 12:9) So down the great dragon was hurled, THE ORIGINAL SERPENT, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.
Are you serious?
Why is always a guy with a hat?
Just so you know, your 666th video is coming up! I, unfortunately, have what seems to be the very beginning of the same forehead bump in nearly exactly the same spot. I'm praying it goes away and a dermatologist visit isn't needed.
The new testament or the fool's testament
Is there a pattern in the logical fallacies recurring in the work of these presenters?
Just a guess, but he'd probably say the presumption of univocality
@@hive_indicator318- That's a common one, but I think there's one that's even more common: reasoning based on a desired outcome rather than to best match the evidence.
And Ezekial prophesy about Tyre . . . .Fail.
Can you believe this?...............Two grown men arguing about a serpent that can talk.
Jesus!........................oops!..................no pun intended.
Who are you talking to?.............................. and why did you pause so long between your boyish comments? This wasn't an argument...................................................... it was a scholar correcting a young, miss informed theist.
I think he gets all these ideas from books by a man named Michael Heiser.
this, yes. he's poorly repeating an argument from heiser. i think that argument is still wrong, for mostly the same reasons. but it's way less sloppy.
What does “woman” really mean in Genesis? Genesis 2:22 says: “And the Lord God built up the rib, which he took from Adam, into a woman. And he led her to Adam.”
Then Genesis 2:23: “And Adam said: “Now this is bone from my bones, and flesh from my flesh. This one shall be called woman, because she was taken from man.””
So “woman” means a human being built upon a bone taken from the first man Adam or a human being with breasts and the female reproductive system, as we see it today?
Does that mean a woman being a woman has nothing to do with any of her biological features but only because of the fact that she was built upon the bone from a man?
"And the Lord God built the side that He had taken from man into a woman, and He brought her to man." He made her like a building, broad at the bottom and narrow at the top, so that she can carry a fetus, like a storehouse of wheat, which is broad at the bottom and narrow on top, so that its burden should not weigh on its walls.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 Where does it say all these broad and narrow stuffs in the scriptures? I thought Eve only became the woman we see today after she sinned and God modified her body this way to make her bear children this way and then give birth in pain.
The oral Torah explains the written Torah. @@emilyly
I don’t think Dan understands how the internet works. It’s not about facts and knowledge, it’s about telling stories.
I believe this fellow got these ideas from Micheal Heiser.
This guy should convert to Islam. In there the serpent IS unequivocally the devil, since this interpretation was the original basis for the quranic text.
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, your minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ.
Holman Christian Standard Bible Genesis 3:4 No! You will not die,” the serpent said to the woman.”
Is Lying a Righteous Deception or an Unrighteous Deception?
We are born into Satan's Kingdom. This is why we need the tree of life. Jesus is the vine the true branch of life to God. Jesus will crush this Kingdom.
Eve transgressed against the Law of God. Eve is the mother of everyone living. So in birth pains everyone was born into lawlessness. The cherub angel in charge of the garden of Eden deceived her with an unrighteous deception. This made this cherub angel the ruler of this world.
Satan is an Angel of Light
By an unrighteous deception she ate the fruit.
2 Thessalonians 2:9 But the lawless one’s presence is by the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and wonders 10 and every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth in order that they might be saved. 11 That is why God lets a deceptive influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Corinthians 2:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing extraordinary if his ministers also keep disguising themselves as ministers of righteousness. But their end will be according to their works.
2 Timothy 2:14 Also, Adam was not deceived, but the woman was thoroughly deceived and became a transgressor.
Adam wasn't deceived. The ground did produce thorns and thistles because Jesus worn the crown of thorns and thistles. God told Adam the prophecy of the resurrection. Genesis 3:15
The Sacrifice of Jesus was the first part of the prophecy of Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring. He will crush your head, and you will bruise him in the heel.” Satan the Dragon and the Wild Beast the 6th Kingdom executed Jesus on their image the cross. It was the Roman Empire of Italy that is also the shape of the heel. So the first part of the prophecy is complete . Satan bruised Jesus in the heel.
There was only Adam. Adam was naming all of the animals that God was creating! How long was Adam living before the creation of a woman! Genesis 2:18 Then Jehovah God said: “It is not good for the man to continue to be alone. I am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him.” 19 Now Jehovah God had been forming from the ground every wild animal of the field and every flying creature of the heavens, and he began bringing them to the man to see what he would call each one; and whatever the man would call each living creature, that became its name. 20 So the man named all the domestic animals and the flying creatures of the heavens and every wild animal of the field, but for man there was no helper as a complement of him.
Adam's God is a God of Love. Adam loved his bride. Satan murdered Eve. So Adam sacrificed his life for his Bride. Jesus sacrificed his Life for his Bride. John 8:44...That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie.
Jesus rules as King for his God and Father! Jesus is The First and Last!
A perfect life for a perfect life.
Jesus is the last Adam.
New Living Translation Romans 5:14
Still, everyone died-from the time of Adam to the time of Moses-even those who did not disobey an explicit commandment of God, as Adam did. Now Adam is a symbol, a representation of Christ, who was yet to come.
1 Corinthians 15:20 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep in death. 21 For since death came through a man, resurrection of the dead also comes through a man. 22 For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each one in his own proper order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who belong to the Christ during his presence. 24 Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. 26 And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing.
Jesus is the Lamb of The God of Abraham YHVH Yehovah Jehovah
Mark 16:8
In the Gospel of Mark.
If the women tell no one then, Who is !
What each Gospel story is about.
The four living creatures!
Matthew Who was!
Mark Who is!
Luke Who is Coming!
John The Lamb of YHVH!
The four gospels are associated with the four living creatures: Matthew, the man, Mark the lion, Luke the ox, and John the eagle. John has Jesus dying on a different day. It's the Day of Preparation, not the Day of Preparation for Passover. It was the day they prepared the lambs for sacrifice. While at the same time, Jesus is prepared for sacrifice. Jesus is the Lamb of YHVH Yehovah Jehovah
a man, a lion, an ox and an eagle. The man symbolises the prophet; the lion, kingship; the ox, priesthood, and the eagle, fatherhood.
The Hebrew Bible is a technical work. It is difficult to understand even by many Christians. I have challenged McClellan before to show us how good his understanding of the scriptures is by interpreting a given verse. But he didn't. I will list some of those verses again here. Maybe the rest of you who trust his work will offer your interpretation too & help him out. Explain the bold text:
"On every lofty mountain and on every high hill there will be streams running with water on the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. *The light of the moon will be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven days,* on the day the Lord binds up the fracture of His people and heals the bruise He has inflicted."
Isaiah 30:25-26.
"And it will come about in the last days
*That the mountain of the house of the Lord Will be established as the chief of the mountains. It will be raised above the hills,*
And the peoples will stream to it."
Micah 4:1.
*“I will make all My mountains a road, And My highways will be raised up.*
“Behold, these will come from afar;
And lo, these will come from the north and from the west,
And these from the land of Sinim.”
Isaiah 49:11-12.
If you don't understand any random text of the Bible, it probably means you don't understand any of it well!
Your verses are translated, some more than once, from more than one language. There is no reason to accept that these English translations accurately reflect what was intended at the time of the original writing in the original language. These English verses were also obviously written for a poetic effect which may or may not have captured the original meanings.
@@Spiritof_76 The meaning of the text has faithfully been retained. There are a couple of ways we know this. Some of the text has been repeated in the works of different Prophets. For example, Micah 4:1-2 is also written in Isaiah 2:1-2.
Secondly, there is no thematic contradiction! The passages I listed above are on the topic of restoration. This same theme is discussed in the works of the other Prophets & the meaning perfectly matches even though different words are used!
@@danieldengL4R That's what you have written, and perhaps what you believe. But plenty of authors have written a series about specific characters and remained more consistent than those who put the bible anthology together. The bible is fiction with a few historic places thrown in, but barely any evidence that any of it is true or based on anything that really happened. That's not even including the obvious fairy tales/mythology it contains. And it also doesn't address the mistranslation of the original words.
@@Spiritof_76 Well, there is only one way. All roads lead to God. Just rejecting Him won't help you at all. Here is what the Prophet wrote:
"Men will come to Him,
And all who were angry at Him will be put to shame."
Isaiah 45:24.
All men go to God after this life. So God is unavoidable!
@danieldengL4R all roads lead to many gods, not just the christian gods. That's an undeniable fact due to the sheer millions of gods worshipped by men throughout recorded human history. Thus proving your bible wrong.
Your bible and what you have quoted also demonstate the christian gods to be petty, hateful, emotionally unstable and morally depraved. They behave the same as the men that created them in their own petty, spiteful, weak, tantrum throwing image. Choose better gods.