Now why would you do a review of a Land Rover, and not go off road? These dudes are complaining that the Disco has lost all its off-road cred, but how do they know because they never tested it! C'mon guys, if you had bothered to take this vehicle onto some really gnarly trails you would have discovered that it actually has more off-road capability than any Discovery/LR3/4 before it. It just cloaks that capability in a very sharp suit, sort of like James Bond. I think you owe the Disco another review, maybe take a Land Cruiser and a Wrangler along too as a comparison, and this time get into some real rough stuff. I think you'll be surprised at just what the Disco can handle.
I have to agree with Nathan, this car is ready for nothing more than mall crawling with all the long term reliability we all know and love from our friends in England.
Land Rover basically ruined the Discovery by stripping it of its core identity. Trying to be more "urban"? No thanks Land Rover, the Evoque is already failing that category.
Michael Chesnais we have a disco 5 and have already done 36k miles on it and it’s gone into land rover service due to engine problem and they are replacing the engine 🤔 with only 36k mileage and less than a year old
This is so contradictory they praise it for being great off road and a go anywhere vehicle then Nathan says early in this video it can’t go off road. So can it go off road or not? I guess is it’s a great off roader but they are slating it to sell American vehicles. He also said about British electronics are Americans that much better in reliability?
I wish the FLT would do more reviews on the Land Cruiser 200 showing how the articulation and traction on the 200 atrac traction control system compares to say a 4 runner trd pro with lockable rear, and maybe Land Rover, & G-wagon, for comparison. I'm curious how well the 200 atrac with center diff lock and atrac/crawl system work in real situations off road. Personally I would love to have triple lock capability from the factory with the LC200 but in reality atrac should be rather affective.
I am totally with Nathan, great review, guys! The new Disco is such a let down :( I was ready to order a Disco 4 but then waited for the new one and I am never going to buy this ugly piece of SUV, it looks like a blown up fookin Evoque. And all those silly seat motors will fail right after the warranty together with the air suspension.
I own a 2017 Discovery HSE Lux and a 2011 LR4. Now, I think the new Disco is great, and I took it off road and it performed really well. Although I prefer the design, V8, and split tailgate of my LR4, I still think the new Discovery is a fantastic daily loaded with equipment. Biggest problem with the Discovery: the seats are too hard
At last a comment from someone who actually knows what they're talking about. Hail fellow Disco driver, I'm still in my Disco 4 (LR4 to you) waiting for the new 305 Hp diesel which has just been announced. 0 - 60 in 7 secs is pretty awesome in a car with this capability and 26mpg average.
Alex1225TG glad your talking fun experience! May you please post head to head videos on your channels so we can see how much better or worse the new ones is. LR3 driver here, not sure what to upgrade to.. Thanks (-:
im a landrover guy i drove them in the army they where tough beaton up abused and still came on fighting now well they will have to bring out a epic defender to rebuild my faith in the brand.
Let the third owner add all the jerry cans, johnson lift bars, extra racks....etc. and enjoy it off road with a tent. The original owner just wants to be different than the neighbor. And its a nice vehicle for doing that. When your lease runs out you can step up to the Sport or the full Rangey if you have enjoyed the experience :-)
Cool video guys. Glad to see Mike bringing some useful feature commentary to this video. But Nathan... my dude... Lets straighten a couple things out, shall we? 1. The base price of a 2018 Discovery is $53,085. It is not $67,000. Not sure where you're pulling that arbitrary number. And another thing: if y'all had done your homework, you maybe could have tied in that a fully optioned 2018 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon now crests $50,000. Open a model's configurator and do your research. 2. Instead of gawking at the sky high sticker price of your press model with things on it that many normal customers probably wont buy, why not spend some time highlighting the fact that the TD6 engine in the Discovery is only a $2,000 option? Or that, by comparison, that Jeep will charge you $4,500 for their EcoDiesel in the Grand Cherokee? At least Mike had the decency to defend the TD6's power and fuel economy which, had you guys actually driven the car any manner of distance, you would have witnessed cresting 28mpg on long highway drives easily. 3. Gentlemen... the tow rating. Again, Do. Your. Research. US regulations on tow ratings are confounding enough but keeping in mind that Land Rover doesn't actually SET the tow rating, the math here is simple: the engine power does not solely dictate a vehicles maximum tow rating. It has to do with gross vehicle weight as well. Which, had you looked closely, you would have noticed that the TD6 weighs more than the Si6 Discovery does. And wouldn't you know it, that drop in overall tow rating corresponds almost exactly with the increase in total vehicle weight. 4. Land Rover's air spring independent suspension system INCREASES articulation at its highest setting, in part thanks to a system called Cross-Link. Something you might have known if you actually drove it off-road... 5. The air springs in the Discovery (and all Land Rover products) do not inflate to 100% of their capacity in Extended Mode and become "stiff." Again, something you might have know if you actually drove it off road... 6. We can assume that your idea of an "off-road package" looks something like the 17" wheel and 70 series tire you see on a Wrangler Rubicon. Here's the thing: an off-road machine a gigantic sloppy sidewall does not make. In the case of the Discovery it's mostly thanks to... you guessed it! The AIR SPRING suspension system. AGAIN, something you might have known if you actually drove it off-road. And, just for giggles, its important you note that the predecessor to the Discovery (the LR4) which you've built up in this video as a purpose built vehicle came standard with 19" wheels running 50 series tires. And an Air Spring suspension system. And yes, it ran that setup across the world in all manner of terrain. 7. "I know these guys want urban... it's bling!!"
This video completely contradicts the video you all did just weeks ago. I know it's popular to hate on Land Rover, but the truth is this truck is really good. It can go any where, haul a lot of cargo or people, and can tow. It doesn't look like an old Disco, because that style doesn't fly anymore. Any way. First time I've given a thumbs down on a video
Lots of comments comparing LR Disco capabilities with JEEP ones. The point is to compare similar vehicles: Grand Cherokee Trailhawk vs. LR Disco, for instance. Both of them are "mall crawlers". To compare Wrangler JL Sahara just wait for the New LR Defender next year.
Land Rover is nothing like they used to be. They refuse to even have just 1 real off road model. Jeep seems to be doing pretty damned well with a solid axle vehicle. There's room for competition. The only Discovering you're going to do in this is going down a dirt road. Bring a real Discovery or even the Defender to the US as a more upscale off road vehicle.
I watch your show every episode I really want to see the land cruiser an the Range Rover Head on in same video let’s make that happen an make a full video of it all
Nathan blah blah blah... That vehicle will outperform even a Jeep Rubicon. You guys already tested it and probably know that yourself already. Do the test together to match a true off road vehicle and see who wins. Hands down I love the off road capability that I have experienced in mine and it ran circles around others Jeeps. Winner for sure!
There are a few issues with this vehicle: 1. Jerry Mcgovern (Land Rover designer) 2. It cant be off-roadable cause NO ONE takes it off road. This is an unfortunate combo which means that you get a vehicle that feels like an ordinary car and a design job that could have been a hell of a lot better
Liam Taylor Land Rover has been using the 3.0 Supercharged V6 since 2014. It is a smaller variant and is actually built on a similar block as the larger 5.0 Supercharged V8 that Jaguar and Land Rover have been using for years. Edit: I believe the 5.0 engine has been around since 2010 with the XJ, XF, Range Rover, Range Rover Sport, and LR4. The LR4 never got a supercharged 5.0 variant.
been a long time land rover fan, yes they WILL breakdown yet I think they have to do more than any car...luxurious, robust, practice and versitile. My rovers did all that was required and more, I think this one is a bit OTT on the tech, thus will be a weak link in the truck.
If you like going off the beaten path and want a nice vehicle the Land Cruiser 200 is a much better choice. Nowhere near as car like but still very comfortable and much more economical to work on. Also requires less work over time compared the Land Rover.
Former Discovery 1 owner and yeah, they have lost their way. One of those in 10-15 years will be an undesirable pile of garbage mostly unrepairable due to the complex systems. Just look at Range Rover classics vs P38's. Discovery 1's were the last really rugged relatively simple rig they sold stateside. What I don't get is yeah, Range Rover luxury, ok, Evoque now covers that too, so now they need to make the Discovery a urban bling crossover too? Seriously, you need at least one real utility oriented off-roader to claim any continuity of an off-road heritage. Unfortunately the Defender replacement sounds like it's going the way of a cute ute too. Wranglers make the perfect case that utility sells well, stop focusing on image and styling and put some emphasis back on ruggedness, utility, and less on Hollywood Blvd, pissing all your credibility away. You have to retain some in order to try and cash in on it.
You guys didn’t take it off road to visually show us how “it’s not a true off roader anymore”. Yes, Land Rover is catering to the market with this particular vehicle but that’s just good business. I think the Discovery is a very capable off roader for its size, dimensions and intended use. I’m fairly certain it’ll go places and over land that most of not all other CUVs wouldn’t make it. I love the look and real off road cred of the LR4 but I would buy this Discovery. I’d even seriously consider the Diesel engine to get that torque as I don’t do and likely won’t be towing anything over 7000lb anyway. Surprised you didn’t go off road with it to see if it fails out there.
you're showing your age ... articulation is no longer a thing. all new trucks, including all Toyotas and the new G wagens and of course land rovers, are moving to software to get you through, and it works BETTER. take this truck in the hardest trail you have, put it next to a jeep with articulation and lockers and I bet you the discovery will get up the same trail, stock. no, you can go "rock crawl" on the rubicon trail, but tricks that can are absolutely miserable on the road.
Isn't, actually keep that Off-Road DNA than characterizes to Land Rover. Of course still prefer old models (until Disco 4) but this was proven by Richard Hammond from Top Gear (Great Britain) and was very good in Mud, Rocks, and even in the Track. Also another dude (from a channel calls Fifth Gear) test it in Snow, and was freaking awesome too, besides than a spanish channel called Diariomotor (Motordiary) along with Toyota Land Cruiser, and both was pretty nice (Land Rover Discovery a bit better) so I think than always can trust in LRD's
I think they make it clear that throwback is just a way for people to be hipster rugged while doing nothing more dangerous than walking through an empty park. In my disco all those features are useful when your out in the middle of nowhere, or when the rear seat passengers are taking in the view. It might be a rugged offroader but let's face it, these aren't going to follow the 7 year 3rd owner rule because nobody is gonna accept all those "throwback" features over an overstuffed terrain response system that isn't working because it was never used. Electronics are fine as long as you have the info to fix them, but car companies never give out info on keeping their computers on wheels working. LR needs to build a vehicle for the S in SUV, some of us still take trucks camping to places with no cell service or bathrooms. It's pretty obvious they still have the know how even if they stopped building them.
This starts out as a weird acoustic cover of smells like team spirit. I like the modern Land Rover style on the RR and RR sport but the discovery hasn’t quite worked. The belt line looks like it’s been dragged upwards and the bottom swelled out.
Lots of tech , built in Britain , not scared ? I would be and I AM BORN AND BREAD . Great work chaps , USA still trying to build cars to go round corners , just asking .Nice video .👍
Be kind to LR for the “standard” tires they put on the Disco. The Jeep Wrangler Sport and Sahara trims are issued with a “standard” tire that has almost no off-road credibility at all.... on a WRANGLER!
The designer should be drawn and quartered. Along with whomever green lit this thing. No you can have a ford escape or chevy equinox for double the price of both! Somehow its even less reliable than those two as well. Good work!
kjs insaino I’m with you. I have a 2001 Disco 2 (in the UK) with the TD5 engine. To me this is the ultimate on/off road vehicle you would ever need. I’ve had mine for 9 years now and I will keep it until it falls apart, or I do - whichever comes first! Best wishes from Shropshire UK.
I'll take a Ford Explorer Sport or Platinum. More room behind 3 row seat ,better interior, panoramic sunroof so the whole sky is visible and far cheaper
I think you really need to look at this car from the perspective of land rover. Their core customer, the customer that pays the bills, does not take their car offroad and just wants a stylish SUV. Yes it's sad land rover doesn't make solid axle trucks anymore but in the real world, a land rover customer doesn't know what a solid axle is, so why not cater to them and make more money.
Oh get over it. Times change. This can still go off road perhaps better than the old. Times change. People don't even take their SUVs off road. So this is fine.
It's a product of it's environment. No point LR making it a rock crawler when none of it's customers will use it as one. It's not lost it's way - it's just evolved into what the people signing the cheques want.
Thing is those useless tools are the ones earning and spending the money. While you're driving an 18 year old, almost worthless pajero about someone had to develop new cars. Are they going to make them suit the 3rd+ owner, 10 years down the line or the one walking into the showroom with a bag full of cash? I would suggest the useless tools are the ones who moan about things they were never going to fork out for in the first place. Beggars can't be choosers. If you want them to develop more off road biased vehicles tell them so on the customer satisfaction form they will send you after you buy one. Or if you're really put off go buy one of the more offroad biased competition. If you're not going to buy any until they're old and cheap anyway you really have no right to moan since you're getting someone else's cast-offs.
I think this vehicle is very disappointing. The last of the line discovery /LR4 looked like nothing else is was rugged. This looks too soft. Maybe the new defender will regain where the LR4 left off.
How about go off-road? I watched the entire video just to see if it’s more a mall crawler or rock crawler and you guys didn’t show that..the video it’s some what disappointed, but the car not that much..
Land rover is a company just like any others and their number one priority is there wallet and they like anyone else they will sell out to make the biggest profit and mall crawling wins over off roading unfortunately
by putting independent suspension on the disco 3 and 4, that was already kinda pushing it into becoming something it’s not. then in 2014, taking out the Big V8 and putting a piece of shit V6 was at that point ruining it, but hey it still had a chassis.... 2017 5th disco comes, chassis gone, 22 inch rims, big ugly round ford look alike body. not really liking what rover is doin to their vehicles nowadays. i’m sticking to my series 2 disco and my 2012 L322 Range Rover
British? Land Rover has been owned by India's Tata Motors since 2008. Doubtless, they have helped them increase sales and profit, but they have butt-fucked their legacy as working vehicles, especially as the Defender has been discontinued, hopefully, they will remain true to their heritage when the new Defender comes out, but I doubt it. Hate to say it, but I agree with Nathan, the new Disco is a pile of doggy doo doo, if you want a practical, reliable working vehicle.
He reason the petrol tows Morris due to weight because of EU regulation's the diesel has to be cast iron so it's heavy the need to keep it with under a gross train weight less than LGV
I'm disappointed with Land Rover, this SUV is going off the tradition of real 4X4 SUV´s of its era. I think that they are making this kind of cars more for the road and trips rather than off-roading and other stuff. And for the price... its expensive. The trunk door looks horrible, they need to change the design.
Looks like a slightly more elegant feature loaded Ford Explorer. I'll bet the Land Rover Disc still has some cheap plastic parts...inside...You want off-road buy a pick-up truck. SUV's are "compromises" wanting to be as useful as a pickup truck. I'd get a Ford Raptor for "off-roading" or a RAM Rebel TRX..
Now why would you do a review of a Land Rover, and not go off road? These dudes are complaining that the Disco has lost all its off-road cred, but how do they know because they never tested it! C'mon guys, if you had bothered to take this vehicle onto some really gnarly trails you would have discovered that it actually has more off-road capability than any Discovery/LR3/4 before it. It just cloaks that capability in a very sharp suit, sort of like James Bond. I think you owe the Disco another review, maybe take a Land Cruiser and a Wrangler along too as a comparison, and this time get into some real rough stuff. I think you'll be surprised at just what the Disco can handle.
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Can you say MADE in INDIA where people dedicate in the streets.
@@murraydavenport8682 It's not made in India though. The current Discovery is made in Slovakia. 🇸🇰
Completely agree. Beyond the approach angle, it's just as capable or even more so than the old discovery.
From a Land Rover LR series owner I approve this message.
Thanx Nathan.
Gas engine tows more because it weighs less than the diesel does. Gross weight is a factor in towing capability.
I have to agree with Nathan, this car is ready for nothing more than mall crawling with all the long term reliability we all know and love from our friends in England.
Another great Nathan quote: "These wheels are not for off roading, they're for being damaged!" :D
I like this style of review. 1 pros guy, 1 cons guy
Nathan just being negative. He may forget that he has another video driving this same vehicle off road and he's loving it.
Land Rover basically ruined the Discovery by stripping it of its core identity. Trying to be more "urban"? No thanks Land Rover, the Evoque is already failing that category.
At least it's still as Unreliable as ever lol
Michael Chesnais we have a disco 5 and have already done 36k miles on it and it’s gone into land rover service due to engine problem and they are replacing the engine 🤔 with only 36k mileage and less than a year old
Scott Huntley Sell it before facing more serious issues. And never buy a LR again unless you are rich af and not care.
Nathen is very old school guy .. big like
What about the video you guys did two months ago? You said it could go pretty much anywhere, quoted
TCKZ Combat Crew your right! More explanation needed and perhaps more real tests!
This is so contradictory they praise it for being great off road and a go anywhere vehicle then Nathan says early in this video it can’t go off road. So can it go off road or not? I guess is it’s a great off roader but they are slating it to sell American vehicles. He also said about British electronics are Americans that much better in reliability?
I wish the FLT would do more reviews on the Land Cruiser 200 showing how the articulation and traction on the 200 atrac traction control system compares to say a 4 runner trd pro with lockable rear, and maybe Land Rover, & G-wagon, for comparison. I'm curious how well the 200 atrac with center diff lock and atrac/crawl system work in real situations off road. Personally I would love to have triple lock capability from the factory with the LC200 but in reality atrac should be rather affective.
I am totally with Nathan, great review, guys! The new Disco is such a let down :( I was ready to order a Disco 4 but then waited for the new one and I am never going to buy this ugly piece of SUV, it looks like a blown up fookin Evoque. And all those silly seat motors will fail right after the warranty together with the air suspension.
I own a 2017 Discovery HSE Lux and a 2011 LR4. Now, I think the new Disco is great, and I took it off road and it performed really well. Although I prefer the design, V8, and split tailgate of my LR4, I still think the new Discovery is a fantastic daily loaded with equipment. Biggest problem with the Discovery: the seats are too hard
At last a comment from someone who actually knows what they're talking about. Hail fellow Disco driver, I'm still in my Disco 4 (LR4 to you) waiting for the new 305 Hp diesel which has just been announced. 0 - 60 in 7 secs is pretty awesome in a car with this capability and 26mpg average.
Alex1225TG glad your talking fun experience! May you please post head to head videos on your channels so we can see how much better or worse the new ones is.
LR3 driver here, not sure what to upgrade to..
Thanks (-:
John Pitcher I'm an LR3 driver, do you think I should upgrade to an LR4 or the new disco ? Is the 5 worth it?
I agree with Nathan. A mall crawler for women to bang into curbs.
It’s like the G Wagon, it’ll never go off road. If I’m paying that much it’s definitely not going off road.
im a landrover guy i drove them in the army they where tough beaton up abused and still came on fighting now well they will have to bring out a epic defender to rebuild my faith in the brand.
Let the third owner add all the jerry cans, johnson lift bars, extra racks....etc. and enjoy it off road with a tent. The original owner just wants to be different than the neighbor. And its a nice vehicle for doing that. When your lease runs out you can step up to the Sport or the full Rangey if you have enjoyed the experience
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Cool video guys. Glad to see Mike bringing some useful feature commentary to this video. But Nathan... my dude...
Lets straighten a couple things out, shall we?
1. The base price of a 2018 Discovery is $53,085. It is not $67,000. Not sure where you're pulling that arbitrary number. And another thing: if y'all had done your homework, you maybe could have tied in that a fully optioned 2018 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon now crests $50,000. Open a model's configurator and do your research.
2. Instead of gawking at the sky high sticker price of your press model with things on it that many normal customers probably wont buy, why not spend some time highlighting the fact that the TD6 engine in the Discovery is only a $2,000 option? Or that, by comparison, that Jeep will charge you $4,500 for their EcoDiesel in the Grand Cherokee? At least Mike had the decency to defend the TD6's power and fuel economy which, had you guys actually driven the car any manner of distance, you would have witnessed cresting 28mpg on long highway drives easily.
3. Gentlemen... the tow rating. Again, Do. Your. Research. US regulations on tow ratings are confounding enough but keeping in mind that Land Rover doesn't actually SET the tow rating, the math here is simple: the engine power does not solely dictate a vehicles maximum tow rating. It has to do with gross vehicle weight as well. Which, had you looked closely, you would have noticed that the TD6 weighs more than the Si6 Discovery does. And wouldn't you know it, that drop in overall tow rating corresponds almost exactly with the increase in total vehicle weight.
4. Land Rover's air spring independent suspension system INCREASES articulation at its highest setting, in part thanks to a system called Cross-Link. Something you might have known if you actually drove it off-road...
5. The air springs in the Discovery (and all Land Rover products) do not inflate to 100% of their capacity in Extended Mode and become "stiff." Again, something you might have know if you actually drove it off road...
6. We can assume that your idea of an "off-road package" looks something like the 17" wheel and 70 series tire you see on a Wrangler Rubicon. Here's the thing: an off-road machine a gigantic sloppy sidewall does not make. In the case of the Discovery it's mostly thanks to... you guessed it! The AIR SPRING suspension system. AGAIN, something you might have known if you actually drove it off-road. And, just for giggles, its important you note that the predecessor to the Discovery (the LR4) which you've built up in this video as a purpose built vehicle came standard with 19" wheels running 50 series tires. And an Air Spring suspension system. And yes, it ran that setup across the world in all manner of terrain.
7. "I know these guys want urban... it's bling!!"
kinda like an Explorer meets Fpace
How long has Land Rover promised to support the electronic dash?
This video completely contradicts the video you all did just weeks ago. I know it's popular to hate on Land Rover, but the truth is this truck is really good. It can go any where, haul a lot of cargo or people, and can tow. It doesn't look like an old Disco, because that style doesn't fly anymore. Any way. First time I've given a thumbs down on a video
I agree! This is weird! We need to ask them to do more testing videos.
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Matthew Burr I agree completely
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Fun video guys but the truth is that if LR built the type of discovery we fanboys want, no one would buy it!
Lots of comments comparing LR Disco capabilities with JEEP ones. The point is to compare similar vehicles: Grand Cherokee Trailhawk vs. LR Disco, for instance. Both of them are "mall crawlers".
To compare Wrangler JL Sahara just wait for the New LR Defender next year.
Hey Michael, I agree. I still like the look/feel/ride of the Disco. Off-road, you'll definitely need better wheels and tires.
Its the best off-road suv
Land Rover is nothing like they used to be. They refuse to even have just 1 real off road model. Jeep seems to be doing pretty damned well with a solid axle vehicle. There's room for competition. The only Discovering you're going to do in this is going down a dirt road. Bring a real Discovery or even the Defender to the US as a more upscale off road vehicle.
Ryan Martinage seems like Jeep is now trying to do what RR is doing. Give it soms time they'll be working on a Wrangler competitor.
I watch your show every episode I really want to see the land cruiser an the Range Rover Head on in same video let’s make that happen an make a full video of it all
Hmm me thinks future electronic problems
Has "weird" always been misspelled in The Good, The Bad, The Weird graphic and I'm just now noticing it?
I'm with Nathan on this one
Nathan blah blah blah... That vehicle will outperform even a Jeep Rubicon. You guys already tested it and probably know that yourself already. Do the test together to match a true off road vehicle and see who wins. Hands down I love the off road capability that I have experienced in mine and it ran circles around others Jeeps. Winner for sure!
There are a few issues with this vehicle: 1. Jerry Mcgovern (Land Rover designer) 2. It cant be off-roadable cause NO ONE takes it off road. This is an unfortunate combo which means that you get a vehicle that feels like an ordinary car and a design job that could have been a hell of a lot better
The petrol version will use a hell of a lot more fuel towing than a diesel.
BTW this car and the f150 do NOT have the same engine!!!
Liam Taylor Land Rover has been using the 3.0 Supercharged V6 since 2014. It is a smaller variant and is actually built on a similar block as the larger 5.0 Supercharged V8 that Jaguar and Land Rover have been using for years.
Edit: I believe the 5.0 engine has been around since 2010 with the XJ, XF, Range Rover, Range Rover Sport, and LR4. The LR4 never got a supercharged 5.0 variant.
British vehicles with lots of computer tech. What could go wrong with all of the electronically controlled seats, air suspension, etc... Lmao
Every single vehicle I have ever been up made after 2004 has had window coil defrosters
Will probably break down
Activity key? guy with the glasses needs some damn activity in his life
been a long time land rover fan, yes they WILL breakdown yet I think they have to do more than any car...luxurious, robust, practice and versitile. My rovers did all that was required and more, I think this one is a bit OTT on the tech, thus will be a weak link in the truck.
In this video, Nathan maintains his "I am a real dickhead" persona.
beauty!
If you like going off the beaten path and want a nice vehicle the Land Cruiser 200 is a much better choice. Nowhere near as car like but still very comfortable and much more economical to work on. Also requires less work over time compared the Land Rover.
Former Discovery 1 owner and yeah, they have lost their way. One of those in 10-15 years will be an undesirable pile of garbage mostly unrepairable due to the complex systems. Just look at Range Rover classics vs P38's. Discovery 1's were the last really rugged relatively simple rig they sold stateside. What I don't get is yeah, Range Rover luxury, ok, Evoque now covers that too, so now they need to make the Discovery a urban bling crossover too? Seriously, you need at least one real utility oriented off-roader to claim any continuity of an off-road heritage. Unfortunately the Defender replacement sounds like it's going the way of a cute ute too. Wranglers make the perfect case that utility sells well, stop focusing on image and styling and put some emphasis back on ruggedness, utility, and less on Hollywood Blvd, pissing all your credibility away. You have to retain some in order to try and cash in on it.
Kristian Saile my P38 is still going strong at 320,000KM..
You guys didn’t take it off road to visually show us how “it’s not a true off roader anymore”. Yes, Land Rover is catering to the market with this particular vehicle but that’s just good business. I think the Discovery is a very capable off roader for its size, dimensions and intended use. I’m fairly certain it’ll go places and over land that most of not all other CUVs wouldn’t make it. I love the look and real off road cred of the LR4 but I would buy this Discovery. I’d even seriously consider the Diesel engine to get that torque as I don’t do and likely won’t be towing anything over 7000lb anyway. Surprised you didn’t go off road with it to see if it fails out there.
you're showing your age ... articulation is no longer a thing. all new trucks, including all Toyotas and the new G wagens and of course land rovers, are moving to software to get you through, and it works BETTER. take this truck in the hardest trail you have, put it next to a jeep with articulation and lockers and I bet you the discovery will get up the same trail, stock. no, you can go "rock crawl" on the rubicon trail, but tricks that can are absolutely miserable on the road.
So, what SUV delivers on the Disco's promise of refined luxury with SERIOUS 4x4 capability for $75K or less? Grand Cherokee Overland?
At first, I thought I was watching Pawn Stars
Isn't, actually keep that Off-Road DNA than characterizes to Land Rover. Of course still prefer old models (until Disco 4) but this was proven by Richard Hammond from Top Gear (Great Britain) and was very good in Mud, Rocks, and even in the Track. Also another dude (from a channel calls Fifth Gear) test it in Snow, and was freaking awesome too, besides than a spanish channel called Diariomotor (Motordiary) along with Toyota Land Cruiser, and both was pretty nice (Land Rover Discovery a bit better) so I think than always can trust in LRD's
I like the active key for mountain biking
I think they make it clear that throwback is just a way for people to be hipster rugged while doing nothing more dangerous than walking through an empty park. In my disco all those features are useful when your out in the middle of nowhere, or when the rear seat passengers are taking in the view. It might be a rugged offroader but let's face it, these aren't going to follow the 7 year 3rd owner rule because nobody is gonna accept all those "throwback" features over an overstuffed terrain response system that isn't working because it was never used. Electronics are fine as long as you have the info to fix them, but car companies never give out info on keeping their computers on wheels working.
LR needs to build a vehicle for the S in SUV, some of us still take trucks camping to places with no cell service or bathrooms. It's pretty obvious they still have the know how even if they stopped building them.
Will it do as much as the 4Runner offroad?
I just hope when they relaunch the Defender, they don't completely ruin it.
This starts out as a weird acoustic cover of smells like team spirit.
I like the modern Land Rover style on the RR and RR sport but the discovery hasn’t quite worked. The belt line looks like it’s been dragged upwards and the bottom swelled out.
Lots of tech , built in Britain , not scared ? I would be and I AM BORN AND BREAD . Great work chaps , USA still trying to build cars to go round corners , just asking .Nice video .👍
Head to head with a disco 4 please? More testing please! Previous video said amazing off roading..
Thanks (-:
Be kind to LR for the “standard” tires they put on the Disco. The Jeep Wrangler Sport and Sahara trims are issued with a “standard” tire that has almost no off-road credibility at all.... on a WRANGLER!
I agree
The designer should be drawn and quartered. Along with whomever green lit this thing. No you can have a ford escape or chevy equinox for double the price of both! Somehow its even less reliable than those two as well. Good work!
How about this. Nathan won't take it off-road because it might embarrass him.
I would go cross country in a land rover discovery.
Haha! i love Nathan, keeping it real!
Look what the reliability is on these vehicles......near the bottom. Overpriced status "SUV"..
Guy Mooglie gonna make u go bankrupt
0:58 seriously? U kept that jelly bean in ur pocket for the car review?
Of course it is. Was there any doubt about that?
if i could buy a brand new 2004 Disco 2...i would much rather have the 04 than the 2019...BTW, i still drive a 2000, Disco 2 HSE7.
kjs insaino I’m with you. I have a 2001 Disco 2 (in the UK) with the TD5 engine. To me this is the ultimate on/off road vehicle you would ever need. I’ve had mine for 9 years now and I will keep it until it falls apart, or I do - whichever comes first! Best wishes from Shropshire UK.
It is funny how they speak derogatorily about computers from the UK when they have Microsoft with its endless error messages.
I'll take a Ford Explorer Sport or Platinum. More room behind 3 row seat ,better interior, panoramic sunroof so the whole sky is visible and far cheaper
Micheal needs to drop a few he’s getting bigger than Nathan
I think you really need to look at this car from the perspective of land rover. Their core customer, the customer that pays the bills, does not take their car offroad and just wants a stylish SUV. Yes it's sad land rover doesn't make solid axle trucks anymore but in the real world, a land rover customer doesn't know what a solid axle is, so why not cater to them and make more money.
Like who includes their kid in their reviews? And he wonders why there are only 553 views.
Oh get over it. Times change. This can still go off road perhaps better than the old. Times change. People don't even take their SUVs off road. So this is fine.
but you didn’t take it off road. it was screaming for you to get it dirty!
It's the British Ford Explorer.
The answer is yes.
The bad is the reliability!
Review a Land Rover Series 1, 2 or 3.
It's a product of it's environment.
No point LR making it a rock crawler when none of it's customers will use it as one.
It's not lost it's way - it's just evolved into what the people signing the cheques want.
Thing is those useless tools are the ones earning and spending the money.
While you're driving an 18 year old, almost worthless pajero about someone had to develop new cars. Are they going to make them suit the 3rd+ owner, 10 years down the line or the one walking into the showroom with a bag full of cash?
I would suggest the useless tools are the ones who moan about things they were never going to fork out for in the first place.
Beggars can't be choosers.
If you want them to develop more off road biased vehicles tell them so on the customer satisfaction form they will send you after you buy one. Or if you're really put off go buy one of the more offroad biased competition.
If you're not going to buy any until they're old and cheap anyway you really have no right to moan since you're getting someone else's cast-offs.
Looks can be deceiving. This thing will handle just about anything off-road you can throw at it short of extreme rock crawling.
Land Rover should be for off-road cars only Range Rover should be for city cars/luxury SUV’s
I think this vehicle is very disappointing. The last of the line discovery /LR4 looked like nothing else is was rugged. This looks too soft. Maybe the new defender will regain where the LR4 left off.
Basically, this whole review is boomer vs zoomer
2 grand to replace one of those buttons.
How about go off-road? I watched the entire video just to see if it’s more a mall crawler or rock crawler and you guys didn’t show that..the video it’s some what disappointed, but the car not that much..
Nathan has totally knoked nail on head !!!
D5 = total lemon
Land rover is a company just like any others and their number one priority is there wallet and they like anyone else they will sell out to make the biggest profit and mall crawling wins over off roading unfortunately
by putting independent suspension on the disco 3 and 4, that was already kinda pushing it into becoming something it’s not. then in 2014, taking out the Big V8 and putting a piece of shit V6 was at that point ruining it, but hey it still had a chassis.... 2017 5th disco comes, chassis gone, 22 inch rims, big ugly round ford look alike body. not really liking what rover is doin to their vehicles nowadays. i’m sticking to my series 2 disco and my 2012 L322 Range Rover
I'll stick with my suzuki samurai....
Expensive to own af
This look like a Ford Explorer.
They designed it not to feel like a truck🙄🙄
Why is it so ugly. The old one was so much better.
On your person lol
British? Land Rover has been owned by India's Tata Motors since 2008. Doubtless, they have helped them increase sales and profit, but they have butt-fucked their legacy as working vehicles, especially as the Defender has been discontinued, hopefully, they will remain true to their heritage when the new Defender comes out, but I doubt it. Hate to say it, but I agree with Nathan, the new Disco is a pile of doggy doo doo, if you want a practical, reliable working vehicle.
Très classique
no jeep competition here; but I'd bet they kept the expensive to repair and unreliable persona
Where is the offroading??
He reason the petrol tows Morris due to weight because of EU regulation's the diesel has to be cast iron so it's heavy the need to keep it with under a gross train weight less than LGV
I'm disappointed with Land Rover, this SUV is going off the tradition of real 4X4 SUV´s of its era. I think that they are making this kind of cars more for the road and trips rather than off-roading and other stuff. And for the price... its expensive. The trunk door looks horrible, they need to change the design.
Take if off-road
Looks like a slightly more elegant feature loaded Ford Explorer. I'll bet the Land Rover Disc still has some cheap plastic parts...inside...You want off-road buy a pick-up truck. SUV's are "compromises" wanting to be as useful as a pickup truck. I'd get a Ford Raptor for "off-roading" or a RAM Rebel TRX..