Alexander Scriabin - Piano Sonata No. 3, Op. 23 (1898) {Roberto Szidon}

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  • @marcopellegatti
    @marcopellegatti ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Roberto Szidon, such a great and underrated pianist. Thanks for the just homage. 🇧🇷

  • @Iceland874
    @Iceland874 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another of my favorite composers. I love his etudes and symphonies. This has a beautiful melody line. I wonder if words were ever written for it.

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kräftige doch wunderschöne Interpretation dieser spätromantischen und einzigartig komponierten Klaviersonate im veränderlichen Tempo mit klar artikuliertem doch warmherzigem Anschlag und mit dramatischer Dynamik. Der dritte Satz klingt besonders schön und echt mysteriös. Im Kontrast klingt der letzte Satz echt lebhaft und auch überzeugend. Wahrlich intelligenter und genialer Pianist!

  • @wcsxwcsx
    @wcsxwcsx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've got these on LP. Despite the scratches, they're still my favorite performance of them.

  • @donaldauguston9740
    @donaldauguston9740 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The ending is a little sudden, but I liked it.

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    19:49 the triumphant appearance of the theme from the third movement is so epic

  • @vicb4901
    @vicb4901 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scriabin's melodies are more universal than his as-famous compatriot composers. He is ahead of his time in ideas and just in time in tonality. The art of piano sonata takes an interesting twist with him...

  • @douwemusic
    @douwemusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Szidon sounds a bit lost at times

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  ปีที่แล้ว

      Please give me a time stamp so I know what you are talking about. I am curious.

    • @douwemusic
      @douwemusic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bartjebartmans Mainly talking about the first movement. The phrasing (direction, dynamic fluctuations) just seems a bit... off to me at times. Like he's not quite sure what direction to take them, in the context of the harmonies

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  ปีที่แล้ว

      I kind of understand what you mean, but I have the strong feeling Szidon uses a kind of rubato that can come off a bit forced at times, contrary to what the listener expects. But that might be exactly what he was aiming for....... There is also the possiblity, this being the non digital era, that he simply didn't have enough recording time and had to pull it off in a few takes. Unlike for instance Gavrilov and Ashkenazy who took about 70 takes to pull off a super clean Rite of Spring for piano 4 hands. Szidon didn't have that luxury. Plus the mike situation wasn't conducive for the wide range of dynamics he uses. His ppp is really ppp his fff are really fff. and all the shades in-between. The latter bothers me a bit as I can tell he plays those soft tones but you barely can hear them, or sometimes not at all. It doesn't do him justice the great artist he was.

    • @douwemusic
      @douwemusic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bartjebartmans I can agree the recording doesn't do him justice. Regarding the rubato: that's not necessarily my problem, it's more about the dynamic and directional choices in the context of the harmonies presented. To me personally, the harmonies pull in a certain direction, invite a certain storytelling, and Szidon seems to decide to tell a different story. I guess the harmonies were pulling him in a different direction than the one that seems the most logical/musical to me (:

    • @douwemusic
      @douwemusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To give a clear example, the very opening theme, recurring throughout, he consistently ends the 3rd beat a lot softer than the 1 & 2. While I appreciate the gesture of ending the sub-phrases in a musical manner, the intensity of it, to me, feels a bit short breath-ed, as if these figures are 1-bar "main" phrases, which takes away from longer phrasing imho