Francisco de Orellana, who went down the Amazon in the early 1540s, already mentioned the many large settlements and cities that populated a region which is today inpenetrable jungle. Most later scholars and historians put his accounts down to nothing but the fanciful dreamings of a gold-hungry conquistador - seems we owe him a bit more respect than we thought.
I heard recently that Orellana took smallpox with him, and, in the decades between his trip and the later journeys by Westerners all the inhabitants of the villages and towns he saw and marveled at were wiped out.
@@gerryjamesedwards1227 this is true. More than 2/3 of his crew that traveled from west to east down the river. They carried it before the quest. And unfortunately we are finding it took out millions and millions within the couple years before the next return. He was dubbed a sickly dirty greedy manipulative gold conquistador. Unrightfully so. He did in fact find them, but how could he know that his presence would wipe them out. We should learn from this with the last tribes in the Amazon.
Interestingly the 'locals' reported more than a century ago that they where once part of a much larger civilisation. However, they were ignored by the anthropologists of the time. It wasn't until the 1990's that new evidence came to light of a Spanish explorer, who travelled there before the conquistadors. he reported finding a huge civilsation but when they went back a few hundred years later they had bee wiped out by the small pox and other diseases that he left. Therefore his journals were lost to time.
@Ali Al-Mahdi Hahahaha, I like your sense of humor. By the way I was born in Iraq, so your name resonates deep inside and it means a lot. Your analysis of women psychology is interesting and, in my opinion, is not fully accurate. There are many factors when it comes to women mental state, period is one piece of the puzzle. Men, also, go through periods like women but it's not as explicit and painful as women's. Regarding the interpretation of blood for women, it really depends on what culture we're talking about. Yes, there are women who look at menstrual cycle as an impure phase a woman has to go through and that in turn might lead to down feelings. In the west, generally speaking, that's not the case. Western women feel inferior not because of the blood associated with the menstrual cycle; instead, workplace and aggressive lifestyle have crushed their feminism. It's a complicated subject. Why are we talking about this anyway - the video is about an ancient civilization in the Amazon?!
Aren't most or many of these civilizations supposed to be way, way older than that? Similar to how the Incas just built on top of the Aztecs Edit: I think it's Olmecs, not Aztecs
The 2005 book "1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus," by Charles Mann, describes how our picture of the indigenous American peoples was distorted by the toll that diseases took on them. In many cases, those who were left were children who had lost the elder generation that carried most of their culture's knowledge, so the explorers assumed they had always been "primitive," "ignorant," and "uncivilized" -- not realizing that their cultures HAD been civilized, and often quite sophisticated, before European diseases decimated their populations. Very revealing.
Yes... which lends credence to the larger view that Mankind was a city-dwelling creature from the get-go, and that hunter-gatherer cultures are indications of civilisation collapse; not precursors. In short, the social anthropologists have gotten it totally back to front.
The loss included agriulture experts; they knew how to create a soil supplement that was incredibly powerful. Explorers have since found some still existing fragments and the fertility is nearly off the charts; now they're trying to learn how it was made -- could be incredibly important in supporting our population.
All good... except the European diseases bit. I'm among those who aren't totally convinced about the whole ''European diseases wiped out 90% of American indigenous peoples'' theory. That has yet to be proven beyond dispute. There were indigenous viruses and diseases in the Americas that accounted for far worse devastations that the introduced foreign strains / viruses.
@@v1e1r1g1e1 Why do people want to leap from one simplistic generalization to another? Yes, it's apparently true that some primitive hunter/gatherer societies were regressions from more sophisticated cultures that disappeared for one reason or another, but to postulate that human society BEGAN as urban civilization is preposterous. How do you even picture that as a possibility? Somehow you think that Homo erectus, Homo Neanderthalensis, and early Homo Sapiens were city people? Are you coming from some kind of religious kookery or the idea that we were created by space aliens or what?
As someone already mentioned, there were reports of large cities and towns in the Amazon hundreds of years ago, but when people returned later to find out if it was true, they saw nothing but forest. Without the human population, nature had reclaimed the cities after the people vanished. It’s said the first that discovered these people inadvertently exposed them to disease and sickness they were not accustomed to, and died off quite quickly unfortunately.
*I lived in the South American forest, and the Jungle is lightning fast at reclaiming it's natural state. When you clear the under-bush of a piece of forest, and leave it for just 3 weeks and return, you will think you didn't clear a thing. Little trees of 4 meters in height and every kind of bush where you left a shaded field of cassava.*
@@serpentlaw5961 Yes, I’ve seen it first hand as well, though I don’t live in that particular area of the world. I used to maintain a few acres of land for someone in the “wilderness” and eventually the land was sold, so a few weeks later I stopped by to see how it was and if the new land owners had done anything yet, and the place was unrecognizable. They had not touched the place and landmarks I had noticed before were covered by vegetation and practically invisible, if I had not known the area so intimately I probably would have gotten lost. Though I hear in warm humid environments it happens much quicker, it’s really amazing and makes me wonder what else may be hiding under canopies, dirt and sand. As a side note, I would love to visit South America, I have never been and I hear such wonderful things about the peoples and cultures, not to mention the beautiful sights there are to see.
@@CChissel *Yes, it is awesome how nature takes back. I lived in the Giahon region of South America. My brother found a Incan red-glass-copper ring and an old axe head made of dark gray granit with a red stripe along the middle. My dad took the objects to Germany instead of giving it to the local authorities, and I got extremely angry about that. Also gold miners in the area found skulls with gold teeth ...I mean skulls with PERFECT teeth implants - meaning the Inca or Toltec tribe there knew about tooth implants long before our civilization. The gold miners got terribly sick after puling the skulls out of the river, and thought the skulls unleashed curses, and put the skulls back without extracting the teeth. And this incident happened twice. Also there is talk in the region of a hollow in a mountain side which has a 30cm large gold figurine of a triad hidden in it...the group who found it put it right back and covered the spot, simply because they also felt very ill when the found it. It is however a Malaria region. At the time, there was an old man living on the mountain, and they said he was one of the people who decided to guard the mountain. They said he went mad...but I'm not sure...the Indios say he heard the ghosts speak to him.*
@@serpentlaw5961 That’s amazing! But is a shame about those artifacts going to Germany, they should be kept local and taken care of. I’m not surprised about the tooth implants, they practiced a type of brain surgery with success rates from 70% to 90% called trepanation. They were beyond their contemporaries when it came to knowledge of medical techniques it seems, which rivaled the Greeks and Romans in their prime. It’s a shame we know so little about them, damn conquistadors.
There's a book called "The Hiden Tribes of the Amazon " it talks about many tribes that once occupied the Amazon that dates back to the late 1800's..it's a fantastic read
Read "las cronicas de akakor" is a book with 12.000 years of human history by the original empires in south america. In that book you will find the name of the principal cities and the reason to be abandoned.
The whole continent of South America is a mysterious continent that has been forgotten in more ways than one. Even the newer generations of people have forgotten their own history and neglected the ancient past of the continent due to political turmoil and change. Not to mention that many places in South America are very hard to access. In a way, this has protected South America from getting completely destroyed by newer civilizations. The indigenous tribes have been holding on to it's preservation, but corrupt governments have made it hard for them. From Colombia to Argentina it is an adventure that takes people beyond anything they have ever seen. So, I am not surprised the scientiss have found this. If they only knew that in each South American country, they would find more and more mysteries to solve.
It’s also because who,e populations were wiped out due to smallpox and the flu and common cold, so the young people who survived would not have had any cultural knowledge yet and so we lose the history.
@@Sweetlyfe A immune virus has never knocked out entire populations. In this case, the region is too rich in nutrients, to allow inflammation to decimate a people that were much healthier than the modern civilization.
@@jbird9220 Are you familiar with WHY smallpox and other European diseases would decimate indigenous populations, as opposed to how disease/virus affected Europeans?
Another very interesting item is the cultures in the Amazon used burned wood, Charcoal in the planting soils. This is called Terra Preta, (Black Earth). The charcoal provided a micro habitat for Mycorrhiza fungi and good bacteria for the soil. This made it very fertile and great for growing food. This has been discovered all over the Amazon Basin so it must have been quite common. I think the cultures noticed that plants grown in soil that was cleared by burning did much better and was more productive so they used that everywhere.
I remember reading an article about biochar about fifteen years ago that theorized that the Amazon itself is the remnant of the civilization that cultivated the soil for a few thousand years by adding biochar into the topsoil season after season, so that it is over six feet deep of a hyper enriched carbon rich soil. The article's theory was that the Amazon was once farmland plains, but once the population disappeared or moved, everything reverted to wild forest almost immediately, and because it is so rich it became a massive rainforest with its own ecosystem and even its own atmospheric conditions in only a few hundred years I see the same idea around the rural parts of virginia. Any former farmland that gets left unused and undeveloped as housing will become weeds the first few years until the trees take hold, and in ten years the entire lot is a thick forest.
... and then there was another article about how the desert sands of the Sahara and dust from African farmlands get mixed into the moisture in the atmosphere and carries either potassium or phosphorus and deposits it with the rainfall over the amazon.
The first time I heard that theory was from graham hancock, he talked about a research made in the amazon some years ago. That the soil was made by humans in huge extensions of land. It must be the researcher you wrote about.
The fertility of the Amazon basin is definitely because of the sand from sandstorms in the Sahara. Thousands of years ago, during the time the Sahara was still wet and green, the Amazon wasn’t as lush as it is today.
Recent DNA discoveries that have matching markers between indigenous peoples of the Amazon, and Australia would seem to me, to back up this hypothesis.
I am convinced that there have been many civilizations (including advanced ones) that we know nothing about. Nature is very efficient at erasing the fingerprints of Man.
anything industrial would've been discovered by now no doubt. And also once people start farming it's pretty difficult to get them to stop. People didn't start farming until circa 12k years ago when the climate conditions made it a viable transition in several parts of the world.
@@Threezi04 It's pretty arrogant to think we as a species and a civilization would evolve the same way every time after a great disaster. With our ingenuity, we haven't changed that much at all in the past 15 thousand years. I doubt our intelligence is any different, so I assume we'd figure out different ways to create energy or make the wheel spin in other ways than a combustion engine. It takes so little to make a different timeline than ours, and if they had given Tesla more credit and funding, our world could have been a completely different place. If Hitler hadn't existed, US wouldn't have had access to the Nazi scientists, their research and inhumane experiments to let us go to space and the moon. Span those kind of differences over thousands of years? During the last ice age, humans would have lived on the coastlines or in valleys where the climate was nice and warm. These places would have been the first to get destroyed by a flood, and lets not forget, the sea levels rose with 160 meters in as little as 100 years in total. I believe the ocean, Saharas and along with other places hides a lot of our past.
@@Threezi04 "anything industrial would've been discovered by now no doubt." Sure, cause after the 2km deep flood of icebergs, going at near speed of sound, wiping everything off the North and South American continent, people would readily be finding evidence of it...The places they should be looking is 20-50m deep, under 11600 years of debris and growth, off the southern cost of Chile.
Saturn was the sun 12k years ago, the sky was purple. Research the youtube channel The Thunderbolts Project, and their videos and documentaries like symbols of an alien sky. Reseach Purple dawn era of creation. I have seen the Golden age in a dream in 2015, it's called retrocognition, it has lead me down this path, cheers.
I've been wanting to do this since 2019, when I found out about LiDAR and learned about it's use in archeology. I just wanted to run algorithms that sweeped the whole rainforest, so I'm happy somebody finally did it. I remember in 2019, these archeologist guys were asking GIS specialists about if they can do this. I knew they could do it, it just takes one person. Congrats!
@@deejames6371 Not really, it's actually pretty cheap to sweep the whole of the Amazon. Depends on how detailed you want it. When they go in for a find and want more detailed, then it might cost more.
@@truechizable it can only see where there is stuff on the surface. Nothing buried underground. LiDAR ignores trees, and let's you look at the ground. So you can see the mounds of these lost cities or whatever and you'll know where to go.
One thing the video didn't touch on is that the soil in the amazon is a special type that was man-made and super fertile. The trees planted were also placed by man, at least in the southern amazon. To the extent that today governments and scientists try to work with the natives to help figure out how to reforest the amazon It's not just that there was a large civilization that lived in the amazon it's that there was a large civilization that built the amazon. At least for the southern region, it's not a story of building a civilization in an inhospitable environment. It's a story of what happens when the things you build keep growing of their own accord after you're gone
With so many discoveries that have already been made at places we thought were just hills, I'm surprised the entire rain forest hasn't been scanned with Lidar.
Asombroso!! Una civilización casi perdida de hace solo 700 años atrás. Imaginen cuantas civilizaciones perdidas hay de las que tal vez nunca sepamos nada porque han pasado miles de años.
I have been reading a lot about ancient cultures over the last few years and I can tell you that more civilisations are lost than known. There's a video on YT with a map of the history of civilisations that starts from 3000 BC but any more countries only start from the Iron Age. All those white spaces on the map aren't a lack of developed cultures, they're just gaps in historiography. We remember only those civilisations that left behind stone buildings, and not always. Meanwhile, it turns out that people began to organise themselves into socially assembled cultures even at the end of the Ice Age. Already at that time specialists, engineering, astronomy, social classes and proto-culture began to appear (useful plants were specifically sown, but not tended). Wild animals were probably also bred, not yet knowing artificial selection, so animal domestication was almost non-existent. As early as 8000-6000 BC city-states began to emerge and 3000 BC the first empires. The level of a civilisation depended mainly on its wealth and available technology and raw materials. Already in the Neolithic, tribal states were established in North Africa, Asia, Europe, and South America. Such Egypt or Mesopotamia have a longer history than is presented in popular scientific studies. However, it is enough to reach for scientific works focusing on older periods to discover that earlier periods were also developed civilisations. There is still so much to discover, but also so many traces of ancient cultures have already disappeared. However, new scientific methods are emerging. For example, we are now able to determine the shape of structures underground on the basis of the height of crops growing in fields and thus discover traces of wooden cities from 7,000 years ago. Central Europe is full of this. It was once thought that these were the cult structures of primitive peoples. Today we know that they were central fortifications around towns and that these towns were burnt down every few decades, probably as a tool against the plague. Later the site was abandoned again for a few decades, only to return and rebuild the city in exactly the same place. This was probably also linked to primitive agriculture. Such a move allowed the land to rest. And this is just one of many extraordinary lost cultures.
@@orkako deben haber cientas de civilizaciones perdidas en el tiempo; en Europa, en India, en China, en el sudeste asiático, en Japón, en el norte de África, y más que nada en el creciente fértil de oriente medio. Hace 13000 años atrás en Abu Hureyra ya existian agricultores. Estremece pensar en la cantidad de civilizaciones que pudieron existir desde hace 13000 años hasta nuestros tiempos!. Algo en lo que pienso mucho ahora es en las civilizaciones que tal vez existieron (y se perdieron para siempre) en lo que es hoy es el Sahara, que era una zona más húmeda y muy verde hasta hace 6000 años atrás.
@@orkako I agree 100%. They have also found ancient Chinese stone anchors off the coast of south America. DNA testing on Egyptian mummies has revealed trace amounts of cocaine in them. World trade also existed in ancient times.
@@edo4867 The fertile crescent is very well explored and, thanks to the later dry climate, very well preserved, so in that part of the world archaeologists know when and where particular cultures developed and what level they represented. The Sahara has been quite well studied. The people who lived there represented a standard of living similar to modern Indians in the Amazon or sub-Saharan tribes. Many interesting and little known cultures/civilisations have been found in Central Europe, Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Japan, China and Indochina. Also the Americas have many interesting little known civilisations. My favorite forgotten civilizations are the Old European cultures from the Neolithic and Bronze Age from the Balkans and southeastern Europe. It is an amazing history. These were peoples from the fertile crescent that 9000 years ago made their way from what is now Turkey to southern Europe. It was their ancestors who built Göbekli Tepe. These people brought the Neolithic Revolution to Europe and they were responsible for the first European civilisations. They created ideographic writing, the first carts in the world, and in time they built great cities with walls and temples. They had a huge influence on the development of Indo-European culture in the Balkans. The only ones who have survived to our times are the Sardinians and Albanians.
@@jackblackpowderprepper4940 Ancient great journeys are an amazing subject. We must first of all realise that thousands of years ago people were just like us. They had the same problems, fantasies and desires. There were also geniuses and great explorers and risk-takers among them. Our written history is replete with tales of distant journeys, and we can be sure that there were also distant journeys in given times. Today we dream of travelling to the moon or to Mars, but in the past people dreamed of travelling to the horizon or to the other side of the ocean. And just as we take on these challenges today, so too did people thousands of years ago. We have already confirmed many such journeys: The Egyptians sailed around Africa, the Sumerians sailed to Egypt, the Vikings sailed to Nova Scotia, the Achaeans sailed to India, the Chinese sailed to the Arabian peninsula, the Polynesians sailed to Madagascar and South America. etc. However, many voyages are anecdotal (not recognised by the scientific community, even despite the evidence) such as: Vikings among the Incas, Egyptians, Carthaginians and Phoenicians in South America, Egyptians in the British Isles, Greeks in the Baltic Sea, etc. And here comes a very interesting thesis I once read about. I don't remember it very well, but I think that every distant voyage by an old ship was always about 5500 km. If the voyage was further, this distance was doubled, and sometimes even tripled. This distance was limited by the time after which scurvy becomes troublesome. If the ship did not reach any place where supplies could be replenished within this time, it was turned back. If you set sail from any place and after sailing this distance you find something interesting, you can be sure that in the past someone made such an expedition from that place.
Very exciting find! I am always amazed at how more and more, previously unknown, ancient but highly organized, civilizations emerge with new technology.
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@@theharshtruthoutthere That book of the bible is mostly copyed stories thousands years before Christianity.! Lot's of missleadings are in it.Be ware!😈🤔
@@rexluminus9867 That?s why we all should/must SEEK OUT the truth. All that needs SEEKING to find them, aren`t find easily. If the truth is found that easy - a lot more souls would know it. Would know the truth.
"Nobody expected that kind of society in that region". This only applies to archeologists who had nothing but ignorance for the old cultures in South America.
So little is known about ancient human history. The Casarabe people lived from A.D. 500 and 1400, and built a system of roads, and reservoirs and canals used for transporting water during floods between settlements. Water scarcity during the dry season maybe a reason for their downfall.
@@ThePinkBinks You mean the process that takes thousands of years to begin, that has been supposedly due to come and go every year since 2016? And the one that relied on the South Atlantic Geomagnetic Anomaly, whose relation to the poles flipping was just debunked by examining the Earth's core and realizing it's a completely separate phenomenon? Or how about the fact that Francisco de Orellana documented stopping by and unknowingly brought smallpox to the entire region thus destroying the continent's cultures by the time the conquistadors could make the trip proper?
Ariel Troncoso I don’t know about the anomaly you mean. But yeah the one that’s happening right now that governments are prepping for. The one that I hope is an excursion but doesn’t feel like it will be.
I would rather say that the arrival of smallpox killed the majority off like many other cultures in the americas, because of the arrival of the colonizers.
@@ThePinkBinksHonest to God, where do people like you get this $h!t? The magnetic poles are not due to flip next March. The magnetosphere is not scientifically understood well enough to make such predictions possible. You do understand, don't you, that a pole reversal doesn't mean that the earth flips over? It just means that the magnetic field polarity of the planet reverses. It doesn't cause floods. If the earth actually did flip over (which it can't) it wouldn't just cause floods-- it would rip the entire planetary crust apart due to inertial forces. Next March try to remember the garbage you posted here. But maybe cognitive dissonance will prevent the success of your memory.
Hancock's theories are a bunch of supernatural mumbo-jumbo. He talks about a site in Bolivia, Tiawanaku in the Andes, that is completely irrelevant to this video, which is about discoveries in the Amazonian lowlands. Tiawanaku has been radiocarbon dated to 1500 BCE, but Hancock thinks it is 17,000 years old for totally wacko reasons-- actually no reasons at all except for his over-active imagination. I seriously doubt that even he believes the BS he purveys. He's a sensationalist grifter. The recent discoveries in the Amazonian alluvial plain are amazing and fascinating in their actual reality, but that's not good enough for the coocoo birds who want to bring ancient magical conspiracies and alien space lizards into the discussion.
None of this is evidence of anything Grahama Hancock said, the civilizations below the Amazon were about as advanced as the Maya, not super advanced modern esc civilizations, to conclude otherwise would be making up evidence.
The odd thing about this....we have known for DECADES, that there was "lost cities and such"....in that area..in the mounds.....it was just very hard to get to, to excavate
There is a structure there that has a striking resemblance to Plato’s description of Atlantis actually. Can’t remember if it’s natural or man made but interesting either way.
If you search up "How the Earth Was Made" here there is an episode on the Saraha desert. The History channel has uploaded a lot of their documentaries. In the episode there are some bits showing past human occupation, as well as whale bones, which I actually found more interesting I think. =) It wasn't a huge find, a cave and some art, but still, it showed that humans did live there.
maybe the sahara desert is after all man made. its somewhat remarkable that the percieved route of human expansion is surrounded by desert and furthermore it is known that ancient societys didnt care too much about sustainable land use.
Excuse me? Nobody expected that kind of society in that region? What an absolute slap in the face to the many people who have devoted their lives and time, saying and proving otherwise.
I remember learning about this a few years ago, when Graham Hancock wrote his book and did a podcast with JRE. Was absolutely fascinated by the structures found beneath the Amazonian canopy. Good to see its mainstream and getting public interest. And sad to learn, that not thay long ago they thrived, and then were killed off by a small pox brought by Spaniard conquers Cortès. It's amazing how vastly spread, and large some of the sites LiDAR is finding
@@joesmusic7143 i think so yes, but not sure. He may have speculated in fingerprints of the God's? But his America Before, where he focuses mainly on northern America, he also talks and does a segment on Amazon and the LiDAR when they were first being done. And the TeraPreta (black soil) found in a select part which is very fertile and rich for harvest etc.
Thank you for sharing this with the world. I hope the Bolivian government will further fund more research in this region and discover the rest of the hidden treasures of the Llanos de Moxos.
This excelent, informative video, supported by the LIDAR technology, gives more credibility to the sometimes ridiculed Chronicle by the Dominic Priest Fray Gaspar de Carvajal ("Descubrimiento del Río de las Amazonas", spanish version only available) who wrote about the first journey thru the Amazon River from the heights of Peru commanded by Francisco de Orellana (following orders by Pizarro) and where he mentions many highly populated towns (and Amazon women!) along the river and beyond, that most likely were decimated/annihilated by the diseases brought by them, which explains (and also due to constructions based on wood) why later expeditions, many years later, could not find them and led to the ridicule of Carvajal's chronicle... An amazing one !
Possibly, but unlikely. The timing is wrong. Civilisations in the Americas collapsed for many reasons, not just plague/disease. EG: the Toltecs and the Olmecs both collapsed for reasons that are NOT associated with the coming of the White Man. Also, the Americas have their OWN ''indigenous'' plagues / diseases, too. It wasn't just European ones that contributed to the collapse of American societies. Indeed, newer researches show that the much-vaunted 90%-dead-due-to-White-Man figure is grossly exaggerated.
@@v1e1r1g1e1 It was credible for several reasons, despite the fantastic stories about the Amazon women and so many populations, and more I don't remember) first because he was a catholic PRIEST, for whom by then it was a grave SIN to lie, second because there was no need for him to do so and third because some of the remaing story, particularly at its end, fantastic as well, about the last commander, a ruthless individual (Lope de Aguirre, "The Wrath of God") who defied the super powerful King of Spain and finally was killed in Venezuela shores by the King's Army, was proven truth by other accounts... I cannot be 100% sure about what happened to those many populations, but perhaps fearing death, many survivors to the deadly diseases may have just gone deep into the NOW jungle that was heavily populated then as this study demonstrates...
I’ve always thought it was strange that the Amazon was seen as a place that never had large civilization. I saw it as somewhere that probably did. It just made sense to me
something i also find interesting is the cities in europe having their "floor level" raised over time. Cant remember exactly where I saw it, but i saw a video of an archeological digging site in egypt i think where they had to go quite a few meters below the modern floor of the city to dig at the street level of the ancient city
Trash, dirt, rubble, bone build up over time in populated places. It is region specific. For example, in England many rural Roman sites are still at ground level.
@@RocLobo358 when i got into metal detecting they said at a certain depth your just robbing roman graves. You always find a coin buried deep i forget the exact depth specified but it was pretty telling. The comments agreed too. Oops almost forgot they put the coin in the mouth. Lol got it mixed up for a second.
Never fails to entertain me about how surprised the science community gets every time they find a well developed ancient civilization outside of Eurasia. Kind of a bit condescending to assume that everyone else was playing with sticks and mud while your people were building palaces
My wife is from Bolivia. I have been to Samaipata. The Incan cities ruins in the jungle is enormous. You have to literally be there to see the scale of it. Thousands of structures swallowed by the jungle. This is North of a little town where I bought land, El Torno. Lots of coco farms too 😆
Imagine actually living during this, like you witness your whole entire population get whipped out, makes me wonder who was the last one standing and had to see everyone they knew dead until they passed. I know everyone is concern abt the artifacts but my heart goes to the people that had to live through it 💜
Outstanding work and tenacity. My hats off to Dr. Prumers, his team, and their commitment! Amaz-on-ing find! The set up with dwellings, routes, and whatnot remind me of the Chaco Canyon cultural maps. This could be akin to a "center" of a social hierarchy of sorts of the region. It will be interesting what the artifacts and other evidence tell us about the systems of trade, religion, and communication with other regional civilizations. Imagine it being something of pre-Incan, even pre-dating Wankarani or Chiripa cultures!!
Since the entire Amazon rainforest is a ruin of a carefully planted garden it stands to reason that there once was or were one or more civilization(s) who did that.
Thank you to all involved in such important work. C+O2 works with soil biology to recreate the terra preta soils that supported this/these civilizations. Just a hypothesis- there have been reports of large ceramic vessels found at some mounds. Our work would suggest that these vessels may have been used to brew biology to activate biochar. Fascinating work, congratulations.
The terra preta deposits are in specific areas and don't cover the entire amazon basin. Despite the illusion these thick rain-forests are actually growing out of fairly infertile soils. Hence slash and burn farming techniques. The areas of terra preta are a result of intense and repeated human habitation.
@@intractablemaskvpmGy Slash and burn agriculture would be more noticable, because the soils are too infertile for the forest to regrow. They relied on managing fish and mollusks as well as fruit trees, different types of palm, growing crops under the foliage and the keeping of large rodents
You can eat charcoal. If you take hot coals and dunk them in water they become activated charcoal. The steam creates microscopic fissures thought the charcoal. I suspect that serval fungi were cultured. Yeast is one. But black mold is another. And mother of vinegar is another. Black mold makes citric acid its one of the most produced substances on earth. BLACK MOLD. Basically 3 main foods and things for preserving foods comes from mold. I suspect they would have a lot of jars for brewing. Vinegar needed for preserving alcohol useful for cleaning purifying citric acid now i dont know that they grew black mold for citric acid but alcohol and vinegar are obvious one begets the other. The idea that we started in citys is just wrong obviously or that we naturally formed villages. We had familia tribes. Several familys together. The main reason we wandered and gathered was food. Once we figured out how to preserve food we didnt need to wander. Theres no way to have a town with out preserves and agriculture. And a bigger town needs clean water something the ancients never seemed to get right.
The amount of scientific discoveries of late that completely ignore Graham Hancock's work is astounding. They try so hard to act like no one saw this coming.
A broken clock is right twice a day. It's right even more times a day when you replace the clocks with sundials and try to shine a light on them with rocket engines apparently. Oh. It's also easy to say people "saw this coming" when you try to fit in associative fallacies - because, you know, there being a lost city in the jungle is the same as arguing humanity was propped up by an ancient race of Magicians. Instead of... You know, ancient people just being smart enough to just do shit.
He titled some of his books "Magicians of the Gods" and "Fingerprints of the Gods". Does not inspire confidence. I love to hear about books from other YT comments and look for them, read. Have found some great books that way. I'll keep checking on him. I'm a retired librarian and know many of the ways to identify qualified information sources. Currently reading (from a YT recommendation) "Empty Planet: the coming shock of globaol population decline". P.S. Just googled him. How credible is he? How credible is Graham Hancock? . He is an entertainer who makes his living on deliberately hiding information, outrageous interpretations, and intentional wild misrepresentations of academia in pathetic attempts to earn himself some credibility.
@@arieltroncoso3871 You dont have to agree with every extrapolation. A mainstream scientist is right twice a century. Does academia throw the baby out with the bathwater?
There was already the discovery of the Terra preta do indio (biochar), which showed the intense agricultural development, thats only found in high density settlement , a specificity of complex civilization
@@kellydalstok8900 Exactly. Had they the means and knowledge on how to do it; to improve their military, their production and their quality of life, they would have done everything we did.
@@craigb8228 Yes. I'd rather we cut trees and inevitably kill lots of animals for agriculture because I'd rather live inside my comfortable house and have easy access to food. Humanity is better off prioritizing quality of life than longevity.
@@kellydalstok8900 They had fire and babies, so they did have technology capable of altering vast landscapes. They may also have had cultural practices that prevented severe degradation of the land, like we are developing today.
No, if he had just kept it to the obvious (re: there are probably cities beneath the jungle covering), he'd probably have gotten minimal pushback, but that doesn't sell books; he gets flak for tossing darts and adding unnecessary cruff like arguing the Younger Dryas took them out and the local cultures couldn't possibly have made it without the help of fucking magicians. When really, it was probably smallpox that took them out thanks to Francisco de Orellana, and they got to producing certain sites via good human engineering to tackle issues unique to the area.
If anybody is interested in a trip back in time from the European explorers viewpoint I recommend looking for this book: “America: being an accurate description of the Nevv VVorld; : containing the original of the inhabitants; the remarkable voyages thither: the conquest of the vast empires of Mexico and Peru, their ancient and later vvars. With their several plantations, many, and rich islands; their cities, fortresses, towns, temples, mountains, and rivers: their habits, customs, manners, and religions; their peculiar plants, beasts, birds, and serpents” there’s a free pdf online. Of course it’s biased but fascinating nonetheless.
@@AB-yf9xj understanding the way your opponent thinks is the key way to take them down or make them docile. Expanding understanding is a fantastic endeavor
The whole forest is man made, people have been talking about it for a while, when they disappeared the gardens and forests exploded due to the man made qualities to the plants, there is thousands of fruit trees species, I think it was home to one of the most complex and technological in all history, including us
This 'mound' culture extended from seasonal flood plains of E Andes thru the jungles to the Atlantic. It was first discovered by pilots of oil exploration cos in 'highlands' E of Andes over 40 yrs ago. and IGNORED BY WESTERN UNIVERSITIES AND EXPERTS almost to a person since. I found out only after extensive internet searches for ancient civilizations of Americas that might prove humans reached Americas long before the Bering Sea Land Bridge theory has it. I've heard of just ONE 'Western' academic working on mounds, roads, canals, etc of seasonal flood plains E of Andes. It offends Western Civ to believe there were ANY others and they thank the Spanish for spreading disease across Central and South Americas that killed 90% of the native populations, forcing the rest to retreat to hunter gatherer existence away from the millions of dead. It's been hard enough to trivialize (using their blood sacrifice religion) Mexican culture, what with Mexico City, documented by Spanish as being more populous, bigger and cleaner than anything in Europe by far.
It seems elementary to look near the equator where it would have been warmest first coming out of the ice age for signs of people. Keep up the good work. I was surprised to hear them say nobody looked there before.
It was used extensively in Australia, it seems it can penetrate a wide variety of materials, but for Antarctica the ice was s kilometers thick in many areas so it's only been special satellite instruments that have been able to survey what's underneath.
If I remember correctly they found some interesting soil fertilizers where there was kind of a deep stone hole with dirt where they would dispose of dead bodies and animals for bugs to break dowb adding nutrients to the dirt, they kept adding nutrients to the dirt wich keeps adding more nutrients leading to unnaturally rich soil
Interesting work and deserve all recognition, but I could not ignore that there is no South American researcher among the authors. It is not difficult to not think this as a parachute science.
Why aren’t the South American governments and universities doing this work then? It seems that these parachute scientists are the ones preserving the indigenous cultures.
@@discosecret6363 That is why it is called “parachute science” and you are asking why there are no South American involvement in it. When they are left out of the research and get sidelined, it is called parachute science. Look it up.
There's no reason to describe these discoveries as an empire. They represent large scale societies, but we know nothing about their political structure-- how many political entities they represent or the nature of the social or economic relations between them.
Until they find poison darts operated by pressure pads and a 20 foot stone ball as a security system, I'm unconvinced. I think I know my onions on this.
Good for this man and everyone who he works with. To have spent so much time and effort on a particular task and have the fruits of their labor finally visible to everyone. Amazing,
They would’ve been ABSOLUTELY EVISCERATED if they presented this theory before they had an actual picture of it though. The field of archaeology is absolute garbage horse shit manure. That’s why the narrator has to keep telling you how UNEXPECTED it was…
Our children will grow up with this knowledge and it will be learned alongside existing history, without much sense of being 'special', but for us, just now learning about the existence of this new civilisation, we are lucky.
I remember 20 years ago seeing a short video about researchers flying over parts of the Amazon filming these geometric earth works. Nothing was know or even believed about it. It's good to see more coming to light.
@@markhepworth7822 in my whisper voice: “but you have to look first.” I’m whispering. It just reminded of being in elementary school learning about George Washington not telling any lies and cherry trees. You know; rubbish. The scientists called it a rubbish heap because that type of debunking, discrediting and slandering speech is part of the old system established by the Catholic Church to destroy the heritage of any culture that is not European.
it's not a new thing, it was documented by early explorers that there were lots of ruins and cities hidden in the amazon and along the banks of the amazon river but for years those accounts have been brushed under the carpet, id love to see the full extent of this civilisation if they can uncover more
@@rylaczero3740 have they just started using this technology recently for this purpose!it be interesting to learn more about our world like dinosaurs, ancient civilizations, and the oceans. I’m also just excited to learn about the universe with the JWST and other future telescopes!!!! Dwarka, Ram Setu bridge and other ancient bharat sites!!!!
Interesting. What will future archaeologists say about our present world 300yes from now? Will we still be around? I'm sure micro-plastics will be a topic for debate as will the CO2 spike after industrialization. Will there be layers with radioactive materials from a global nuclear war?
Charles C. Mann wrote an excellent book in 2005, "1491, The Americas Before Columbus" where he gives an oversight of these mounds in Bolivia... And much more in Brazil...
He is so happy.. it's in his eyes People used to admire movie characters like *Indiana Jones* or *Himadri Kishore Dasgupta's novels protagonists* , but now time has come, we should celebrate Archiologists and researchers. And we should stop believing mumbo jumbos like ancient aliens..(although it's good for children's imagination, atleast i got interested in history, Archeology by these movies, shows, books) there was no aliens.. it was human.. it was always humanity.. *collective human efforts* brought us from this ancient agricultural civilization to today's these remote sensing technologies. ♥️ And LiDAR is new love ♥️
@@Q_QQ_Q We will get much more than just bramhanism.. what is bramhanism btw? Bramhan are just few percentage of India. Rather say old 'Sanatan' tredition.. We had a rich tradition of Buddha and Jain transition.. there are ancient adivasi history of India too.. A lot can be found.. But these LiDER technology are very expensive..
@@Q_QQ_QHow do you get that? Nothing he said remotely indicated that he is a supporter of Brahmanism. Quote one thing he said to indicate that. Try not to come into YT comments with blatant bigoted dishonesty.
I'm convinced that one day . something from the past will be found..that will shake the world to it's core and fundamentally change everything we thought we knew.
Well, it's already happened and keep happening with every discovery in every science field but one big discovery shakes only people who are interested in that field. What happened when we detected gravitational waves for the very first time? Or what would happen if we ever detect dark matter? What about inventions? If we ever feasibly and commercially start generating energy with fusion reactors? Or what if we start colonizing planets? People who don't care, would not care. Same goes for the "researches of the past" in history, archeology, geology, zoology etc. fields. Finding a new settlements, civizilation, ruins and remnants like Gobeklitepe; finding new human species like Denisova hominins; these affected the history and dates of the world we knew, but doesn't change the world for people who are not interrested. Nothing happened when we calculated the earth's age as 4.5 billion years old. Before that, many people tried and miscalculated; Lord Kelvin estimated that Earth was between 20-million and 400-million years old; and before that Isaac Newton believed it was only 5700 years old. So I'm not convinced. Nothing from the past can shake the world and change anything for all people. But maybe, alien visitors, lol. And even then, I still believe there will be people who would not care at all.
The lost El Dorado was a Spanish legend that may well have stemmed from some early reports of these societies or local natives' traditions about them. It's unlikely that they possessed any substantial amount of gold, however, as this is not found in the Amazonian alluvial plain. Whatever gold they may have had would have been acquired in trade from other societies, and would not have plausibly been anything like the abundance that the legends describe. I think that in fact the archeological finds in this region have produced little or no gold artifacts. The golden aspect of the legend was probably purely an artifact of wishful imagination.
Not surprised really. Academia far too often discounts the potentials of both our historic & prehistoric ancestors. Since a monk made note of these my guess is that they endured a massive societal collapse due to the inevitable pandemic of Old World diseases like small pox. Tragic. Hopefully we'll learn more about this likely massive civilization as time moves forward.
@@christopherellis2663 we are byproducts of extraterrestrial genetic manipulation, if this is true I personally believe the humanoid species may be a galactical/universal race.
So far nobody has found any evidence that there were any civilizations anywhere near the technological level of today - even if there had been intelligent dinosaurs hundreds of millions of years ago, unless they never got to an industrial revolution there would still be some signs, things like chemical signatures in rocks, inexplicable fossils and so on.
@@AB-yf9xj and it basically happened across the globe. I remember being taught when I was young that the people from Easter Island destroyed the island and basically killed themselfs off in one way or another. That is now know to be untrue. The first encounter with the island reported a thriving community. Not the second, and only got worse each visit. And this happened everywhere they went.
@@el_equidistante we all knew that there was something. mostly indicated by the large amounts of terra preta (black fertile soil) found all around there. usualy rain forest doesnt produce fertile soil by itself, not like that. so we all knew that there was an enormous pre-colombian civilization there, being able to sustain a local population in the millions. some secrets should remain in the dark though. especially if revealing them costs us more then we can currently afford. meaning cutting down rain forest, no good.
@@el_equidistante additionally, there were some accounts from like 16th century explorers of busy cities in the region. And for hundreds of years the locals mentioned having been part of a bigger civilisation, but Western historians, anthropologists, archeologists, etc, ignored them.
Some of the comments in this thread hint at why, perhaps, many of these cultures were dismissed. Instead of deeming a culture "civilized" by dint of its technological advancements, maybe we should consider how they treated one another. Were they happy, healthy? Did they find a way to share with neighbors when resources were somewhat scarce?
I’ve participated in an online team using LIDAR image analysis for locating structures for studies & the extent of South American civilizations is astounding. On this site, have you found any indications of communication with other South or Central civilizations?
This is actually old news. I recall from decades back they had done some type of scanning and had found citys and farms in the Amazon. Just as happened in North America, the Spanish inadvertantly killed off millions of people unintentionally with Europian diseases they had no real imunity against. The Mississippian culture for example disapeared about the same time. From earthen pyramids, cities and continental trade to nothing but primitive tribes. I rcall from my Florida history class about I believe one of DeSotos men havig to be left in some village in Alabama or Mississipi becuyas he was too ill to travel. He very well could have been patient zero for the Missisippian culture's demise. The same could well have happened to this Amazonian culture with another patient zero.
seems like we shouldve all taken it more seriously when we were told all our lives that ancient civilizations were sometimes bestowed with incredible insights, transcendent truth, and natural wisdom
@@rb8583 eu prático pesca sub então quando vou fazer os mergulhos sempre encontro porém não sou um profissional da área só observo e tento passar pra quem entende.
@@gabrielbap1 th-cam.com/video/ebO_vgBBks0/w-d-xo.html se vc for nesse vídeo do pescador criativo vai ver algumas imagens parecidas mas a ele fez essas imagens no Rio paru próximo ao município do Jari.
Francisco de Orellana, who went down the Amazon in the early 1540s, already mentioned the many large settlements and cities that populated a region which is today inpenetrable jungle. Most later scholars and historians put his accounts down to nothing but the fanciful dreamings of a gold-hungry conquistador - seems we owe him a bit more respect than we thought.
I heard recently that Orellana took smallpox with him, and, in the decades between his trip and the later journeys by Westerners all the inhabitants of the villages and towns he saw and marveled at were wiped out.
@@gerryjamesedwards1227 this is true. More than 2/3 of his crew that traveled from west to east down the river. They carried it before the quest. And unfortunately we are finding it took out millions and millions within the couple years before the next return. He was dubbed a sickly dirty greedy manipulative gold conquistador. Unrightfully so. He did in fact find them, but how could he know that his presence would wipe them out. We should learn from this with the last tribes in the Amazon.
Awww poor thing Spanish conquistadors they just wanted to develop science for “Free” 🤣🤣🤣🫠🫠🫠
Give him my thanks for the Smallpox.
@@gerryjamesedwards1227 entire populations being wiped out without a trace? Makes no sense at all
Interestingly the 'locals' reported more than a century ago that they where once part of a much larger civilisation. However, they were ignored by the anthropologists of the time. It wasn't until the 1990's that new evidence came to light of a Spanish explorer, who travelled there before the conquistadors. he reported finding a huge civilsation but when they went back a few hundred years later they had bee wiped out by the small pox and other diseases that he left. Therefore his journals were lost to time.
Exactly! there is a city there called Ratanaba, thats the reason they want to invade Amazon
@Ali Al-Mahdi With all due respect Abu Hussain, there's nothing esteemed in your comment. Did you consume "qaat" before you went to bed?
@Ali Al-Mahdi Hahahaha, I like your sense of humor. By the way I was born in Iraq, so your name resonates deep inside and it means a lot.
Your analysis of women psychology is interesting and, in my opinion, is not fully accurate. There are many factors when it comes to women mental state, period is one piece of the puzzle. Men, also, go through periods like women but it's not as explicit and painful as women's. Regarding the interpretation of blood for women, it really depends on what culture we're talking about. Yes, there are women who look at menstrual cycle as an impure phase a woman has to go through and that in turn might lead to down feelings. In the west, generally speaking, that's not the case. Western women feel inferior not because of the blood associated with the menstrual cycle; instead, workplace and aggressive lifestyle have crushed their feminism. It's a complicated subject. Why are we talking about this anyway - the video is about an ancient civilization in the Amazon?!
Yes the Archaeologists always know best, until other Archaeologists prove them wrong.
Aren't most or many of these civilizations supposed to be way, way older than that?
Similar to how the Incas just built on top of the Aztecs
Edit: I think it's Olmecs, not Aztecs
The 2005 book "1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus," by Charles Mann, describes how our picture of the indigenous American peoples was distorted by the toll that diseases took on them. In many cases, those who were left were children who had lost the elder generation that carried most of their culture's knowledge, so the explorers assumed they had always been "primitive," "ignorant," and "uncivilized" -- not realizing that their cultures HAD been civilized, and often quite sophisticated, before European diseases decimated their populations. Very revealing.
Yes... which lends credence to the larger view that Mankind was a city-dwelling creature from the get-go, and that hunter-gatherer cultures are indications of civilisation collapse; not precursors. In short, the social anthropologists have gotten it totally back to front.
The loss included agriulture experts; they knew how to create a soil supplement that was incredibly powerful. Explorers have since found some still existing fragments and the fertility is nearly off the charts; now they're trying to learn how it was made -- could be incredibly important in supporting our population.
All good... except the European diseases bit. I'm among those who aren't totally convinced about the whole ''European diseases wiped out 90% of American indigenous peoples'' theory. That has yet to be proven beyond dispute. There were indigenous viruses and diseases in the Americas that accounted for far worse devastations that the introduced foreign strains / viruses.
@@v1e1r1g1e1 Why do people want to leap from one simplistic generalization to another? Yes, it's apparently true that some primitive hunter/gatherer societies were regressions from more sophisticated cultures that disappeared for one reason or another, but to postulate that human society BEGAN as urban civilization is preposterous. How do you even picture that as a possibility? Somehow you think that Homo erectus, Homo Neanderthalensis, and early Homo Sapiens were city people? Are you coming from some kind of religious kookery or the idea that we were created by space aliens or what?
@@v1e1r1g1e1 what you are saying is absolutely wrong headed
As someone already mentioned, there were reports of large cities and towns in the Amazon hundreds of years ago, but when people returned later to find out if it was true, they saw nothing but forest. Without the human population, nature had reclaimed the cities after the people vanished. It’s said the first that discovered these people inadvertently exposed them to disease and sickness they were not accustomed to, and died off quite quickly unfortunately.
Can believe, how sad, but we do know this has happened.
*I lived in the South American forest, and the Jungle is lightning fast at reclaiming it's natural state. When you clear the under-bush of a piece of forest, and leave it for just 3 weeks and return, you will think you didn't clear a thing. Little trees of 4 meters in height and every kind of bush where you left a shaded field of cassava.*
@@serpentlaw5961 Yes, I’ve seen it first hand as well, though I don’t live in that particular area of the world. I used to maintain a few acres of land for someone in the “wilderness” and eventually the land was sold, so a few weeks later I stopped by to see how it was and if the new land owners had done anything yet, and the place was unrecognizable. They had not touched the place and landmarks I had noticed before were covered by vegetation and practically invisible, if I had not known the area so intimately I probably would have gotten lost. Though I hear in warm humid environments it happens much quicker, it’s really amazing and makes me wonder what else may be hiding under canopies, dirt and sand. As a side note, I would love to visit South America, I have never been and I hear such wonderful things about the peoples and cultures, not to mention the beautiful sights there are to see.
@@CChissel *Yes, it is awesome how nature takes back. I lived in the Giahon region of South America. My brother found a Incan red-glass-copper ring and an old axe head made of dark gray granit with a red stripe along the middle. My dad took the objects to Germany instead of giving it to the local authorities, and I got extremely angry about that. Also gold miners in the area found skulls with gold teeth ...I mean skulls with PERFECT teeth implants - meaning the Inca or Toltec tribe there knew about tooth implants long before our civilization. The gold miners got terribly sick after puling the skulls out of the river, and thought the skulls unleashed curses, and put the skulls back without extracting the teeth. And this incident happened twice. Also there is talk in the region of a hollow in a mountain side which has a 30cm large gold figurine of a triad hidden in it...the group who found it put it right back and covered the spot, simply because they also felt very ill when the found it. It is however a Malaria region. At the time, there was an old man living on the mountain, and they said he was one of the people who decided to guard the mountain. They said he went mad...but I'm not sure...the Indios say he heard the ghosts speak to him.*
@@serpentlaw5961 That’s amazing! But is a shame about those artifacts going to Germany, they should be kept local and taken care of. I’m not surprised about the tooth implants, they practiced a type of brain surgery with success rates from 70% to 90% called trepanation. They were beyond their contemporaries when it came to knowledge of medical techniques it seems, which rivaled the Greeks and Romans in their prime. It’s a shame we know so little about them, damn conquistadors.
There's a book called "The Hiden Tribes of the Amazon " it talks about many tribes that once occupied the Amazon that dates back to the late 1800's..it's a fantastic read
ironically, Amazon music has this as a free listen if you subscribe or a purchasable D/L.
Read it, its garbage.
Read "las cronicas de akakor" is a book with 12.000 years of human history by the original empires in south america. In that book you will find the name of the principal cities and the reason to be abandoned.
Do you know the author's name?
The whole continent of South America is a mysterious continent that has been forgotten in more ways than one. Even the newer generations of people have forgotten their own history and neglected the ancient past of the continent due to political turmoil and change. Not to mention that many places in South America are very hard to access. In a way, this has protected South America from getting completely destroyed by newer civilizations. The indigenous tribes have been holding on to it's preservation, but corrupt governments have made it hard for them. From Colombia to Argentina it is an adventure that takes people beyond anything they have ever seen. So, I am not surprised the scientiss have found this. If they only knew that in each South American country, they would find more and more mysteries to solve.
It’s also because who,e populations were wiped out due to smallpox and the flu and common cold, so the young people who survived would not have had any cultural knowledge yet and so we lose the history.
@@Sweetlyfe That is true too.
@@Sweetlyfe A immune virus has never knocked out entire populations. In this case, the region is too rich in nutrients, to allow inflammation to decimate a people that were much healthier than the modern civilization.
Holding onto what's preservation? Preserving it to be empty except for some tiny tribes?
@@jbird9220 Are you familiar with WHY smallpox and other European diseases would decimate indigenous populations, as opposed to how disease/virus affected Europeans?
Graham Hancock reported about this years ago, maybe start questioning mainstream archeologists isn't always a bad idea...
Another very interesting item is the cultures in the Amazon used burned wood, Charcoal in the planting soils. This is called Terra Preta, (Black Earth). The charcoal provided a micro habitat for Mycorrhiza fungi and good bacteria for the soil. This made it very fertile and great for growing food. This has been discovered all over the Amazon Basin so it must have been quite common. I think the cultures noticed that plants grown in soil that was cleared by burning did much better and was more productive so they used that everywhere.
Thanks Graham Hancock
I remember reading an article about biochar about fifteen years ago that theorized that the Amazon itself is the remnant of the civilization that cultivated the soil for a few thousand years by adding biochar into the topsoil season after season, so that it is over six feet deep of a hyper enriched carbon rich soil. The article's theory was that the Amazon was once farmland plains, but once the population disappeared or moved, everything reverted to wild forest almost immediately, and because it is so rich it became a massive rainforest with its own ecosystem and even its own atmospheric conditions in only a few hundred years
I see the same idea around the rural parts of virginia. Any former farmland that gets left unused and undeveloped as housing will become weeds the first few years until the trees take hold, and in ten years the entire lot is a thick forest.
... and then there was another article about how the desert sands of the Sahara and dust from African farmlands get mixed into the moisture in the atmosphere and carries either potassium or phosphorus and deposits it with the rainfall over the amazon.
The first time I heard that theory was from graham hancock, he talked about a research made in the amazon some years ago. That the soil was made by humans in huge extensions of land. It must be the researcher you wrote about.
The fertility of the Amazon basin is definitely because of the sand from sandstorms in the Sahara. Thousands of years ago, during the time the Sahara was still wet and green, the Amazon wasn’t as lush as it is today.
soils containing biochar In the Amazon are a very tiny fraction of the soils.So that wouldn't make sense.
Recent DNA discoveries that have matching markers between indigenous peoples of the Amazon, and Australia would seem to me, to back up this hypothesis.
I am convinced that there have been many civilizations (including advanced ones) that we know nothing about. Nature is very efficient at erasing the fingerprints of Man.
anything industrial would've been discovered by now no doubt. And also once people start farming it's pretty difficult to get them to stop. People didn't start farming until circa 12k years ago when the climate conditions made it a viable transition in several parts of the world.
@@Threezi04 It's pretty arrogant to think we as a species and a civilization would evolve the same way every time after a great disaster. With our ingenuity, we haven't changed that much at all in the past 15 thousand years. I doubt our intelligence is any different, so I assume we'd figure out different ways to create energy or make the wheel spin in other ways than a combustion engine. It takes so little to make a different timeline than ours, and if they had given Tesla more credit and funding, our world could have been a completely different place. If Hitler hadn't existed, US wouldn't have had access to the Nazi scientists, their research and inhumane experiments to let us go to space and the moon. Span those kind of differences over thousands of years?
During the last ice age, humans would have lived on the coastlines or in valleys where the climate was nice and warm. These places would have been the first to get destroyed by a flood, and lets not forget, the sea levels rose with 160 meters in as little as 100 years in total. I believe the ocean, Saharas and along with other places hides a lot of our past.
@@Threezi04 "anything industrial would've been discovered by now no doubt." Sure, cause after the 2km deep flood of icebergs, going at near speed of sound, wiping everything off the North and South American continent, people would readily be finding evidence of it...The places they should be looking is 20-50m deep, under 11600 years of debris and growth, off the southern cost of Chile.
@@dracolusus Flood of sonic speed icebergs? What?
Wow! It's not every day somebody discovers a lost civilization.
Nah it really is I found one last week
Because our real history has been hidden....
Beneath the jungle and beneath the waves. Much more to uncover
Saturn was the sun 12k years ago, the sky was purple. Research the youtube channel The Thunderbolts Project, and their videos and documentaries like symbols of an alien sky. Reseach Purple dawn era of creation. I have seen the Golden age in a dream in 2015, it's called retrocognition, it has lead me down this path, cheers.
@@bjornmarley5670 What do you mean?
I've been wanting to do this since 2019, when I found out about LiDAR and learned about it's use in archeology. I just wanted to run algorithms that sweeped the whole rainforest, so I'm happy somebody finally did it. I remember in 2019, these archeologist guys were asking GIS specialists about if they can do this. I knew they could do it, it just takes one person. Congrats!
It actually takes a Team of Dedicated Researchers & MULLA!
@@deejames6371 Not really, it's actually pretty cheap to sweep the whole of the Amazon. Depends on how detailed you want it. When they go in for a find and want more detailed, then it might cost more.
@@GoobNoob in theory you could map out where “secret” treasures/old sites are located?
@@truechizable it can only see where there is stuff on the surface. Nothing buried underground. LiDAR ignores trees, and let's you look at the ground. So you can see the mounds of these lost cities or whatever and you'll know where to go.
@@GoobNoob Gotcha, neat stuff. I’m curious to see what kind of artifacts get uncovered in the future
One thing the video didn't touch on is that the soil in the amazon is a special type that was man-made and super fertile. The trees planted were also placed by man, at least in the southern amazon. To the extent that today governments and scientists try to work with the natives to help figure out how to reforest the amazon
It's not just that there was a large civilization that lived in the amazon it's that there was a large civilization that built the amazon.
At least for the southern region, it's not a story of building a civilization in an inhospitable environment. It's a story of what happens when the things you build keep growing of their own accord after you're gone
It is someones built AAaLLL what we see
Blacks had already left Africa and settled in South America… no evidence of their existence
The Amazon is fueled by fertilizer from the Sahara
Excelente pesquisas aqui na Amazônia!
Sim! E o melhor que é do povo indígena, espero que uma população que sofreu tanto seja recompensada
With so many discoveries that have already been made at places we thought were just hills, I'm surprised the entire rain forest hasn't been scanned with Lidar.
It´s huge, it´ll take a lot of time and money to cover everything
Heiko is a good man, hopefully his discovery will be in the hisotry books of the future
Asombroso!! Una civilización casi perdida de hace solo 700 años atrás. Imaginen cuantas civilizaciones perdidas hay de las que tal vez nunca sepamos nada porque han pasado miles de años.
I have been reading a lot about ancient cultures over the last few years and I can tell you that more civilisations are lost than known. There's a video on YT with a map of the history of civilisations that starts from 3000 BC but any more countries only start from the Iron Age. All those white spaces on the map aren't a lack of developed cultures, they're just gaps in historiography. We remember only those civilisations that left behind stone buildings, and not always. Meanwhile, it turns out that people began to organise themselves into socially assembled cultures even at the end of the Ice Age. Already at that time specialists, engineering, astronomy, social classes and proto-culture began to appear (useful plants were specifically sown, but not tended). Wild animals were probably also bred, not yet knowing artificial selection, so animal domestication was almost non-existent. As early as 8000-6000 BC city-states began to emerge and 3000 BC the first empires. The level of a civilisation depended mainly on its wealth and available technology and raw materials. Already in the Neolithic, tribal states were established in North Africa, Asia, Europe, and South America. Such Egypt or Mesopotamia have a longer history than is presented in popular scientific studies. However, it is enough to reach for scientific works focusing on older periods to discover that earlier periods were also developed civilisations. There is still so much to discover, but also so many traces of ancient cultures have already disappeared.
However, new scientific methods are emerging. For example, we are now able to determine the shape of structures underground on the basis of the height of crops growing in fields and thus discover traces of wooden cities from 7,000 years ago. Central Europe is full of this. It was once thought that these were the cult structures of primitive peoples. Today we know that they were central fortifications around towns and that these towns were burnt down every few decades, probably as a tool against the plague. Later the site was abandoned again for a few decades, only to return and rebuild the city in exactly the same place. This was probably also linked to primitive agriculture. Such a move allowed the land to rest. And this is just one of many extraordinary lost cultures.
@@orkako deben haber cientas de civilizaciones perdidas en el tiempo; en Europa, en India, en China, en el sudeste asiático, en Japón, en el norte de África, y más que nada en el creciente fértil de oriente medio. Hace 13000 años atrás en Abu Hureyra ya existian agricultores. Estremece pensar en la cantidad de civilizaciones que pudieron existir desde hace 13000 años hasta nuestros tiempos!. Algo en lo que pienso mucho ahora es en las civilizaciones que tal vez existieron (y se perdieron para siempre) en lo que es hoy es el Sahara, que era una zona más húmeda y muy verde hasta hace 6000 años atrás.
@@orkako I agree 100%. They have also found ancient Chinese stone anchors off the coast of south America. DNA testing on Egyptian mummies has revealed trace amounts of cocaine in them. World trade also existed in ancient times.
@@edo4867 The fertile crescent is very well explored and, thanks to the later dry climate, very well preserved, so in that part of the world archaeologists know when and where particular cultures developed and what level they represented.
The Sahara has been quite well studied. The people who lived there represented a standard of living similar to modern Indians in the Amazon or sub-Saharan tribes. Many interesting and little known cultures/civilisations have been found in Central Europe, Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Japan, China and Indochina. Also the Americas have many interesting little known civilisations. My favorite forgotten civilizations are the Old European cultures from the Neolithic and Bronze Age from the Balkans and southeastern Europe. It is an amazing history. These were peoples from the fertile crescent that 9000 years ago made their way from what is now Turkey to southern Europe. It was their ancestors who built Göbekli Tepe. These people brought the Neolithic Revolution to Europe and they were responsible for the first European civilisations. They created ideographic writing, the first carts in the world, and in time they built great cities with walls and temples. They had a huge influence on the development of Indo-European culture in the Balkans. The only ones who have survived to our times are the Sardinians and Albanians.
@@jackblackpowderprepper4940 Ancient great journeys are an amazing subject. We must first of all realise that thousands of years ago people were just like us. They had the same problems, fantasies and desires. There were also geniuses and great explorers and risk-takers among them. Our written history is replete with tales of distant journeys, and we can be sure that there were also distant journeys in given times. Today we dream of travelling to the moon or to Mars, but in the past people dreamed of travelling to the horizon or to the other side of the ocean. And just as we take on these challenges today, so too did people thousands of years ago. We have already confirmed many such journeys: The Egyptians sailed around Africa, the Sumerians sailed to Egypt, the Vikings sailed to Nova Scotia, the Achaeans sailed to India, the Chinese sailed to the Arabian peninsula, the Polynesians sailed to Madagascar and South America. etc. However, many voyages are anecdotal (not recognised by the scientific community, even despite the evidence) such as: Vikings among the Incas, Egyptians, Carthaginians and Phoenicians in South America, Egyptians in the British Isles, Greeks in the Baltic Sea, etc. And here comes a very interesting thesis I once read about. I don't remember it very well, but I think that every distant voyage by an old ship was always about 5500 km. If the voyage was further, this distance was doubled, and sometimes even tripled. This distance was limited by the time after which scurvy becomes troublesome. If the ship did not reach any place where supplies could be replenished within this time, it was turned back. If you set sail from any place and after sailing this distance you find something interesting, you can be sure that in the past someone made such an expedition from that place.
he seems truly LOVE his work.
Very exciting find! I am always amazed at how more and more, previously unknown, ancient but highly organized, civilizations emerge with new technology.
We don`t die - we just leaving earth, as saved souls - who go up into HEAVEN or as unsaved souls - who go down into torment.
Dear soul, read the bible - full of information and an introduction to who GOD is we should serve.
We, all - saved and unsaved will put on IMMORTALITY, so not a single part of us should perish, but be everlasting.
The torment that awaits for the unsaved: REGRETS, that do not get forgiven (feeling sorry so deeply that it hurts inside yet knowing the whole time (forever) that no forgiven is found for you any longer. Is that enough of the torment? - oh dear soul, no, you will be placed in the middle of a lake full of fire (not water) and you will burn and not dying, for even you, who stayed wicked sinner (unsaved soul) did put on immortality that even single part of you cannot perish, but be everlasting.
Now, tell me, is that not a torment?
We can have a piece of that torment even here, many of us have been felt sorry/regret of thing we have done- right? - now Imagen, not getting forgiven for rest of your days.
See, we are found already in torment, in a temporary torment.
In the lake of fire, THE TORMENT LAST FOREVER. DAY AND NIGHT WITHOUT ANY KIND OF REST. NO DAY(S) OFF.
Even if you have been there (in torment) already for millions and trillions of years, you`ll be there same long.
That`s the something, we are trying you all warn about. Instead of dying twice, you`ll choose LIFE. The life(promises) that GOD promise to give us , IF WE REPENT AND BORN AGAIN =GET SAVED.
“Hear, O LORD, when I cry with my voice: have mercy also upon me, and answer me.”
Psalms 27:7 (KJV)
How to deal with BIBLE?
1.) read it from 1st page (1.testament) to the last page (2. testament) = getting to know the text that`s in the bible,
2.) Start to study the bible, why it is written the way it was and what kind of picture does it actually give us.
3.) While hunger for truth - one receives the COMFORTER - THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO WILL TEACH US AND BRING INTO OUR REMEMBRANCE ALL THING JESUS TOLD US.
4.) congratulations, you now also knowing and understanding the harsh truth like i do. aka the heavenly wisdom.
@@theharshtruthoutthere That book of the bible is mostly copyed stories thousands years before Christianity.!
Lot's of missleadings are in it.Be ware!😈🤔
@@rexluminus9867 That?s why we all should/must SEEK OUT the truth. All that needs SEEKING to find them, aren`t find easily. If the truth is found that easy - a lot more souls would know it. Would know the truth.
"Nobody expected that kind of society in that region".
This only applies to archeologists who had nothing but ignorance for the old cultures in South America.
Amazingly produced video! Viewers should appreciate the amount of work that must have gone into this :)
negative.
I've looked at 3 comments and you have been Negative on 2!! So if you're
So Negative, my question is why?? Are you a Karen or a Kevin?? 🤗
So little is known about ancient human history. The Casarabe people lived from A.D. 500 and 1400, and built a system of roads, and reservoirs and canals used for transporting water during floods between settlements. Water scarcity during the dry season maybe a reason for their downfall.
Or it was extinction from the flood from the magnetic poles flipping - which is due to happen again this March.
@@ThePinkBinks You mean the process that takes thousands of years to begin, that has been supposedly due to come and go every year since 2016?
And the one that relied on the South Atlantic Geomagnetic Anomaly, whose relation to the poles flipping was just debunked by examining the Earth's core and realizing it's a completely separate phenomenon?
Or how about the fact that Francisco de Orellana documented stopping by and unknowingly brought smallpox to the entire region thus destroying the continent's cultures by the time the conquistadors could make the trip proper?
Ariel Troncoso I don’t know about the anomaly you mean. But yeah the one that’s happening right now that governments are prepping for. The one that I hope is an excursion but doesn’t feel like it will be.
I would rather say that the arrival of smallpox killed the majority off like many other cultures in the americas, because of the arrival of the colonizers.
@@ThePinkBinksHonest to God, where do people like you get this $h!t? The magnetic poles are not due to flip next March. The magnetosphere is not scientifically understood well enough to make such predictions possible. You do understand, don't you, that a pole reversal doesn't mean that the earth flips over? It just means that the magnetic field polarity of the planet reverses. It doesn't cause floods. If the earth actually did flip over (which it can't) it wouldn't just cause floods-- it would rip the entire planetary crust apart due to inertial forces. Next March try to remember the garbage you posted here. But maybe cognitive dissonance will prevent the success of your memory.
Graham Hancock talked about this decades ago and everyone in academia laughed at him. He’s not wrong though.
Hancock's theories are a bunch of supernatural mumbo-jumbo. He talks about a site in Bolivia, Tiawanaku in the Andes, that is completely irrelevant to this video, which is about discoveries in the Amazonian lowlands. Tiawanaku has been radiocarbon dated to 1500 BCE, but Hancock thinks it is 17,000 years old for totally wacko reasons-- actually no reasons at all except for his over-active imagination. I seriously doubt that even he believes the BS he purveys. He's a sensationalist grifter. The recent discoveries in the Amazonian alluvial plain are amazing and fascinating in their actual reality, but that's not good enough for the coocoo birds who want to bring ancient magical conspiracies and alien space lizards into the discussion.
So true!
None of this is evidence of anything Grahama Hancock said, the civilizations below the Amazon were about as advanced as the Maya, not super advanced modern esc civilizations, to conclude otherwise would be making up evidence.
This is some of the most fascinating technology. I would love to be a part of it
The odd thing about this....we have known for DECADES, that there was "lost cities and such"....in that area..in the mounds.....it was just very hard to get to, to excavate
I recommend reading "1491" by Charles Mann regarding pre-columbus americas.
I'll second that recommendation.
I prefer pre-Columbian Europe
@@christopherellis2663 1450?
absolutely astonishing!!!
Since the Sahara also used to be lush, I wonder if there's anything to be found there.
There is a structure there that has a striking resemblance to Plato’s description of Atlantis actually. Can’t remember if it’s natural or man made but interesting either way.
If you search up "How the Earth Was Made" here there is an episode on the Saraha desert. The History channel has uploaded a lot of their documentaries. In the episode there are some bits showing past human occupation, as well as whale bones, which I actually found more interesting I think. =) It wasn't a huge find, a cave and some art, but still, it showed that humans did live there.
@@matyas_laczko Yes I believe that is it.
maybe the sahara desert is after all man made. its somewhat remarkable that the percieved route of human expansion is surrounded by desert and furthermore it is known that ancient societys didnt care too much about sustainable land use.
@@kipperkopper1529 Man made suggests to me that it's done with intent. That's like saying the wilderness coming back to Pypriat is also man made.
Excuse me? Nobody expected that kind of society in that region? What an absolute slap in the face to the many people who have devoted their lives and time, saying and proving otherwise.
Snowflake
I remember learning about this a few years ago, when Graham Hancock wrote his book and did a podcast with JRE. Was absolutely fascinated by the structures found beneath the Amazonian canopy.
Good to see its mainstream and getting public interest.
And sad to learn, that not thay long ago they thrived, and then were killed off by a small pox brought by Spaniard conquers Cortès.
It's amazing how vastly spread, and large some of the sites LiDAR is finding
Graham hancock wrote of this in the 1990’s , too. I forget which book
“Nobody expected..” Graham did.
@@joesmusic7143 i think so yes, but not sure. He may have speculated in fingerprints of the God's?
But his America Before, where he focuses mainly on northern America, he also talks and does a segment on Amazon and the LiDAR when they were first being done. And the TeraPreta (black soil) found in a select part which is very fertile and rich for harvest etc.
@@jolynn89 😁 indeed.
Thank you for sharing this with the world. I hope the Bolivian government will further fund more research in this region and discover the rest of the hidden treasures of the Llanos de Moxos.
Will we actually get to see everything is the question.
Bro we don't have any money xdxdxd funding is probably gonna come from external sources.
Finally Graham Hancocks long work is being recognised for years he has been saying this with much push back from the scientific community
no
@@Q_QQ_Q youre gonna be in denial up until your source daddy tells you different and still there will be no thanks to Graham.
@@jeremytee4793 did your daddy order you to do comment ?
@@Q_QQ_Q my daddy died at the end of the younger dryas.
@@jeremytee4793 :DD
This excelent, informative video, supported by the LIDAR technology, gives more credibility to the sometimes ridiculed Chronicle by the Dominic Priest Fray Gaspar de Carvajal ("Descubrimiento del Río de las Amazonas", spanish version only available) who wrote about the first journey thru the Amazon River from the heights of Peru commanded by Francisco de Orellana (following orders by Pizarro) and where he mentions many highly populated towns (and Amazon women!) along the river and beyond, that most likely were decimated/annihilated by the diseases brought by them, which explains (and also due to constructions based on wood) why later expeditions, many years later, could not find them and led to the ridicule of Carvajal's chronicle... An amazing one !
Amazing but, Sad!...
Possibly, but unlikely. The timing is wrong. Civilisations in the Americas collapsed for many reasons, not just plague/disease. EG: the Toltecs and the Olmecs both collapsed for reasons that are NOT associated with the coming of the White Man. Also, the Americas have their OWN ''indigenous'' plagues / diseases, too. It wasn't just European ones that contributed to the collapse of American societies. Indeed, newer researches show that the much-vaunted 90%-dead-due-to-White-Man figure is grossly exaggerated.
@@v1e1r1g1e1 It was credible for several reasons, despite the fantastic stories about the Amazon women and so many populations, and more I don't remember) first because he was a catholic PRIEST, for whom by then it was a grave SIN to lie, second because there was no need for him to do so and third because some of the remaing story, particularly at its end, fantastic as well, about the last commander, a ruthless individual (Lope de Aguirre, "The Wrath of God") who defied the super powerful King of Spain and finally was killed in Venezuela shores by the King's Army, was proven truth by other accounts...
I cannot be 100% sure about what happened to those many populations, but perhaps fearing death, many survivors to the deadly diseases may have just gone deep into the NOW jungle that was heavily populated then as this study demonstrates...
I’ve always thought it was strange that the Amazon was seen as a place that never had large civilization. I saw it as somewhere that probably did. It just made sense to me
True. same. Common sense right? Like why would people think not? Lame.
I love LiDAR ! 💁♀️ So much to discover with this technology .
something i also find interesting is the cities in europe having their "floor level" raised over time. Cant remember exactly where I saw it, but i saw a video of an archeological digging site in egypt i think where they had to go quite a few meters below the modern floor of the city to dig at the street level of the ancient city
Trash, dirt, rubble, bone build up over time in populated places. It is region specific. For example, in England many rural Roman sites are still at ground level.
Norwich (UK) is like this in many parts.
In Poland few cities have stairs to the old city level, some are almost 20 meters deep xd
Believe its because they 'sink' over time. Part of the problem is upper layer of earth is semi liquid even in best of circumstances.
@@RocLobo358 when i got into metal detecting they said at a certain depth your just robbing roman graves. You always find a coin buried deep i forget the exact depth specified but it was pretty telling. The comments agreed too. Oops almost forgot they put the coin in the mouth. Lol got it mixed up for a second.
Never fails to entertain me about how surprised the science community gets every time they find a well developed ancient civilization outside of Eurasia. Kind of a bit condescending to assume that everyone else was playing with sticks and mud while your people were building palaces
Well they didn't even invent the wheel Mesopotamians were more advanced then 16th century native americans ....
They were also shocked about Gobekli which is smack in the center of Eurasia
My wife is from Bolivia. I have been to Samaipata. The Incan cities ruins in the jungle is enormous. You have to literally be there to see the scale of it. Thousands of structures swallowed by the jungle. This is North of a little town where I bought land, El Torno. Lots of coco farms too 😆
Probably lots of cartel in those ruins too🤣
well the Inca aren't an ancient civilization, they grew to become an empire in the 1300s-1400s.
Imagine actually living during this, like you witness your whole entire population get whipped out, makes me wonder who was the last one standing and had to see everyone they knew dead until they passed. I know everyone is concern abt the artifacts but my heart goes to the people that had to live through it 💜
Can you imagine what beautiful treasures are hidden inside these structures
Yes but that line of thought always leads to greed.
Which I love.
But I love preservation more
Outstanding work and tenacity. My hats off to Dr. Prumers, his team, and their commitment! Amaz-on-ing find! The set up with dwellings, routes, and whatnot remind me of the Chaco Canyon cultural maps. This could be akin to a "center" of a social hierarchy of sorts of the region. It will be interesting what the artifacts and other evidence tell us about the systems of trade, religion, and communication with other regional civilizations. Imagine it being something of pre-Incan, even pre-dating Wankarani or Chiripa cultures!!
Yes. Sounds very exotics to me.
i see dead trees.
Looks like a very large area. Just hope they do not destroy the forest for the sake of science and tourism.
@@subramaniamchandrasekar1397 In general they only partially uncover these sites there are many discovered across the Americas.
@@kipperkopper1529 If anything it shows that the forest comes back.
Since the entire Amazon rainforest is a ruin of a carefully planted garden it stands to reason that there once was or were one or more civilization(s) who did that.
LoL. Ieep smoking the ganja
the people there now are also gardeners, it's not just ancient times that had sophisticated cultures
Thank you to all involved in such important work. C+O2 works with soil biology to recreate the terra preta soils that supported this/these civilizations. Just a hypothesis- there have been reports of large ceramic vessels found at some mounds. Our work would suggest that these vessels may have been used to brew biology to activate biochar. Fascinating work, congratulations.
The terra preta deposits are in specific areas and don't cover the entire amazon basin. Despite the illusion these thick rain-forests are actually growing out of fairly infertile soils. Hence slash and burn farming techniques. The areas of terra preta are a result of intense and repeated human habitation.
@@intractablemaskvpmGy
Slash and burn agriculture would be more noticable, because the soils are too infertile for the forest to regrow.
They relied on managing fish and mollusks as well as fruit trees, different types of palm, growing crops under the foliage and the keeping of large rodents
Agreed.
You can eat charcoal. If you take hot coals and dunk them in water they become activated charcoal. The steam creates microscopic fissures thought the charcoal. I suspect that serval fungi were cultured. Yeast is one. But black mold is another. And mother of vinegar is another. Black mold makes citric acid its one of the most produced substances on earth. BLACK MOLD. Basically 3 main foods and things for preserving foods comes from mold. I suspect they would have a lot of jars for brewing. Vinegar needed for preserving alcohol useful for cleaning purifying citric acid now i dont know that they grew black mold for citric acid but alcohol and vinegar are obvious one begets the other. The idea that we started in citys is just wrong obviously or that we naturally formed villages. We had familia tribes. Several familys together. The main reason we wandered and gathered was food. Once we figured out how to preserve food we didnt need to wander. Theres no way to have a town with out preserves and agriculture. And a bigger town needs clean water something the ancients never seemed to get right.
Makes me wonder if there's a lost civilization hidden deep in the Congo Basin. Nobody is searching there.
Graham Hancock's book "America Before" from 2018 has a ton of informstion on the amazonian pre-columbisn civilizations.
When reading "The dawn of everything" Wengrow says that he is really excited with this laser technology. The whole book is just crazy interesting.
The amount of scientific discoveries of late that completely ignore Graham Hancock's work is astounding. They try so hard to act like no one saw this coming.
A broken clock is right twice a day. It's right even more times a day when you replace the clocks with sundials and try to shine a light on them with rocket engines apparently.
Oh. It's also easy to say people "saw this coming" when you try to fit in associative fallacies - because, you know, there being a lost city in the jungle is the same as arguing humanity was propped up by an ancient race of Magicians. Instead of... You know, ancient people just being smart enough to just do shit.
He titled some of his books "Magicians of the Gods" and "Fingerprints of the Gods". Does not inspire confidence. I love to hear about books from other YT comments and look for them, read. Have found some great books that way.
I'll keep checking on him. I'm a retired librarian and know many of the ways to identify qualified information sources.
Currently reading (from a YT recommendation) "Empty Planet: the coming shock of globaol population decline".
P.S.
Just googled him. How credible is he?
How credible is Graham Hancock?
. He is an entertainer who makes his living on deliberately hiding information, outrageous interpretations, and intentional wild misrepresentations of academia in pathetic attempts to earn himself some credibility.
@@veramae4098 ok boomer. "outrageous interpretations" - like...A lost civilization hidden deep beneath the Amazon jungle?
@@arieltroncoso3871 You dont have to agree with every extrapolation. A mainstream scientist is right twice a century. Does academia throw the baby out with the bathwater?
There was already the discovery of the Terra preta do indio (biochar), which showed the intense agricultural development, thats only found in high density settlement , a specificity of complex civilization
Biochar? Like activated charcoal used in filters till it grows bacteria? Because that does make good fertilizer.
@@fajile5109 indeed, we could imagine that was part of native higiene considering the huge amount of organic matter transiting in water.
I imagine the entire globe has something deep in the earth that we may never discover. This is amazing.
Another amazing discovery using the methods of Dr. Sarah Parcak.
Amazing how these people lived in paradise and didn't destroy it.
They didn’t have the technology to destroy it yet.
@@kellydalstok8900 Exactly. Had they the means and knowledge on how to do it; to improve their military, their production and their quality of life, they would have done everything we did.
@@chrisdominguez5097 You actually think life is better even though you clearly know that to make life easier you have to destroy something.
@@craigb8228 Yes. I'd rather we cut trees and inevitably kill lots of animals for agriculture because I'd rather live inside my comfortable house and have easy access to food. Humanity is better off prioritizing quality of life than longevity.
@@kellydalstok8900 They had fire and babies, so they did have technology capable of altering vast landscapes. They may also have had cultural practices that prevented severe degradation of the land, like we are developing today.
Hasn’t Graham Hancock been getting flak from the archeological community about this being a possibility for years?
No, if he had just kept it to the obvious (re: there are probably cities beneath the jungle covering), he'd probably have gotten minimal pushback, but that doesn't sell books; he gets flak for tossing darts and adding unnecessary cruff like arguing the Younger Dryas took them out and the local cultures couldn't possibly have made it without the help of fucking magicians.
When really, it was probably smallpox that took them out thanks to Francisco de Orellana, and they got to producing certain sites via good human engineering to tackle issues unique to the area.
His recent book America Before goes over this subject...and more
Lots of people expected that size and sophistication in the Amazon
If anybody is interested in a trip back in time from the European explorers viewpoint I recommend looking for this book: “America: being an accurate description of the Nevv VVorld; : containing the original of the inhabitants; the remarkable voyages thither: the conquest of the vast empires of Mexico and Peru, their ancient and later vvars. With their several plantations, many, and rich islands; their cities, fortresses, towns, temples, mountains, and rivers: their habits, customs, manners, and religions; their peculiar plants, beasts, birds, and serpents” there’s a free pdf online. Of course it’s biased but fascinating nonetheless.
Thank you!
why would anyone want to read something from the perspective of a genocidal colonizer??
@@AB-yf9xj understanding the way your opponent thinks is the key way to take them down or make them docile. Expanding understanding is a fantastic endeavor
@@AB-yf9xj aside from the fact that this may be one of the only accounts of these people and the way they lived pre-Columbus
Thank you
Most importantly, this place seems rather untouched by the people of past many centuries.
The whole forest is man made, people have been talking about it for a while, when they disappeared the gardens and forests exploded due to the man made qualities to the plants, there is thousands of fruit trees species, I think it was home to one of the most complex and technological in all history, including us
@@ThomasJFoolery including us? Have you been reading pseduoarchaeology?
@@simstar6557 yeah :(. I shouldn’t have said us currently, more like 1800s us.
@@ThomasJFoolery in 1800 in we had guns, metal ships etc.
@@ThomasJFoolery closer to Egypt 3000 BC.
This 'mound' culture extended from seasonal flood plains of E Andes thru the jungles to the Atlantic. It was first discovered by pilots of oil exploration cos in 'highlands' E of Andes over 40 yrs ago. and IGNORED BY WESTERN UNIVERSITIES AND EXPERTS almost to a person since. I found out only after extensive internet searches for ancient civilizations of Americas that might prove humans reached Americas long before the Bering Sea Land Bridge theory has it. I've heard of just ONE 'Western' academic working on mounds, roads, canals, etc of seasonal flood plains E of Andes. It offends Western Civ to believe there were ANY others and they thank the Spanish for spreading disease across Central and South Americas that killed 90% of the native populations, forcing the rest to retreat to hunter gatherer existence away from the millions of dead. It's been hard enough to trivialize (using their blood sacrifice religion) Mexican culture, what with Mexico City, documented by Spanish as being more populous, bigger and cleaner than anything in Europe by far.
Academia has an issue with ego. They don’t like to admit error.
Fascinating video thanks for promoting his work
Great discovery and great people working on it .Thank .
It seems elementary to look near the equator where it would have been warmest first coming out of the ice age for signs of people. Keep up the good work. I was surprised to hear them say nobody looked there before.
Because many have, and have been trying to tell the dumbass mainstream for years and nobodt listened.
Can the same technology be used over the Sahara desert or Antarctica ?
It was used extensively in Australia, it seems it can penetrate a wide variety of materials, but for Antarctica the ice was s kilometers thick in many areas so it's only been special satellite instruments that have been able to survey what's underneath.
Yes
Yeah but they won’t 😏
Not to find things under the surface if that is what you mean? It's just light, and can't penetrate where light can't
In the Sahara scientists use ground penetration radar. Many settlements have been found under the sand.
Graham Hancock mentioned these for years as well as countless missionaries and expeditionaries from Europe going into the Amazon
Graham Hancock has been trying to get others interested in this for years. Read 'America Before'.
Yep!
If I remember correctly they found some interesting soil fertilizers where there was kind of a deep stone hole with dirt where they would dispose of dead bodies and animals for bugs to break dowb adding nutrients to the dirt, they kept adding nutrients to the dirt wich keeps adding more nutrients leading to unnaturally rich soil
Super cool! Also see some discoveries over here
Interesting work and deserve all recognition, but I could not ignore that there is no South American researcher among the authors. It is not difficult to not think this as a parachute science.
Why aren’t the South American governments and universities doing this work then? It seems that these parachute scientists are the ones preserving the indigenous cultures.
@@discosecret6363 That is why it is called “parachute science” and you are asking why there are no South American involvement in it. When they are left out of the research and get sidelined, it is called parachute science. Look it up.
@@discosecret6363 $$$
Are Carla Betancourt and Jose' Iriarte South American? They are coauthors on the Nature paper.
@@nmarbletoe8210 university of Bonn and university of exeter.
Astounding. There could be empires we’ve never heard of.
undoubtable there are many.
There's no reason to describe these discoveries as an empire. They represent large scale societies, but we know nothing about their political structure-- how many political entities they represent or the nature of the social or economic relations between them.
@@donnievance1942 Splitting academic hairs with a worker bee will get you no points. lol
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Until they find poison darts operated by pressure pads and a 20 foot stone ball as a security system, I'm unconvinced. I think I know my onions on this.
😂😂😂it needs an archeologist named after the family dog…
Good for this man and everyone who he works with. To have spent so much time and effort on a particular task and have the fruits of their labor finally visible to everyone. Amazing,
They would’ve been ABSOLUTELY EVISCERATED if they presented this theory before they had an actual picture of it though. The field of archaeology is absolute garbage horse shit manure. That’s why the narrator has to keep telling you how UNEXPECTED it was…
Our children will grow up with this knowledge and it will be learned alongside existing history, without much sense of being 'special', but for us, just now learning about the existence of this new civilisation, we are lucky.
Fascinating time to be a live!
I remember 20 years ago seeing a short video about researchers flying over parts of the Amazon filming these geometric earth works. Nothing was know or even believed about it. It's good to see more coming to light.
Its only coming to light because they ran out of money and want to keep their jobs.
I remember the same as you have described also
What evidence gives any scientist the conclusion to go directly to “rubbish heap” before investigating?
Midden mounds are very common findings in the archeological field,especially in South America.
@@markhepworth7822 in my whisper voice: “but you have to look first.” I’m whispering. It just reminded of being in elementary school learning about George Washington not telling any lies and cherry trees. You know; rubbish. The scientists called it a rubbish heap because that type of debunking, discrediting and slandering speech is part of the old system established by the Catholic Church to destroy the heritage of any culture that is not European.
They would literally rather find old trash than gold
it's not a new thing, it was documented by early explorers that there were lots of ruins and cities hidden in the amazon and along the banks of the amazon river but for years those accounts have been brushed under the carpet, id love to see the full extent of this civilisation if they can uncover more
Arrogance always waits until it can gaslight the sheep into thinking it was their discovery.
Can’t put into words how absolutely cool this is
lidar technology will be revolutionary
for archeology
And waking people up to fake history
It's also being deployed in agriculture sector in India via commercial drones.
@@rylaczero3740 have they just started using this technology recently for this purpose!it be interesting to learn more about our world like dinosaurs, ancient civilizations, and the oceans. I’m also just excited to learn about the universe with the JWST and other future telescopes!!!! Dwarka, Ram Setu bridge and other ancient bharat sites!!!!
Interesting. What will future archaeologists say about our present world 300yes from now? Will we still be around? I'm sure micro-plastics will be a topic for debate as will the CO2 spike after industrialization. Will there be layers with radioactive materials from a global nuclear war?
They will marvel at how we squandered everything.
@Robert Lemon don't think we will still be here in 300 years.
Fantastic video! God bless you!
No gods are required for science.
Charles C. Mann wrote an excellent book in 2005, "1491, The Americas Before Columbus" where he gives an oversight of these mounds in Bolivia... And much more in Brazil...
It's like metal detecting but on a bigger scale.
Middle of nowhere and find a coin or something that shows a human once stood there. It's amazing
He is so happy.. it's in his eyes
People used to admire movie characters like *Indiana Jones* or *Himadri Kishore Dasgupta's novels protagonists* , but now time has come, we should celebrate Archiologists and researchers.
And we should stop believing mumbo jumbos like ancient aliens..(although it's good for children's imagination, atleast i got interested in history, Archeology by these movies, shows, books) there was no aliens.. it was human.. it was always humanity.. *collective human efforts* brought us from this ancient agricultural civilization to today's these remote sensing technologies. ♥️
And LiDAR is new love ♥️
Remotely sensed you
If new technologies be applied fully in India , It will peel off brhaminism which has captured since last 1000 years .
@@Q_QQ_Q We will get much more than just bramhanism.. what is bramhanism btw? Bramhan are just few percentage of India.
Rather say old 'Sanatan' tredition..
We had a rich tradition of Buddha and Jain transition.. there are ancient adivasi history of India too..
A lot can be found..
But these LiDER technology are very expensive..
@@somdeepkundu2506 Brahminism supporter spotted .
@@Q_QQ_QHow do you get that? Nothing he said remotely indicated that he is a supporter of Brahmanism. Quote one thing he said to indicate that. Try not to come into YT comments with blatant bigoted dishonesty.
I'm convinced that one day . something from the past will be found..that will shake the world to it's core and fundamentally change everything we thought we knew.
Or perhaps it has already been found, but is being kept from us…
@@nothanks5846 yes, someday it'll reveal itself, Dajjal & Yakjuj Makjuj
Well, it's already happened and keep happening with every discovery in every science field but one big discovery shakes only people who are interested in that field. What happened when we detected gravitational waves for the very first time? Or what would happen if we ever detect dark matter? What about inventions? If we ever feasibly and commercially start generating energy with fusion reactors? Or what if we start colonizing planets? People who don't care, would not care.
Same goes for the "researches of the past" in history, archeology, geology, zoology etc. fields. Finding a new settlements, civizilation, ruins and remnants like Gobeklitepe; finding new human species like Denisova hominins; these affected the history and dates of the world we knew, but doesn't change the world for people who are not interrested. Nothing happened when we calculated the earth's age as 4.5 billion years old. Before that, many people tried and miscalculated; Lord Kelvin estimated that Earth was between 20-million and 400-million years old; and before that Isaac Newton believed it was only 5700 years old.
So I'm not convinced. Nothing from the past can shake the world and change anything for all people. But maybe, alien visitors, lol. And even then, I still believe there will be people who would not care at all.
@@nothanks5846 Gobleki Tepe
@@danielklimisch8905 thanks, I will look into it!
I wonder if this is the Amazon's infamous lost City of Gold?
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The lost El Dorado was a Spanish legend that may well have stemmed from some early reports of these societies or local natives' traditions about them. It's unlikely that they possessed any substantial amount of gold, however, as this is not found in the Amazonian alluvial plain. Whatever gold they may have had would have been acquired in trade from other societies, and would not have plausibly been anything like the abundance that the legends describe. I think that in fact the archeological finds in this region have produced little or no gold artifacts. The golden aspect of the legend was probably purely an artifact of wishful imagination.
Shame they’ve cut down over 200 million acres, the United Kingdom is 60 million acres, just to give some perspective
Not surprised really. Academia far too often discounts the potentials of both our historic & prehistoric ancestors. Since a monk made note of these my guess is that they endured a massive societal collapse due to the inevitable pandemic of Old World diseases like small pox. Tragic. Hopefully we'll learn more about this likely massive civilization as time moves forward.
We have no idea what happened on this planet before we got here…or we don’t know how many civilizations have came and went
Its both amazing and scary at the same time. I wonder if they left any warnings to future civilizations.
So, what planet did you come from?
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Don't trust Trump
@@christopherellis2663 we are byproducts of extraterrestrial genetic manipulation, if this is true I personally believe the humanoid species may be a galactical/universal race.
So far nobody has found any evidence that there were any civilizations anywhere near the technological level of today - even if there had been intelligent dinosaurs hundreds of millions of years ago, unless they never got to an industrial revolution there would still be some signs, things like chemical signatures in rocks, inexplicable fossils and so on.
The amount of life lost when explorers inadvertently gave these cultures disease is heartbreaking.
they weren't explorers they were murderers
@@AB-yf9xj and it basically happened across the globe. I remember being taught when I was young that the people from Easter Island destroyed the island and basically killed themselfs off in one way or another. That is now know to be untrue. The first encounter with the island reported a thriving community. Not the second, and only got worse each visit. And this happened everywhere they went.
Invaders and thieves the many lives they destroyed willingly. As well as knowledge like the maya codexes.
It is inevitable
@@AB-yf9xj in a way they were indeed exploring... but to robe 'em n' Exploit 'em
"no one expected that kind of civilization in that region", ye no. everyone knew. but hey, good job for locating a potential digging site.
what do you mean?
@@el_equidistante we all knew that there was something. mostly indicated by the large amounts of terra preta (black fertile soil) found all around there. usualy rain forest doesnt produce fertile soil by itself, not like that. so we all knew that there was an enormous pre-colombian civilization there, being able to sustain a local population in the millions. some secrets should remain in the dark though. especially if revealing them costs us more then we can currently afford. meaning cutting down rain forest, no good.
@@el_equidistante additionally, there were some accounts from like 16th century explorers of busy cities in the region. And for hundreds of years the locals mentioned having been part of a bigger civilisation, but Western historians, anthropologists, archeologists, etc, ignored them.
thank you both, didn't know that and it's very interesting
thanks for getting me here, Rogan!
Could we please re-direct that $40 billion to these projects?! I much prefer this kind of news about my world!
It's been known for hundreds of years. Graham Hancock's "America Before".
No. Graham Hancock's BS has no resemblance to what is being described in this video.
Anyone else come here from a Joe Rogen short?
Some of the comments in this thread hint at why, perhaps, many of these cultures were dismissed. Instead of deeming a culture "civilized" by dint of its technological advancements, maybe we should consider how they treated one another. Were they happy, healthy? Did they find a way to share with neighbors when resources were somewhat scarce?
Communism was not a thing tribalism was. Tribalism means defending your familia. Growing your familia. Not sharing? With strangers.
love how people have been yelling about this for centuries and were never taken seriously.
Love when he said it was a dream coming true, pure excitement!
I’ve participated in an online team using LIDAR image analysis for locating structures for studies & the extent of South American civilizations is astounding. On this site, have you found any indications of communication with other South or Central civilizations?
This is actually old news. I recall from decades back they had done some type of scanning and had found citys and farms in the Amazon. Just as happened in North America, the Spanish inadvertantly killed off millions of people unintentionally with Europian diseases they had no real imunity against. The Mississippian culture for example disapeared about the same time. From earthen pyramids, cities and continental trade to nothing but primitive tribes. I rcall from my Florida history class about I believe one of DeSotos men havig to be left in some village in Alabama or Mississipi becuyas he was too ill to travel. He very well could have been patient zero for the Missisippian culture's demise. The same could well have happened to this Amazonian culture with another patient zero.
So europeans effectively caused the bronze age collapse but N/S America edition
seems like we shouldve all taken it more seriously when we were told all our lives that ancient civilizations were sometimes bestowed with incredible insights, transcendent truth, and natural wisdom
It’s ironic that we’re searching the stars for distant civilizations while there’s civilizations on our planet that we have yet to discover.
These are the days of lasers in the jungle. Lasers in the jungle somewhere.
percorram as região do Amapá ou lado direito da BR 156
vão encontrar muita coisa boa
já vi muito indício de civilização antiga por lá.
Por que vc mesmo nao faz isso? vai que vc encontra ouro por la
@@rb8583 eu prático pesca sub então quando vou fazer os mergulhos sempre encontro porém não sou um profissional da área só observo e tento passar pra quem entende.
Interessante. Tem exemplos?
@@gabrielbap1 th-cam.com/video/ebO_vgBBks0/w-d-xo.html se vc for nesse vídeo do pescador criativo vai ver algumas imagens parecidas mas a ele fez essas imagens no Rio paru próximo ao município do Jari.
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