as someone who has ratted in both a hel and a nidhoggur, the timings seem on par. obviously havens were easier if you were bombing the waves, but in drone space, it wasnt quite as easy to pull off with that style of horde. Marauders are awesome for ratting, and at half the cost of a normal carrier, i dont see why you wouldnt fly one these days! they can also be pretty nasty in pvp against a small gang too. I typically rat in a Golem, but my only issue is i find myself counting torp volleys and having to time the target paint to get max value, its a slight pain. Paladin is really nice since you dont need to worry about that, so it takes the cake on quality of life! IGN - Caaryn - Raven, cause Caldari master race!
for the hel your better off with a full hyper fit, you dont need any tank if youve got a pos + safes, have 4x senti ECCM scrips and full high grade jackals you should have roughly 2300 sensor strength. with that much no ones gunna be able to combat probe you down at any safe. your only real danger is when youre landing on a new horde if there waiting at your site cloaked.
If you want to increase speed, set your guns into two groups. The paladins firepower is too high to put it all on one gun group. You could get your time down by at least 2 minutes if you weren't doing mega overkill on the small ships.
This guys advice seems dodgey. Any Hel should easily be able to warp around almost as fast as a battleship, and a decent fit Paladin can tank a carrier spawn long enough to warp out.
Hi! Its a good video to make decisions, thanks! I tested my golem , the time is 8:55 , I got many times a carrier spawn but it can tank it until the bastion ends. ing: Christina Haklar - I like the Vedmak skin
The Marauder Damagebuff works pretty nice...if its possible to rat in a Kronos its absolutly godlike...if you are very crazy you can go for 4,5-5k DPS with Polarized or 3,5k for a "normal" Fit, 3,2-3,3k DPS if you just buy T2 Modules...all in all i like the changes and prefer the Maurader over Super and Carrier, only downtime on this things are the 30 Sec Bastion Mode..with a carrier you can easily jump out when you have a backup Cyno ready. If someone engange you, you can also survive smaller Gangs or kill them when you use a Mobile Depot and refit the Ship for Combat until the help arrived. Little add to the Haven Sites: Check the "Special Abilitys" from the Rats before, when you hunt in the wrong Space the Capital Ship points you :) A Friend was..."suprised"...as he tried to warp out and cant do it cause the Dread Points him. So i would prefer Forsaken Rally Points or Hubs when you ratting in this things, little bit lower ISK/h, but you are absolutly save IGN: Stellina Rocinante If i would be happy about the Abaddon Skin
In Drone Hordes my best average time is 12 mins with no interruptions (neuts jumping into the system, etc) My Paladin is not blinged out at 1.6 billion and I have never lost more than 10 percent shield since none of the drones hit that far out. I only use tachyon beams as this has saved me twice since when someone comes into the system and sees a Marauder, they warp straight to the Horde site. They have landed 200km off me twice (I saw them when they jumped into the system) which gave me time to disengage the Bastion and MJD out further and warp to a safe. I can live with 12 mins to have the piece of mind that I can get out. I did lose one Paladin since I had a carrier spawn and didn't realize it until it was too late. Lessoned learned. :)
@@seeking7662 This is from memory so... 2 Tracking Enhancers II 3 Heatsink II Damage Control II Large Armor Repair II Sensor Booster II with Scan Script Tracking Computer II with Optimal Range Script (one of those I use Targeting Range Script also) MJD Heavy Cap Booster Tachyon Beams II x4 Bastion Cloak II Large CCC I x1 Large Energy Burst Aerator II x1 I would say 80% of the time I one shot frigs out to 220km. I have everything including Marauders to level 5 I am getting ready to rework it. I never ever get to armor and barely every lose 10 percent of shield so I will lose the armor repair module. Nothing except the carrier hits out that far. I may lose the Cap Booster...need to see
@@joseph401 i need to admit i never did the site myself with a pala... but i believe the carrier has about 1700 DPS at least thats what eveentity says... a pala with passive cap regen cant tank this i believe... but a pala with a cap booster fit can tank about 4-10k DPS or something depending on how much u invest also those numbers are with 2 Reps and of cozz implants just fit a pala with a cap booster and i think u good to go... i suggest u want to try this first on the testserver or have two mates with logis or an alt account who will help you to survive if u do a misstake while testing on tranquility i also recommend to buy or roll a few cheap Mutaplasmid Heatsinks u can boost ur Damage by 50 DPS or more just for idk... 20kk isk investment there is a video on YT where a guy is clearing the site with a vexor and an ishtar REMEMBER I DID NOT TEST THIS MYSELF
If you want to ratt, you dont flight a Single anno. So the pala cant warp directly after the side because it needs to wait for Bastionmodus. Thats why the nid ist fester. The second reason why i prefer to use nid is the fact that you can align to structure if there is a neut in system. You can directly warp and pala cant move
I never have the bastion module running in the last wave, just incase an NPC infested carrier spawns. But yes, this was just a quick and dirty test on 1 anom. A carrier is definitely saver to fly than a Paladin and they complete anoms in pretty much the same time give or take 10-20secs.
Welcome to Horde! I’ve been in the alliance for 1.5 years and I know you’ll love it here. Excited to see some videos in the future of your adventures in horde. Also my In game name is Xascar Colls. I would love the vexor or vedmak skin please :)
o7 my fellow capsuleers I personally use a Kronos and average between 19 and 25 mill per tick depending on the BRM. Great video keep up the good work love seeing new helpful eve content about life in Null. In game Jenksterman Dallocort
I use both a nyx and a golem when ratting in either haven or sanctum sites and not much can beat the feeling of using heavy fighters and using the bombs. As much as i love using my super carrier risking a 40 Billion isk ship over a 3.5 Bill Golem makes me cry, so i tend to safe log my super and rat with my golem and bring the super if when a dread or titan spawns. IGN Fin Ops - Vargur cos its a almost no good looking skins lol (Minmatar Rust) PS it might be worth doing another video super vs carrier vs marauder from station to warping to site to completion. O/
Im looking forward to training into a Marauder after seeing how quick it clears compared to investment. Not much chance id be able to afford a carrier or a super until im able to clear stuff like this quickly haha. IGN - MrWreckHD Vedmak skin if still available, and thank you for the giveaway!
Great video man! Learned a ton. My question is can I just use Beams no Bastion and still rock it from 100km out that way I can just warp if hostiles come in. I can run a Torp Golem but am way to scared to risk it because of the ganks but sniper setup with this I think would be Sweet.
I haven't nullsec ratted in maybe a year and a half, but the Hel timings surprised me, especially in a fulltank fit.., Not quite surprised that the Paladin cleared as fast as it did with that fit, and as usual, carriers suck. IGN - Shanna Alabel, Vedmak, good ship, and I dont want to buy skins.
Maybe I am not the smartest, but I eat in MJ with an 34 mil vexor fit... It will die but only to carriers ... And after 1 h it is paid for. How did the last update changed the behavior of marauders (shield extender and armor plates were buffed)? Or are they still fittet the Sam way as before? IGN Mathilda Chelien
I'm scared to rat in a marauder simply because of the commitment you make to not being able to quickly warp out for minutes at a time using Bastion which is where all the DPS really comes from. I've seen too many vids of marauders getting 1-shot by a titan using MWD warp method and them quickly being able to do the same thing for their safe spot again before anyone can catch the titan, or getting surprise blopsed while in Bastion where you can't warp out if something sus shows up on D-scan or local spikes
Our corp just got our own system in null just for the experience. Not like we could defend against a large null corp war, but it is what it is. That being said, I'm just about to move a ship there to do some ratting as long as we can. I am trained mostly for the Golem, so seeing the Maurader included was really informative. I'm not too worried about clear times at this point, mostly just content and survivability. IGN - BigJimSlade Franzenos
@@vinodsiba4823 My statement was about a concerted attack by one of the larger null corps taking the system. Not a few hundred bees leaving our hive for a bit of fun. That was almost a year ago, my good man. Come on over, now. ;-)
@@BIGxJIMxSLADE come where? I just zkillboard searched your toon. You have a grand total of 1.2b in kills which is the biggest joke ive seen in my life. All your kills are in ouelletta which is a low sec system. You have 0 null experience and 0 pvp experience. 1.2b in total kills? Lmao my guy you are an insect a 5 year old girl could crush. Calm down lmao.
@@BIGxJIMxSLADE your other 2 toons with the name bigjimslade and bigjimslade64 have 0 isk in kills. Why dont you stop embarrassing yourself. Youre a high sec carebear that wouldnt survive 5 seconds in null sec. All your 1.2b worth of kills are big ganks in a fleet. Youve never 1v1 anyone in your life. Lmfao.
funny thing is, paladin can ez survive infested carrier spawn i believe... but not in a capstable fit with passive cap regen... use cap boosters and ur paladin can take 10k DPS
thx for that comparison was looking for a goal now after i can fly a vexor in ratting sites. which is why i´d ask for a vexor-skin if i win IGN: Uriel Destiny
@Netfq love the video man, I have a question wic amongst the mauraders puts out the most DPS and tanks more? Ign = Sakura husher......Golem police skin
Hey always enjoy your videos! I like the marauder over all! But I fly the golem for the range! My In game name is THANK YOU FC I’ll love to have the obelisk skin 😄
And well unless you are in a big bloc chances that you have access to a keep is slim. But with the changes coming to industry and bpo's i might be able to afford to loose a carrier and be able to rebuild one, not going to burn 8-10b to build a carrier today. I do have 2 titans and 1 super on sisi and 2 keepstars but on live i live in npc station in low sec so pretty much use Drake, Oracle and such not to expensive ships. IGN: Thotamon Obelisk would be cool
Sorry about that ... I've made a video per ship a while ago where I showed the fittings for each ship type. If you'd like to know a specific fitting let me know and I'll post it here for you?
Here's the Paladin fit: [Paladin, PvE] Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Heat Sink Multispectrum Coating II Multispectrum Coating II True Sansha Heat Sink True Sansha Heat Sink Large Micro Jump Drive Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery Federation Navy Tracking Computer Federation Navy Tracking Computer Mega Pulse Laser II Heavy Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer Mega Pulse Laser II Heavy Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer Mega Pulse Laser II Bastion Module I True Sansha Large EMP Smartbomb Mega Pulse Laser II Large Energy Burst Aerator II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Salvage Drone II x5 Acolyte II x8 Conflagration L x100 Imperial Navy Multifrequency L x100 Scorch L x100 Tracking Speed Script x2 Optimal Range Script x2
@@NETFQ not true. duel tracking scripts and multi for the small stuff. conflag everything else. you are losing out on so much dps by being scorch only.
@@zeropride1133 The trouble with that is it puts you closer to the site and hence you're quicker to be tackled if a hostile comes on grid ... at least being 70km+ off you have a chance to get away.
aaa thata paly, if you go short range amo +2 optimal scripts and warp to 0 would be actualy faster than a standart carrier with enough tanking to get an infested carrier desiege and warp off OR, if you ti double rep yopu can actualy tank it and kill it with 2 marauders
Polarized golem does quite well as long as you down cycle bastion on the next to last wave so you can run if you get npc capital spawns.
as someone who has ratted in both a hel and a nidhoggur, the timings seem on par. obviously havens were easier if you were bombing the waves, but in drone space, it wasnt quite as easy to pull off with that style of horde. Marauders are awesome for ratting, and at half the cost of a normal carrier, i dont see why you wouldnt fly one these days! they can also be pretty nasty in pvp against a small gang too. I typically rat in a Golem, but my only issue is i find myself counting torp volleys and having to time the target paint to get max value, its a slight pain. Paladin is really nice since you dont need to worry about that, so it takes the cake on quality of life!
IGN - Caaryn - Raven, cause Caldari master race!
for the hel your better off with a full hyper fit, you dont need any tank if youve got a pos + safes, have 4x senti ECCM scrips and full high grade jackals you should have roughly 2300 sensor strength. with that much no ones gunna be able to combat probe you down at any safe. your only real danger is when youre landing on a new horde if there waiting at your site cloaked.
If you want to increase speed, set your guns into two groups. The paladins firepower is too high to put it all on one gun group. You could get your time down by at least 2 minutes if you weren't doing mega overkill on the small ships.
This guys advice seems dodgey.
Any Hel should easily be able to warp around almost as fast as a battleship, and a decent fit Paladin can tank a carrier spawn long enough to warp out.
Been looking for a video like this for days. Thank you
Hi!
Its a good video to make decisions, thanks!
I tested my golem , the time is 8:55 , I got many times a carrier spawn but it can tank it until the bastion ends.
ing: Christina Haklar - I like the Vedmak skin
Just finished training for one 😊 can't wait to take it out for a spin, after I buy one that is lol
The Marauder Damagebuff works pretty nice...if its possible to rat in a Kronos its absolutly godlike...if you are very crazy you can go for 4,5-5k DPS with Polarized or 3,5k for a "normal" Fit, 3,2-3,3k DPS if you just buy T2 Modules...all in all i like the changes and prefer the Maurader over Super and Carrier, only downtime on this things are the 30 Sec Bastion Mode..with a carrier you can easily jump out when you have a backup Cyno ready.
If someone engange you, you can also survive smaller Gangs or kill them when you use a Mobile Depot and refit the Ship for Combat until the help arrived.
Little add to the Haven Sites: Check the "Special Abilitys" from the Rats before, when you hunt in the wrong Space the Capital Ship points you :)
A Friend was..."suprised"...as he tried to warp out and cant do it cause the Dread Points him.
So i would prefer Forsaken Rally Points or Hubs when you ratting in this things, little bit lower ISK/h, but you are absolutly save
IGN: Stellina Rocinante
If i would be happy about the Abaddon Skin
Good advice, thanks Benny!
In Drone Hordes my best average time is 12 mins with no interruptions (neuts jumping into the system, etc) My Paladin is not blinged out at 1.6 billion and I have never lost more than 10 percent shield since none of the drones hit that far out. I only use tachyon beams as this has saved me twice since when someone comes into the system and sees a Marauder, they warp straight to the Horde site. They have landed 200km off me twice (I saw them when they jumped into the system) which gave me time to disengage the Bastion and MJD out further and warp to a safe. I can live with 12 mins to have the piece of mind that I can get out. I did lose one Paladin since I had a carrier spawn and didn't realize it until it was too late. Lessoned learned. :)
Hi, can u share ur fit plz, I have hard time hitting any frig with my fit
@@seeking7662
This is from memory so...
2 Tracking Enhancers II
3 Heatsink II
Damage Control II
Large Armor Repair II
Sensor Booster II with Scan Script
Tracking Computer II with Optimal Range Script
(one of those I use Targeting Range Script also)
MJD
Heavy Cap Booster
Tachyon Beams II x4
Bastion
Cloak II
Large CCC I x1
Large Energy Burst Aerator II x1
I would say 80% of the time I one shot frigs out to 220km. I have everything including Marauders to level 5 I am getting ready to rework it. I never ever get to armor and barely every lose 10 percent of shield so I will lose the armor repair module. Nothing except the carrier hits out that far. I may lose the Cap Booster...need to see
u know u can ez survive the infested carrier if u using the right fit... no?
@@ProfibobWot Please post your fit.
@@joseph401 i need to admit i never did the site myself with a pala...
but i believe the carrier has about 1700 DPS
at least thats what eveentity says...
a pala with passive cap regen cant tank this i believe...
but a pala with a cap booster fit can tank about 4-10k DPS or something depending on how much u invest
also those numbers are with 2 Reps
and of cozz implants
just fit a pala with a cap booster and i think u good to go...
i suggest u want to try this first on the testserver or have two mates with logis
or an alt account who will help you to survive if u do a misstake while testing on tranquility
i also recommend to buy or roll a few cheap Mutaplasmid Heatsinks
u can boost ur Damage by 50 DPS or more just for idk... 20kk isk investment
there is a video on YT where a guy is clearing the site with a vexor and an ishtar
REMEMBER I DID NOT TEST THIS MYSELF
If you want to ratt, you dont flight a Single anno. So the pala cant warp directly after the side because it needs to wait for Bastionmodus. Thats why the nid ist fester. The second reason why i prefer to use nid is the fact that you can align to structure if there is a neut in system. You can directly warp and pala cant move
I never have the bastion module running in the last wave, just incase an NPC infested carrier spawns. But yes, this was just a quick and dirty test on 1 anom. A carrier is definitely saver to fly than a Paladin and they complete anoms in pretty much the same time give or take 10-20secs.
Welcome to Horde! I’ve been in the alliance for 1.5 years and I know you’ll love it here. Excited to see some videos in the future of your adventures in horde. Also my In game name is Xascar Colls. I would love the vexor or vedmak skin please :)
Thanks for the video, very helpful! What are your rigs? Do you have any implants?
o7 my fellow capsuleers I personally use a Kronos and average between 19 and 25 mill per tick depending on the BRM. Great video keep up the good work love seeing new helpful eve content about life in Null.
In game Jenksterman Dallocort
19-25 mil tick in Kronos 😳 wow...I mostly get 25mil tick in my praxis BRM 150
@@youngkimzy1329 yea... dude definetly faming wrong
but u farming in wormhohles i believe....
wormhohles are more dangerous than nullsec in a big ally
did the niddy have any application and sensor boosters? that makes a significant difference . i use a thanatos personally and a nyx
I use both a nyx and a golem when ratting in either haven or sanctum sites and not much can beat the feeling of using heavy fighters and using the bombs. As much as i love using my super carrier risking a 40 Billion isk ship over a 3.5 Bill Golem makes me cry, so i tend to safe log my super and rat with my golem and bring the super if when a dread or titan spawns.
IGN Fin Ops - Vargur cos its a almost no good looking skins lol (Minmatar Rust)
PS it might be worth doing another video super vs carrier vs marauder from station to warping to site to completion.
O/
Just finished training for a golem, I am wondering how much in ticks do you get from that monster
Im looking forward to training into a Marauder after seeing how quick it clears compared to investment. Not much chance id be able to afford a carrier or a super until im able to clear stuff like this quickly haha.
IGN - MrWreckHD
Vedmak skin if still available, and thank you for the giveaway!
Great video man! Learned a ton. My question is can I just use Beams no Bastion and still rock it from 100km out that way I can just warp if hostiles come in. I can run a Torp Golem but am way to scared to risk it because of the ganks but sniper setup with this I think would be Sweet.
I haven't nullsec ratted in maybe a year and a half, but the Hel timings surprised me, especially in a fulltank fit..,
Not quite surprised that the Paladin cleared as fast as it did with that fit, and as usual, carriers suck.
IGN - Shanna Alabel, Vedmak, good ship, and I dont want to buy skins.
Maybe I am not the smartest, but I eat in MJ with an 34 mil vexor fit... It will die but only to carriers ... And after 1 h it is paid for. How did the last update changed the behavior of marauders (shield extender and armor plates were buffed)? Or are they still fittet the Sam way as before?
IGN Mathilda Chelien
I couldn't tell you. I only started flying Marauders after the buff :)
Hallo.. nice video :-) u have the fits for all or the pally ??
My fav ship for ratting is the dominix ign--> Khan Heisenberg
vedmak skin, if not that then gila skin
I'm scared to rat in a marauder simply because of the commitment you make to not being able to quickly warp out for minutes at a time using Bastion which is where all the DPS really comes from. I've seen too many vids of marauders getting 1-shot by a titan using MWD warp method and them quickly being able to do the same thing for their safe spot again before anyone can catch the titan, or getting surprise blopsed while in Bastion where you can't warp out if something sus shows up on D-scan or local spikes
Our corp just got our own system in null just for the experience. Not like we could defend against a large null corp war, but it is what it is.
That being said, I'm just about to move a ship there to do some ratting as long as we can. I am trained mostly for the Golem, so seeing the Maurader included was really informative. I'm not too worried about clear times at this point, mostly just content and survivability.
IGN - BigJimSlade Franzenos
so you gave us your ign and made it clear that your corp cant defend your golem if a gang came through and saw ur ign. fly safe o7
@@vinodsiba4823
My statement was about a concerted attack by one of the larger null corps taking the system. Not a few hundred bees leaving our hive for a bit of fun.
That was almost a year ago, my good man. Come on over, now. ;-)
@@BIGxJIMxSLADE come where? I just zkillboard searched your toon. You have a grand total of 1.2b in kills which is the biggest joke ive seen in my life. All your kills are in ouelletta which is a low sec system. You have 0 null experience and 0 pvp experience. 1.2b in total kills? Lmao my guy you are an insect a 5 year old girl could crush. Calm down lmao.
@@vinodsiba4823 You found 1 toon. Congrats. Here's a cookie.
@@BIGxJIMxSLADE your other 2 toons with the name bigjimslade and bigjimslade64 have 0 isk in kills. Why dont you stop embarrassing yourself. Youre a high sec carebear that wouldnt survive 5 seconds in null sec. All your 1.2b worth of kills are big ganks in a fleet. Youve never 1v1 anyone in your life. Lmfao.
The thing with marauder’s is that bastion will get you killed. Carrier is not much slower and way safer.
funny thing is, paladin can ez survive infested carrier spawn i believe... but not in a capstable fit with passive cap regen...
use cap boosters and ur paladin can take 10k DPS
Oh boy, these are some expensive ships to fly for ratting. The best i can afford is a battleship
IGN: Destro Kid , preferred skin : vedmak or gila
Can you make video for 10/10 Drone escalation? Really would like to see how Paladin is going through it? IGN Dragisa Mileghere
Hey there's a video of someone on TH-cam doing a 10/10 on a paladin in 20 mins or whatever you can check that out
Just timed it in a Tengu (see my next video ;) ) ... it took 51mins and 45sec .... so if a Paladin can do them in 20mins that's awesome!
@@NETFQ Can't wait
@@NETFQ im propably way off it was propably something else
Does this make significantly more than blitzing burner missions in high sec?
Why don't the rat's attack your fighters? Can you use a carrier in wormholes? Is it possible to keep your fighters alive?
So if I had an alt who tagged along for the sole purpose of webifying me to get site to site faster, would that be better in the super’s case?
Supers have web resistance do they not?
thx for that comparison
was looking for a goal now after i can fly a vexor in ratting sites.
which is why i´d ask for a vexor-skin if i win
IGN: Uriel Destiny
@Netfq love the video man, I have a question wic amongst the mauraders puts out the most DPS and tanks more?
Ign = Sakura husher......Golem police skin
Could you please share this nidhoggur fit?
Hey always enjoy your videos! I like the marauder over all! But I fly the golem for the range! My In game name is THANK YOU FC I’ll love to have the obelisk skin 😄
And well unless you are in a big bloc chances that you have access to a keep is slim. But with the changes coming to industry and bpo's i might be able to afford to loose a carrier and be
able to rebuild one, not going to burn 8-10b to build a carrier today.
I do have 2 titans and 1 super on sisi and 2 keepstars but on live i live in npc station in low sec so pretty much use Drake, Oracle and such not to expensive ships.
IGN: Thotamon
Obelisk would be cool
Imo paladin is way better than capitals cuz u can easily mjd urself from anomaly with mjd dessie so its 100% safe) ign - Alexan akiga, vedmak skin
I really dont understand why people make these kinds of videos and don't post the fitting anywhere.
Sorry about that ... I've made a video per ship a while ago where I showed the fittings for each ship type. If you'd like to know a specific fitting let me know and I'll post it here for you?
Why are you not using conflagration? You should be able to still hit out to 50km pretty easily
You can shave of 1m30s if you use your bombs on the large wave.
Could you please share this paladin fit?
Here's the Paladin fit:
[Paladin, PvE]
Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer
True Sansha Heat Sink
True Sansha Heat Sink
Multispectrum Coating II
Multispectrum Coating II
True Sansha Heat Sink
True Sansha Heat Sink
Large Micro Jump Drive
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Federation Navy Tracking Computer
Federation Navy Tracking Computer
Mega Pulse Laser II
Heavy Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
Mega Pulse Laser II
Heavy Infectious Scoped Energy Neutralizer
Mega Pulse Laser II
Bastion Module I
True Sansha Large EMP Smartbomb
Mega Pulse Laser II
Large Energy Burst Aerator II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Salvage Drone II x5
Acolyte II x8
Conflagration L x100
Imperial Navy Multifrequency L x100
Scorch L x100
Tracking Speed Script x2
Optimal Range Script x2
Why not mjd the paladin into the middle so you don't have to use scorch the whole time
Because the mega pulse lasers can't track things well at all at close range, best to hit them from a distance - applies dmg better :)
@@NETFQ not true. duel tracking scripts and multi for the small stuff. conflag everything else. you are losing out on so much dps by being scorch only.
@@zeropride1133 The trouble with that is it puts you closer to the site and hence you're quicker to be tackled if a hostile comes on grid ... at least being 70km+ off you have a chance to get away.
aaa thata paly, if you go short range amo +2 optimal scripts and warp to 0 would be actualy faster than a standart carrier with enough tanking to get an infested carrier desiege and warp off OR, if you ti double rep yopu can actualy tank it and kill it with 2 marauders
interesting... ty for the video
you were using the wrong fighter bombers btw, meant to use longrange not capital
I can add one more con to the paladin the price is similar to carrier and if you die insurance carrier is more worth xD
damn it takes you that long in a nid? i use my thanny, give fighters crazy speed and dps mods, and i get it done in 6 minutes tops in a drone horde
I can kill infested carriers with t2 fighters, cant do thr sentient infested carrier though.
I mostly use battlecruisers like myrmidon for ratting
ign: 3 FARTS (gila skin)
you didn't use drones on the paladin
Damn EVE was fun - could never find any friends to play.
Come join MooseArmy in Null!!! :)
huh my 3 ishtars complete a site 3 mins faster than a nid :/ was hoping getting into one would be better than triple boxing
If Paladin turn of bastion on last wave spawn... it wont be faster then Nidhoggur. U didnt turn it off on test. So... - pros.
If an Infested Carrier Spawns then you're pretty much dead (3b isk gone). I like playing it safe ;)
The best ship is the nid you will ndver get caught in it you know you fuck up if you started a new bastion cycle when a neut jumps into the system.
And dont mention that marauders got *slightly* nerfed, they've got 1 min bastion now
well the Nid dies if its undocked sooooo
Did you know Moosearmy is the Best Army?
ign: Gustav Mannfred, Gila skin
hello fellow horde ling
The skin that looks like bacon.
Those carriers always be hoggin the nids.
Dude this is faulty you don't use your bombs in the super 🤦🏼♂️
The speedup music is no good
OMG why that hel never using bomb
bomb is very big different with light fighter
without bombing heavyfighter is
no cheese pizza
Hello. Could you do the same comparison now again please? There were some patches since this video. thanks a lot!
Only golem🤘