JoAnna Oblander's NDE re Suicide
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- Our guest suffered years of migraine headaches, leading to depression so severe she was about to commit suicide. But her grandfather's spirit led her to classrooms where we all train for the hardships of life we agree to, and to God for a review of her assignment here. We are all given assignments for living on Earth, and the opportunity to figure out what they are.
JoAnna Oblander is this week's guest
NDE Radio with Lee Witting January 02, 2023
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It is a blessing, Lee, to share time with souls like ourselves, who have experienced a step beyond, and with voices feel the nearness of fellow human beings. We share in the mutual suffering that we as fellow humans partake of in this complex but beautiful earth.
Happy New Year Lee and fellow listeners!
Much ❤, good health and happiness!
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Thanks Greg! Same to you, and yours!
She learned that our purpose here is develop spiritual qualities that would make us like God and teach us about love. This is the essence of what The Bahai Faith teaches us about why our life's purpose is to develop spiritual qualities to use in the next world! How exciting to hear this confirmation!
Right back at ya ! Cheers to 2023🎉
I've listened to hundreds of NDE experiences now and love this channel but I'm not one bit closer to understanding the purpose of life on earth. All we hear is to "learn, grow" etc, etc but why is that needed when we supposedly return to unconditional love and peace. It doesn't make sense 🌻
Hi Ellie - You ask an important question. I can only guess at an answer from what I’ve learned from my own and others’ Near-Death Experiences. What most NDEs tell us is there is an afterlife offering us the light of unconditional love, if we choose to accept it. Meanwhile, a few distressing NDEs (dNDEs) warn us that loving kindness is the choice we learn to make by how we live our lives. Distressing NDEs are widely unreported because they can be terrifying. People often opt not to talk about them, or to repress them altogether. Remember, only about one in a dozen NDEs get talked about at all, and those are overwhelmingly positive. Nevertheless, distressing NDEs imply a hell exists. It seems to be a hell of separation from love, and it seems to be of our own making. We were created with the free will to choose love over fear. If that weren’t true, then life itself would be a kind of slavery. Some NDErs report we even choose, pre-birth, the challenging circumstances of our lives, and our progress here is weighed according to the degree of challenge. Some also believe we are offered a number of lives for learning through the process of reincarnation. Regardless of the path, our purpose here is to practice love and kindness, rather than fear and cruelty. God loves every one of us regardless, but whether we choose to accept that love, and love God back, is a choice we make for ourselves incrementally every day. That makes our lives on Earth important indeed! Lee
@@NDERadiowithLeeWitting Hi Lee, thanks so much for taking the time to reply with such a considered response. Really appreciate it. You're right about the negative NDE's, I've only heard a handful. Interestingly they all seem to be from those who were heavily indoctrinated with a judgemental God/religion and one to be feared. I've always struggled with the belief that God requires constant, unquestioning worship - thereby ascribing our Creator with a giant human like ego. The majority of NDE's are wonderfully comforting especially after losing loved ones. I suppose the answers to life's most pressing questions will only be fully revealed to us when it's our turn. As you say until then all we can do is try to play our part, however small in making the world a kinder and more compassionate place to be. Thank you again for your reply and for a great channel. Best wishes Ellie 🌷.
Life on Earth: In heaven love is perfect, on earth we are disconnected from this unity, so through this earth condition we have the ability to strengthen our power to be love and create love with great depth, because experiencing disconnection is a great way to understand why love/peace/joy/light is so important which can grow your love ability profoundly. We are not forced to live a life on earth, we each personally wanted to develop our ability to understand and be like Gods love power, so we put ourselves on this mission, and he granted us that. That's why Angels are so respectful to human's, we are soldiers to them.
We come into this world as proverbial kindergarteners. We can progress through the grades or levels of learning. We can be 6th grade dropouts, high school graduates, joint MBA/JD, MD or PHD holders.
With grief as example, we might be devastated to have our goldfish die, but at the other end of the scale, should we have children and spouses predecease us, then we can get into the post doc zone.
These various experiences are strictly academic and nebulous, prior to entry in this world, where stuff gets real.
@@rjsimpkins2911 then we apparently return home to a realm where none of what we've learned is ever needed as there's only love.
Absolutely amazing. Thankyou for sharing. 🙏
A long awaited video, THANK YOU
Amazing , thank you for sharing .
I can feel how God has touched her soul 🙏
I went WILD for this video. SUPERB interview.
Loved the part of we don't care about how enjoyable our lives will be when choosing our experiences in heaven, but what experiences will strengthen our ability to be and create love/be more like God 🤍
what a blessing thank you
You and your husband were so connected , incredible!! Life is a mystery, sometimes we must accept things we dont understand.
Thank you, wonderful interview.
Blessings Rev. Lee on the work that you do here. Love this NDE story but I won't buy the book I have enough of those already LOL. This is a remarkable story I love it ❤
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thank you!
Would be interested in the back story of how she met her husband
She experienced what she believes in , as we all do 😊
I hope you're right as that means that I will be immediately reunited with all my beloved pets ❤️❤️❤️
We all have different experiences because God takes us on an individual basis.. Just as earthly parents should deal with each child on an individual basis because of our needs, our talents, and our personalities are ALL different, so when we have different NDEs, it's a teaching experience based on who we are as a person and what growth we have already obtained.
God is always teaching us.. Therefore the way we have an experience in an NDE will never be a "cookie cutter" pattern experience.
All people having an NDE are only seeing glimpses of the Other Side.. It's only a snippet of what's in a heavenly realm.
These NDES are not in our imagination.. But are glimpses of heaven. Not snippets of an "imagined" experience.
If you believe in nothing? Then there will be nothing period.
This was a great one
Why does God NEED US to be perfect? Why does a God need us lowly humans for anything at all??
I don’t think “HE” does. As lowly human beings that do not live outside of time and space, how could we EVER understand, comprehend, or even imagine an Omnipotent, Omniscient,
Omnipresent,
Immutable,
Incorporeal,
Transcendent,
Immanent,
GOD?
An Eternal GOD, without beginning nor end? It is really possible??
Hi Diana - God needs us, and we need God, because love is the underlying, unifying essence of creation. Love purifies our imperfections -- our love leads us toward the light, and God’s love brings us the rest of the way home. Lee
@@NDERadiowithLeeWitting if God has a need then that means God isn't full, that God is missing something. Isn't one just giving human characteristics to God when we say that God "needs" something?
@@christopherjordan9707 Hi Christopher - You’re right the word “need” implies an element that “love” doesn’t necessarily include. I think of it this way: Love created everything out of itself, and like a force of conscious gravity, it naturally draws us back to itself because we are of the same nature. But we were created with a gift/curse of free will that tests our harmony with the One, so we don’t have to return to our source if we choose not to. Lee
@@NDERadiowithLeeWitting perfectly said… thank you!
When her grandfather led her to her heavenly classroom and she saw and interacted with God, I wonder if that whole environment was created by God in order to present to her spiritually limited self a conventional point of reference as to how God might operate. But in "fact", the classroom was a spiritual fabrication by God to ease her unease. Perhaps the real way that God arranges all our circumstances is so mathematically abstract that it is beyond the capability of a soul to fully comprehend, so God concocted a spiritual illusion for her.
Anyone know if the host is LDS??
Hi Choctawnic - Thanks for your question. Here’s a brief rundown of my religious background: I was raised Catholic following my NDE when I drowned at age seven. My high school was a protestant boarding school, and I studied Eastern Religions at Columbia University. My wife, son and I spent nearly a year living in a VW camper, visiting Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and pagan religious sites in Europe and the Middle East. We raised our kids, religion-wise, in Quaker (Society of Friends) meeting houses, and I tested my notions of reality through the psychedelics of the late 1960’s. I’ve prayed/meditated in the Dome of the Rock and at the Wailing Wall, in the King’s Chamber of the Great Pyramid and the underground churches of Lalibela, Ethiopia, and celebrated the Summer Solstice within Stonehenge. I didn’t start my graduate work in a Congregational seminary until I was 53, and got my doctorate in NDE Studies there. During that time, my wife and I started a church/theater in Bangor, Maine, where we wrote and produced religious theater for nearly 20 years - most notably annual Passion Plays. My wife and I co-pastored that church, while I worked for 15 years as a non-denominational hospital chaplain at Eastern Maine Medical Center. In 2013 I started NDE Radio, and have interviewed nearly 500 NDErs, of all faiths and no faiths, from around the world. Thanks for asking! Lee
Choctawnic - I do think JoAnna is, though.
Wow! I'm very impressed Lee, by your extensive foundation to prepare you for this channel! Thanks for this most excellent episode and the whole channel.
I must confess any account of an afterlife that only mentions a masculine God “father” seems incomplete to me. We’ve all got a momma! 😃 While I deeply respect people’s individual NDE experiences, NDE research has shown that these events are deeply influenced by our cultural/religious upbringing. Christianity has done the world a massive disservice by deliberately obliterating the feminine from its story
I understand God is unisex. But it's easier for me to refer to "him" as "he" because though God is a nurturer, he's a protector as well, and its always been traditional to see masculine energy as he/protecting. I'm completely fine with it. I believe the point to focus on is how to strengthen ourselves in his image of outstanding love/light.
If we have a father, reason says we have a mother too. I speculate that since various derivatives of both God & Jesus are 2 of top 3 cusswords, it was a wise decision to keep mom's name out of our mouths, perhaps so we won't have a Will Smith-Chris Rock moment?
Rebel is exactly the word you want to use.
I love these, but you should really stop telling us the story before the person tells us.
I’m guessing that JoAnna is Mormon