This rules, great video!! New subscriber :) I recently did a "make 23 songs in 23 days" challenge to learn production & all the stuff that goes along with it (basics of midi drums, EQing etc), learned SO much more than if I'd just watched a load of youtube videos. The great thing about learning by doing is that you run into genuine problems organically and then are very motivated to solve the exact correct problem at the correct time, rather than thinking you have to "study" everything before you even begin. (Vid of me ranking the 23 songs th-cam.com/video/YGNxfy_3RVI/w-d-xo.html) Ira Glass says here in an addendum to The Gap "just create NOW - it can be the shitty version of the thing that you improve down the road" th-cam.com/video/E7rCOlqGVQU/w-d-xo.html
Just imagine dropping music albums at the very beginning of ur musical career and the audience that finds you grows together with you along as you get better at ur craft…
Amazing to be honest. No clue who you are, this video was an algorithm recommend but holy shit fantastic. This should be screened at schools. One of the best musical philosophical bits I’ve ever seen. Iconic.
Totally support this. This is exactly what I did. Wanted to write poetry, then rap, so I started making beats (had some music backround from playing trumpet in the school band) but basically had no idea what I was doing, wrote and arranged thousands of songs learning along the way. They were all quite bad for years, but continued to progress and I’ve learned and developed so much throughout that time.
love the advice. even as a teacher-in-training, I feel "learning by doing" is so crucial - the only things I ever got good at were things I made rather than studied. glad to see others share this viewpoint. thanks!
I think you may well be onto something. I've noticed that much rock and pop music, if you listen to it carefully, is frequently composed of quite simple parts.That is, each instrument is often quite minimally played, and it is the combination of all these instruments that can produce a much more complex and interesting sound. It isn't necessarily that hard to play a few chords on guitar or keyboards, finger a bass, hit some drum pads, and so on. Even solos, sometimes, can be quite simple to execute. Today's audio workstations can do wonders with the tonality and effects offered, and that's true even without using any of the preprogrammed loops and such. Of course learning the software takes some study, but there are tons of excellent demos on this site with knowledgeable people sharing their skills. Now classical music and jazz, is of course a whole other ball of wax. But I think you're providing a service, Jonny, in encouraging people to just get out there, experiment, and HAVE FUN!
@matthewbrown7572 I'm working on some stuff myself, Checking out your stuff now! I'm always excited to hear new music and hear what people are doing with it!
I think it’s good to keep in mind very clearly what your creative purpose is while going through the process of learning something. Otherwise you wander into this limitless space of things you need to learn and improve. I also think recording yourself is one of the best things you can do while learning an instrument. But I don’t think you necessarily should set out to create something when you can barely play anything. Because even simple things need to be played with some level of technique to end up with something coherent. If your timing is crap, or your tone is not articulate enough it will just sound like mush. Let alone instruments that require intonation. But I think that a beginner mindset is something of value, and it can be cool to listen back to what you were doing when you were starting out, and draw inspiration from those things.
Bass piano and organ all learnt Making ten demo albums. Now got our first proper album out hopefully this wee. Just waiting for the mastering. The single we released is on vinyl and I bloody love it!
Totally agree, ive been doing music for 4 years now and im about to put out my 2nd album and im not a perfect player but i pour alot of myself into my music and im really proud of where ive gotten to so far. Dont let people who are more studied stomp out your shine, be you and be okay with that! Music is all about expression so keep that as the essence of what you do
This what I did to learn guitar. I made an album and worked with a Grammy winning engineer and other talented individuals on it. It gave me so much motivation to make something amazing. It drops on Nov 23rd :)
Yes! Learning by doing and learning from direct experience is the best way to live the most genuine life in my opinion. As a more creatively inclined individual, only this makes sense to me, so I highly support this message!!!
This video pushed me to release th-cam.com/video/xMVojMi4CR0/w-d-xo.html - arranged directly in Lightworks, with a combination of loops, FX, and vocals both bought and created
Exactly what I've been doing!!! Had a music course with Mike Monday who teachs this exactly, to learn by doing. I even released the songs I made as a super super beginner to motivate me to continue with creating and I have to say it helps even if the songs are crap lol, there are some good things about them though and I could even remake them in the future, when I'm better ...... :) :) :)
you fucking rock dude i really relate to what you’re talking about thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge, cracked up when u said glockenspiel, haven’t heard that one in a while. i began learning guitar two years, i got stuck into theory within the first 8 months w the goal of understand the songs i love and have been learning so i can make something myself, i haven’t really stopped digging into it since learning new theory stuff and songs to compliment that is so addictive. i feel like now is the time to relax with the theory and try and create more n have a little more fun.
As much as I appreciate this sentiment and do believe there's some huge benefits to this approach, a degree of some study will be unavoidable, If someone's a pure guitar beginner, they're not gonna have any map, they likely won't even know how to get a sound out of the instrument without some guidance, take a saxophone for example reed instruments or even a flute for that matter your embachure will likely have to be learned
I suck at studying, suck at dedicating time to practice, just generally undisciplined in that sense. But I love making music and showing it to people, and so I've learned everything I've learned by just writing and producing songs. But it works cus ultimately that's my whole reason for wanting to get better at these things - so I can write more music I'm proud of
this is exactly what i needed at exactly the right time. i’ve been wanting to do exactly that for a while now i’m just procrastinating and need motivation lol
Glad to see some honest and brilliant videos like this without any bullshit. The ideas are so great, this really makes sense, I think the same way as you, but the way you presented it makes it much clearer for me now, thank you very much for this video. You have a good one too pal
This rules, great video!! New subscriber :)
I recently did a "make 23 songs in 23 days" challenge to learn production & all the stuff that goes along with it (basics of midi drums, EQing etc), learned SO much more than if I'd just watched a load of youtube videos. The great thing about learning by doing is that you run into genuine problems organically and then are very motivated to solve the exact correct problem at the correct time, rather than thinking you have to "study" everything before you even begin.
(Vid of me ranking the 23 songs th-cam.com/video/YGNxfy_3RVI/w-d-xo.html)
Ira Glass says here in an addendum to The Gap "just create NOW - it can be the shitty version of the thing that you improve down the road" th-cam.com/video/E7rCOlqGVQU/w-d-xo.html
My favorite part is how it looks like a high-res 1970s recording
Hair is my favorite musical
Just imagine dropping music albums at the very beginning of ur musical career and the audience that finds you grows together with you along as you get better at ur craft…
Amazing to be honest. No clue who you are, this video was an algorithm recommend but holy shit fantastic. This should be screened at schools. One of the best musical philosophical bits I’ve ever seen. Iconic.
Totally support this. This is exactly what I did. Wanted to write poetry, then rap, so I started making beats (had some music backround from playing trumpet in the school band) but basically had no idea what I was doing, wrote and arranged thousands of songs learning along the way. They were all quite bad for years, but continued to progress and I’ve learned and developed so much throughout that time.
literally doing this rn couldn’t have seen this at a better time
Same
@@rtsnto7877same same
Same same
love the advice. even as a teacher-in-training, I feel "learning by doing" is so crucial - the only things I ever got good at were things I made rather than studied. glad to see others share this viewpoint. thanks!
I think you may well be onto something. I've noticed that much rock and pop music, if you listen to it carefully, is frequently composed of quite simple parts.That is, each instrument is often quite minimally played, and it is the combination of all these instruments that can produce a much more complex and interesting sound. It isn't necessarily that hard to play a few chords on guitar or keyboards, finger a bass, hit some drum pads, and so on. Even solos, sometimes, can be quite simple to execute. Today's audio workstations can do wonders with the tonality and effects offered, and that's true even without using any of the preprogrammed loops and such. Of course learning the software takes some study, but there are tons of excellent demos on this site with knowledgeable people sharing their skills. Now classical music and jazz, is of course a whole other ball of wax. But I think you're providing a service, Jonny, in encouraging people to just get out there, experiment, and HAVE FUN!
I like it. I've taken this approach and have put out 4 albums and I'm working on the 5th. Best Jonny.
Are they on Apple Music?
@@nicolaischweizer3708 Yes, under the name Theophilus Grant. Thanks for asking.
@matthewbrown7572 I'm working on some stuff myself, Checking out your stuff now! I'm always excited to hear new music and hear what people are doing with it!
I think it’s good to keep in mind very clearly what your creative purpose is while going through the process of learning something. Otherwise you wander into this limitless space of things you need to learn and improve.
I also think recording yourself is one of the best things you can do while learning an instrument.
But I don’t think you necessarily should set out to create something when you can barely play anything. Because even simple things need to be played with some level of technique to end up with something coherent. If your timing is crap, or your tone is not articulate enough it will just sound like mush. Let alone instruments that require intonation. But I think that a beginner mindset is something of value, and it can be cool to listen back to what you were doing when you were starting out, and draw inspiration from those things.
The way you swallowed your frustration with LoFi as a genre in the middle of this video is impressive and admirable
😂
IT MADE ME CACKLE AHHAHA
I think the background and the mud are beautiful it complements the message in a way ❤
The b-roll is brilliant.
This is gold.
Harmonica and glockenspiel being called out, directed at me woo
Bass piano and organ all learnt Making ten demo albums. Now got our first proper album out hopefully this wee. Just waiting for the mastering. The single we released is on vinyl and I bloody love it!
Totally agree, ive been doing music for 4 years now and im about to put out my 2nd album and im not a perfect player but i pour alot of myself into my music and im really proud of where ive gotten to so far. Dont let people who are more studied stomp out your shine, be you and be okay with that! Music is all about expression so keep that as the essence of what you do
This found me at the right time
Doooooooooooooooo IIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
This what I did to learn guitar. I made an album and worked with a Grammy winning engineer and other talented individuals on it. It gave me so much motivation to make something amazing.
It drops on Nov 23rd :)
Dude, love this. I'm working on an album myself right now, and this just made me feel like I'm on the right track. Thank you
I didn't realise I needed to watch this video. Thank you for this reminder that we just need to do stuff and learn as you go.
Yes! Learning by doing and learning from direct experience is the best way to live the most genuine life in my opinion. As a more creatively inclined individual, only this makes sense to me, so I highly support this message!!!
beautiful color grading. how is this look achieved?
My guess would be by stuffing the camera up your
This video pushed me to release th-cam.com/video/xMVojMi4CR0/w-d-xo.html - arranged directly in Lightworks, with a combination of loops, FX, and vocals both bought and created
@@HillHand Just listened, amazing work! The bassline in the 2nd half is NUTS
Pinned cause yt can be weird about links in comments
@@JonnyMozza I appreciate that! I felt weird about linking it at all, but yeah I've been NOT publishing this for like nine months.
Very well said and very inspiring.
You sir, are correct. I like your birds as well.
this is phenomenal
Exactly what I've been doing!!! Had a music course with Mike Monday who teachs this exactly, to learn by doing. I even released the songs I made as a super super beginner to motivate me to continue with creating and I have to say it helps even if the songs are crap lol, there are some good things about them though and I could even remake them in the future, when I'm better ......
:) :) :)
you fucking rock dude i really relate to what you’re talking about thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge, cracked up when u said glockenspiel, haven’t heard that one in a while. i began learning guitar two years, i got stuck into theory within the first 8 months w the goal of understand the songs i love and have been learning so i can make something myself, i haven’t really stopped digging into it since learning new theory stuff and songs to compliment that is so addictive. i feel like now is the time to relax with the theory and try and create more n have a little more fun.
As much as I appreciate this sentiment and do believe there's some huge benefits to this approach, a degree of some study will be unavoidable, If someone's a pure guitar beginner, they're not gonna have any map, they likely won't even know how to get a sound out of the instrument without some guidance, take a saxophone for example reed instruments or even a flute for that matter your embachure will likely have to be learned
Thanks so much for this, such a ground breaking process. Active learning approach, the way forward!
Loved this video, very original and organic content with no hooks or bs
I suck at studying, suck at dedicating time to practice, just generally undisciplined in that sense. But I love making music and showing it to people, and so I've learned everything I've learned by just writing and producing songs. But it works cus ultimately that's my whole reason for wanting to get better at these things - so I can write more music I'm proud of
this is exactly what i needed at exactly the right time. i’ve been wanting to do exactly that for a while now i’m just procrastinating and need motivation lol
@@sirbonple thaaaank yoooouu yeah make some make some music it's gonna be really good music I'm telling you
I really didn't expect to see young Werner Herzog explaining to me how to learn an instrument
I love this!
impeccable timing my friend. Great video
This is exactly what I needed to hear!
This was really helpful , I’m on the midi drums phase
This was really cool Jonny. Just subscribed 👍
A lot of words that made sense to hear. A sort of sense that has eluded me until now.
High quality content, thank you for the video! Don't know how I got here, but I did, subscribed.
Thank you ❤
This is amazing.
Hey what did you film this on? Love the look :)!
Canon c100 mk. 1, 50mm usm lens, thank you very much aye
This video tickled my brain
Glad to see some honest and brilliant videos like this without any bullshit. The ideas are so great, this really makes sense, I think the same way as you, but the way you presented it makes it much clearer for me now, thank you very much for this video. You have a good one too pal
loved this video exept the part you called bass basically a guitar
Lmao apologies for that oversight
First! Always wanted to do that.
thankful for u💯
thanks for that video man.
Thank you Jonny
i have been preaching a similar thing, i told people to learn art by making a comic, an animation or a conspt art book
I think I might try this bit out, maybe not a full album just a single or ep
thank you
It’s what I do with obscure instruments on this channel.
i fw this
Hey! I loved the video, very sound advice (hehe). I'm curious as to what kind of camera you used to film this? I like the look.
Heyo, thanks for the kind words, I use a Canon C100 mk 1, I think this vid I had a 50mm usm lens on it (2nd cheapest one)
@ Thanks for the reply, it means more than you know! 😃
I have said Learn By Doing ! But I thought I was unique !! 😂
looks pretty back ther. n i like the mud. or else.
I want to make a short film that looks just like this video. How’d you edit this to get that look?
Bro i had just this idea today
I’m thirty seconds in and thank you I love you
Instant like
You remind me deeply of George Harrison
Subbed my brother
exaactly
make an album!
frank zappa!
do you really feel like your music gets progressively better as time goes on?
most certainly
@@JonnyMozza I hope to feel that again sir ! this has encouraged me to try new ways of doing things
Chord progression maker link, anyone?🥹
The one I use is called onemotion chord player
lofi💀
thank you based jonny.
Thank you for this video!!!