New York, Susquehanna & Western No. 3040 creates a bit of chaos as it leads its eight-car train northbound on Utica, NY's Schuyler Street the late afternoon of Feb 4, 2020.
Terrific video!! I grew up just one block away on Stark Street. For those "youngster's" criticizing the idea of running tracks down a city street, those rails were laid down around a hundred years ago. There was never a problem with vehicles until "modern times'" when people have become high strung, always in a hurry to get somewhere, and down right rude. The RR tracks served all industry (still does) including the West End Brewery. Rich Lemanski
Daver Thanks for putting some clarity to it, Rich. Street running can be interesting, to say the least. Oakland, CA has a section of it by Jack London Sq. Even Amtrak “street runs” thru there, a couple times a day.
This street has businesses on it, churches, is part of the boilermaker road race, and has the saranac brewery right around the corner, schools up the street, and is a highway access road. Impossible to close it to cars.
A perfect demonstration of human nature: one guy gets the hell off the street, everybody else tries to cut it as close as possible because let's make everything complicated and stressful in every possible way.
Reminds me of how people will cut across lanes of traffic narrowly avoiding an accident instead of just taking the next intersection and turning around, which in most cases costs you a minute or less
When i was in Las Vegas years ago i used to routinely catch lifts on the UP local trains. If your timing was good and there was one coming or going out of the Charleston yard it was a nice hitch.
That loco should just give a warning signal, and then go regardless of whether the cars move or not. Soon enough the word will get out, and people will stop being stupid.
Lol, that would've been something if the train came to an abrupt stop and the car rear-ended the train. Try explaining that to the cops and insurance company lol.
Ingenious to use a stretch for both vehicles and trains. That way either the street was there first or the train tracks were. Then you don't have to build separate streets/tracks. Of course I do remember street cars.
It's probably a tossup which came first... in the 1800s it was common to have tracks serving sidings for businesses. Cars and truck didn't exist back then, and the whole purpose of roads versus rails was very different from what we expect today.
Best part is that the local hospital is building a 9 story hospital to replace three that are no where near these tracks ,this track is only about 1000 feet from the main line that goes through the state. The hospital is only going to be about 500 feet from this track that now sees at least 1 train a day if not two.
...What...????.....I never saw a Train coming Down a Busy, People Filled, Traffic Filled Street....!!!!....Train Tracks are Usually on the Outskirts of the Town----Good Grief, this Looks Dangerous.....!!!!......:(
I couldn't imagine sharing the road with one of those things. I grew up in a town that had a crossing where the trains would stop and block the road for 20 minutes or more. Thankfully I now live in a town with a bridge.
Well, change that. 2000-2010 had the growth rate reverse back to positive (2.5%+). 2010-2020 build in that at 5% growth, high for the NE. The city has a lot of potential, and there are interesting projects going on the past few years. Getting Bagg's Square back into shape since it's the popular human friendly zoning that got phased out with car-centric urban "progress" seems a priority as well. We should capitalise on (and safeguard) our food scenes. We're about the same size as Santa Barbara, so let's do something with what we have rather than whining about it. Get involved.
There lots of Poles here!! (And other Slavs as well), there Polish Community-Centres as well . My family is Rusyn, my grandfather could speak our language, English and Polish :)
That actually happened like 5 years ago. The train was sitting a few blocks away and kids climbed on the train hitting the break. It went through this area of town hitting cars along the way. I used to live in utica til last year. There was ALWAYS some kinda drama
Reminds me of Rogers Avenue, San Jose California. Trains, big trucks full of scrap metal, hobos on bikes with trash bags full of cans, a lunch truck or three, contractors picking up building materials, just a little bit of everything...
Drank Utica Club in high school. When I went into the Air Force, I was stationed at Griffiss AFB in Rome NY (a little north of Utica). A man fell into one of the Utica Club beer vats and drown. They didn't find the body until the vat was empty, and the beer was bottled and sold from the vat. I remember watching the story on the local news. Never drank Utica Club again!
@@MetalMama-zb4wg I believe your safe to drink Utica Club again. Either the "a man fell into the vat" story didn't happen or Matt Brewing has one hell of a PR firm that was able to erase all mentions of the incidence. I could find no articles or citations for the story. I'm going to lean towards didn't happen.
@@ericgroat626 wheeling wv 17th street,right down de middle, on my way 2 school if a train was coming I didn't go 2 school, hopped it 2 conway yard in Pittsburgh or other way 2 benwood wv.
Nice video. I hit the 👍 and I subscribed. Watching the video I was like, "yikes! That's a tight squeeze". Good that the train was going through slowly, bc the cars on road were getting out of way slowly 😬.
This kinda reminds me of those crowded markets in Thailand, or countries like that where everyone and everything are right up on top of the train tracks in narrow passageways. Every time a train comes through, all the merchants and people roll their tents and stuff up to keep from getting run over until it has passed, then they all settle back down on the tracks.
i think it happened the other way around - but still who would build train tracks in the middle of a city street? my guess is this was done long before modern urban planning was a thing.. don't understand why they can't rebuild tracks somewhere else tho
Michele Pace because that cost a lot of money. Just building a mile of railroad track is a big sum of money. The railroad was there first and they all have that we were here first mentality too.
4:05 numb-nuts in the black truck - he aint gonna move for NOBODY...............................you've only gotta get one scratch on your car from that thing ..........WHAT CAR !!!!!
Ironically the Southern's successor now own some of the NYSW fleet of engines (now 3 retired sd70m's) and many other sd70 series locomotives except the ACe
Why would anyone not want cars parked right next to railroad tracks? Clearly the logical thing to do is to make everything as complicated and stressful as possible for everyone everywhere.
IT IS! especially because it's super narrow. Utica doesn't care about making no parking zones on city streets, no matter how dangerous. This is right around the corner gettin the brewery too. Train coming down is even more fun when streets are packed because of a brewery event
It might seems bizarre today in our automobile-centric world, but in the 1800s it made better sense. In Syracuse, the New York Central's main line ran down Washington Street, about a block south of the Erie Canal. Between the railroads and canal for freight and longer distance passenger travel, and streetcars to get around the city, it wasn't a big deal to accommodate pedestrians and wagons on the same streets with various tracks.
First, this is an off-beat side street. This is not any of the main streets in this city. Second, Not really. Urban design has just become much more car-centric so a lot has changed. This city was a rival in size to Philadelphia and in the top 28 in size for a good chunk of US history. Late twentieth century saw a massive population decline, and now it's seeing a population resurgence again. This train doesn't run that frequently that having only tracks would make sense, and there are businesses along the route (which have also been served by the train itself), it's simply dual use and open to traffic when then train is not in motion like any trolly or tram or electric bus. There are simple detours one can make if they're going around anyways. It's a non-issue.
"Oh this is a *fine* mess you've gotten us into Bob. I told you to stay on the mainline but nooooo.. you *had* to take the scenic route. If any of those hoppers gets a ticket for running a red that's coming out of *your* paycheck, Bob. Darned rookie engineers!"
You think this is unusual, there is a train that runs right though the local crosswalks of the Orlando sports arena. I was experienced enough not to wait on the crossing while there was bumper to bumper traffic getting into the parking garage, before the Jonas Brothers concert. The gates went down awfully close to the hood of my rental car with my wife and 2 daughters in the car also. Many kids were crossing the tracks also, some had a few drinks I bet. What could go wrong there? Yikes
It only seems crazy because we think in terms of streets paved for cars and trucks; in the 1800s the tracks carried bulk freight to and from businesses, and the street around the tracks only had to serve pedestrians and wagons.
That is too cool with the train coming down the street and the hanging traffic signal and the train signals all working together! As for the people in their cars, please don't vote or procreate!!!!!
@yankeesfor28 wats cracking Yankee? I'm 56 years old with no children. I'm not qualified to raise another human being so I will not procreate. And as far as voting I'm disabled so it's really hard to get to a voting station laugh out loud so I probably won't be voting either. Anyway Yankee you take it easy..
Okay I have to say that is totally awesome I have not ever seen that before that would be a sight to see I would just go to New York just to see that and that would be it😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲WOW!!
i love that the train still comes thru utica like this it can be scary and dangerous at times but its cool how ever a fun fact for people to know about utica n.y. is many yrs ago we were a rail yard the whole city was tracks for a couple 100 years almost before they build a small city on it
They could but one NY winter and those marking would be gone! I grew up and spent most of my life in that neighborhood. If memory serves me right where the city worker parked and the lady with the silver car parked are no parking anytime spots. Morons!
Back about 20 years ago, they made it illegal to use oil based paint on streets. That stuff could last 3-4 years in a medium traffic area. All the new stuff is either water or latex based, and starts breaking down in weeks from UV or salt. Here in Southwestern Ontario(CDN), they paint lines in very late summer or in the early fall near the start of Oct. By February the paint loses 40-75% visibility. Now you might think why not reflectors, well first you have to cut divots in the street deep enough so plows won't hit them, the second thing is they don't use epoxy based binders between the road and reflectors now either. Most places it's a water based adhesive, and a single thaw cycle can pop them out too. Simply? Not worth the hassle.
And they just st there like the train is going to move!!! This happens how often?? They just don't care!!! Let's see if we can get hit!!! When will they learn???
Dude I'm from this place and it's the norm back home. The train goes thru there like once a week and no one EVER gets hit by the train.... It's not like a train just came out of no where dumb Ass lol
Why do they even allow parking on that street ? The railroad owns 50' from center of track on either side . Park at your own risk or a GP-40 is going to side swipe your vehicle !
@Electric Ave Come on now, the railroad would not do something so dangerous. The rail line was there first, but since it was seldom used the city decided to put a street there. The general population is not too bright when it comes to trains. I rode with an engineer one time through downtown Longview Wa, and I was shocked at the number of IDIOTS that ran through the flashing red lights. The Engineer said that it did not bother him any more. He said that if these idiots wanted to commit suicide, it was ok with him. He said that he has hit several cars in his years of running the train. He said that nobody has been killed, but most of them were hurt. Some were hurt bad. Imagine being pushed for 2 or 3 city blocks while your body was caught between the train and your car. IF a person would survive something like this, I would just about guarantee that they would not "run" the flashing lights again! He was only going 25 MPH, but it was downhill, and we were pulling 85 railcars of logs. The brakes were already red hot from coming off the mountain.
The rail line has been there way, way, way longer then that roadway has been there. The sad part of all this is that the area is so economically depressed, (and has been for eons now) that the city, nor the railroad, have any monies whatsoever to spend to re-route that spur line which could have been done by re-locating/re-building it about 1/4 - 1/2 mile to the east from its present location so that it could run right alongside a newly reconstructed North-South Arterial route.
Guy turns right, sees train directly in front of him, nearly has a heart attack! He sure beat feet outa there!
And I bet he had nightmares about that for a week!
Some people just don't want to play chicken with a train.
I'm one.
@@jerrymiller276 Holy LOSE. LOSE , Batman.
at least he is the only one who shows some reaction.
fricken hilarious I died when I saw that
Random person visiting: Seems like a quaint and peaceful neighborhood.
The train: Allow me to introduce myself.
trust me nothing about that area is quaint or peaceful quite honestly, it's the opposite nowadays
Terrific video!! I grew up just one block away on Stark Street. For those "youngster's" criticizing the idea of running tracks down a city street, those rails were laid down around a hundred years ago. There was never a problem with vehicles until "modern times'" when people have become high strung, always in a hurry to get somewhere, and down right rude. The RR tracks served all industry (still does) including the West End Brewery. Rich Lemanski
Daver Thanks for putting some clarity to it, Rich. Street running can be interesting, to say the least. Oakland, CA has a section of it by Jack London Sq. Even Amtrak “street runs” thru there, a couple times a day.
So, make that/those streets for the train only, parking behind the homes via alleyway access?
@@chordsofgratitude2073 there is no "alleyway access." Pull up the intersection on Google Maps if you're confused.
I lived on Stark in the mid 80s.
This street has businesses on it, churches, is part of the boilermaker road race, and has the saranac brewery right around the corner, schools up the street, and is a highway access road. Impossible to close it to cars.
"Why were you late?
"I was stuck behind a train in traffic."
"What crossing?"
"No crossing, the middle of the street!"
...So Funny....!!!
"😲🤯"
Incredíble but real
I'm sure that chaos is the norm rather than the exception for street running train crews. Another great catch!
Especially in Utica, not a fun town to drive in....
That Ford Escape was like "Ohhhh Hell Naw!!!"
A perfect demonstration of human nature: one guy gets the hell off the street, everybody else tries to cut it as close as possible because let's make everything complicated and stressful in every possible way.
They probably thought the train could swerve around them.🤣
Reminds me of how people will cut across lanes of traffic narrowly avoiding an accident instead of just taking the next intersection and turning around, which in most cases costs you a minute or less
This gives me an idea for my new Lionel train layout to have a street running section in which the train plows through parked cars.
😂😂
People must call you "Gomez" lol.
@@Cryptonymicus
Why would they call him "Gomez"? I don't get it.
@@michaelpalmieri7335 Character in the TV show The Addams Family, he liked to wreck his model trains. Observe,th-cam.com/video/HMxJtMoTnx8/w-d-xo.html
Yea right like that never happens in real life .........
Cuts to video showing train plowing through parked cars .
I'll never underestimate the stupidity of some people.
My precise thoughts. I'm thankful every day that I was given a functioning brain.
Like this whole town involved
for placing a rail line in a suburban street??
Rob Kelly that rail line was there before the street was as is the case for almost all rail lines.
I regularly find people are more stupid than I gave them credit for.
So instead of walking down the street to the store or a friend's house, I could just jump on the train from my porch and ride it for about 5 blocks! 😎
Thats how i see it
sounds like fun!
Some kid did that near where I live, lost his grip & legs as a result.
When i was in Las Vegas years ago i used to routinely catch lifts on the UP local trains. If your timing was good and there was one coming or going out of the Charleston yard it was a nice hitch.
actually yea
This is at the intersection of Brainless Avenue and Moron Road.
amen
Exactly, people there with no common sense.
I think the tracks were there before the town.
That loco should just give a warning signal, and then go regardless of whether the cars move or not. Soon enough the word will get out, and people will stop being stupid.
Isn’t that right off Dumbass Road
The town worker, too lazy to move
Mike Madden. 🤑 Just your tax dollars hard at work, was that a city work truck?
Mike Madden could have been a utility company’s truck
I'm guessing you are unemployed.
An,...No. City of Utica DPW worker. They are far far worse!
i hope that train driver reported him
Lol that car tailgating the train at the end.
lawnmowerdude Ha! Car thinks it’s a caboose!
Lol, that would've been something if the train came to an abrupt stop and the car rear-ended the train. Try explaining that to the cops and insurance company lol.
I've actually followed this train up the street one time. It's a strange experience. 😅
He’s letting the train know how impatient he is so maybe the train will speed up or pull over for him 😂
@Avery Grier I've very aware of that, but that train wasn't moving that fast.
My dad use to take me trout fishing near this town. It was the most amazing thing to see the train coming at you when you wouldn't expect it 👍
City*
Looks like a nice hood, peaceful, quiet, clam and with free train rides.
CALM as a clam that is......
Good thing everyone is alert, focused, at-the-ready, and immediately responsive.
Did we just watch the same video?
Rat Builder he was being ironic!
Always something interesting happening on Schuyler Street, it seems! Nice catch.
The person in that SUV turning right definitely filled their shorts.
I wonder if Waze has a find the nearest dumpster feature for moments like that?
Thank you for that, awesome... I love to see trains but I like that this chaos keeps us humble, and we see that life is not all about us...
Newwww YAWK, the lights will inspire you.
Outstanding! I Love New York.
Wow! That was a close shave!
Ingenious to use a stretch for both vehicles and trains. That way either the street was there first or the train tracks were. Then you don't have to build separate streets/tracks. Of course I do remember street cars.
It's probably a tossup which came first... in the 1800s it was common to have tracks serving sidings for businesses. Cars and truck didn't exist back then, and the whole purpose of roads versus rails was very different from what we expect today.
Great video and catch! The fun of dealing with street running, lol.
I thought that city truck (the dump truck with it's back to the camera) was going to get hit! Excellent vid like always!
0:25 That moment you realize you made the wrong turn.
... Ooops!
Now that was some fancy driving! It was awesome seeing the engine and cars so closely. Excellent video.
Best part is that the local hospital is building a 9 story hospital to replace three that are no where near these tracks ,this track is only about 1000 feet from the main line that goes through the state. The hospital is only going to be about 500 feet from this track that now sees at least 1 train a day if not two.
...What...????.....I never saw a Train coming Down a Busy, People Filled, Traffic Filled Street....!!!!....Train Tracks are Usually on the Outskirts of the Town----Good Grief, this Looks Dangerous.....!!!!......:(
This is what happens when planning for future development is low priority.
I wonder if this was OSHA approved? 🤣🤣
Damn could you imagine that thing barreling through at 60mph
You seem to catch all the great shots, thank you!
I couldn't imagine sharing the road with one of those things. I grew up in a town that had a crossing where the trains would stop and block the road for 20 minutes or more. Thankfully I now live in a town with a bridge.
Lol 😂
I think Utica’s better days were like 50 years ago....
Isn't that applicable to most small towns?
@@michigandon Its amazing to see how many small towns are basically nothing...
More like 110 years ago
Well, change that. 2000-2010 had the growth rate reverse back to positive (2.5%+). 2010-2020 build in that at 5% growth, high for the NE.
The city has a lot of potential, and there are interesting projects going on the past few years. Getting Bagg's Square back into shape since it's the popular human friendly zoning that got phased out with car-centric urban "progress" seems a priority as well. We should capitalise on (and safeguard) our food scenes. We're about the same size as Santa Barbara, so let's do something with what we have rather than whining about it. Get involved.
Wow, great video ! All the best from Poland, +
There lots of Poles here!! (And other Slavs as well), there Polish Community-Centres as well . My family is Rusyn, my grandfather could speak our language, English and Polish :)
The sound quality of this video is awesome! I like being able to hear the Locomotives engine rev with all the turbo whistle.
Crazy. Great catch.
Local authority or even the railroad needs to paint big yellow "no stopping" markings on the trains 'footprint' either side of the tracks :(
Not "footprints", it's called the clearance distance and its 5.5 ft from center of gauge min
ImpsMyPimp yeah, but normal people don’t know that. How often is this siding used that anyone would ever expect to see a train?
Um, daily?
Just to clarify that wasn't a question, just sarcasm.
Imagine if it lost its brakes and became a runaway in a residential area like that.
Now that would be Chaos.
That actually happened like 5 years ago. The train was sitting a few blocks away and kids climbed on the train hitting the break. It went through this area of town hitting cars along the way. I used to live in utica til last year. There was ALWAYS some kinda drama
Reminds me of Rogers Avenue, San Jose California. Trains, big trucks full of scrap metal, hobos on bikes with trash bags full of cans, a lunch truck or three, contractors picking up building materials, just a little bit of everything...
love these Schuyler Street videos.. one day I would like to visit this area.
BEER! Grain bound for Utica Club Saranac Brewing!!
Drank Utica Club in high school. When I went into the Air Force, I was stationed at Griffiss AFB in Rome NY (a little north of Utica). A man fell into one of the Utica Club beer vats and drown. They didn't find the body until the vat was empty, and the beer was bottled and sold from the vat. I remember watching the story on the local news. Never drank Utica Club again!
@@MetalMama-zb4wg Is that why it's so shitty?? lmao
@@MetalMama-zb4wg I believe your safe to drink Utica Club again. Either the "a man fell into the vat" story didn't happen or Matt Brewing has one hell of a PR firm that was able to erase all mentions of the incidence. I could find no articles or citations for the story. I'm going to lean towards didn't happen.
@@MetalMama-zb4wg 😳😳😳
@@MetalMama-zb4wg Entirely possible I remember back in the 80's Utica Club had a distinct smell of old sneakers. Lol
Ah yes, Utica, home of the original Steamed Hams...
Cameron Hicks I see
Cameron Hicks Ho ho (ho) ho ho (ho) no, patented skinner burgers, old family recipe!
Also home of the Kabar knife.
@@TGM_2018_III for steamed hams...
@@hisnameisjohn4602 H'-yes.
Man...that was incredible...spellbounding
Cool video; thanks for sharing.
Living proof of why there should be an IQ test before earning a driver's license...
The city planner who OK'd a railroad track through the middle of downtown might be a good candidate as well.
The idiots say, Let's see just how close I can get to the train. Then, when it gets hit by the train, they will say it is the train's fault.
@@1954cs No, it was the city planner who decided to put a street OVER the EXISTING rail line.
@@1954cs the track right away is well over 100 yrs old
@@ericgroat626 wheeling wv 17th street,right down de middle, on my way 2 school if a train was coming I didn't go 2 school, hopped it 2 conway yard in Pittsburgh or other way 2 benwood wv.
What's chaotic about that? I see more chaos every morning just trying to pull out of my apartment complex.😕
What kind of idiots give this a thumbs down? This video was very entertaining.
Nice! Keep the videos coming!
The only exciting thing in Utica for 10 years
exactly. dumprat Utica hasn't changed in decades
@@nomdeguerre13 it's only became a bigger shithole
No you're forgetting that time... no. Or the... Hmmm...
Head down to south street at night lol
Man Utica is trash 😭 just issues all year round
I think the driver of the silver Explorer soiled themselves.
ANOTHER awesome video!
Nice video. I hit the 👍 and I subscribed. Watching the video I was like, "yikes! That's a tight squeeze". Good that the train was going through slowly, bc the cars on road were getting out of way slowly 😬.
¿Chaos?
If this situation is "chaos", then I'm the Easter Bunny.
You think US is strange, until you see a train coming down the street.
Thanks for the memories ! I used to jump that train from Warren st. to this corner when Foodland was there .
It's still there, just out of view
This kinda reminds me of those crowded markets in Thailand, or countries like that where everyone and everything are right up on top of the train tracks in narrow passageways. Every time a train comes through, all the merchants and people roll their tents and stuff up to keep from getting run over until it has passed, then they all settle back down on the tracks.
Who's idea was it to build a city on a train track?
i think it happened the other way around - but still who would build train tracks in the middle of a city street? my guess is this was done long before modern urban planning was a thing.. don't understand why they can't rebuild tracks somewhere else tho
It was probably before cars were common. Lots of freight spurs in streets 100 years ago.
@@michelep9477 -- absolutely not -- the tracks were there first. That was a business district and just cart paths on each side 100 years ago.
@@michelep9477 actually no. The tracks are laid, long before any towns are there. Towns are usually built up after the tracks.
Michele Pace because that cost a lot of money. Just building a mile of railroad track is a big sum of money. The railroad was there first and they all have that we were here first mentality too.
I see no problem with this train running down the middle of the street, after all it is going .02 miles an hour.
What an example of multitasking!
Now all it needs is a canal.
your wish is granted -- canal is just to the north of there =)
G'day from Australia, my son and I love you videos.
Breaking news: Amtrak plans Acela route to and through Utica, NY.
....LOL....!!!
@John Wright I was being sarcastic
4:05 numb-nuts in the black truck - he aint gonna move for NOBODY...............................you've only gotta get one scratch on your car from that thing ..........WHAT CAR !!!!!
That's hilarious that's me driving my old suburban at the very beginning.
Chaotic and looks pretty cold.
It's crazy that trains still run down streets in America!
It's cheaper than building new tracks. They need to reroute the road.
Columbus Ga has a train track on a main street. The street is wider.
Utica, NY is barely America
The track was there first.
It's still a terrible idea regardless of which was there first.
Train loco running Long hood forward aka Southern style!
Ironically the Southern's successor now own some of the NYSW fleet of engines (now 3 retired sd70m's) and many other sd70 series locomotives except the ACe
And N&W style.
В начале видео Дед Мороз в красных шортах с корпоратива за пивом пошёл, а в конце видео уже обратно чешет!) Лайк!
Beautiful control of the engine. Patient too.
Why allow parking on a street that has a track down the middle? that looks like a recipe for problem.
Why would anyone not want cars parked right next to railroad tracks? Clearly the logical thing to do is to make everything as complicated and stressful as possible for everyone everywhere.
Why allow tracks to go down the middle of the road??
Kefka It’s the old Modest Mouse lyric “I didn’t move to the city/ the city moved to me/ and I want out desperately.”
@@kefka1911 The tracks were their first.
IT IS! especially because it's super narrow. Utica doesn't care about making no parking zones on city streets, no matter how dangerous. This is right around the corner gettin the brewery too. Train coming down is even more fun when streets are packed because of a brewery event
The idea of a railroad running down the middle of Main Street is pretty bizarre.
The tracks were there long before the road.
It's not Main street in the slightest. It's a side street
It might seems bizarre today in our automobile-centric world, but in the 1800s it made better sense. In Syracuse, the New York Central's main line ran down Washington Street, about a block south of the Erie Canal. Between the railroads and canal for freight and longer distance passenger travel, and streetcars to get around the city, it wasn't a big deal to accommodate pedestrians and wagons on the same streets with various tracks.
First, this is an off-beat side street. This is not any of the main streets in this city. Second, Not really. Urban design has just become much more car-centric so a lot has changed. This city was a rival in size to Philadelphia and in the top 28 in size for a good chunk of US history. Late twentieth century saw a massive population decline, and now it's seeing a population resurgence again.
This train doesn't run that frequently that having only tracks would make sense, and there are businesses along the route (which have also been served by the train itself), it's simply dual use and open to traffic when then train is not in motion like any trolly or tram or electric bus. There are simple detours one can make if they're going around anyways. It's a non-issue.
"Oh this is a *fine* mess you've gotten us into Bob. I told you to stay on the mainline but nooooo.. you *had* to take the scenic route. If any of those hoppers gets a ticket for running a red that's coming out of *your* paycheck, Bob. Darned rookie engineers!"
It shows us how often folks think they're the center of things and forget about the small things - like a train :)
You think this is unusual, there is a train that runs right though the local crosswalks of the Orlando sports arena. I was experienced enough not to wait on the crossing while there was bumper to bumper traffic getting into the parking garage, before the Jonas Brothers concert. The gates went down awfully close to the hood of my rental car with my wife and 2 daughters in the car also. Many kids were crossing the tracks also, some had a few drinks I bet.
What could go wrong there?
Yikes
I live here like right around the corner 🤗🤦♀️
I didn’t think that track was in service anymore! Wow! Amazing!!!
Freight only since 1963
This is amazing. Crazy how they built that street around the tracks.
It only seems crazy because we think in terms of streets paved for cars and trucks; in the 1800s the tracks carried bulk freight to and from businesses, and the street around the tracks only had to serve pedestrians and wagons.
Lived in the area for a while, and yup, they can be that stupid.
That is too cool with the train coming down the street and the hanging traffic signal and the train signals all working together! As for the people in their cars, please don't vote or procreate!!!!!
@yankeesfor28 wats cracking Yankee? I'm 56 years old with no children. I'm not qualified to raise another human being so I will not procreate. And as far as voting I'm disabled so it's really hard to get to a voting station laugh out loud so I probably won't be voting either. Anyway Yankee you take it easy..
Okay I have to say that is totally awesome I have not ever seen that before that would be a sight to see I would just go to New York just to see that and that would be it😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲WOW!!
A big Round of applause for the city planner, folks! Cheers.
whoever was the public utility worker was too stupid to get out of the way endangering the woman who parked in front of him totally blocked her in!
I missed the “chaos”
i love that the train still comes thru utica like this it can be scary and dangerous at times but its cool how ever a fun fact for people to know about utica n.y. is many yrs ago we were a rail yard the whole city was tracks for a couple 100 years almost before they build a small city on it
Thanks for this. I didn't think the Suzy Q was still running.
Why don't they have pavement markings indicating the width of the train?
People are too dumb to understand that the train is wider than the tracks
They could but one NY winter and those marking would be gone! I grew up and spent most of my life in that neighborhood. If memory serves me right where the city worker parked and the lady with the silver car parked are no parking anytime spots. Morons!
Back about 20 years ago, they made it illegal to use oil based paint on streets. That stuff could last 3-4 years in a medium traffic area. All the new stuff is either water or latex based, and starts breaking down in weeks from UV or salt. Here in Southwestern Ontario(CDN), they paint lines in very late summer or in the early fall near the start of Oct. By February the paint loses 40-75% visibility.
Now you might think why not reflectors, well first you have to cut divots in the street deep enough so plows won't hit them, the second thing is they don't use epoxy based binders between the road and reflectors now either. Most places it's a water based adhesive, and a single thaw cycle can pop them out too. Simply? Not worth the hassle.
@@elilla331 physics trumps intelligence.
@@HighAway Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest SOB around.
@@elilla331 ironically he aint alive but it's like still around spiritually.
The title said chaos I was expecting chaos you know like things crashing people flying through the air I saw sleep or like nap time night night
Cool Video!
The train engineer is fantastic 👏
Imagine a German bullet high speed train running through there
....LOL......The EuroStar Train...?????.......lol
And they just st there like the train is going to move!!! This happens how often?? They just don't care!!! Let's see if we can get hit!!! When will they learn???
Dude I'm from this place and it's the norm back home. The train goes thru there like once a week and no one EVER gets hit by the train.... It's not like a train just came out of no where dumb Ass lol
I love the way it steady trundles down the the main street there..
Why does everyone think this is a main street. This is a city and it's a side street
Reminds me of Salina, Kansas. The trains run really slow and people think they can outrun them.
Why do they even allow parking on that street ? The railroad owns 50' from center of track on either side . Park at your own risk or a GP-40 is going to side swipe your vehicle !
So they own the houses?
They really shouldn’t have put train tracks in the middle of a road like that.
They really shouldn’t have put the town in the middle of the train tracks like that
Those tracks were very likely there long before the town was. That is normally how this happens!
@@Leonardo-or1ll Lol.
Railway was there first, everything else was built around it
Classic case of neighbors not willing to move and railroad not willing to detour.
This is my town. The Saranac Brewery is located on this block this is why the tracks are still being used . Must try beer and soda . !
Don't fault the railroad fault the town planning comity
Well, this just seems to be a bad idea. Could have built a damn road anywhere but no, let's put it on top of the train tracks...smh.
This was probably A streetcar line.
@Electric Ave Come on now, the railroad would not do something so dangerous. The rail line was there first, but since it was seldom used the city decided to put a street there. The general population is not too bright when it comes to trains. I rode with an engineer one time through downtown Longview Wa, and I was shocked at the number of IDIOTS that ran through the flashing red lights. The Engineer said that it did not bother him any more. He said that if these idiots wanted to commit suicide, it was ok with him. He said that he has hit several cars in his years of running the train. He said that nobody has been killed, but most of them were hurt. Some were hurt bad.
Imagine being pushed for 2 or 3 city blocks while your body was caught between the train and your car. IF a person would survive something like this, I would just about guarantee that they would not "run" the flashing lights again!
He was only going 25 MPH, but it was downhill, and we were pulling 85 railcars of logs. The brakes were already red hot from coming off the mountain.
😂🤣😂🤣Actually this is very common in these parts of upstate New York. The train tracks came 1st the roads came 2nd😉
The rail line has been there way, way, way longer then that roadway has been there. The sad part of all this is that the area is so economically depressed, (and has been for eons now) that the city, nor the railroad, have any monies whatsoever to spend to re-route that spur line which could have been done by re-locating/re-building it about 1/4 - 1/2 mile to the east from its present location so that it could run right alongside a newly reconstructed North-South Arterial route.
It's like Ludacris... "Yo *****, git out da way, git out da way.....!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
At the end this video reminded me of the old 19th street line NKP used to have in Erie Pennsylvania!!!