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- A cook's climate, health, and cost guide to the induction versus gas debate.
For decades, cooking with a gas stove has been seen as the fanciest and most enjoyable way to cook. But are we really better off with natural gas? Climate experts and professional chefs alike say that there is an alternative that could give gas a run for its money: induction stoves.
Link to heat pump video:
• What's the true cost o...
Here are our sources:
Grist's own calculations of CO2 footprint:
docs.google.com/document/d/1S...
Lowe's data set we pulled 8/31/22
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Cost comparison of operation, gas vs. induction
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Frontier Energy study on energy use of induction stoves vs. gas stoves
www.smud.org/-/media/Document...
Lebel, 2022
Methane and NOx Emissions from Natural Gas Stoves, Cooktops, and Ovens in Residential Homes
pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs....
Columbia CO2 electricity map
www.energypolicy.columbia.edu...
Lin, 2013
Meta-analysis of the effects of indoor nitrogen dioxide and gas cooking on asthma and wheeze in children
academic.oup.com/ije/article/...
Consumer Reports, pros and cons of induction
www.consumerreports.org/elect...
New York Times, The case for induction cooking
www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/di...
Grist, Your gas stove is warming the climate, even when it's turned off
grist.org/buildings/your-gas-...
00:00 Intro
00:45 How efficient are induction stoves?
01:50 CO2 / environmental comparison
03:22 Cost comparison
04:39 Cookware question
05:13 Health and kitchen pollution
06:07 Big picture
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Never knew there is any debate around induction stowes in US. They have been a standard in Poland for amost 20 years and you will have difficulties finding any cookware not induction ready in store.
Another huge argument for induction or even electric stoves (ceran) is the ease of cleaning, i just swipe my stove with a clean cloth once and polish it with a dry one done. Cleaning a gas stove is just hell. Whenever i'd cook at my parents place it took me twice the time and also cleaning supplies to get it as clean as with induction or plain electric.
I just got rid of my almost new Samsung electric stove and purchased an induction stove. There is a big difference between cleaning a standard electric stove and induction. Since the glass on an induction cooktop doesn’t get hot you can easily wipe off any spills with a cloth. Whereas on a regular electric stove your spills get burnt on and take a lot of effort to remove. Had both gas and electric and will never go back after induction.
Even the cheapest induction stoves have cooking timer. Only expensive gas stoves have that. It is so handy - I am not giving up my induction stove even with rolling blackouts here in Ukraine.
Important factor to consider before buying an induction stove (or individual burner): burner size. It matters--A LOT. On most lower-end induction stoves the largest burner you'll get is 6". Since induction burners only heat the area of the pan making direct contact with the cooktop surface, 6" burners spell trouble for 12" skillets, which typically have a 9" bottom diameter: the central area of the pan will heat nicely, but the outer ring will not. If you want to get a stove with 9" burners, count on spending big bucks, like $5,000 and up. Also, note that you can't judge the actual burner size--the diameter of the magnetic coil beneath the cooktop--just by looking at the cooktop markings; the two don't necessarily line up. Serious research is called for before purchase.
We often use several 14" pans when cooking, which induction stove can handle 14" saute pans, frypans and saucepots?
@@robertherman1146 None! Induction is a gimmick to spend that much money you can buy a top of the line Viking gas stove that no induction stove can come close to in performance.
Missed out on the important aspect of efficiency and wasted heat. Induction wastes a lot less energy (thereby more efficient), is safe site to lack of open flame and keeping the kitchen environment cooler - very important during warm/hot weather
And safe around children.
Running cost calculations start at 03:22
What could have been expanded on is :
How much energy is required for the same amount of cooking, even if that cooking is just boiling water
Gas is typically much more inefficient but also much cheaper to run. Induction is near 100% efficient but more expensive to run
Ie: Less energy is used for induction BUT it has a high cost
If we knew the difference in energy consumption vs pure cost that'd be better because then we could also make "local" calculations
For instance, over here, gas is around 350% cheaper than electricity which more than makes up for potential gas inefficiencies.
But it's hard to compare if we don't have that kWh figure
Thank you for this comment. Helped a lot with my actual question and reason for clicking on the video which they did a poor job of explaining as well as you did.
I think she addressed the efficiency, but I'm sure the induction is more efficient since it heats water very very quickly. However, are you in that much of a hurry? And this seems to be the one (and maybe only) place it really shines. Don't you have food to prep? Do your prep while the water is heating up anyway. Skip a starbucks once a month and you'll offset the energy savings in terms of cost.
Buying a gas range is now out dated. We have a 24” electric oven and use one or two portable induction burners on our counter top. Now we live in a tiny apartment. There is precious little counter space. The primary portable induction burner sits in a drawer, under the counter, when not in use. The second burner sits in a nearby closet. Always use parchment paper or a silicone pad to keep the glass top of the induction burner from being scratched.
What size sheetpan do you use in a 24" oven? LOL
wow, this channel is at least 14 years old. other people does the cooking in our house, still hard to convince them to move to induction. actually, the induction stoves now are cheaper than the cheapest gas stoves here in our country
Good for your country. This video is targeted at an American audience, where this is decidedly not the case. We just purchased an induction stove - literally took delivery today - and the cost of installing wiring and capping our gas line alone cost about as much as a replacement gas stove would have.
@@rdormer Induction stove that integrates with the kitchen indeed are more expensive and powerful. I refer to the smaller stoves that can be plugged to an outlet. Anyways, you did a good decision to get rid of gas.
Great video , thanks for presenting both sides
Have you ever heard the phrase " cut to the chase"
Simple Question" if I have an induction hob at one end of my room and I have electric/gas hob at the other end of my room after a two month test (testing for a month in each case? Will I have more money in my pocket just using an induction for a month? Or will I have less?
new code,vent hood required,what about ventless propane wall heaters?
I love induction cooking... instantaneous response... and the sensors can really help. We need better sensors and TIMERS on each burner... like boil for 20 min... then reduce to a simmer... like a spagetti setting so you can throw the noodles in and walk away safely... and if it spills over on the surface... it lowers the heat by some amount and sends a network or bluetooth alert to check your stove.
Love my induction stove. I can get a good controlled rolling boil.
Do induction burners stay at a constant temp like gas burners, or cycle on and off like traditional electric burners? As far as heating a house electric is far too expensive.
Have you looked at your gas bill this month?
@@christopherbrown985 no, heat with wood. Its wood, wood pellets, then propane. In order of what people heat with in the rural areas, nobody heats with electric.
Yes they stay at a constant temp. The temp changes instantly as you adjust the temperature setting.
Another well informative video! Thank you! You basically covered the important what-ifs questions that I ,and presumably everyone else, had.
Glad it was helpful!
My induction stove eye was $60.
Health hazards of gas stoves are mitigated with stove vents that vents to the outside. If you visited any Chinese household, you will see that they all have stove vents due to the oil fume and steam from Chinese style cooking. We switched to induction cooktop for the safety of electric cooktop's auto shutoff feature, since our elder parents started forgetting the turn off gas stove. One thing to note is that some induction stove used a lot of electricity in standby mode. I used an amp meter to find out our 220v cooktop use 4 amps on the wire at the breaker board. After power factor corrections, it still used more than 17 watts. I installed a 30 amp switch to shut it off after cooling down.
5:59
just how did you calculate the 0.95 lb CO2?
Gas stoves use 8150 BTU per day (stat based on linked whitepaper). Using EIAs CO2 coefficient for natural gas, we got a total of 0.95 lb CO2 from the gas stove.
Here's a link to the methodology: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fJcOPHnjmvCL8_okBjmCYw4JLBclvN_B5pMLF-VKHxA/edit?usp=sharing
And here's a link to the exact calculations:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fJcOPHnjmvCL8_okBjmCYw4JLBclvN_B5pMLF-VKHxA/edit#gid=1483444129
Gas stove BTU white paper stat:
www.smud.org/-/media/Documents/Corporate/About-Us/Energy-Research-and-Development/Induction-Range-Final-Report---July-2019.ashx#page=21
Another concrete cost to compare is the cost of repairs. Induction ranges or cooktops are far more prone to failure than a gas burner, parts are very expensive, and there are a limited number of technicians qualified to fix them. In many cases it costs as much to repair an induction cooktop as to replace it.
Funny this is the third video recommended this week.
My concern with induction stoves is their longevity. We recently upgraded and got rid of our 25 year old gas cooktop, which still worked. If induction lasts half as long then it is much more expensive and will create more waste. What is the expected life for induction stoves? A different video said you can't use induction if you have a pacemaker.
Haven't a clue about the pacemaker issue, certainly the manufacturer has or can provide some light on that.
Regarding longevity, apparently induction hobs are measured in hours of use instead of years and for what I read it's about 10.000 hours for home appliances and 3x more for the professional onesl
The induction stove won't last as long as my gas stove and in the event of a power cut you can't cook, gas is also cheaper to use than electric which is a big plus these days due to the high cost of fuel
Electricity has gotten VERY expensive lately...
I could choose propane or electric. Electricity generated here is natural gas. The electric company gets gas cheaper than I do if I could get it which throws the scales. My induction hot plate is way more efficient than a glowing coil and I like the thermostatic control. Burning gas at the fuel plant I think I use more gas and I would if I just use the gas directly. The price of propane is unreliable. I recommend one of these hot plates, they're great to cook with.
My induction range boils 16 oz water for coffee in just seconds with practically no heat loss outside of the pot.
What if someone cooks a very high carb dinner on an induction stove, is that considered healthy?? NO!
never going back to a gas stove, induction is just so much nicer to use, and quicker (I'm on 230v though, EU)
it wont work when the power goes off .
That's why I have solar and batteries.
Please just stop trying to defend gas, it's obviously becoming even more ineffecient nowadays. The induction cookers specially the portable ones are getting cheaper nowadays. I'm all in for the induction technology.
How long will induction last? I have a 35 year old electric range with coils burners. It never needed one service call. I will bet induction does last more than 10 years, and if you want a high-end range, look to spend $5,000 on up. Then, when it's done, it ends up in a landfill; and you will be buying another stove. Also, poorly made pots will warp. Look to spend over $1,000.00 on up for a proper set of pots and pans.
Gas came first in my country. Electric stoves are the fancy new thing
Induction cookware and the stoves, themselves, are really expensive, (almost double the prices), and you will likely need to throw most of your current cookware away because it won't work on these stove tops. Currently, cookware products are often not labeled as to their compatibility with induction technology and if they are labeled as "induction compatible" then the price will be nearly double what a non-compatible item costs, (eg. aluminum vs stainless steel). Also, the oven portion of the induction ranges use the same old coils currently used in standard electric ovens, (no savings there either). IMO, unless you are planning on using the induction stove for specific purposes, (a specialty kitchen), then you will find it inconvenient and costly. Induction technology is not ready for prime time yet, IMO.
Just get cast iron. It lasts forever.
@@tonylarose4842 Indeed, illustrates my point. Despite how elegant and care-free cast iron is it's not my preferred cookware for everything.
It's also heavy. Try being a woman and dealing with such pots and pans, whether it be cooking or washing.
in most of the world perfectly fine 4 "burner" induction cooktop costs under $300. I bought mine for $200 new.
induction cookware costs absolutely the same, is very cheap to make pots induction compatible
You should be using cast iron anyways. Compatible everywhere.
what about the notion that magnetism gives you cancer or other health issues. example living next to power lines
While that is a concern. Typically you have to remain in close proximity to magnetic field for an extended period of time for their to be any real threat to your health. Power lines around you home cause a very powerful and constant source of magnetic fields around around you all the time. Even smaller magnetic fields can cause harm if you they remain in contact with you for long periods of time. Best example of that would probably be cell phones which people like to leave tucked neatly against their body in their pockets almost 24/7 or under a pillow at night. However, in comparison, you would likely only come into contact with you induction stove for shorter periods of time as even when you are cooking for a few hours you will move in and out of the magnetic field. I agree though, it should probably be researched more thoroughly.
The alternative option is of course, cook less with your stove top and try more oven recipes instead.
nothing, because that's utter nonsense
There is, however, one gigantic downside of induction cooktops: _you need to buy pots, pans and (for Asian households) woks that are fully compatible with how an induction cooktop works_ . And replacing all of your pots and pans could cost (on average) US$300 and go way up from there.
We cook on woks 4 days a week, which induction cooktop accommodates two 16" woks simultaneously?
Better off and enjoyable are not necessarily the same thing. Gas is more versatile, period. Induction is objectively better (faster, safer, less heating of the house) for most home cooks and some commercial cooks. Which will make a home cook happier? Entirely different question.
How about the emissions created to produce the electricity to power the electric stove?
Hi @andrewordog4397 -- that's included in the calculations starting at 01:50
Who cares about Co2 when you cook ? FFS !
Glass top stoves are crap. They're for people who don't like or know how to cook.
plenty of commercial restaurants use induction stoves, they're extremely fast and precise to control. I think you're mixing up induction with regular glass top electric stoves (which are indeed crap)
I don't care what climate "experts" say about gas cooking. There have been millions and millions of cooks and chefs that have worked in kitchens all day long for their entire careers with gas burners burning all day long and we don't see chefs and cooks dropping like flies. Stop this already. I'm thinking about getting an induction stove, but not because I'm afraid of gas.
climate experts or environmental health experts? you sound confused. And I bet you would claim that pollution from roads doesn't make people's asthma worse
@@shyft09 Did I say that? What DID I say that was wrong? Oh so you are one of those that if I don't agree with the narrative Im bad. OK
Then there's the iPad, which is causing 900 times the emissions of all stoves on the planet combined.
Don't forget crypto mining.
But they are not killing your lungs and hopefully convincing people to try and induction cooktop on youtube!
@@economistfromhell4877 Residential gas stoves are "killing lungs"? If they are (they prob. aren't), the risk is negligible, and non-existent when stoves are vented.
You should also consider that additional electricity consumers are usually served by fossil power plants and not by whatever the electricity mix currently happens to be.
Where do you get that information from?
@@thatyougoon1785
That's simple logic. Wind and solar don't increase their output on demand.
@@artuselias you didn't specify that you were talking about daily demand. You're still incorrct though. By far all new energy generation put online is renewable (wind or solar). Perhaps you're refering to peak demand?
@@thatyougoon1785
No, not only during peak demand. As you can see on Electricitymaps, nuclear + renewables oversupply is still an exceedingly rare occurrence. It doesn't matter how much capacity gets put online as long a marginal energy is still provided by fossil fuels.
@@artuselias I never stated that the majority of grid wasn't powered by fossil fuels. What I however do state is that wind, solar & energy storage grow exponentially, as they, just like any technology, follow an adoption curve. Given these trends, it is clearly visible that renewables will dominate within a foreseeable time period. That makes a new purchase of something which will last decades, such as a stove, a non-trivial decision when it comes to potential emissions. And given that there are solutions out there for both flexible demand and storage, e.g. mixergy, the shift will be swift.
Growth in solar: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_of_photovoltaics
Growth in wind: www.gwec.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Global-Cumulative-Installed-Wind-Capacity-2001-2016.jpg
Induction stoves have only been available for a few DECADES? No wonder so few people know about them. The anti-gas bias of this video is thick enough to cut with a knife; no surprise, as it's Grist. Still, thanks for pointing out that CO2 emissions due to cooking w/ gas are pretty trivial.
Its not anti-gas bias - its the numbers! Follow the numbers and electrification wins and gas is gone.
@@economistfromhell4877 they are emotional snowflakes. Gas company research showed them how much these people love their gas stove.
@@economistfromhell4877 It absolutely IS anti-gas bias! I can smell it from the title to the end!!! Climate! Climate! Climate! C02! etc. etc. etc. And very little downside is mentioned as well as the numerous enjoyable perks of cooking with gas! I love it!!! I remember my grandmother used to cook with it when I was younger too! It feels organic! I've cooked with electric and got used to it, but the minute you get used to gas...I never want to go back to electric for cooking. When we have had a hurricane and the power is out for an extended time...zero interruption in my gas cooktop!!!
anti-gas bias 😂 try engaging your brain first, then you might not get so angry
@@cherp7522you're confusing old style glass top electric with induction, they're totally different. Induction is way better, I prefer it to gas. And I think we both agree that old style electric is trash
As soon as I hear climate I switch off, nothing is worth listening to afterwards. Another green party special.
Well, she fooled you. This time the message was "In the US there is no difference to the environment between gas or induction." And what have you got against the Greens. They are more respectable than the Republicans.
How about indoor air quality? I put an air quality sensor in my home office - the direct opposite corner of my four bedroom house from my stove. I could detect when I used my gas stove from that sensor.
If you want to poison yourself, knock yourself out.
@@KevinLyda Literally.
@@CT-vm4gf Zing! But seriously, gas has literally no advantages over induction. There's nothing. If you can't afford to switch, that's fine but please don't pretend there's some rational argument for preferring gas over induction. Also with all the research coming out these past few months, I'd prioritise getting an electric range over other other expenses.
@@benishborogove2692 No they are not. You have been programmed. Badly! Republicans want freedom! All these types do is lie and come up with higher cost restrictions for the everyday man, while those running this game fly around in private jets, heat 10 large pools and hot water tanks and 10 gas stoves etc. etc. etc. all over the world. Frauds!!! Do some contrary research for a change and watch them closely. They are the equivalent of animal rights activists who have a closet full of fur coats.