Vintage Anime & Manga #1 | The Year 24 Group and the Female Revolution of Shoujo Manga
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0:00 intro
0:23 post WII manga industry
1:35 the initial change of shoujo manga
6:30 the contributions and characteristics
13:58 what does the year 24 group mean?
18:03 outro
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Hagio Moto une artiste au coeur du manga moderne
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How the women of the year group 24 (thanks Stevem for the resource!)
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The Year 24 Group
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Moto Hagio Interview
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Say it with manga Year 24 Group
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Riyoko Ikeda Interview
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少女漫画の宇宙 (Shoujo Manga Universe)
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Hello hello! I hope you are all well! :)
Ever since finding Moto Hagio's work, I have become extremely interested in this era of shoujo manga, so I'm very much looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
Either way as always, CC will be coming in a hot minute after TH-cam has done it's automatic ones :)
I'm incredibly busy atm, so I have been having to make this videos on the fly, but I'm sure everything will be running again as usual in a couple of week (and so the CC will be there in advance as well).
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I really love retro shojo manga, it’s one of my favorite hobbies. My favorites are Ryoko Ikeda’s The Rose Of Versailles, Suzue Miuchi’s Glass Mask and Yumiko Igarashi’s Candy Candy. I love that flowery, yet melancholic aesthetic, with many symbolisms and deep meanings. Shojo mangakas of that time and their stories are criminally underrated and they certainly deserve more recognition.
These were my mom's favorites as well. I like reading Seinen but I started reading The Rose of Versailles and wow! Love the way Shojo manga evokes emotion.
The rose of versailles is an absolute masterpiece!
I’m french and I did my master’s degree’s thesis on this subject, so your video popped in my feed it’s so nice 👍 I’m happy to have another person in the world who searched recently about this part of history, it’s so impressive
I discovered them thanks to “Oni-sama e...” by Riyoko Ikeda, and “Tomas no Shinzo” by Moto Hagio who is my favourite, unfortunately in France we have a few translations of her works :( I would love to have mor from Fantagraphics. Moto Hagio is incredible she deserves so much recognition in Western countries
Wow that's so awesome!! And yeah I totally agree, Hagio totally deserves more recognition! I was looking up different translations of her work and except for in Italy, only a few of her works have been translated. Lil' Leo btw is going to be published in English in March though which is really exciting! :D
@@carolinecdbc3883 je cherche les oeuvres de Riyoko Ikeda (en francais ou anglais) En dehors de Lady Oscar, c'est très difficile à trouver :-(
@@MissBerlinerin Et bien il y a Très cher frère mais seulement en bibliothèque ou à racheter à prix d'or, il est épuisé :(
je fais mon oral de brevet sur ça😁
Shojo does not get enough love on mangatube imo so I am very excited about your rec video coming up!! Loved this video too~
Yeah totally agree, and it has so much good to offer! Thanks so much for watching -- glad to hear you loved the video!! :D
I love your manner of speaking. It's so soothing and nice to the ears. Also, I really liked the information you brought it in this video. I don't know if I've ever watched a shojo anime or read a manga of said kind. But now you really encouraged me to give it a shot. ❤
Thank you so much, that's so lovely to hear! I'm really glad that the video inspired you to give shoujo a chance -- I hope you enjoy it!! :D
Rose of Versailles and Toward the Terra are so good!
I got the first volume of The Rose of Versailles, very excited to give it a read soon! :D
@@TheArtisanGeek Nice! What language are you reading it in? We rewatched the anime in French recently for the immersion and it was fun!
@@inabacklistmood3124 Oh in French!! That's so cool!! The copy I have is English :) I think I also might try giving the anime a go with English subs :)
@@TheArtisanGeek The English bindups are beautiful! The original Japanese for the anime is good, I hope you enjoy both!
I had no idea The Knight Princess was such a milstone in the history of Anime.
I watched this when I was little. It was dubbed (Not English). I still remember little bit of the song. Ah! you brought back some memories :)
Excellent video by the way!
Ah that's so cool you watched that growing up! Would love to give it a go, as it sounds really interesting :) Thanks so much for watching!! :D
keiko takemiya is one of my favorite mangaka, i completely lost it when kaze to ki no uta got published in spain!!! i read it years ago through an unfinished fan translation and being able to finally experience it in its entirety brought me so much joy despite how tragic of a story it is.
i had no idea rose of versailles was licensed in english though, i've been wanting to read it for years! i recently bought the first volume of the poe clan though so i'll have to save up a bit first😭
this is probably one of my favorite videos you've made, fantastic content!!
Ooh that's lovely!! I would love to give Kaze to ki no uta a chance, though I'm picking Rose of Versailles next week, really stoked for that!! :D But yeah the copy is hardback just like the Poe Clan so it's super expensive! 😭 Btw, part 2 of TPC is coming out most likely in 2021, it has been hard for the translator to find enough time to work on it -- it's nice to know it will get finished eventually though :)
Thanks so much for watching and I'm so glad to hear how much you enjoyed this video! :D
@@TheArtisanGeek i'd love to hear your thoughts on all of these works as you read them!! just a quick heads up though, kaze deals with csa and child abuse as a central theme so please tread with caution, it can be hard to stomach.
thank you so much for letting me know TPC will be continued, i was wondering whether the project was abandoned! can't fault the translator at all, this year has been crazy. i'm so excited for vol2!!!!🤗
Thanks so much for the heads up, will definitely keep that in mind! :) And yeah, no problem! I stumbled upon the twitter of the translator when doing research and that was her pinned tweet (I guessed a lot of people had been asking) :)
This is so interesting! I used to be a really big fan of Glass Mask which originally came out in like the 70s, so I've recently gotten a lot more interested in the history of shoujo/older shoujos. Loved the video 💞
Oh that's super awesome!! I've been meaning to take a look at that one actually! :D Thanks so much for watching!! xx
As one of my favorite manga authors, Moto Hagio doesn't get enough love. Great informative video. Keep up the good work. :)
I ordered Moto Hagio’s Otherworld Barbara last week, and I’m really excited to read it! I’ve been really interested in vintage shoujo manga after finishing Utena
Oh that's so cool!! I have Hagio's manga at home too -- been meaning to read it this holiday! Hope will both enjoy it :D
I remember studying them as a collective literature course.. used to be one of my favorites in my schol journey
Absolutely fascinating! I know of the Year 24 group and have read quite a few of their works, but didn’t know all the history behind it. Thank you for doing this research and sharing it!
Yeah same here! I went looking for more information a couple of years back. but was surprised to see how not many people had spoken about them on TH-cam, despite their importance. Very happy to share the video! :)
I highly recommend you read the manga "A Cruel God Reigns" by Moto Hagio. It is easily the best manga I have ever read. I binge read it in a week despite the fact that the subject matter of the manga was so dark and disturbing that reading it became mentally exhausting. I constantly had to put it down and stop reading to walk around for a few minutes before I could pick it up again. By the time I had finished reading the manga, I felt so drained that I had to watch something more lighthearted to make me feel better. Nevertheless, I simply could not stop thinking about this manga for a week after I had read it. If you suffer from mental illness or trauma, I do not recommend you read this manga. To read this manga, please be sure you are in a healthy enough mental state.
How come i never learned about this :0 Thanks for having so much insightful content on your channel. Btw beautiful eyeshadow !!
I'm so happy to hear that! Thank you so much for watching and the compliment!! :D xx
I have never heard of this group, thanks for introducing me to more female artists to learn about! Also RESPECT for working with the French and Japanese sources!
The my pleasure is always mine!! And thank you very much!! :D
That was masterful! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽. I knew all of the information but I came to support and see it archived by your narration. This is important as a black male shoujo artist myself. All of the old greats you mentioned heavily influence my work. You did so great detailing the history.
This video truly felt mind blowing!!! I’m a huge shoujo fan but I never knew any of this! I don’t think I’ve ever given vintage shoujo a chance but you’ve really peaked my interest. Thank you so much for this!!
You are so well-spoken. I can see you writing a book on these subjects. I love learning about popular culture :)
Ah thank you so much!!
What an amazing analysis on my favorite era of Manga. I grew up intensely reading these artists from 6 to 18 years old. It was joy packed moment to open monthly/weekly shojo manga magazines. When I reflect the time, it's incredible to see many of them became legends. Thank you for your effort.
Ohhh, this was really interesting, thank you for sharing this history with us!
I used to read a lot of Shoujo manga about maybe 12 years ago because it's been the preferred genre of my friends while I preferred shonen. It's been a while since I read shoujo on my own, so thanks for reminding me how interesting and pretty it can be :)
Oh, and happy holidays :D
It's my pleasure! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and so happy to hear that! :S
Thank you! Wishing you happy holidays as well! :D
You look perfect for the video's theme in that outfit! How cute!! I love your pronunciation, too.
This topic is so interesting! I'll make sure to check some of the mangas of this period. On a side note, my mom loves the rose of Versailles and it's adaptation was my first interaction with anime, i got so excited when you mentioned it hahaha
Oh yeah they are definitely worth checking out :D Also that's so cool that your mom loves it, I just started reading the first volume and it's really good!! :D
Brilliant! I hope lots more people talk about women in manga like you do in this video. This was super interesting and well researched! Thank you for putting so much time into it!
This was so interesting! And your joy and excitement about the topic really shines!
Ah I'm so happy to hear that! Thank you so much! :D
I knew most of this having read some of these manga as a teen, but I had never seen it addressed in a video. This was great!
I still have a soft spot for old shojo manga art. The episode of manben with Moto Hagio is amazing.
Thanks so much for watching! Glad you enjoyed it :D And yeah it was an absolute blast watching Hagio's episode -- I really need to read more of her work!
I really love your content! I started watching you because you posted a video talking about being autistic and only learning that after childhood. This is something in common. I have continued to watch because you have very good insights and a lot of knowledge about very interesting topics. Thank you!
That's so kind of you to say, thank you so much for sticking around!! I really appreciate it a lot! Take care and happy holidays :D
This video was so informative and I’m that much prouder to be a shoujo fan- loved this!! And I can’t wait for the recommendations video!
Yay for shoujo!! Thank you so much for watching!! :D Very excited to complete the rec video as well! :D
I loved your video. Great job 👍. As a long-time Shoujo manga/anime lover, it is very refreshing to hear you talk about Shoujo manga with so much wisdom and grace. Be blessed in Jesus' name. I have subscribed. Looking to more of your videos.
Thank you very much, I'm very happy to hear that you enjoyed the video!! And thanks so much for subscribing!! :D
This is fascinating!
I love manga, and I think most of my favorites are shoujo, based on my own tastes and the subjects. I don't usually buy them and am limited to my library's selection, but I just got some cash for Christmas so I bought a bunch of Snow White with the Red Hair, and I'm so excited for it!
Thanks so much for watching Annalisa! :) I haven't had the chance to read Snow White with the Red Hair, but I hope you'll enjoy it! Happy reading!! :D
Wow, thank you for this video! I can't wait to delve into some of these and the history was so interesting. You always have such good recommendations.
Such an interesting, informative, and well-researched video! So much good history in one place! I think you might enjoy the morning drama that NHK did maybe almost 10 years ago, called ゲゲゲの女房about the wife of Mizuki Shigeru, author of ゲゲゲの鬼太郎, one of the earliest horror manga. It also shows a little of the early industry dynamics with shojo manga you discussed.
Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment!! That's super interesting, thank you so much! Will definitely have to take a peak at that. One of Shigeru's manga called Tono Monogatari is getting published in English next year, which I'm really interested in, so I have been looking into him as a mangaka recently! :)
@@TheArtisanGeek that's exciting! I've been meaning to try gegege because of its role in horror manga, and because it was a popular anime that my dad used to watch. Tono sounds really interesting and maybe informative culturally too!
Nice!! I wanted to read it for my horror manga video, but had to cut it because of my budget unfortunately -- definitely looking to give that one a go as well :) I hope you'll manage to get to it, would love to hear your thoughts!
oh this was so cool! I love to learn more about the history of manga in general
Thanks so much for watching!! And yeah I have a copy of the first volume at home, really looking forward to giving it a go! :D
your video essays are SO INTRIGUING! Thank you for this video and for your entire channel!
Thank you so very much!! I'm so happy to hear that!! ;D
Loved all this information about shoujo manga, I've always had a soft spot for manga history myself and you did an amazing job talking about it.
I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed the video Colleen! Thank you so much for watching and your kind words :)
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This aspect of the manda world is so fascinating! The work you put into it really shows. Thanks for this gift
I'm a bit late to the party but thank you so much for this video! It is obviously well researched but very digestible while going in-depth... I basically listened to this as a podcast and it was very pleasant while definitely piquing my interest. Your content is prime quality, keep up the good work! (and yesss Manben!!)
so incredibly lovely to learn about this!! thank you for the time you took to do so much research-definitely looking into some of this manga tonight!
Thank you very much for watching!! It's my pleasure! :D
I'm a bit late to this so apologies but I just wanted to say this was a fascinating video! I like manga but don't know too much about it so this was super insightful and interesting. :)
Oh no need for apologies!! Thank you so much for watching, I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed the video!! :D
So interesting video and well research, I am just finishing my dissertation and a big part of it it's about Year 24 Group contribution towards shounen-ai and shoujo manga in general. Can't wait to see your recommendation video. I love all your content, one of my favourite channels :D
Thank you for making this more attention and respect needs to be payed to these women's works
It's my absolute pleasure! I hope to make more videos about this type of work! :)
Good evening ! I must say that I liked your video, as everthing was calm and fluid it was really enjoyable. I was also happy to hear how much affection you have for shoujo and especially this period
Loved this! Thank you for making and sharing it :) It's always fun to learn more about classic shoujo and the origins of the genre! And you look great!
Super interesting and well researched. Loved it!
Very happy to hear that! Thanks so much for watching! ;D
I love this video! I love shoujo manga and i feel like so many people are missing out. I also love your energy you are so calming to watch.
This video just popped up but I'm glad I clicked. You are absolutely darling and incredibly knowledgeable!!
This is so well researched video. 😀
Also your Eye makeup looks beautiful.
That's so kind of you to say!! Thank you so much, for your comment and watching!! :D
I just want to say I love you 🥰🥰
Your video makes me so happy ^^
Your video is so informative and amazing. Thank you for this in-depth analysis of Shoujo Manga. Looking forward to your recommendation video.
It's my absolute pleasure! Thanks so much for watching! :D
I am looking forward to your recommendations! I love your approach to these things - it let's my intellectual heart beat faster
Ah that's very kind of you to say, thank you very much!! Also very much looking forward to compiling everything for that video :D Cheers! xx
This is a wonderfully interesting and comprehensive video wow!! 🙌
thank you! :)
I like this concept and video a lot!! Good job :)
Thank you so much!! :D
Very informative video, so interesting! I love this style of drawing a lot, but I haven't read that many Shojo titles from that era.
Wooo (yes I am aware I'm am extremely late eek)!! This was so informative!! Also your eye shadow is so good it looks so nice :D
Ah thank you so very much!! Very glad you felt it was informative!! :D
Thank you for making this video. Its an area of manga I think deserves attention and I learned a lot. I now have a list of creators to go track down. Thanks again
Such an interesting and well done video! ❤️
Thank you!! I'm glad you enjoyed it! xx
Thank you for the great and informative video! 😊
The pleasure is always mine! Thanks so much for watching :D
Random youtube algorithm bump. Really cool learning this about shoujo. Subbed
Hii I love your outfit and vibes!! I've actually had this vid in my watch later for a while now and finally decided to watch today because I wanted to read a shoujo manga since it's been a while and your work has definitely increased my interest in the genre :) 💜💜💜💜 I hope more shoujo manga gets adapted and promoted
I found this so very interesting, I don't read manga a lot, but I love hearing about the behind the scenes and things that lead to an industry. Also as always love your outfit. You are always dressed to the nines in regards to style. I need better thrift stores 😆
Yay!! I'm happy to hear that you liked it!! It was really fascinating to learn about! And thank you so much!! :D xx
so amazing! i've read a couple of shoujo mangas from that time and it's really amazing! my favourite is the heart of thomas, it's sad that most of the information about it is in french and japanese, so thank you for making this video!
Thank you!! And I totally agree, the work is absolutely stellar. I recently bought some Japanese reprints of some classics, so I'm looking forward to talking about them and making more shoujo content :)
@@TheArtisanGeek that's amazing!! i'm really looking forward to that 😁 also, thank you for the links on the description box, i love seeing moto hagio working, she's so amazing
Just found you off a search but your accent, vibes and this topic is an instant sub 2min in haha.
This video is amazing! I'm very, very new to manga and have been referring to my boyfriend for recommendations (he has been reading manga for a long time) and have been curious about shoujo manga for a while and it's the only thing he doesn't really know about. I will be checking out some of the works you mentioned in the video and I'll be looking out for your recommendation video! I love this kind of video and hope you'll be doing a similar one on another subject.
Oh yay I'm super happy that I could have been of help to you in that way! :D Would love to hear your thoughts if you end up picking one up! Thanks so much for watching! :D
Thank you for sharing this informative video and I am looking forward for your the recommendations.
It's my pleasure!! I'm very happy to hear that and thank you very much for watching! :D
Such an interesting video!
Thank you very much! :D
Stumbled across this channel by chance as I am rarely on youtube...and love love loved this informative video:) subscribed! I'm looking forward to more of your content and diving into some of the manga you mentioned. Have a good day and happy new year!
Why thank you so much for the lovely comment!! Wishing you a wonderful 2021!! :D
This was really interesting! My public library system has Rose of Versailles so I'm thinking I'll check that one out.
Would highly recommend it! Hope you'll enjoy the story if you get to it :)
Thank you and very informative. You did beautiful job. You have new subscriber.
I'm glad to hear that! Thank you so much for watching and subscribing! :)
This was so interesting!!!♥️
Thanks so much for watching! :D
Really good content 😌
Thank you very much!! :D
Oh, this channel is a great niche find.
Hi ! I just finished your video, it was so interesting ! I came because I found your video after finishing recently a manga by Moto Hagio and Iwas looking for a video about the Year 24 group. I got now a lot of screenshots on my phone of manga that I need to found and read xD (Sorry, English is not my first langage)
yo you look like one of the 1950s ladies here very epic poggers. I feel like a shoujo expert now lol
amazing video
thank you! :)
I had recently return to watch The Rose of Versailles. I really appreciate the historical context and critical notes on the wave/genre. Maybe you could do an in deep analysis about genre theory in some of this works. I really will love see that!
So interesting!
Thank you! :D
You're welcome! i didn't know anything about the year 24
I love shoujo manga and your videos are greate ❤❤❤
People always have something to say about how brutal Kaze to Ki no Uta was, but it supposedly influenced Berserk!
Cool video
Thank you! :D
Your pronunciation is so good
Ah, yes, the queens of shoujo.They really know how to make you suffer, don't they?
A video on Keiko Takemiya specifically would've been interesting. Not one artist before her was able to awaken the murder instinct in me quite as well.
Interesting!
Thank you Ady!! :D
Thank you
My pleasure! :D
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萩尾望都先生が日本以外でも親しまれていることが嬉しいです😊
彼女は少女漫画に革命を起こした人物です。
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Hello I’m a new subscriber and want to ask about your thoughts on the current scene of isekai and historical/ fantasy shoujo mangas and whether you have read comics from other countries like manhuas (mostly from China) and webtoons/ manhwas (mostly from Korea)?
Ooh I haven't had much chance to get into the current scene of isekai and historical/fantasy shoujo, but it is something I'm looking forward to as I continue to create more content :) I have read a couple of manwha, though mostly the horror ones :) I don't think I've read a manhua though, but if you have any recommendations I would love to hear them :)
No one here talking about Masako Watanabe, who wrote the horror manga Saint Rosalind, or Hideko Mizuno, who influenced Moto Hagio :(
She mentioned Mizuno at the end
As Alma said I mentioned both in the video, but I think you meant in the comment section right? I think with some of the mangaka it's hard to get a hold of their work, both in English and Japan, which is really unfortunately -- so I guess that's why not many people might have spoken about them.
@@TheArtisanGeek Someone began scanlating Saint Rosalind and it's gotten some comments so I'm hoping that will encourage publishers to pick it up (manga publishers here won't pick up series unless they're popular and that come from scanlations I've even suggested Hoshi No Tategoto which has no scanlation, multiple times and they didn't get it, because they say, it's too old, but then they get the latest manga which has a scanlation that updates frequently and the manga still manages to sell well) I've also suggested Fire! by Hideko Mizuno to Seven Seas only for them to get the atrocious Lupin the third manga by Monkey Punch. Manga publishers don't see classic manga as worthy unless it has an anime or the manga is made by men.
Before I go on my damned anti-piracy stance?
@@TheArtisanGeek Ah, sorry if I sounded too harsh. It's just that the issues with Scanlation and legal releases are so hotheaded and well, I apologize for saying that.
☺️☺️ idk your videos are relaxing but I might also be here for the 🔥 outfits. My interest is piqued for this world I know nothing about.
Yay so happy to hear that! And thank you so very much for your kind words! :D
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