How Medieval Jousting Tournaments Were Held- Middle Ages DOCUMENTARY

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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Jousting without leaving my gaming chair? Sign me up: play.crusaderkings.com/KingsandGenerals

    • @shinsenshogun900
      @shinsenshogun900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We can be jousting in limousines these days

    • @wdcotter87
      @wdcotter87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I rarely comment but want to show support for this continued paradox dlc partnership!!

  • @ishant6003
    @ishant6003 ปีที่แล้ว +468

    I knew paradox sponsored this episode as soon as I saw the video title 😂😂

    • @Mr_OogaBooga
      @Mr_OogaBooga ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ikr?

    • @christopherfilip6949
      @christopherfilip6949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, I thought the same xd

    • @s.p.q.r1
      @s.p.q.r1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Я тоже так подумал

    • @imthebmf23
      @imthebmf23 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the mCrusaders King game and I have not played it for a while. So I have to pay for another DLC even if I bought the Royal Edition? 😅

    • @joeferreira3340
      @joeferreira3340 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, and then I went straight to steam to check if it was released today hahaha

  • @loods2215
    @loods2215 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Hey everyone, I was the researcher and writer for this video. I hope you enjoyed!
    If you have any questions about this episode, I'd love to answer them

    • @ZudinGodofWar
      @ZudinGodofWar ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What was your favorite part of the episode?

    • @MunsterBeavis
      @MunsterBeavis ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Question, if you played the new DLC what faction did you choose to play first? (To joust with)

    • @mikeshogunlee
      @mikeshogunlee ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Where there tourneys like the ones deprecated in a Knights Tale?
      Multi-Game events not unlike the Olympics? If so what other games where there?
      Specifically interested in duels on foot, if they had a specific name or something I could look up on my own.

    • @calebroberts5422
      @calebroberts5422 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mikeshogunlee great question hope he answers😂

    • @GordonLonghouse
      @GordonLonghouse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was jousting the only sport on offer at tournaments? I recall hearing that there were other events such as sword flights.

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Besides modifications made to armor and shields, other equipment used in the jousts were also made safer. Among the weapons that were permitted in the tournaments included lances without points, swords without edges and maces without weight. As such many a knight who participated in these tournaments required the services of skilled smiths. In fact smiths could make a tidy profit in these games, and so in and around the tournament grounds you would have seen smiths busy hammering iron, sewing mail and dealing with clients.

  • @Insert-the-Name-101
    @Insert-the-Name-101 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    As an aspiring writer writing about a fictional medieval setting. This channel is an absolute delight and a blessing

    • @anthonyle1838
      @anthonyle1838 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you writing anything now

    • @zacharydurocher4085
      @zacharydurocher4085 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@anthonyle1838 Well he did this comment

    • @parsifal2299
      @parsifal2299 ปีที่แล้ว

      Link it some of your stuff buddy

    • @ZaphnathPanea
      @ZaphnathPanea ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@zacharydurocher4085 😂. A real page turner

    • @leszekwolkowski9856
      @leszekwolkowski9856 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zacharydurocher4085 haha, ty for that mate!

  • @SimpleNobody2420
    @SimpleNobody2420 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Personal Suggestions for Future Videos.
    1) How the creation of Gunpowder created the course of warfare worldwide?
    2) the life of Pierre Terrail, seigneur de Bayard. French's Greatest Perfect Knight.
    3) The Beaver Wars during the Mid 17th century, Colonial America.
    4) The Battle of Tollense Valley, Europe's First Battle.
    5) How accurate is the Wild West of America?

  • @Flexpdx
    @Flexpdx ปีที่แล้ว +37

    These videos make the CK DLC so much more spectacular. Love you guys

  • @aliosman0
    @aliosman0 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love it when you collaborate with Paradox

  • @sblbate
    @sblbate ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just in time for the new Crusader Kings III DLC.
    edit: And then I watch the video and see the sponsor. Well played, Paradox.

  • @radiospace7071
    @radiospace7071 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thing I love about Ck2 and 3 is that they give the middle ages a much needed lift in color and fun

  • @Osvath97
    @Osvath97 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    7:14 having a barrier separating the jousters was not introduced as early as the context implies, at earliest it was introduced in the 1300's but did not become truly popular all over Europe until the 1500's. This meant that early jousts had a bit more room for maneuver than the one more commonly depicted.

  • @aaron6178
    @aaron6178 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Well done dudes! Ever since I read Ivanhoe, I've been awestruck by the joust. When I was in England, I visited Kenilworth castle. The main platform leading to the main gate was used in the 13th century for jousts. Standing there and imagining what it must have been like was exhilarating. Keep up the awesome work. History is rad.

  • @jessealexander9074
    @jessealexander9074 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love how the channel changes era’s everyday to keep things interesting

  • @Luke_Danger
    @Luke_Danger ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I can't help but wonder how much influence on our view of the medieval period came from the fact that jousting became a modern sport (with modern considerations like safety and formal rules) mixed with things like the Renaissance Fairs, along with I think a greater desire for absolutes. IE, the hand of the maiden going from an unofficial consequence of proving one's chivalric virtues and virility by martial prowess to being an explicit prize. Though that also might've just been Victorian "sensibilities" ignoring the agency of women and their role in the tournament as judges (IE, the winner of some forms of the melee not being the last man standing but whomever the ladies in attendance agreed had proven the most virtuous during the course of it)
    But it also I think makes sense that it got more dramatic in the later medieval period because that was also the period where the knightly class was losing military predominance to the first stages of the Infantry Revolution. Tournaments being grander spectacles were a chance for the knightly class to show off their importance to the crowd even if they were not as predominant as they used to be. Which also meshes with them becoming networking events - a knight's military predominance may have faded in the later periods, but their social status remained and a tournament was a great way to connect whether as being what amounts to a job application or just the prestige of victory.
    Heck, some rulers probably used jousts as the circuses to keep the masses entertained (which in the 1300s would be pretty important given some of the rebellions that occurred in the period) as well as ways to network with their vassals or gather up important figures and magnates to discuss matters in better terms than a formal court hearing. Not that different from the purposes of feasts (and probably why jousts were often connected to feasts to boot)

  • @jozzieokes3422
    @jozzieokes3422 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fascinating as always!

  • @o.cheburek
    @o.cheburek ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When your lovely chanel is sponsored by your lovely game,what could be better🤗

  • @shinsenshogun900
    @shinsenshogun900 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Of course everything chivalric has to be spawned in somewhere compellingly prestigious: France
    From Charlemagne and Lancelot, to Napoleon I and De Gaulle!
    On my way to kickstart a modern day melee tournament in these troubling times! Armchair and Limousine Jousts we go!

  • @llynhunter
    @llynhunter ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I always love your content. You give great bits of history that add to windows on the present, thank you.

  • @metatronyt
    @metatronyt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's one gorgeous thumbnail

  • @ulfur7584
    @ulfur7584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a video i didnt know i wanted but im glad you made, thanks

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm thinking of Heath Ledger knocking knights out while "We Will Rock You" by Queens plays in the background.

  • @chaosfire321
    @chaosfire321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys always make this so enthralling to follow!

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! ⚔🐎🙌

  • @walhallberserker610
    @walhallberserker610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very very interesting video thank you!

  • @richardcharay7788
    @richardcharay7788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed, thanks!

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Besides individual heralds in a participating knight's retinue acting as their hype man. The tournaments themselves would often be lead by the King-at-Arms, who was the master of ceremonies and presided over all the formalities of a tournament. Their duties included making the announcements at the start of every tournament, explaining the rules of the tournament to all the knights that were participating and making them swear to uphold the rules and make fair and just conduct of themselves.

  • @RoboticDragon
    @RoboticDragon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video.

  • @doyouevenpraise189
    @doyouevenpraise189 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You Paradox Medieval videos are always the best

  • @bryanditmore4219
    @bryanditmore4219 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stavros Halkias gives "Kings and Generals" a shout out on Theo Vons Podcas This Past Weekend

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video thanks ⚔️

  • @noobgonebad9860
    @noobgonebad9860 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these 2 collabing

  • @raulgonzalez-lp2fi
    @raulgonzalez-lp2fi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They missed the chance to add squires like in the mod AGOT, where you can be knighted after a period of time being squire for a knight, it gives a lot of role-playing potential. Oh well, maybe in a future update.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video

  • @Osvath97
    @Osvath97 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:12 tiniest feudal lords as an example of the most minor nobles? Those are the most minor of the HIGHER nobility. You have the lower nobility who did not have their own lordships, and could sometimes be completely landless.

  • @wolfu597
    @wolfu597 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting subject.

  • @georgetaylor4914
    @georgetaylor4914 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well thank you for making our dnd sessions easier to plan

  • @MrSinclairn
    @MrSinclairn ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your vid's concept of 'the herald'(8:30) is totally at odds with official English and Scottish records,as both show heralds were formally established as regular officials of the respective royal households,by the 14th-15th centuries.👍

  • @jozzieokes3422
    @jozzieokes3422 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey guys if you could joust in any any time period, what would it be?

  • @pridelander06
    @pridelander06 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *Sees a historical video about jousting*
    Me: Start this madness in the name of your king(s and generals)!

  • @neptunestylev
    @neptunestylev ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bring back jousting, bring back duels. Online chatter would sort it self out real quick like.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So... let's curb the free speech with sanctioned violence?

    • @peterspatling3151
      @peterspatling3151 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are in fact modern day jousting tournaments. th-cam.com/video/rPrIVEGioU0/w-d-xo.html

    • @neptunestylev
      @neptunestylev ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KingsandGenerals rights come with duties. It's your duty to be civil in discourse. If not, then sure one should have a right to defend their honor.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@neptunestylev no, rights are literally inalienable. You can forsake your duty and will still have the same rights.

    • @neptunestylev
      @neptunestylev ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KingsandGenerals understood 👍🏽. My original comment was mostly tongue in cheek. At any rate I love your channel. I used to adjunct in History and your channel makes me want to get back into it. Keep up the good work sir.

  • @joegambitt7414
    @joegambitt7414 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember i used to play this when I was a kid, me and my friends were using or bicycles, a broom and the tap of a trash can and we do this, good memories

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live close to one of the English tournament grounds (the land between Stamford and Warinsford (possibly Wansford)).

  • @markus9998
    @markus9998 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should make another video about the origins of Polo.

  • @theromanorder
    @theromanorder ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u do more videos on tactics

  • @noone4700
    @noone4700 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All week I’ve been hating hard on this DLC, but I bought it ofc and it’s actually really fucking good. Gives me a reason to slow the game speed down and actually read half the shit in the prompts. Worth while DLC

  • @AmarothEng
    @AmarothEng ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a medieval reenactor (doing the 1300 Wien), it's hard for me to fathom actual mounted joust with spears, even if bluntened, in just mail armor (meaning up until the early 14th century). Mail is impervious to cuts, very (VERY) hard to be slashed through, but it can be pierced, and is not all that great at stopping the blunt impact and trauma, which is the reason why mail was always accompanied by a solid plate helmet on the battlefields, because it's very much possible to get head smashed through mail coif as if it wasn't there by the blunt force alone. So, even a bluntened lance made out of soft wood can still be very much deadly to someone wearing only mail, or in the very least capable of breaking a rib or two. Perhaps they were wearing coat of plates over the mail, especially during the tournaments, but still, that is one dangerous fun to have, even if lances are not being couched by the lance rest back during this time.

    • @loods2215
      @loods2215 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steel plates over straight-up mail is mostly a fantasy thing, and when mail armor was still the best jousters could afford, they were definitely crazy enough to go with it.

  • @sevoo1579
    @sevoo1579 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great

  • @dueces1640
    @dueces1640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "my horse sucks" is the 12th century version of "bro, it was lag" lol

  • @Mifune41
    @Mifune41 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was the barefoot jouster at 6:55 a thing that actually happened?

  • @njdarda
    @njdarda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Partnership with Crusader King is a perfect fit.

  • @peterspatling3151
    @peterspatling3151 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The lance rest and grapper certainly did not make jousting safer. These items are being used to deliver stronger blows, therefore it gets more dangerous '^^

  • @bruenor82
    @bruenor82 ปีที่แล้ว

    a "how-to" for getting pureblooded next?

  • @pluimpje-i6z
    @pluimpje-i6z ปีที่แล้ว

    very very interesting and i want almost witness it by myself this rivalry in 1400,s at it,s height but i cannot with a absense of a impossible time-machine accours.

  • @mazenaljayousi49
    @mazenaljayousi49 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How this episode missed king henry ii of France death 😮

    • @rodchallis8031
      @rodchallis8031 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was keeping an eye out for that too.

  • @JPOGers
    @JPOGers ปีที่แล้ว

    When will part 9 of the post Caesar civil war series come out?

  • @niespinelr7022
    @niespinelr7022 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    did eastern europe or the muslim kingdoms had something similar to this or was all exclusive to central and western europe

  • @kairyumina6407
    @kairyumina6407 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Later period jousts honestly sound a lot like modern conventions. Like Comic con for war criminals :)

  • @TheNinjaDC
    @TheNinjaDC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok, be honest. How many of you couldn't help but hum, *"we will rock you,"* while watching this video?

  • @joeuoe1998
    @joeuoe1998 ปีที่แล้ว

    12th century start of tournaments may be fine for France, my ancestors took part in German ones already in the 10th century (written documents available)

    • @thibaultsardet7399
      @thibaultsardet7399 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically French nobles and knights were of Frankish origins. The process probably started before in France too, only it started to get serious later, this what he means. When the values of chivalry were a serious thing in 11th-12th century, especially in the Duchies and Counties of Aquitaine, Burgundy, Normandy, Provence etc...

  • @andreiyy
    @andreiyy ปีที่แล้ว

    I may just be imagining it but there seems to be a lot of alliteration in this episode

  • @abdullahad487
    @abdullahad487 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pls make episode Mughal Empire and guried Empire

  • @Hespi.
    @Hespi. ปีที่แล้ว

    Tours and Tournaments is awesome. Crusader Kings 3 become Crusader Kings 3.5 :D

  • @mohamad5762
    @mohamad5762 ปีที่แล้ว

    fun

  • @tatarcavalry2342
    @tatarcavalry2342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please upload Ottoman series you gave a too long break

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ✌️

  • @taulluscesar3525
    @taulluscesar3525 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @newtopokemon
    @newtopokemon ปีที่แล้ว

    L❤ve it 👏🐎🐴

  • @muffinman2490
    @muffinman2490 ปีที่แล้ว

    POV you still have to wait 3hrs for the DLC

  • @NFAIVIOUS
    @NFAIVIOUS ปีที่แล้ว

    someone's hype for the new CK III DLC 😂

  • @willgibbons1733
    @willgibbons1733 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they used to host tournaments in Smithfield, London. I'm not 100 percent sure though. If anyone knows any actual locations in UK I'd appreciate it greatly.

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 ปีที่แล้ว

      In 1194, Richard I, ever eager to raise funds for his forthcoming crusade, licensed five new sites as places for tournaments. These were: between Salisbury and Wilton in Wiltshire; between Warwick and Kenilworth in Warwickshire; between Blyth and Tickhill in Nottinghamshire; between Stamford (Lincs) and an unknown place called Warinford (possibly Wansford). The last was between Brackley and Mixbury in Northamptonshire.

    • @willgibbons1733
      @willgibbons1733 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@neiloflongbeck5705 thank you

    • @willgibbons1733
      @willgibbons1733 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@neiloflongbeck5705 I'll have to look further into these locations.

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anyone here watch full metal jousting when they had it airing on history? Not a bad show, and I always wanted a set of that armor 👍🫡

  • @ozgurceltikci9106
    @ozgurceltikci9106 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:55 Sounds like a natural progression from a millennium ago when Roman ladies of noble houses soaking themselves in gladiator sweat...

  • @ShortsClips445
    @ShortsClips445 ปีที่แล้ว

    i swear the god befor even started video I was know is sponsored by paradox

  • @Trubripes
    @Trubripes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL Jousting Tournaments had TAILGATES ? It's a medieval combination of football and tinder. XD

  • @desertfox2117
    @desertfox2117 ปีที่แล้ว

    Templar when?

  • @randomdude4255
    @randomdude4255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    +10% morale of armies

  • @wasfureinbua
    @wasfureinbua ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah medieval stuff :D

  • @jerkurface602
    @jerkurface602 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do more videos about Native Americans ✊️

  • @jackson857
    @jackson857 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want to see a cool joust watch Episode 1 of House of the Dragon.

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 ปีที่แล้ว

      or "A Knight's Tale" which features Heath Ledger

  • @user-kc7qx3zv4t
    @user-kc7qx3zv4t ปีที่แล้ว

    So, Sims from Paradox.

  • @FordyTheConeSmoker
    @FordyTheConeSmoker ปีที่แล้ว

    Still waiting to find out how the Mongols were involved in the creation of Sir Lancelot 🤔

  • @gamerfound1033
    @gamerfound1033 ปีที่แล้ว

    when is the next rise of the Ottoman empire coming up

  • @davebowman9000
    @davebowman9000 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Clacks coconuts together in imitation of a horse's advance*

  • @duke0fmarlborough
    @duke0fmarlborough ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is how you do sponsored content.

  • @MrQdiddy85
    @MrQdiddy85 ปีที่แล้ว

    So basically they were playing capture the flag years before call of duty

  • @smpk9667
    @smpk9667 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An actual relevant sponsor segment? Pretty sure thats against the rules :)

  • @vitorpereira9515
    @vitorpereira9515 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    During the Sassanid era, Iranian nobles held joistings. There are even pieces with illustrations of Iranian knights in disputes.

    • @shinsenshogun900
      @shinsenshogun900 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Based Aswaran cataphracts. No wonder the Roman Empire were in a great military anarchy

  • @rhysdbooth
    @rhysdbooth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MY LORD ULRIC VON LICHTENSTEIN!!!

  • @coleman_trebor0
    @coleman_trebor0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jousting is real? I always thought it only existed in media

    • @shinsenshogun900
      @shinsenshogun900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now imagine if the ancient Persians, Greeks, Celts, Romans, Germans, & Huns enjoyed jousts

    • @miguelpadeiro762
      @miguelpadeiro762 ปีที่แล้ว

      The media tends to shit on the middle ages rather than romanticize it by this point tbh, recycling stereotypes created in the renaissance and mirroed in the victorian age as to portray their age as "enlightened" and the past "middle age" as a dark age of misery

    • @miguelpadeiro762
      @miguelpadeiro762 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@shinsenshogun900Isn't joust a medieval thing?
      Greeks enjoyed more direct displays of physical prowess rather than pompous jousts and the Romans had the arenas and hippodromes, no?

    • @shinsenshogun900
      @shinsenshogun900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@miguelpadeiro762 right, because throughout history they don’t seem to have reciprocated well with sports that involve mounted cavalry duels to compete with circus and game sports, even if in certain times where they peaked as empires they never have formed up such an earlier rendition of jousts simply because of technology and societal norms to form such an iconic contest game of the medieval age

    • @steffanyschwartz7801
      @steffanyschwartz7801 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@shinsenshogun900in ancient times Gladiator events and Chariot battles were the hype. The highest paid sports player ever documented was a early Byzantine Charioteer

  • @adidnac
    @adidnac 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Main requirements of becoming a knight: being the 3rd son of some local ruler

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 ปีที่แล้ว

    🗿👍🏿

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So the tournaments, jousting and Arthurian legends sort of functioned as propagandas of the days back then, right? After all, we all know that the knights were just an army of brutal thugs in armors on backs of horses who only paid lip services to the monarchs and the Church and can actually do whatever they pleased in their domains with no consequences whatsoever and can always lied and/or bribed their ways out of troubles with their superiors anytime because their superiors will always needed them to wage their wars. So the only reason why the knights are willing to uphold chivalry is because they are in public places such as during festivities and are under the direct eyes of their superiors.

    • @alexk7973
      @alexk7973 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think applying modern sensibilities to historic cultures has very limited success. Underlying the concept of chivalry and knighthood was the entire culture of the time period, which is very different from our own today. Most importantly, people were members of their own class to a point of almost being their own species. How you interacted with people from a different class was held to a completely different standard. Which is why the tenth son of a poor landless knight, not in line to any title whatsoever, but nevertheless being born into the class of nobility, could be a squire, potentially be knighted and take part in a tournament, where he would be measured by how he behaved around the lords and ladies of the nobility. And nobody would care how he treated the milk maid. You could be a rampaging tyrannic rapist terrifying the peasants left and right and still be the most chivalric person around if you knew to hold up standards around those of your own class. And just about the worst thing you could do was try to cross class boundaries - in either direction. i.e. trying to better your station, or marrying someone of lower rank that everyone would agree would never make anything but a fling.
      And the son of a rich wool merchant or even worse, of a well to do and successful peasant family (some did indeed do quite well for themselves), would never have a chance at squiring for anyone.

    • @alexk7973
      @alexk7973 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      so what I‘m saying is that with our modern upbringing and sensibilities, to us calling someone who only behaves well around one set of people and like a complete brute around another „chivalric“ might be the height of hypocrisy, but someone with a contemporary mindset wouldn‘t see it that way and wouldn‘t understand what we were going on about or what our problem was

    • @lerneanlion
      @lerneanlion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alexk7973 But it's still propaganda. And that is bad, right?

    • @alexk7973
      @alexk7973 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lerneanlion well, according to the official definition of the word propaganda (cambridge dictionary) it is the broadcasting of only part of the information with the intention of influencing people‘s opinions. In one way it probably was that, in so far as any political campaign contains propaganda to some extent. Because the tournament scene was where a lot of politics and social maneuvering happened.
      But if we‘re going by the colloquial understanding of the word propaganda, as in spreading falsehoods, it wouldn‘t have been. Because both the knight and the intended audience of his fellow contemporary people understood the word „chivalry“ in those ancient terms, so within the class structure. They wouldn‘t have understood it to mean „this guy is nice to old ladies, small children and dogs“, but rather „this guy knows how to speak properly, behave as befits his status (i.e. is polite to the ladies of his rank or higher, humble to his superiors and can be trusted to carry out a task he is given), is a good athlete and a good conversationalist if sat next to you at a banquet“. It is only to us current people, who have been raised with a different understanding of the word „chivalric“ that we would feel lied to, imagining ourselves as a member of the audience at one of those tournaments.
      Any communication happens within the framework of the common understanding of the vocabulary used by the communicating parties. And we might be using some of the same words as they did back then, but attaching a completely different meaning to it. In some ways, it is a completely different language and culture. So to understand their communications, you would first have to understand the words as they did back then. And only then can you accurately say that any speaker at that time was lying, exaggerating and spreading propaganda with the things he said to an intended audience of his contemporaries, who understood the terms and took them in the social setting that they were used.
      Nowadays we know that a lot of the things said by politicians in a voting campaign should be taken with a grain - or whole mountain - of salt. We understand the kind of language and tactics they use and we understand exactly the implications of the social context of „campaigning“. People in a medieval tournament‘s audience would have had a similar understanding of the occasion.

    • @lerneanlion
      @lerneanlion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alexk7973 I know that propagandas did contain some facts. But my problem when propaganda is that they often exggarated what really happened or even having some lies added for the personal agendas of the ones who are spreading such propaganda.
      During the Middle Ages, it's usually during the tournaments and feasts where politics are often brought up in order to form alliances and discuss about how to spread propagandas against the enemies and to gain support of the civilians. And this is what led to the Crusades in the first place. Yes, the Seljuk Turks did causing harms to the Christians in the Middle East but they also indiscrimately harming everyone, including Muslims like them. So when the Pope heard of the plea for help from the Emperor in Constantinople at the time and also heard of the actions of the Mad Caliph in Cairo, he and his bishops exaggerated how insane Caliph al-Hakam is and even twisted the fact that the Seljuk Turks indiscriminately attacked everyone to just harassing Christian pilgrims in the Middle East.

  • @markusskram4181
    @markusskram4181 ปีที่แล้ว

    :)

  • @imanrahimi1739
    @imanrahimi1739 ปีที่แล้ว

    Knight and knighthood began from Iran during Sassanian era. ❤🤍💚. 💜💛

  • @aegystierone8505
    @aegystierone8505 ปีที่แล้ว

    Modern "jousting" still exists, they're called "fights".....i.e. UFC, Professional Boxing, jujitsu, wrestling..... 😃

  • @cekoforbidden9317
    @cekoforbidden9317 ปีที่แล้ว

    You loved jousting tournament until your heir joined it..

  • @khusugten3773
    @khusugten3773 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mongols: this is a child’s play cute 😆

    • @thibaultsardet7399
      @thibaultsardet7399 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was also to temper the ardor of the knights, and to enrich themselves during periods of "peace".

  • @darthsidius9631
    @darthsidius9631 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you sound like ancient Greek?

  • @romanbarna1316
    @romanbarna1316 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:24
    The intent behind this rule is most likely to discourage knights from attacking the opponent's horse, and rather focus on the knight.

  • @markusskram4181
    @markusskram4181 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    :)