PWBA Bowling US Women's Open 06 23 2019 (HD)

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  • This show was televised on CBS Sports Network. The USBC, PWBA, and CBS own the all the rights, I do not. This upload is for those that don't have the channel available and would like to watch the show.

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  • @YTmaniac
    @YTmaniac 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The announcer Kelley gives great descriptions of what is going on which I am finding very helpful as a new bowler. I will be watching this multiple times to get the most out of it.

  • @JDilla2285
    @JDilla2285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im sorry i read why lol glad your back. Ima bowler myself and i rely on yall alot for these PBA events lol. Got alot to catch up on at work. Thank you for the uploads

  • @Duelerama90
    @Duelerama90 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    So glad you're back; PBAbowling channel is so far behind on vids. Hope you had a great holiday

    • @bosoares
      @bosoares  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I did, thanks. I got a few more to upload. I have to find out how I'll do the tour finals because those were 4 hour shows and every time I've tried doing a video that was over 2 hours I had problems. Let's see what happens.

    • @steveharalson8767
      @steveharalson8767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bosoares 0

  • @speedwolf5212
    @speedwolf5212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Glad your back bosoares, we missed ya!

  • @michaelferri2400
    @michaelferri2400 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks for NOT featuring the winner on the cover image. I wish posters wouldn't spoil the results by doing that. Better still would be to show all 4 or 5 lined up in stepladder formation. Thanks for posting this exciting final!

  • @sodarulz
    @sodarulz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The man is back! That was a fun show!

  • @Clothahump1
    @Clothahump1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love watching Danielle bowl. Yeah, she's a babe and all that, but she just has her mechanics down so well. Just a pleasure to watch someone who has it all together.

  • @Tcrror
    @Tcrror 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What an unbelievably clutch performance.

    • @NotQuiteEpic
      @NotQuiteEpic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's all I could say during the tenth frame of both last matches. She's so CLUTCH!

  • @NikoPuharBowling
    @NikoPuharBowling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    YOUU'RE BACK. Welcome back.

    • @bosoares
      @bosoares  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got a few to upload. Sit back and enjoy.

  • @martingranholm3495
    @martingranholm3495 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for upload and welcome back dood :)

  • @LegendaryMike
    @LegendaryMike 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Welcome Back! Hope you had a good time

  • @Jackal_Blitz
    @Jackal_Blitz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would never in a million years say Danielle didn't deserve that win, but a fair amount of luck went her way in those last few frames. Tanya throws a perfect shot and leaves a 7, Danielle's first two strikes weren't exactly flush hits, and she damn near left a split on her last ball when she needed 8.
    Just the way it goes sometimes I guess.

  • @rudyseidl7645
    @rudyseidl7645 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

  • @DBobbyscomedynews
    @DBobbyscomedynews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've never understood why pros have that sheepish look after getting a Brooklyn strike. 75% of my Brooklyns are strikes. My best game ever came when I decided to deliberately aim for the Brooklyn.

  • @troymedlock5570
    @troymedlock5570 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That DV8 Prowler Liz is using really hits.

  • @TheBaciomuna
    @TheBaciomuna 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    woot woot !!!!!! you are the man Bosoares!!!!!!!

  • @mirzafaysal6468
    @mirzafaysal6468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Liz is the best bowling 🎳 player. She’s a babe😍

    • @marksauce2383
      @marksauce2383 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That polish girl is pretty hot too.😮

    • @Joseph-zs8jm
      @Joseph-zs8jm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes!!

  • @望月-g4o
    @望月-g4o 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    finally ! thx for upload!

  • @totynewish9369
    @totynewish9369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big game.thanks.

  • @danstevenson6612
    @danstevenson6612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some great bowling to watch here! Exciting 10th frames! In the final game I'm not sure why Tanya started crying before the game was finished. Danielle could have lost as easily as winning.

    • @BenjWarrant
      @BenjWarrant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She cried because she knew she could have bowled better.

  • @andrewphillips2179
    @andrewphillips2179 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it was an exciting stepladder finals of the US Women's Open

  • @ruthkjaer7203
    @ruthkjaer7203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's that on Shannon's leg

    • @grahamefreestone5309
      @grahamefreestone5309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kinesiology tape. It helps improve muscle or ligament movement.

  • @buttercupp9035
    @buttercupp9035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have to curve in a professional League

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No you do not. Walter ray Williams for much of his career threw a straight ball. And never threw a big hook.

  • @林全-l7l
    @林全-l7l ปีที่แล้ว +1

    抗壓性真💪螢幕前看了都緊張

  • @Steve.Orland
    @Steve.Orland ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:05:25 perfect embodiment of “bruh” lol

  • @Stargazer804
    @Stargazer804 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stone 7😱 she got robbed of a major title.

    • @marksauce2383
      @marksauce2383 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's bowling. Throw a ball get a strike. Throw the exact same spot get a split! Son of a b__ch!!! Makes the game more interesting. The unpredictability.

  • @tomy5868
    @tomy5868 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they are all always so BIG...

  • @kevinstoops2623
    @kevinstoops2623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats 2 McEWAN! Even though U beat my girl Shannon O'keefe. Soft spot 4 McKendree coaches & alums

  • @philmedley342
    @philmedley342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Smash 7 un Real both deserved win

  • @Exalerion
    @Exalerion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those were a loooot of lucky breaks..

  • @denisnepton6419
    @denisnepton6419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's go Liz

    • @denisnepton6419
      @denisnepton6419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ne te laisse pas impressionner contre qui tu joue

  • @1625a5
    @1625a5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ball speed is too slow. I think 1-2 pocket is more powerfull than 1-3

  • @jspur7507
    @jspur7507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't agree with Liz when she says that the lanes have to be this tough when your in the majors, and the lanes are so badly oil conditioned that I would never need to bowl because it's just to hard to strike, and as a result I haven't bowled for over 30 years. So I guess I have to bowl when I get to heaven --- maybe the rapture of the church will happen and I can go real soon.

    • @raydorsey9683
      @raydorsey9683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂 God can’t give you more hand if you don’t have it.

  • @gerrysoto811
    @gerrysoto811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Danielle married me!!

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a lie yet funny

  • @JDilla2285
    @JDilla2285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea i wonder why it took so long

    • @AverageLeagueHack
      @AverageLeagueHack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was on vacation. He informed us before he left.

  • @ianelgar6472
    @ianelgar6472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stefanie mcewan.. hottest woman on the tour

    • @cobrakaiX
      @cobrakaiX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Daria Pająk or Clara Guerrero

    • @msts3325
      @msts3325 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who is Stefanie McEwan?

    • @ianelgar6472
      @ianelgar6472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@msts3325 oh my bad. Danielle mcewan.

    • @msts3325
      @msts3325 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ianelgar6472, I was just messing with you. 🤣🤣

    • @stratocaster0842
      @stratocaster0842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nah bruh Josie Barnes all day cutest smile going

  • @KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997
    @KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I LOVE the 6 practice shots thing....Never understood why people wanna practice for 15 minutes and wear out their line!! smh

  • @michael2244
    @michael2244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Liz Kuhlkin is alright lookin =)

    • @TheShagdog1313
      @TheShagdog1313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree

    • @chuckcalkins5546
      @chuckcalkins5546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lovely

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      AGREED. THICK too. I'm glad her pants didnt split.

    • @Joseph-zs8jm
      @Joseph-zs8jm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Beautiful

  • @wethepeople3124
    @wethepeople3124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These bowlers are HOT 2:34

  • @HarmlessP0TAT0
    @HarmlessP0TAT0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Damn...o Keefe looks like she just came back from the dead

    • @Ironfangzu
      @Ironfangzu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "back from the dead"? She looks like she is still a walking dead. Imagine waking up in bed, turning, and finding her next to you? Scaaaaaaaaary, haha

    • @HarmlessP0TAT0
      @HarmlessP0TAT0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ironfangzu waking up and seeing her I wouldn't say o keefe.. I would say o shit

  • @chandlerb6728
    @chandlerb6728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    27:02

  • @menchiegarcia6689
    @menchiegarcia6689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi

  • @bnegs521
    @bnegs521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Now I'm smellin' like Indonesia"

  • @ethanjs672
    @ethanjs672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finaly another video lol

    • @bosoares
      @bosoares  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I got a few to upload. Sit back and enjoy.

  • @jjojo3865
    @jjojo3865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ~"아냐, Boing, "정용길 마이 좌표는~"6번 래인___"파워(속도)______(턴)_6+1해드핀향해Go다_--------=

  • @williamrandall3786
    @williamrandall3786 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good lord is Shannon Sellers a knockout!!

  • @Charmander009
    @Charmander009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don’t they combine male and female bowlers into one league . Or are these girls not good enough to compete with men

    • @SirJoelsuf1
      @SirJoelsuf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chicks CAN bowl on the "men's tour" and do.

    • @msts3325
      @msts3325 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HA!

  • @Pbavowler
    @Pbavowler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rather had tonya to win.
    Congrats. That big four hurt tonya.

    • @samuelcalderon2717
      @samuelcalderon2717 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pbabowler not really. A US Open really should NOT be a first title for someone. Danielle deserved it more. I really couldn’t imagine “Tannya Roumimper US open champion”...not to be rude but it really wouldn’t have made much sense.

    • @cy_lanix130
      @cy_lanix130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samuelcalderon2717 any title is fit to be a first title, no matter if its a major or a standard event.

  • @stephenrussell3756
    @stephenrussell3756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shannnon O’Keefe looks like she just filed Mike Wasowski’s paperwork or just came out of Area 51

  • @ruthkjaer7203
    @ruthkjaer7203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow...giant spider eyelashes pasted on Shannon's eyes🤣

    • @tomy5868
      @tomy5868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they try so hard to make them look like glamour girls instead of just let them bow.

  • @sadpanda9455
    @sadpanda9455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If an infected hang nail is an injury, it's not a sport.

  • @20alphabet
    @20alphabet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pathetic what bowling has fallen to.

  • @marcelbb3051
    @marcelbb3051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    turbo Hintern Fett Frau

  • @robertmartinez8268
    @robertmartinez8268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg it’s not called a Brooklyn for a right handed it’s called a Jersey when it crosses left of the head pin they r killing me lol

    • @djs495
      @djs495 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's always been a Brooklyn.

    • @SirGhostly
      @SirGhostly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you from NYC or LI? pretty much the only areas that calls it a Jersey strike hehe. I didn't realize people called it Brooklyn til I started watching pro bowling.

    • @robertmartinez8268
      @robertmartinez8268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just because THEY say it’s Brooklyn doesn’t mean that’s what it is. Left of New York City is jersey. Right of nyc is Brooklyn end of story

    • @SirJoelsuf1
      @SirJoelsuf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always thought both terms meant the same thing.

    • @stratocaster0842
      @stratocaster0842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve heard Brooklyn thousands of times.
      This is my first time hearing “jersey”

  • @andrewphillips2179
    @andrewphillips2179 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Danielle McEwan has gotten some fortunate strikes in both of her matches

  • @benjidog1514
    @benjidog1514 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do they display their age? Why is it relevant?

    • @Diah_TV
      @Diah_TV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Howdy Y'all people are just curious about players profiles, this happens in every sport. Lol

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should also show their height and especially weight

    • @Steve.Orland
      @Steve.Orland ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bnegs521100% agree lol

  • @alonzotanner1226
    @alonzotanner1226 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn i got nothing against Danielle McEwan but I was really pulling for Tannya. She just got nervous and choked at key points where she could’ve taken the lead and shut her out. Also, I wish Kelly would replace annoying ass Rob Stone as a commentator. Shes way better and isn’t annoying at all. Thanks for this post!

  • @ronaldharris7639
    @ronaldharris7639 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This was nice to watch without the drunk chanting crowd and clown guy

    • @SirJoelsuf1
      @SirJoelsuf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bruh...seriously. And no Rob Stone acting like an overgrown frat douche either. I HATED the Bayside crowds. Cringe over 9000. I don't care for the overt silence either, but the Bayside crowds were so frustrating to deal with as a spectator. But if I were bowling I'd probably prefer them haha

  • @coolhandcoop1524
    @coolhandcoop1524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    35:54 That shot would've converted the 7/10 easily.

    • @SirJoelsuf1
      @SirJoelsuf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh...right? And Shan weighs like 120 lbs soaking wet. I weigh like 100 lbs more than her and can't do that lol

  • @TheMrLeapFrog
    @TheMrLeapFrog 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Welcome back from Vacation! We all missed you!

  • @MarvinTheMusicMan
    @MarvinTheMusicMan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Bosoares is back with a bang....4 uploads in one day...Thank you from the UK.

  • @bixbylegend
    @bixbylegend 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hope you had a good vacation.
    We waited patiently and so glad your back. Your videos are best to watch.! 🎳🎳👍

  • @EVgolf
    @EVgolf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Glad to have you back! Missed ya. Thank you for the upload!

  • @mathematrucker
    @mathematrucker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty cool how Shannon's pickup of the 10 at 1:00:11 produced a rare rebound back onto the pin deck...looks like she would've picked up the 3-10 the REALLY hard way!

  • @williamgunkel8743
    @williamgunkel8743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really enjoy Kelly's commentary. I learn so much listening to her.

  • @TheOriginalNeOnMoDeLz
    @TheOriginalNeOnMoDeLz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember seeing Liz as a young woman bowling Nebraska she has become quite the woman

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes she sure did. Lots of girth, size and power.

  • @Charmander009
    @Charmander009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When the women bowl they stick that left arm out even after the shot . How come men don’t do that . Is it cuz it looks feminine

    • @SirJoelsuf1
      @SirJoelsuf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Generally, dudes aren't as flexible as chicks are in that aspect.

  • @SirJoelsuf1
    @SirJoelsuf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    35:56 tfw chicks who weigh 100 lbs less than you and who are half a foot shorter than you make 10 pins fly out of the pit harder than you can. I met Shannon about 2 years ago at a Megabucks tournament along with Rhino Page. That chick is TINY. And Rhino was cool, counts cards in Blackjack like I do lol

  • @wesleylyda5392
    @wesleylyda5392 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    welcome back!!! you're the best!!!!

  • @Beatlefan67
    @Beatlefan67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please pardon my ignorance but I was under the impression all lanes were always 60 feet long? (I'm a skittle player in England and only go bowling occasionally - purely social)

    • @thenungod
      @thenungod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im from england too, domt call them skittles

    • @Beatlefan67
      @Beatlefan67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @jackthestripper187 Thanks - I'm pleased to be informed on the finer points of the game. As my earlier post says, I'm a skittler which is a whole different ball game(sic) Our alleys/balls/pins etc can vary alley to alley, town to town, village to village, league to league but as we always point out, when we play, it's the same for both teams. Thanks again.

  • @jarvislaw7213
    @jarvislaw7213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These ladies have a bright future 🎳

  • @tukaberry
    @tukaberry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does no one hear that squeaky noise every time they show a bowler setting up before they throw?! This was driving me crazy!!

  • @Pinoystriker
    @Pinoystriker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome back Bosoares. You are the best

  • @Aaron-jg4sn
    @Aaron-jg4sn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    welcome back !!

  • @shobakannan7530
    @shobakannan7530 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so much tensed. congrats winners

  • @philperry3639
    @philperry3639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is Danielle throwing a Thunder Road Pearl or an Astro Physix with surface?

    • @sydneyrenee7088
      @sydneyrenee7088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a HyRoad Pearl

    • @philperry3639
      @philperry3639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sydneyrenee7088 Thank you. I did not think of that one.

  • @pinbolosboliches346
    @pinbolosboliches346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT DEPORT EL MEJOR THE WORLD🌎🌏🌍🎳🍺😎

  • @강창동-j6v
    @강창동-j6v 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wellcome back! thank you for video upload

  • @darenmaples9872
    @darenmaples9872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got the strikes when she needed them but damn most of them were ugly.

  • @pwh1t3y
    @pwh1t3y 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the devil is in the audience 13:20

  • @Pinoystriker
    @Pinoystriker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She didn't mention Marshal Kent.

  • @donaldsmith4767
    @donaldsmith4767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that a femboy?

  • @Ironfangzu
    @Ironfangzu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    gotta love the classless way that Shannon shook her head when Danielle carried the light hit and then the high hit in the 10th and 11th. Hey Shannon, show a little class. You're a pro bowler. You know that many, many matches are decided by lucky carries, stone 8, 9 or 10's, etc. Luck and pin action are part of the game. Don't sit there and shake your head like you've never had a lucky break.

    • @ESchubert
      @ESchubert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought the exact same thing! Way to shake your head, Shannon. -_-

    • @thepaulbradley
      @thepaulbradley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Disagree... just, as you say, you should appreciate when the pins fall your way, it's ok to be pissed off when your opponent gets lucky too.

    • @richardramon9277
      @richardramon9277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think she was shaking her head because she was disappointed in herself for not carrying on the left lane

    • @Jesusfanatic0711
      @Jesusfanatic0711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@richardramon9277 agreed if anyone knows Shannon from any other matches or her other videos off the lanes she’s and advocate for the sport not a hater at all. She’s disappointed in herself and wanted to do better not relying on her opponent to make mistakes.

    • @cy_lanix130
      @cy_lanix130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jesusfanatic0711 also, danielle got really lucky on those first two shots in the 10th

  • @jamesbomar3903
    @jamesbomar3903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quit fekking around on the approach and BOWL, for Pete's sake,

  • @jeffwrensch564
    @jeffwrensch564 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Shannon really needs to 😃 more, she's so pretty.

  • @simonlan7091
    @simonlan7091 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    VV

  • @forzahellas81
    @forzahellas81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    welcome back man!!!

  • @cobrakaiX
    @cobrakaiX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting I don’t see any women on here using the 2 handed style. It’d be nice to see that on tour. I like seeing a variety of styles.

    • @SirJoelsuf1
      @SirJoelsuf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most chicks let their accuracy speak for themselves. And if any of them were to throw two handed they would take a massive hit in ball speed. A lot of these chicks are throwing 15 lb balls and weigh 130 tops...except chicks like Liz of course.

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They dont have the strength and athleticism to do it plain and simple.

    • @cy_lanix130
      @cy_lanix130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bnegs521 yes they do

    • @marksauce2383
      @marksauce2383 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boobs are in the way

  • @eliotmoore3282
    @eliotmoore3282 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't like Shannon O'Queefe

  • @pencilman1268
    @pencilman1268 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    not gonna lie kelly is kinda rude towards liz

    • @Diah_TV
      @Diah_TV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pencil Man how???

  • @final3119
    @final3119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God watching women's bowling is so boring. Slow ball speeds, barely any revs. Zzzzzzz

    • @cy_lanix130
      @cy_lanix130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      umm just because they’re not throwing 450-500 revs doesn’t make them “boring”