WILL 25 CENTURION ANNIHILATE 25 TIGER TANKS?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Inspired by the story of the Western front, spring 45, when Germany was at last stand. British sent their new Centurion tanks to the frontline, but they arrived too late and never got used, what is supposed to do - match and destroy Tigers tanks. So today, we jump into a what-if scenario, where these two go head to head, on a new map, to find out if Centurion could be a worthy nemesis and annihilate might Tiger tank. This is 25 vs 25, tanks vs tanks.
A group of Tigers manages to ambush Centurions, taking down several but soon the tides will turn, and the epic show will get started.
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World: When I say tiger what do you imagine?
Germany:
Coll of Duty 2
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@@afrikakorp1527 your pfp means you're a man of culture
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Everyone after 2020: Panzerkampfwagon Ausf E Tiger 1
Germans when they captured enemy tanks: I used the enemy tank to destroy the enemy tank
British when captured enemy tanks: i put them on display at museum
@@navyseal1689 For example, Tiger 131 in the Bovington Museum.
Germany Tigers I: "Finally a worth opponent, our battle will be legendary" semicit.
Tiger I: “call an ambulance, but not for me”
Usual cat loving shite
Tiger II: oh hi mark
I love how a tiger I can't pen a t-34/85 front at 200m at wt
@@zsoltlang2144maybe that is legendary hatch you meant..?
Yo, at 1:40 thats a mistake, the Cents we see in this vid have the 84 mm (20 pounder) cannon.
Great video anyways
i was like,76 mm???
Correct
The one in the video is tge mark 3 with the 20 pounder. Correct
Ho 84?
Should be centu mk3 instead mk1 cuz the turret model of the centu
As soon as the battle started, radio traffic would have meant RAF Typhoons being dispatched, so even if the Tigers got the upper hand they would have been totally destroyed minutes later!
Statistically, CAS was very poor at actually destroying tanks in WW2. They had a low hit rate and an even lower chance to critically damage the vehicle. The majority of CAS' effect on tanks was the morale and psychological impact it had, while also preventing many units from moving during the day.
@@bluntcabbage6042 True, but an enemy that's reluctant to manoeuvre because they don't wish to attract CAS' attention is a much easier target.
@@AdamSmith-kq6ys It's different on a division level for maneuvering. It's not the same maneuvering as when a platoon of tanks zig zag or hop between groups of trees, it's moreso a long, exposed column of vehicles trundling down a road with little cover. For a unit as big as, in some cases, entire brigades, it's safer to remain dug in with anti-air defenses rather than tear up all of your fortifications and make yourself even more exposed by trying to relocate.
That and also the Tigers would have had a very difficult time beating the Centurion. The frontal armour was far too difficult for the Tiger to penetrate. Whereas the Centurion could easily knock out a Tiger from a further distance.
3:56 that dismemberment and gore wow!
It reminds me a movie called fury
@@vizcapricilliatrisman1385 it's even more bizarre than that movie. The way this npc just "falls apart" is super creepy.
Wtf, I honestly expected a Centurion victory! Anyways, a Second World War relic going head to head with an early Cold War warrior. Good video!
Despite the Tigers won, Centurion showed exceptional performance, they could have won that too if luck was a bit more on their side. Thanks
The Centurion is the superior tank, there's no doubt, but the Tiger I is still a match for it.
The centurion was made with fighting tigers and Panthers in mind
The earliest centurions reached the battlefields a few days after the German surrender
Yes because a video game is a accurate portrayal of actual real life performance...
@@Wanderer628 right on, captain.
Stupid question. The Churchill was the most capable tank of its time. One served with the British Army in Gulf War 1, in 1991, in an engineering capacity. It was an amazing tank with one of he longest service histories. It was the best fielded during the Korean War and the Israelis used them to great effect in several conflicts.
Tiger 1 to centurion: I am old, but not obsolete.
Love the Tiger I💯❤
True xddd
*transmission breaks*
@trueblueprussian 23 *low production numbers and low fuel reserves intensify*
@trueblueprussian 23 Yes they were. Tigers were very rarely seen on the battlefield due to low production numbers, and the Tiger's power was greatly exaggerated by German propaganda. Germany didn't have much fuel too
@trueblueprussian 23 does the tiger 2 a decent tank also is it true that the tank break down if its in the bumpy road?
Ive been fascinated on tanks recently so I'm doing research just for fun
As much of a slugging match as that was; I Wish my War Thunder experience in the Tiger I vs the Centurion was anywhere near that good.
Nope i don't want to see 20pdr apds at br 5.3
Fantasy Centurion (not yet in service) engages Tiger I instead of Tiger II which was entering service.
+@@khoaanh2224+ This was back when both Tiger I variants were at BR 5.7; the pain was Real!
@@cnlbenmc constantly being sucked into 6.7 black hole. but now that german 6.7 is dead maybe we wont see as much uptier
Nobody wants to play a match where they will lose. Most people will flank, or play a better tank.
Tigers sucks in War Thunder.
2:20 shooting 2000km from the deserts of North Africa
Don't see too many Tiger tanks these days.. but.. Centurions are still soldiering on in some countries... they had a lot of capacity for upgrading. The later 20 pounder and later still the L7 105 kept them relevant.
I would take a Centurion any day into the Cold War.
Seeing the Linup brings back some bad old memories from German 5.7 BR on War Thunder, especially that damndable APDS rounds!
As much as I'm not a British tank fanboy, they should have won. It's clearly the better tank. It's newer, a better fcs, and the fact this was settled when Isreal used Centurions against I believe the Syrians in on of their early wars many many decades ago. They were roundly decimated by the Centurions.
I'd have thought a straight slugging match with both sides just going toe to toe was an obvious win for the Pzkw VI. Thicker armour and a larger gun. Normally in battle the overall strategic position dictates one side needs to take the other's position. Even so, no sensible Centurion commander just sits there and tries to slug it out with a Tiger. He would use his superior mobility to outflank his enemy?
The only thing I will say is that those are not the Centurion Mk I with the 17-pdr like history says. That’s the Centurion Mk III with the 84mm 32-pdr, which was five years after the fact. Just saying this is not a fair fight. But then again, there hasn’t been fair fights since Napoleon.
I think 3 Centurion tanks will destroy 25 Tigers! Their 115 mm armour peircing rounds will go through them like a knife through butter!
Centurion only received 105mm guns in the late 1950s/early 1960s. The first couple of marks had the 76mm 17-pdr gun which was replaced by the 84mm 20-pdr gun from about 1948 on the mark III. Even so it's a bit of an uneven match with 1942 Tigers vs post-war Centurions, the Tigers only won because the Centurions used crap tactics instead of trying to exploit their advantages.
3:57 tank commander FUCKING DIES
Was this maybe based on Mark Felton's recent video? Saying the Centurion was designed as the Tiger's nemesis but sadly saw no action in WW2
Syria bought Tigers after the war, used them in the Golan heights against I believe a mix of Centurion and other tanks. It did not go well for the Tigers in real life.
They didn't have Tigers, they had just some panzer IVs, Stugs and maybe some Jagdpanzer IV.
In reality the Centurions would have easily destroyed the Tigers. The Centurion was just a superior tank in virtually every way. Not to mention that in the video they are Centurion Mk.IIIs which had an even more powerful 20 pounder gun. Which were far more effective than any German WWII AT gun. The Centurion Mk. III would have massacred the Tiger way before the Tiger would even see it.
The Tiger I would still be a match for the Centurion early variant. Anyway, the Centurion can be easly destroyed by the Tiger II and other german tank destroyers of the late 1944 and 1945. Plus, the 20 pounder isn't the best anti-tank gun. The german 128 mm anti tank gun was the best of the war.
@@jinglejangle3287 No it wouldn't really, the Tiger I would have struggled against the frontal armour of a Centurion whereas the Centurion would little trouble with the Tiger I. The Tiger I's frontal armour was notoriously vulnerable to the 17 pounder or 90mm gun on the Pershing, the 85mm gun on the T-34, heck even the 76mm on the Sherman and Hellcat could knock out a Tiger's frontal armour. The Centurion outclassed the Tiger in almost every way.
The Centurion could also knock out a Tiger II and German tank destroyers with relative ease even with a 20 pounder. if they were within 1000 yards (which was standard combat ranges back then)
The 128 mm may have been the best German gun on paper, but it saw limited action. The Soviet 100mm and 122mm guns were just as if not better than the 128mm.
@@Frserthegreenengine the 76 mm could not pen the Tiger, or maybe yes but almost at point black. The 85 mm of the t-34/85 can do it but at relatively close distance, when the 88 can kill it from afar.
The Centurion is superior to the Tiger I (not II), I'm not saying the opposite, but the Tiger I is perfectly able to destroy it if the centurion is 1 km or less away. The Early Centurion frontal armor is angled but it's even thinner than the Panther's one.
About german late war tank destroyers: a Jagdpanther, for example, has the latest version of the 88 mm AT gun, which is way better than the one on the Tiger I (it's the same gun of the tiger II). So it can kill a Centurion befere the British tank even see it.
About the 128 mm AT gun: it wasn't the best just on paper. Otto Carius (one of the many German tank aces) destroyed a Sherman (If I remember correctly) which was behind a house. The shell fucking penetrated the house and destroyed the Sherman.
The Russian 100mm and 122mm were also inferior to the latest 88mm, because it was a freaking speed shell
@@jinglejangle3287 Nope. The 76mm could knock out a Tiger from the front at 700m, the T-34-85 could also do the same at similar ranges. 500-1000m was considered standard tank engagements at the time.
As for the Centurion it certainly had more advantages than the Tiger did. As for being able to destroy a Centurion perfectly. No. Side armour yes it would but frontal? No. The Tiger I's 88 couldn't even penetrate the frontal armour of an M4 Sherman if the Sherman was angled at 30 degrees, although it could just hit the sides and that would do it. Head on it had no difficulty against the Sherman obviously.
And the Centurion was not inferior to the Tiger II, early ones maybe, but certainly not the later ones. But even the early ones could still knock out a Tiger II from the sides easily at long distances. The Tiger II World certainly be inferoior to Centurions armed with the Royal Ordinance 105mm L7 gun, it is considered of the best tank guns in history and certainly far superior to any WWII German tank gun. It was so good that even the Americans used it on their early Abrham tanks.
Also we really should not believe everything that a commander like Otto Carius says word for word, German tank commanders are known to exaggerate things or claim to achieve things without verification. They are the subject of Nazi Propaganda who like to exaggerate their claims, actions and kills further. So unless I am given evidence that this happened I do not believe for a second that he destroyed a Sherman behind a house with a Jadgtiger. If I am given evidence then I'll change my mind.
@@Frserthegreenengine about the 76 mm gun, yes I was wrong it was able to penetrate a Tiger I frontally but only if it used "special" shells, like the High-Velocity Armour-Piercing M93, which were present in very small numbers. Anyway, tank engagement on the western or Italy front were indeed on about 500/1000 meters, but on the eastern front tank engagements from 1500/2000 meters or more were not rare.
About the Centurion, a Tiger I could penetrate it frontally if close enough (obviously the Centurion can pen the Tiger from a greater distance). I consider this fact astonishing, in fact the Centurion was a brand new tank while the production of the Tiger I ceased in 1944. For the Tiger II, obviously it had no problem against the early version of the Centurion (which was the one supposed to fight in ww2) but it's a bit unfair comparing the Tiger II against cold war era Centurions with brand new guns, don't you think?
About Otto Carius, you can find everything you want about him in the book "Tigers in the mud". It's his diary from the war, which also has official documents at the end of the book. His experience is realistic, he fought from the start of operation Barbarossa as a loader in the pz. 38/t then as a commander in the Tiger I and finally, after a period in hospital being wounded while in recon out of the tank, he served as commander of a Jagdtiger, impenetrable from the front. He destroyed 150 tanks and maybe (not verified) a plane. He was a good soldier, he loved his country but he was not a nazi. After the war he worked as pharmacist.
Every second I think tigers has no chance, but I didn't expect that end
Awsome vid as always!
Would really love to see an invasion of Tokyo by british and french troops.
Keep up the good work👍
And American troops
@@g3tshotheett yeah forgot lol
Centurion vs King Tiger !
That's what i want to see !!
The Germans really got quality! 😀👌🏻😁👌🏻 I didn't expected the tiger would win!
British: YESS now we have strong tanks...let's hunt some Tigers
Hunting Result: 3 Tigers Survive....25 Cents out of actions😂
As Always....Epic Video👏👏👍👍
That engagement, in terms of money, probably cost the Germans far more than it cost the British.
Irl the Cents would have kicked the shit out of the Tigers from a LONG ways away with APDS, but it's Men of War and it's dumb with the ranges so it's all good.
Thanks for making this!
This would be cool 3 Sturmtiger vs 5 Centurions.
Wow, very interesting
On paper the Tiger was ahead in armour and power (according to your blue spec sheets)
Guns about the same
Did the Centurions have better shells or better fire control - I dont know
Guys this is Mark 1 centurion with 17 pounder, Mark 3 centurion are armed with 20 pounder it can pierce the tiger's frontal Armour easily, not to mention the Mark 5 centurion are armed with 105mm l7 cannon, even Tiger 2 are no match.
This was great. For next what about a U.S. tank destroyer battalion vs panzer division late 44/ early 45?
M36s, M18s and M10s vs Panzers, Panthers and Tigers
Could not help noticing that the tanks that skulked in the treelines survived better than those that put themselves in an open field! Also mistake to bunch up. I think the Tigers positioned better.
Did you download the new CHKL (I don't know the name) RobZ mod expansion
- bigger range
- tanks shoot up to 2000m
- rifles shoot up to 200m
I think he download some modder
And the Range, yes
Papa tiger is coming to kick ya'll asses. British tea boxes
XD
Except in real life it wouldn't do shit.
Tiger E1 (5.7-BR) Vs Centurion (7.0-BR)
I thought those are MK.3 Centurions,why Are you using the MK.1 Blueprint
Mk1 would be right for 1945.
TBH I think it might be the Centurion Mk 2 as it was the first variant to introduce that fully cast turret that we all know of.
@@woda_0 The gun looks like an early 20 pdr rather than the 17 pdr. Most photo's of the mk.2 have a muzzle brake, whereas the guns in the videa have a muzzle weight.
@@Akm72 It is a 17 pounder after all. The blueprint is incorrect in showing that the gun had a counterweight behind the muzzle brake. You will only see it on the towed 17 pdrs or on the Achilles tank destroyer, where it is needed to balance the weight of the gun breech, and also to stabilise the gun a bit.
Disappointed again. More German bias. *sigh*
@trueblueprussian 23 now there’s a question. What’s the difference between a normal laugh and a Prussian laugh? 😆
@@thetankcommander3838 That it's Prussian
Good, BUT HOLY FUCK IRL THIS IS EZ CENTURION WIN. The tigers seem to be immune from the sabot that has over twice as much penetration than the thickest part of armour on the tiger. Also, theoretically the tiger couldn’t penetrate the centurion anywhere unless they where using APCR, which of course is a sub-calibre round so it would struggle with the heavy sloping of the centurions armour. Also, according to my sources at least, the centurions mantlet is 152mm thick.
3:57 furry moment
Fury but ok
Pretty sure the centurions had a stabiliser so they could shoot on the move but like that would make any difference tho
It does have a stabilizer but they were advised not to shoot while moving it was not perfect stabilizer like modern tanks have is more closely related to the jumbos gyroscopic stabilizer made as a Fail-Safe if they needed to fire on the move
What game is this you guys are using for this? I did something similar with Steel Panthers II back in the day. Would set up a tourney that had the same equipment types and set them off against each other with the AI controlling both and watched. Entertaining.
*leaked footage of the last German panzer battalion in a last stand 1948*
They'd said centurion is the best tank. Is that true?
Given a centurion can fire and move it seems strange they choose to be largely stationary; that just seems inappropriate tactics for it.
Do I need more than the base game to replicate what this channel shows?
Most likely. Subscribring to RobZ Realism mod on workshop is probably the best you can do
@@warfare11gaming Thanks man.
I think I kinda formulated this badly, but I meant wheter I need the game DLC's.
What is this map, is it a part of Robz mod?
Custom map I made. Whenever RobZ will release a new patch to his mod, this map will be part of it, as MP map
Panzer 4 vs Sherman , please
3:57 такой же момент был в фильме "ярость"
Can you do leopard 2s vs tiger 2s next please
I'm pretty sure the L44 120mm APFSDS round will go right through a Tiger II and the 88mm KwK 44 will do jack shit against the composite armor of the Leopard 2
@@destroy8979
It wont even scratch the paint. The Tiger 2 is outmatched by a staggering margin.
@@youraveragescotsman7119 Thank you for reiterating what I said.
How get t72?
Overkill.
You could've put me there instead of those tiger 1
30 jangpanther vs 30 centureon
The Königstiger/ King tiger would have been a better nemesis
i read a good book, alternative history where the Second world war ended in 1943, Germany in control of Europe not Britain, they invade Britiain in the 1950s they have a tank battle centurians vs Panthers and Tigers
What a crock of shit. No sloped armour on the Tiger
I'm curious who will win if Tiger 2 and Centurion MK 3 compete.
Request 100 king tiger vs 20 T 14 Armata plz.
Germany let’s build tiger tank and nothing will stop us.
Allies let’s build ground attack aircraft by the thousands and the tigers became target practice.
Are these tiger 1s or tiger 1 E?
Also as this is 1945 are the Tigers even moving?
the last centurion must be made out of titanium
Tiger vs. T-62.
This battle would never have happened in reality but cool concept
Your videos are biased towards Germany. In your videos Tigers can even defeat M1A2 sepV3.
He made a vid about 100 maus vs 1 abrams
And abrams win
Juat sayin'
But yeah, its biased
YES TIGER
Which software you use for making these type of videos
Game, Men of War Assault Squad 2
why tigers win? these are 20prs mk3，not 17prs mk1
... it never happened ... the Cent arrived 6 months after hostilities ended
3:57 awkward moment.
What game is this
Theo Atomic Tank vs Tiger 2
88мм не пробивает центурион?))))))
1:33 but the centurions used in the vids arent mk 1s
Yes apologize, they were still mean to be Mk 1, but the model wasn't correct due to not correct model available that particular moment
Nice video but real life is different than games. Many of these tiger 1s would of been broken down before they got to battle that's aproven fact the British would of had good airpower making many of the nazi s tanks go into hide both sides would have used artillery and infantry but I do like your video anyway s.🇬🇧💥💥💥💥
Wasn't the centurion use in the first Iraq war?
No. That would be the challenger 2.
Да вы меня удивили. Я думал, что центурионы победят 1:3. "Всё советское говно, все европейское лучшее" - девиз производителей игр.
Please do a warship battle
I doubt the result!
What is this map?
Custom map, made by myself
@@warfare11gaming Can I download this map at any site?
Centurion tracks are on backward
Centurion vs T-62 Yom Kippur war
Hanz did we win? Me idk
Hanz: "We've won... But at what cost?"
Talk about one sided, the tiger is a out of date tank with no mobility, , against a centurion with a stabllised gun , so this tank would not have sat still and moved around the battle field ,the tiger would have been decimated due to the fact the centurion would have had better fire control not to mention, sabo rounds that would have easily have knocked out a tiger i think the person doing this battle is most certainly a tiger lover !
100% what I expected
Excellent
Epic tank battle! Lol I would expect nothing less, your an amazing editor and vid creator keep up the great work bromigo!👍👍👍 lol and perhaps check out some of the request I've made as I believe they'd make equally epic vids😁
The tigers are in hull down and ambush positions. The Centurions, with longer range and IR sites, are being forced by this scenario to sit in the open, bunched up and virtually at point blank range. Was this designed to be even semi accurate?
Ir sights on centurion MK1? I think not.
It’s an ambush scenario cry about it
@@germanfisch Wehraboo
The centurions would not have fought like that. They would use their greater speed and manoeuvrability and faster turning turrets. This is bullshit
@TheAtomicA can explain to me why you call him a weeb please tell me
The Centurion could fire accurately on the move, while the Tiger couldn't. That's a big plus.
Of course they could fire on the move.
They had no gun stabilisation however so hitting something would be unlikely.
@@tedwarden5803 Yes, I agree, I omitted the word "accurately". I will remedy that error now. Thank you.
@@Dragonblaster1 👍
I mean even if it was accurate i believe the penetration was lower and i could be wromg imma search it up after this but even so if it does hit there's a high chance it bounces? I'm no tank expert i'm just saying what is on my mind
No bully me ples
@@X_Cuze_Tf_outta_me. I think the tiger two
used a little slopped armour but the rest were just flat plate.
Toward the end of WW2 AP had moved on.
The Tiger was seen as a spearhead heavy tank not a main battle tank.
Armour is an offensive weapon a good one but in defence it’s useless. In attack it’s useless without its support. Just see what trained infantry can do to armour that doesn’t have its own back up.
Meanwhile in War Thunder, half of the team of Tigers are killed by an APDS rounds to its turret and hull by a long range shot Cents.
I killed a tiger 2 with a puma lol it was so funny lol but the worst thing that i killed the crew not for ammo explotion or something like that
@@elfraca_06897 how the puma is german
@@helenward4342 its war thunder :/
@@helenward4342 it still was kinda difficult, i started shooting him for 1 minutes and finally managed to find his weak spot, so i started shooting its ammo, and it was turning slowly to red lol
Gaijin doesn't like axis victories.
Imagine a:
Roman Centurion vs Real Tiger.
Knowing gladiator battles of old, that is pretty much possible
As an ex figure wargamer this makes me want to give it a go!
But I had to laugh when every British tanker bailed out they pulled out a pistol.
I think the natural reaction would be to run like hell for cover
Korumorimine verses hand picked University team.
Kumoromine vs All star univ
1/3 rd would break down or get blown up by Thunderbolts or Typhoons. 2/3 rds would be low on gas then be attacked by Lightnings or Beaufighters. Dont think the Germans fielded that many all at once. Usually a mixed bag with Panthers , PZ 4s and Sturmgeshutz was but 25 fully op Tigers would have been a miracle.
It would be a miracle, as long as there are no allied fighter bombers.
And the Centurion came after the 2nd short after but still after
@@kevinbabu8919 Forget the allies, it would be a miracle if they all got drove more than 1 mile without a transmission issue or being diverted to one of mustache man’s plans, lol
Why was the MK 1 chosen? Very very few were produced and they were actually replaced on the production line by the MK2's which had better armour. The video game shows nothing more than standing in a line and slogging it out with Brits in open fields and Germans behind bush/tree lines. What happened to tactics, manoeuvre, and battlefield co-ordination? Pretty poor really.
Exactly and any force it seems that challenges the Germans in this simulation makes all the mistakes while the Germans do not. So unrealistic.
@@johnsaia9739 It just a simulation
@@ck-rs2qy *game
Chill out game tanker.
Tiger rulls
LMAO with the timing at 3:17. As soon as he popped out he exploded into pieces.
Very surprising outcome, crazy how well matched they are
Or how terribly coded it is as a simulation. The Centurion APDS round is nearly twice as fast as an 88mm round. Most of those hits to the Centurions looked frontal, based on the actual armour the front hull should always bounce an 88mm round and the turret would need the APCR round close range and a bit of favourable positioning.
Centurion was sooo close to be sent in Europe
Game name
@Sovětský svaz ni mil rhy plzzzzzz
They were actually deployed to Europe in April 1945 just before war ends ...9 were despatched and landed in Belgium but never saw action ....
When Father laughs at Grandpa's skill in warzone : 4:35
Father reaction : 4:47
What the hell is that sh*t
25centurion vs 25t55 plz