朗朗的土耳其進行曲好聽太多了。改良版不耐聽，新奇感很快逝去，大量不和諧的改編只是彈者得意陶醉，我聽得燥累。能表達作者抗辯的一兩個不和諧音组是畫龍點睛（Mozart k304 part one )，令人回味贊妙。我更喜歡音色美，技巧純為更好表達情感的演奏。朗朗感情，音色，速度皆完美，設了目標。古典音樂歷久不衰基於音樂家，音樂老師，學生的努力，聽眾的喜愛和捧場。
To mochila: Oh, please! You really think Mozart would've plowed his way through this march in such a vulgar, cheap fashion? From all accounts, he indeed meant to 'please' his audiences, but in a dignified, professional way. Here, on the other hand, we have Lang Lang who's determined, no matter what, to wow, to "slay" his viewers. Go ahead and be titilated by his prankish delivery, but try to keep in mind that this madcap tempo is in opposition to what the composer indicated in the score. One more thing: The constant (and boy, do I mean constant!) smiling is something that so many find [choke] endearing, and others find uniquely revolting. Just because this piano player has established himself as one of the happiest people on earth, must he show it for every minute he's sitting on the piano bench? All right, Lang fans - - I'll wait for the usual hate-mail to come my way, but try to be as gentle as you can, okay?
Since I don’t speak the language that the comments are written in (English only), I don’t know if they were positive or negative ones, and which of the two pianists people preferred. But as a classical pianist myself for more than 1/2 century, my vote is definitely for Lang Lang’s 🎹 rendition by far, and for multiple reasons! If I thought anyone would understand me, I would explain WHY I feel this is true. *** To edit this original comment less than a week later, I thank all of you who for replied, and let me know that I was helpful with your understanding of this piece - even if only just as a music ‘lover’, and not a 🎹ist yourself. I really do appreciate it! I’m so glad that I could shed some light on its meaning, and styles of each ones playing - even with a language barrier of sorts!
I agree with you. There are about half of the coments preferred Lang Lang’s rendition by far. Actually, the question I asked in title is which 🎹 rendition closer to Mozart. I'm only a music lover. That'll be appreciated very much if you would like give me your professional explanation.
@@april9082 To answer your question, and the other person (Su ?) who asked me about it, and for the same answer about 8 hours ago (under your comment)… I believe it’s the female 🎹ist who’s performance of the Turkish March is more the way in which it was intended to be played - based strictly on playing the notes. She plays them as they were initially written, and does it well imo. BUT Lang Lang’s rendition gives it more ‘flair’ and expression with his style. IF I had to guess the one that Mozart (that’s if he could hear them both) would have liked best, it would be the latter. This is bc of the way he ‘improvised’, thereby making it the ‘fun’, light piece that it was meant to be (from a technical difficulty standpoint, they were both similar). This was not written as, or intended to be, a ‘true’ classical piece - although it was placed in this musical style and genre. I’m guessing the reason why is that he was known as being strictly a classical musician and composer. When you watch and compare the two styles, she appears to be very serious and concentrating on the notes, speed, etc., but w/o clearly visible emotion. On the other hand, Lang Lang (by way of his facial expressions - at times even laughing a little - and other gestures) exemplifies that it’s a lighthearted and rather ‘amusing’ Turkish‘March - as I truly believe was the intent for it to be by Mozart. *** I’m not sure where I read it, but there was an article on the origin of music styles and their history, including this type (and possibly this piece was mentioned too) and how they began, and why. It explained how various cultures and traditions played a large part in the styles of music that represented each of many countries dating back to when the pieces were originally composed. ⭐️ The reason WHY I personally prefer Lang Lang’s versions of all his other performances in general compared with other 🎹ist’s is not only bc of his superior technical skills. It’s also this, and the manner in which he’s able to combine them with both, thereby making a piece his ‘own’ with his unique interpretations, and taking the liberty to improvise - within reason, yet not removing or deviating so much as to take away from the ‘classical’ style of whatever the piece is. (Even some ‘covers’ of songs he’s performed in concerts have been great - ie. Metallica, Sting - to name a couple!) I hope this helps answer the question you both asked me to explain? If not, please lmk and I’ll try again (lol)! 🫠
Thanks a lot for your detail explanation. I knew that I enjoyed Lang Lang's rendition more before. For now, I learned that why I was pleased by his 🎹rendition - that's because of the different culture and composer's original intent reflected in his musical style.@@elainemeyer5062
@@april9082 Thanks April, I’m glad you found my explanation helpful! I wasn’t sure if I was able to put into the correct words what I meant, and the reasons for the difference between the two 🎹ist’s interpretation of the exact same ‘classical’ piece. * I put the word classical in quotes bc it wasn’t intended to be one when it was composed/written by Mozart. It was really a result of his ‘humor’ that was the inspiration and the end result for it! As I had already written (in a way), Lang Lang picks up on this with his interpretation, while the female pianist doesn’t quite understand, or take notice, of the original meaning/style of this particular composition, and thus plays it as a purely ‘classical’ piece bc it was composed by Mozart. * I won’t say that she doesn’t play it well technically, but my own impression is it didn’t sound nearly as interesting as Lang Lang’s. I hope this gives you both even a little bit more helpful info 🤔 !? Always enjoy helping people with music - esp. 🎹!
Wow ! Thank you for sharing these two pianists playing the same piece of music side by side so that we can "compare" with our ears ! I must say that I'm not a musician but I thought that I heard two differences - Lan Lan's fingers on the piano keys are "lighter" almost "velvety" and I thought that Lan lan's playing showed the overall melody "sounding better". Just my non-musical ears 2 cents. Comments ?
I have long admired Yuja Wang's performance of the Arcady Volodos rhapsody on Mozart's Turkish Rondo (pretty much a recomposition of the piece) and disliked Lang Lang's mugging while playing. And when listening again to Wang just now, I assumed she could not be topped. But lo and behold, Lang's playing of the Mozart exactly as he wrote it (except for the liberty of a very slight ritard towards the end) was utterly brilliant, and what I had previously called "mugging" was simply his youthful delight in Mozart's genius and humor. So his is the performance I treasure in this comparison-although I would still travel farther to attend an actual concert by Wang.
I’ve previously written a comment on this video, but just saw yours. I was glad to see that someone else is writing them in English too, but mainly bc of your change in thoughts on Lang Lang. He played this ‘March’ as it was intended to be by Mozart - a light, fun, and ‘humerus’ piece. However, I would travel anywhere to see LL (vs Yuja Wang) perform at a live concert as opposed to you! Musicians, just like everything else, is a matter of personal taste - this is just my own. 😉
@@elainemeyer5062 Yes, I read your original comment, which is what inspired mine. If I went to hear LL, I would need to keep my eyes closed; while he may not intend them that way, his gestures and facial expressions look awfully like showboating. YW is absolutely his equal as a virtuoso (?virtuosa?), but I have always felt her to be a totally dedicated musician. Thanks for responding!
@@brunyate 😊 I understand what you meant about some of his facial expressions, and bc of it wanting to keep your eyes closed if you saw LL live. I don’t intend for this to change your mind, BUT personally, I think it’s just his own way of expressing himself, being able to ‘feel’, and to become ‘one’ with the piece he’s playing. (I don’t know if you’re familiar with Lola A., or ever watched a video of her play the 🎹, but I’d have to do exactly the same myself, while the majority of men would feel completely different and ogle her due to her physical presentation. She plays with stiletto shoes 👠 , very tight dresses, and has extremely long legs 🦵! * I used Lola as an example, however I don’t feel that she is talented enough to even listen, let alone see, her play. There are many who have the opposite opinion of her than I do.)
@@elainemeyer5062 I am of course a man (though an elderly one), and can't deny that YW's personal appearance is a factor! But I'm also a professional musician. I was actually amazed to find that LL played the Turkish Rondo absolutely straight (though about half as fast again as I can); from what he does with, say, Liszt, I would have assumed he would ham it up. I have actually been at one of his concerts, years ago when he was hardly well known. I was impressed then, and am impressed again now. But too many intervening videos made me change my opinion in between. But I will listen with closed eyes in the future, and perhaps my good impression can remain. Let's leave it at that, shall we?
@@brunyate Absolutely 👍 ! BTW, I too was a classical pianist - and organist (since I was 5 and I’m now almost 70), and have a tendency to be extremely ‘picky’ about pianists and even other musicians as well. I like to see their hands and fingers up close when I watch them play - either in person or on a video. I guess it’s the same for you being a professional, and maybe we each look at a performance in a different way and like or dislike it for our own reasons. Happy listening!
Even though one can’t compare the 2 versions of the same piece, but hands down to Yuja because her ability to modify the piece to such high degree of difficulties and complexity. Of course she can play the classical version equal to or better than Langlang, all I hear here is a race car driver and I was never a fan of him anyways! He has talent, so are a lot of other distinguished concert pianist!
It’s amusing in a sense that I have the opposite opinion about the two of them. I prefer Lang Lang’s version to Yuja’s by far! Not only with this one, but in general when I hear them both playing the same classical 🎹 pieces. I can feel much more ‘emotion’ in his, and that I don’t in her. To me, she sounds rather ‘dull’, and although she’s talented technically, she doesn’t come across as being able to make this sound like the ‘fun’ piece that Mozart wrote, and intended it to be. But you’re right about not ‘comparing’ (to a degree) musicians, as each person has their own opinion and preferences. But this is mine!
@@elainemeyer5062I agree with you, although I am a fan of Yujia, however for this piece I prefer Langlang more than Yujia as I could felt more joy in it.
I am a big fan of Yuja. I think the two pieces are not comparable as Yuja is not playing the original version. I play piano and I like Yuja’s version better.
As a piano learner, I would prefer Lang Lang's performance. Firstly, In the techical aspect, Yu Jia stands out. She could still keep the melody clean and precise when quickly processing a lot of apregios. However, in terms of musicality, Lang Lang clearly wins. His performance is full of various dynamics but at the same time, keeping the melody smooth. However, although Yu Jia's performance shows a high level of skill complexity, she lacks control on the tempo and the atmosphere of the piece. Finally, in terms of completion, Lang Lang is definitely better. Yu Jia failed to keep the piece as a whole and has only succeeded on showing off her so-called splendid skills
👍I already wrote more than one comment about this video and my preference for LL’s overall treatment of it. What you explained is how I feel when comparing the two versions, and why. Both of them having studied with the same person, the main difference is in how they each ‘interpret’ and play so differently as far as their ‘expressiveness’ and emotion (or lack there of!) * I’m not referring to the technical aspects or level of difficulty - she’s very good in this respect, but…
我想大家都很明白，今天其實不是王羽佳 VS 朗朗，而是王羽佳 VS 莫札特。 再高超的技巧，在音樂神童面前還是得俯首稱臣。套一句Salieri 的話 “Displace one note and there would be diminishment. Displace one phrase and the structure would fall” 這場是莫札特贏了。但雖敗猶榮
your ears hears when the girl is playing and when lang lang plays your whole body and sole are listening. This is the best way I can explain their play. Of course I love them both!!!
听王羽佳，感觉她自己很快乐。听朗朗，我很快乐！
说得很有道理。实际上就是这样的。
真的
聽你評論我很不高興
@@阿斌-j4k 那这样不好，您好好地开心地听曲就行。
@cvgnn gjij 你的文字是什麼鬼？
我喜歡朗朗
兩人的風格本質上不同, 個人覺得無需比較, 都是讓人感恩有幸能聽其優美音樂表現的存在!
朗朗聽起來耳朵比較舒服，當然自己有自己的版本和演譯都是可以的，但純粹就耳朵和音樂聽起來的感受，更喜歡朗朗，乾淨、清楚、俐落
朗朗层次感十足，抑扬顿挫 情感丰富。音乐应该是这样。美妙绝伦
朗朗的土耳其進行曲好聽太多了。改良版不耐聽，新奇感很快逝去，大量不和諧的改編只是彈者得意陶醉，我聽得燥累。能表達作者抗辯的一兩個不和諧音组是畫龍點睛（Mozart k304 part one )，令人回味贊妙。我更喜歡音色美，技巧純為更好表達情感的演奏。朗朗感情，音色，速度皆完美，設了目標。古典音樂歷久不衰基於音樂家，音樂老師，學生的努力，聽眾的喜愛和捧場。
朗朗就是太丑了，但凡换长脸
朗朗这版也不是原版，速度比莫扎特的快了一倍的感觉。没有莫扎特时代的优雅，只是快。
我相信弹过土耳其这首曲子的业余弹手就知道朗朗弹成这样有多厉害了，每个音的辨识度都那么高，旋律变化特别有新意和连续性，朗朗甚至看起来还那么轻松还有更好更快的空间
朗朗看起来太做作！
@@jeremiejia3793 音樂是用來看的嗎 傻逼😹
@@ohk3963 2B
@@ohk3963 CNMB CNQJ
朗朗的钢琴曲只能闭着眼睛听。听唱片没问题，但如果去听音乐会，看视频，总不可能一直闭着眼睛吧。
被音乐感动到随着音乐舞动，这是应该的，但从头到尾，无论当下音乐的表情如何，始终手舞足蹈，这就过了。
郎朗的土耳其進行曲讓人感覺就像是一隻快樂的小鳥在天際翱翔飛舞著，無論是彈奏者亦或是聽者身心靈暢快淋漓。
❤
很明显朗朗版更莫扎特,顺耳，哪儿哪儿听着都完美，以前觉得他表情太夸张，今天觉得恰到好处，音乐配上表情，棒！帅！
王羽佳對於曲子的藝術層次有自己的見解，非常優秀。
試圖賦予更多色彩的作法是很困難的，但表現的很穩定，兩個都非常優秀。
所以王羽佳是钢琴家。而LL只是个弹琴师
@@aa-vl4pg你说反了吧？
可惜改编的不好听
@@JulieYuWei-pr6qf 錄音問題, 另一個版本很好聽
朗朗非常善于抑扬顿挫轻重缓急，神乎其技
王的弹奏让人感到的确听到了很出色的钢琴演奏，而朗朗一开弹竟似心中一动，联想到清凉晶莹的山泉水珠滴落又弹跳飞溅，音色饱满透亮利落流畅，节奏力度掌控轻松稳健富有弹性。以前觉得他的形体动作和表情过于夸张，现在要说：大师好棒！
现在表情形体都收敛了不少
一個是彈原版的，一個是彈改編炫技版的，沒什麼好吵的，如果王彈原版的話，那跟朗相比可能就有看頭了，不過王改編炫技版的真的是有夠誇張的，一堆琶音，加上尾段左手原曲右手無限音節琶音，看她手臂肌肉就知道一定是刻苦練出來的神臂。整體以兩者演奏技巧，各有千秋，兩位大師級人物就是天生生下來要來彈鋼琴的。
一個在弹，一個在耍，
朗朗的速度比原版快太多了。
@@yanaya713雖然朗朗速度比較快，但王的是變奏版，難度更高，所以才會彈慢，後面那個變奏的時候也很快呀😅😅。
一個是演繹原版的味道，一個是演繹變奏版的味道，所以兩個無法比較，各有各的風格。
@@yanaya713 以難度王的真的比較高
朗朗的好聽多了。
兩位都很棒，但是朗朗的可能旋律比較貼近我們常聽到的版本，所以比較順耳，但是多聽幾遍後，覺得王思羽表現出群蜂飛舞的感覺更多元，有歡快嬉戲的、有忙碌工作的、好像也有防衛禦敵的。二位都太優秀了，不愧是國際水平。
郎朗，不是朗朗
王羽佳！有层次有感情有情绪有内容。不是钢琴机器人。
郎朗的一直讓我很不順耳.. 樂句處理匠氣偏重，也飛不太起來
军队以整齐而闻名 而王弹的是一群马蜂 要不改名算了 不是改编就好。
郎郎是莫扎特原版，簡單的程度。王羽佳的改編版加入許多複雜高難度琴藝技術的表現，表現她傑出、驚人的鋼琴演奏水平
郎朗
王羽佳改的讓人聽了非常不適
@@stej0723 曲風不同，有些特異，但技術性超高水準
內行人😊
赞同。👍王羽佳她心里有音乐啊
我更喜欢郎朗，他的节奏比王快，但清晰利落，更能反应作品的本意。
兩人鋼琴水平都很高,但作為聽眾 我聽朗朗版本感覺比較快樂。王羽佳聽起來只會讓我感覺她很厲害而已
是这样的感觉，看王就一直置身事外，就感觉哇她技巧好强她好厉害，而听郎朗就会置身其中，被音乐感染，有时候听到鸡皮疙瘩都起来的程度
我觉得弹得好听比弹得利害更值得买票听
弹得厲害好像在打架(在作拳脚功夫)
悦耳最重要。
群蜂乱舞
2位都是很優秀的鋼琴家❤️❤️
郎朗彈得👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Both had the same teacher, a tutor, technically perfect, both and even without each one with their own identity and personality.
郎朗那个简直是神了.
一樣是鐘或是土耳其進行曲，每個音樂家演奏出來的風格都不一樣，
音樂是藝術，藝術並不是指技巧上的強弱，而是讓人發自內心由衷的讚嘆並且是流連忘返的一再回味、探討其中（共情）。
王的演奏技巧沒話說，改編的土耳其進行曲也有無限的想像空間，但我在她的想像空間沒有太多共情的部份，可能會覺得..原來可以這樣的表現，然後..嗯嗯沒了
朗朗的演奏會讓人覺得他想傳遞的風格，非常霸道卻又覺得直率有趣，我是門外漢但我卻能聽得出現場演奏難能可貴的一點小瑕疵（我個人認為），他連這樣的小瑕疵都不屑去修飾（3：42），這樣的不完美在個人看來才是完美！
最後一個音符，我不禁發笑（有人跟我一樣？）
很多人讨厌朗朗是因为他浮夸的表情！其实大可不必。。抛开这些认真听的话我觉得朗朗是最牛的！
他何止表情浮夸，整个人都浮夸，妥妥的东北暴发户
門外漢
黃羽佳聽到我要快轉， 她的演繹太沉重， 一個字悶
朗朗聽到我要去返佢嗰段再聽多幾次， 佢控制琴鍵嘅大細聲並配合整首歌的起伏波浪， 實在太好喇， 令聽眾遊走於不同的快樂層次❤
說的很對！好沈重的進行曲
自己improvise就悶，跟譜彈就唔悶？我唔係話邊個彈得差邊個彈得好，你講嗰啲嘢求其一個上得台表演嘅鋼琴家都做到，根本講完冇講過，王羽佳improvise 之餘冇離到題，我唔知邊到悶親你。
王羽佳一個人彈出來三台琴的效果，太厲害了❤
Whenever he plays this, I can't help but think that he is the reincarnation of Mozart.
To mochila: Oh, please! You really think Mozart would've plowed his way through this march in such a vulgar, cheap fashion? From all accounts, he indeed meant to 'please' his audiences, but in a dignified, professional way. Here, on the other hand, we have Lang Lang who's determined, no matter what, to wow, to "slay" his viewers. Go ahead and be titilated by his prankish delivery, but try to keep in mind that this madcap tempo is in opposition to what the composer indicated in the score.
One more thing: The constant (and boy, do I mean constant!) smiling is something that so many find [choke] endearing, and others find uniquely revolting. Just because this piano player has established himself as one of the happiest people on earth, must he show it for every minute he's sitting on the piano bench?
All right, Lang fans - - I'll wait for the usual hate-mail to come my way, but try to be as gentle as you can, okay?
王羽佳的版本彷彿兩個人四手聯彈。只有她才能達到
I am very happy when i am listening lang lang 's turki march. Lang lang, beautiful performance. Vivian
这个王羽佳我是喜欢不起来 感觉就是快！没什么感情。个人喜好朗朗
同意🙆
同意！
王羽佳演奏的是她自己编改的作品，全称为莫扎特，爵士，沃罗多斯，王羽佳土耳其进行曲，简称王羽佳土耳其进行曲。其中沃罗多斯部分难度极高，其本人也达不到王羽佳的速度与流畅度。
拜託 不是她 改編的好嗎
Transcript written by Arcadi Volodos
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相对于完全版，视频已有所删减·。请仔细听。
@@xukinei4323 one by Volodos one by Fasil Say
兩倍速依舊清晰、乾淨、輕巧…，什麼境界…
作为业余的旁观者，我投票给朗朗。两个理由：一是朗朗的演奏中旋律更加清楚，二是他更加放松和游刃有余。
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其實兩者不可比較
不同版本
@@LemonloctzYT 我不是专业的，可以说下吗？听起来是一个曲子啊，长度也几乎一样
@@jackc3119 yuja所演奏的版本難度近乎不可思議，是改編自volodos改編的turkish march
郎朗的指艺清晰度更强，有快乐幸福感！
Agree
同意！更加轻快舒适！
两首完全不同难度的曲子...演绎方式和难度都完全不同......不知道能比个什么.....
@@ccc1703 聽了舒適感不同
朗朗指力控制真好 每個音符都清晰 尤其是彈跳音之有力卻輕快
本想两者不会差太多。但听了王的让我心脏很不舒服！听完朗朗的演奏让我感觉非常非常心旷神怡！很兴奋！我自己都奇怪有这样不同的感受！
那你千万别听爵士乐，可能会进icu
You are crazy, yuja expresses emotions. Lan is a robot
羽佳的演奏一贯是情绪宣泄凤凰飞空，爱把自己的感情融入作品并与之共舞。朗朗是循规蹈矩一板一眼顺从原著照本宣读，容易使士绅贵妇喜欢。一个是少年即在开放多变的西方生活和专业学习，一个是传统保守的中国苦练成长。而现代对艺术发展进步的论述之一是“环境”，包括地理气候人文社会等等，这也侧面体现了他们形成不同风格的原因之一。就我个人而言，比较喜欢王羽佳的演奏，它体现了“与时俱进”的当代。🎉
尬吹 很尬
@@randyekrer431 ???不懂
@@lishengwu4230我可能冤枉你了. 但是“朗朗是循规蹈矩一板一眼顺从原著照本宣读” 这句我是绝对没法认同的. 钢琴演奏我只能说略懂, 但是我认为这句话, “循规蹈矩一板一眼顺从原著照本宣读” 对任何专业钢琴家都是带有侮辱色彩的. 所有谱子能记录的信息都是非常有限的, 而钢琴家们花费几十年时间学习 然后通过自己的专业知识和见识去理解 去演绎弹奏那写记录下来的音符, 用自己的乐理知识去改进, 弹出自己的味道, 怎么都和循规蹈矩扯不上关系. 仅仅靠乐谱, 一个钢琴家最多能弹50分. 剩下的我姑且称他为‘艺术’. 不论朗朗还是其他世界级钢琴家, 各个都有自己对于弹奏独特的见解. 没有一个人能够通过’循规蹈矩‘达到世界级钢琴水平.
本來先聽王羽佳彈的覺得很不錯後面一聽到朗朗彈的更喜歡😍朗朗而且忍不住想要一聽再聽，心情也突然變得很開心🥳
艺术是主观的。郎朗版当然是耳熟能详，本身也不是难曲，中规中矩无意外无惊喜。羽佳版令人惊艳！遍尝全球各地美食就会懂得欣赏每一种不同的味道，多元化欣赏音乐🎵更能享受到不同风格的精妙。羽佳版非常厉害，我很喜欢！不仅仅是炫技之说，其音乐性给我打大惊喜，非常享受，层次丰富又粒粒分明，酣畅淋漓，意犹未尽，再说一次我好喜欢❤！妙人妙曲❤，感谢🙏
彈過著曲子就知道王羽佳是在演繹，而且還不錯，有些炫技，朗朗則是中規中矩
炫技改编一下就可以随便弹错，听着不舒服。
羽佳談的90%炫技@@asitecn
一個是在玩，一個是規規矩矩彈，這要怎麼比呢？兩位都是大師級，也都很愛獻技，不過兩位在彈奏拉赫曼尼諾夫2號鋼琴協奏曲時，我認為是不相上下的，這曲子我很熟，不過王羽佳勝在拿到葛萊美獎，有史以來最偉大鋼琴家50 人她在列而郎朗沒有。
也許 因為她是女性。
王她這麼紅火，主要還是 這世界甚少出一個 頂級女鋼琴家，上一個傳奇女鋼琴家 瑪塔·阿格麗希 現在都已經很老了，人家那天要歸隱潛修，不出世了，也不收徒，從此閒雲野鶴，自由自在。這古典音樂世界 一直以來都是 一票男大師們，更需要一個 女大師，...。
更糟糕的是，至今都沒有一個 女鋼琴家，在 "聲望地位上" 可以接替 阿格麗希 的位置，這古典音樂世界無論如何，必須有一個 女鋼琴家 來坐鎮，跟 男鋼琴家們 相抗衡，做到 名義上的 男女平等，弘揚 "男人做得到，女人同樣可以" 的精神，為了 各種國際鋼琴大賽，評審 能 "公正公平"。恰逢其時，王 這位頂級女鋼琴家 騰空出世。....
有比較！朗朗輕鬆自然悦耳，技巧高些
俩人演技都很高 但似乎朗朗的更莫扎特 听上去更舒服。
王羽佳難怪是年青人！不守規範！像極了在古典樂曲中加上rock！爵士！超好聽！
Since I don’t speak the language that the comments are written in (English only), I don’t know if they were positive or negative ones, and which of the two pianists people preferred. But as a classical pianist myself for more than 1/2 century, my vote is definitely for Lang Lang’s 🎹 rendition by far, and for multiple reasons! If I thought anyone would understand me, I would explain WHY I feel this is true. *** To edit this original comment less than a week later, I thank all of you who for replied, and let me know that I was helpful with your understanding of this piece - even if only just as a music ‘lover’, and not a 🎹ist yourself. I really do appreciate it! I’m so glad that I could shed some light on its meaning, and styles of each ones playing - even with a language barrier of sorts!
I agree with you. There are about half of the coments preferred Lang Lang’s rendition by far. Actually, the question I asked in title is which 🎹 rendition closer to Mozart. I'm only a music lover. That'll be appreciated very much if you would like give me your professional explanation.
Yeah just tell us as I know many ppl here are multilingual
@@april9082 To answer your question, and the other person (Su ?) who asked me about it, and for the same answer about 8 hours ago (under your comment)… I believe it’s the female 🎹ist who’s performance of the Turkish March is more the way in which it was intended to be played - based strictly on playing the notes. She plays them as they were initially written, and does it well imo. BUT Lang Lang’s rendition gives it more ‘flair’ and expression with his style. IF I had to guess the one that Mozart (that’s if he could hear them both) would have liked best, it would be the latter. This is bc of the way he ‘improvised’, thereby making it the ‘fun’, light piece that it was meant to be (from a technical difficulty standpoint, they were both similar). This was not written as, or intended to be, a ‘true’ classical piece - although it was placed in this musical style and genre. I’m guessing the reason why is that he was known as being strictly a classical musician and composer. When you watch and compare the two styles, she appears to be very serious and concentrating on the notes, speed, etc., but w/o clearly visible emotion. On the other hand, Lang Lang (by way of his facial expressions - at times even laughing a little - and other gestures) exemplifies that it’s a lighthearted and rather ‘amusing’ Turkish‘March - as I truly believe was the intent for it to be by Mozart. *** I’m not sure where I read it, but there was an article on the origin of music styles and their history, including this type (and possibly this piece was mentioned too) and how they began, and why. It explained how various cultures and traditions played a large part in the styles of music that represented each of many countries dating back to when the pieces were originally composed. ⭐️ The reason WHY I personally prefer Lang Lang’s versions of all his other performances in general compared with other 🎹ist’s is not only bc of his superior technical skills. It’s also this, and the manner in which he’s able to combine them with both, thereby making a piece his ‘own’ with his unique interpretations, and taking the liberty to improvise - within reason, yet not removing or deviating so much as to take away from the ‘classical’ style of whatever the piece is. (Even some ‘covers’ of songs he’s performed in concerts have been great - ie. Metallica, Sting - to name a couple!) I hope this helps answer the question you both asked me to explain? If not, please lmk and I’ll try again (lol)! 🫠
Thanks a lot for your detail explanation. I knew that I enjoyed Lang Lang's rendition more before. For now, I learned that why I was pleased by his 🎹rendition - that's because of the different culture and composer's original intent reflected in his musical style.@@elainemeyer5062
@@april9082 Thanks April, I’m glad you found my explanation helpful! I wasn’t sure if I was able to put into the correct words what I meant, and the reasons for the difference between the two 🎹ist’s interpretation of the exact same ‘classical’ piece. * I put the word classical in quotes bc it wasn’t intended to be one when it was composed/written by Mozart. It was really a result of his ‘humor’ that was the inspiration and the end result for it! As I had already written (in a way), Lang Lang picks up on this with his interpretation, while the female pianist doesn’t quite understand, or take notice, of the original meaning/style of this particular composition, and thus plays it as a purely ‘classical’ piece bc it was composed by Mozart. * I won’t say that she doesn’t play it well technically, but my own impression is it didn’t sound nearly as interesting as Lang Lang’s. I hope this gives you both even a little bit more helpful info 🤔 !? Always enjoy helping people with music - esp. 🎹!
音樂性 朗朗非常愉悅 一致性 協調一流. 炫技性 王羽佳吝人耳目一新, 熱鬧繽紛.
朗朗 快得很平穩(真的很快), 王羽佳 敢衝 繽紛 神技.
都非常難彈, 都是神人.
我個人比較喜歡協調一致, 所以 喜歡 朗朗 全段, 與王羽佳 前段(後段有一點太 over 了).
💙🤍❤ Bonjour de la France!
merci pour cette magnifique marche turque 💙🤍❤
兩人詮釋不同~各有優點！
朗朗表演成分有點多，但卻是每個音都很清晰，大師水準.
真知灼见
我喜歡朗朗彈的，自然流暢，有感情，聽得很舒服，他是很優秀的，至於王羽佳，聽得很辛苦
朗朗輕快但又柔軟，王羽佳硬邦邦的沒感情感覺是硬彈的
她弹琴的手指头用力都不对啊😢完全没有力气。情感也没有从指尖传达到钢琴上
@@briannasu3001 她只在表演速度
郎朗名不虚传。如果用演讲来比喻，这篇演讲，抑扬顿挫，扣人心弦，给人留下极深的印象。相比之下，羽佳的演奏平淡了一些。
@Guan
你有聽過現場嘛?
Wow ! Thank you for sharing these two pianists playing the same piece of music side by side so that we can "compare" with our ears ! I must say that I'm not a musician but I thought that I heard two differences - Lan Lan's fingers on the piano keys are "lighter" almost "velvety" and I thought that Lan lan's playing showed the overall melody "sounding better". Just my non-musical ears 2 cents. Comments ?
I very much like Lang Lang's version of this Mozart's Turkish March.
个人比较喜欢王羽佳的版本， 非常有创新，特别，有趣，加了少许爵士的激情， 赞
我是外行，这是一场强强对决的表演，王羽佳弹出了激情，很熟练，如果是她单独演奏可能要好一些，可与郎朗比着表演，就觉出王羽佳好像有点赶和乱了；郎朗弹出了美，每个音符像玻璃珠落地般的清晰滑润。若让我必须二选一的话，我选郎朗。
王羽佳在乱弹。
I have long admired Yuja Wang's performance of the Arcady Volodos rhapsody on Mozart's Turkish Rondo (pretty much a recomposition of the piece) and disliked Lang Lang's mugging while playing. And when listening again to Wang just now, I assumed she could not be topped. But lo and behold, Lang's playing of the Mozart exactly as he wrote it (except for the liberty of a very slight ritard towards the end) was utterly brilliant, and what I had previously called "mugging" was simply his youthful delight in Mozart's genius and humor. So his is the performance I treasure in this comparison-although I would still travel farther to attend an actual concert by Wang.
I’ve previously written a comment on this video, but just saw yours. I was glad to see that someone else is writing them in English too, but mainly bc of your change in thoughts on Lang Lang. He played this ‘March’ as it was intended to be by Mozart - a light, fun, and ‘humerus’ piece. However, I would travel anywhere to see LL (vs Yuja Wang) perform at a live concert as opposed to you! Musicians, just like everything else, is a matter of personal taste - this is just my own. 😉
@@elainemeyer5062 Yes, I read your original comment, which is what inspired mine. If I went to hear LL, I would need to keep my eyes closed; while he may not intend them that way, his gestures and facial expressions look awfully like showboating. YW is absolutely his equal as a virtuoso (?virtuosa?), but I have always felt her to be a totally dedicated musician. Thanks for responding!
@@brunyate 😊 I understand what you meant about some of his facial expressions, and bc of it wanting to keep your eyes closed if you saw LL live. I don’t intend for this to change your mind, BUT personally, I think it’s just his own way of expressing himself, being able to ‘feel’, and to become ‘one’ with the piece he’s playing. (I don’t know if you’re familiar with Lola A., or ever watched a video of her play the 🎹, but I’d have to do exactly the same myself, while the majority of men would feel completely different and ogle her due to her physical presentation. She plays with stiletto shoes 👠 , very tight dresses, and has extremely long legs 🦵! * I used Lola as an example, however I don’t feel that she is talented enough to even listen, let alone see, her play. There are many who have the opposite opinion of her than I do.)
@@elainemeyer5062 I am of course a man (though an elderly one), and can't deny that YW's personal appearance is a factor! But I'm also a professional musician. I was actually amazed to find that LL played the Turkish Rondo absolutely straight (though about half as fast again as I can); from what he does with, say, Liszt, I would have assumed he would ham it up. I have actually been at one of his concerts, years ago when he was hardly well known. I was impressed then, and am impressed again now. But too many intervening videos made me change my opinion in between. But I will listen with closed eyes in the future, and perhaps my good impression can remain. Let's leave it at that, shall we?
@@brunyate Absolutely 👍 ! BTW, I too was a classical pianist - and organist (since I was 5 and I’m now almost 70), and have a tendency to be extremely ‘picky’ about pianists and even other musicians as well. I like to see their hands and fingers up close when I watch them play - either in person or on a video. I guess it’s the same for you being a professional, and maybe we each look at a performance in a different way and like or dislike it for our own reasons. Happy listening!
虽然没法对比，更喜欢朗朗的演奏
以下的评论大多都是业余爱好者，王羽佳弹的炫技版，郎朗是原版，炫技版要比原版要难的太多了、不可同日而语😮
听了三遍喜欢王羽佳的版本，她有个有趣的灵魂
更喜欢朗朗的演奏， 感觉很轻松
王羽佳的有创意，古怪精灵，在五光十色炫技中让人目不暇接。朗朗弹得中规中矩，但是绝对是高手！只是比起王羽佳就是少了些创意。
兩位都很喜歡，各自放點自己的風格裡面，太厲害了。
彈這曲目可以感覺...朗朗是一個腦子四隻手，王思佳則是二個腦子四隻手。
朗朗彈奏聽出輕鬆和愉悅的心情 更高層次 不只是炫技
Even though one can’t compare the 2 versions of the same piece, but hands down to Yuja because her ability to modify the piece to such high degree of difficulties and complexity. Of course she can play the classical version equal to or better than Langlang, all I hear here is a race car driver and I was never a fan of him anyways! He has talent, so are a lot of other distinguished concert pianist!
It’s amusing in a sense that I have the opposite opinion about the two of them. I prefer Lang Lang’s version to Yuja’s by far! Not only with this one, but in general when I hear them both playing the same classical 🎹 pieces. I can feel much more ‘emotion’ in his, and that I don’t in her. To me, she sounds rather ‘dull’, and although she’s talented technically, she doesn’t come across as being able to make this sound like the ‘fun’ piece that Mozart wrote, and intended it to be. But you’re right about not ‘comparing’ (to a degree) musicians, as each person has their own opinion and preferences. But this is mine!
@@elainemeyer5062I agree with you, although I am a fan of Yujia, however for this piece I prefer Langlang more than Yujia as I could felt more joy in it.
I am a big fan of Yuja. I think the two pieces are not comparable as Yuja is not playing the original version. I play piano and I like Yuja’s version better.
郎郎彈得很🏆🏅🥇😍😌💖💝💘💞💕💓😻💯
感覺這女的王羽佳琴彈走火入魔了，聽了感覺非常不適，朗朗是真的彈的好，讓人心曠神怡
Lang Lang's performance reminded me of the movie 'Amadeus'. This is exactly how Mozart would have played his own piece, if he had the skills 😃😀😃😀
Beautiful ❤️
这两个没有可比性吧.....完全是两首不同曲子了，王羽佳弹的是改编的变奏版，难度至少提升了10倍....郎朗弹的就是原版土耳其....我5年级攻克了的曲子....至少这两首难度上毫无可比性。
As a piano learner, I would prefer Lang Lang's performance.
Firstly, In the techical aspect, Yu Jia stands out. She could still keep the melody clean and precise when quickly processing a lot of apregios. However, in terms of musicality, Lang Lang clearly wins. His performance is full of various dynamics but at the same time, keeping the melody smooth. However, although Yu Jia's performance shows a high level of skill complexity, she lacks control on the tempo and the atmosphere of the piece. Finally, in terms of completion, Lang Lang is definitely better. Yu Jia failed to keep the piece as a whole and has only succeeded on showing off her so-called splendid skills
👍I already wrote more than one comment about this video and my preference for LL’s overall treatment of it. What you explained is how I feel when comparing the two versions, and why. Both of them having studied with the same person, the main difference is in how they each ‘interpret’ and play so differently as far as their ‘expressiveness’ and emotion (or lack there of!) * I’m not referring to the technical aspects or level of difficulty - she’s very good in this respect, but…
There is nothing wrong with her tempo.
LOL 😂 ‘Splendid skills’ as in her technical ones with the 🎹, OR her LEGS 🦵?! I’m a woman so I’m not a good judge of that, or care to be!
論評⇒分析貼切了然！
同意上面的评论。朗朗名不虚传。
這一次我頭朗朗一票
会弹琴的这里都欣赏王吧，改编的太难了还能弹这样
演奏状态真舒服 有伸展 厉害
各有千秋朗朗的快樂是在形式上的羽佳的快樂是真實的
王羽佳我聽到很有壓逼感，朗朗我聽到很開心舒服
王羽佳小姐姐或者其他钢琴家是弹的好弹的快弹的好听弹的有感情什么的，郎朗是弹的牛逼，李斯特活过来也就这意思了，这是客观存在的事实，不是你个人喜欢谁不喜欢谁的问题。
说的对！对于外行听众其实就听谁弹的牛逼 不搞专业的人很难从不同角度去认识和评判 说多了也只能是露怯
评论的和看评论都请意识到 两人弹的甚至不是同一首曲子，所以任何针对这个视频说喜欢谁超过谁都是无理的。在这只能说喜欢原版还是改版的土耳其进行曲
我想大家都很明白，今天其實不是王羽佳 VS 朗朗，而是王羽佳 VS 莫札特。
再高超的技巧，在音樂神童面前還是得俯首稱臣。套一句Salieri 的話
“Displace one note and there would be diminishment. Displace one phrase and the structure would fall”
這場是莫札特贏了。但雖敗猶榮
同感。王羽佳的“土耳其”简直就是把莫扎特变奏得面目全非了！
@@PS-kd1if 再聽了一次，還是覺得莫札特很扯，他的曲子真的真的好好聽XDD但應該也是朗朗才能彈成這樣，不過最後一個音是怎樣???傻眼
創新 vs 保守
〔朗朗贏了！？〕
快慢高低層次 vs 使尾僅快還是快
说道Salieri ，我想起了 8几年的电影 莫扎特。上个礼拜刚陪儿子看过。莫扎特 本人就是个 人来疯，表现狂。从这个角度，羽佳 和郎朗 都很到位。很多钢琴家 弹得慢条斯理，中规中矩，并不是 莫扎特这个曲子的 本意。
两版都不莫扎特，都加入了好多自己的理解和风格，这没问题，理解曲子和理解诗歌一样，没有什么大多数的正确，自洽即可。相对而言，王羽佳表现的轻盈灵动，如被军队齐步不断惊起又好奇落下于不远处的雀鸟；而郎朗的风格则如江海浪潮，泥沙俱下，再强大的人类军队齐整的步点也被淹没在大自然的伟力之中……这是两种绝然不同的旁观者视角，相对而言，具体这首曲子，我更偏爱郎朗的演绎。另外郎朗的演奏表情和动作，的确容易招人吐槽，但这很大程度上是因为听众们往往对曲子的演奏方式和期望有先入为主的刻板印象，尤其是古典乐这种讲传承和积累的领域更是如此。
王羽佳獨一無二
朗朗，後面的隊排的很長
朗朗的技术明显在更高的层次上。
钢琴弹到一定高度 改编是一种享受😎
優秀的演出
兩位都是神人等級。但是我比較喜歡郎朗彈奏的版本，因為是我小時候學過的版本。雖然我再練個100年，也沒辦法達到這境界。😅
是啊！王羽佳是超級艱深的版本，郎郎是小學的版本。郎郎要練10年王羽佳的版本就可以達到她的境界
兩位鋼琴家都技藝高超，但郎郎的音樂確實帶給了我輕鬆、歡樂的心情。【我把歡樂注入音樂，為的是讓全世界感到歡樂 - 莫札特】
3:17-3:20 definitely a gem in music history
痴線的演譯，太正！thx!
朗朗牛逼，我就是一个无情的演奏机器。
我记得小泽征尔说，没有完美的音乐，完美的音乐只有在我早上独自阅读乐谱的时候，心中出现的音乐才是纯粹的声音。
而朗朗努力做的就是一个机器，还原乐谱形而上的旋律。
我更喜欢朗朗的演奏，听起来身心愉悦。王羽佳也很棒。
Improvise play as you like and have fun!
喜欢郎朗的，他比较原著，听曲的人都是熟悉那曲才能投入去听，就比如说在听那首歌投入时会跟着它唱，改编过就唱唱就对不上了
朗朗1臉高潮樣,神!
To compare these two is a dead end, yuja is creative and lang lang is a master of classical
兩個都很神，個人喜歡朗朗。
明显羽佳完胜，弹出了音乐感，很好诠释了什么才是钢琴家。
那位做作的只是被cbs捧红的弹琴师，喜欢混迹娱乐圈从未被专业领域认可，呵呵
朗朗的彈鍵真的很漂亮又厲害
我更喜欢Jazz版本，很喜欢那种味道。但是如果不喜欢Jazz比如我妈，就说Jazz不在调上。
朗朗彈的真好！放心的聽，另一個很免強緊張的聽完。
王羽佳等把古典音乐带偏了，向炫技，杂耍方向发展，她的技术顶级，但是音乐是要打动人的，当然，钢琴运动员，钢琴杂技也是一个分支。不过去听听霍洛维兹弹得舒曼的梦幻曲，技术难度绝对比不上这些改编的进行曲，但是霍洛维兹可以把一些观众弹出流泪。
Absolutely amazing! I loved them both. In the first piece, SHE is playing some music, whereas, in the second one, the MUSIC is playing him.
your ears hears when the girl is playing and when lang lang plays your whole body and sole are listening. This is the best way I can explain their play. Of course I love them both!!!
還是喜歡郎朗版，
1、有技巧
2、有音樂
王羽佳如果不露，我會更喜歡！
听朗朗的让我觉得自己开心的飞了起来❤❤
朗朗展現的是古典音樂輝煌的歷史與傳統，王羽佳則是在創造古典音樂未來的新樣貌。都很棒～但是更佩服王羽佳的創造力