Love both of these songs, but my favorite has to be Where Were You I’m Chicago. So short but so sweet. Thank you, Phil Ochs. You were and are the most beautiful wordsmith there ever was
I have always felt grateful to have heard about Philip David Ochs aka Phil Ochs and fell in love with his poetic writing style and how much heart he put into his music and lyrics as well as a biting sense of humor. As much as I also loved and admire Bob Dylan and his songwriting skills, I felt Ochs was a better singer-songwriter yet how many people know him and how few know Ochs? I only wish he were still alive when I became aware of his music.
As far as I know there was a labor rally in Detroit at the time but I could be wrong about that. Phil had supported other trade union events. It is a beautiful song and upsetting to hear the sadness he expresses. He seems to forget that an idea can be resurrected. His frustration is certainly understandable but I still wish I had been there. After he finished "I ant marching any more" the crowd burned their draft cards and Ochs would have seen that from the stage. The 50th anniversary of this event will happen in 2018 also the 50th anniversary of the death of Martin Luther King. Hopefully the American left will mark the event. The ruling elite have decided that they were on Martin Luther Kings side all the time and then they ignore his commentary on poverty and they ignore Ochs because there is literally nothing they can do with his music.
It wasn't a labour rally, it was the 1968 Democratic Convention. Students and other radicals had championed Senator Eugene McCarthy as the anti-war candidate for President, but at the Convention, there was a stitch up, and LBJ's VP, a machine politician name Hubert H. Humphrey was adopted instead. The Youth International Party (or Yippies) led by Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin and Ochs, among others, had decided to run a pig for president, and found one they named Pigasus (very classical derivation for the Yippies), but they got him from outside Illinois and so were charged with importing livestock across a state line without a licence. The Yippies demonstrated outside the Convention and were attacked by the Chicago PD, ordered in by the Mayor, Richard J. Daley a notorious Tammany Hall fixer. Seven people, the Chicago 7, were then charged with causing a riot. Look up the trial of the Chicago 7. Ochs was a witness.
Thanks for the explanation. I know that Phil later felt terrible about being 'taken' by Hoffman and Rubin who were more interested in themselves than a Revolution but I do wonder if he truly regretted going. And we won't get an answer until more of his writings are released, if then. Still when all was said and done it must have been quite the experience.
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I think I have thanked you before but with all the great stuff you put up about Phil you deserve another thank-you.It is really nice to see someone who really appreciates and puts a lot of time and effort to keep Phil's memories alive.That is awesome. Keep up the great work.
Love both of these songs, but my favorite has to be Where Were You I’m Chicago. So short but so sweet. Thank you, Phil Ochs. You were and are the most beautiful wordsmith there ever was
I have always felt grateful to have heard about Philip David Ochs aka Phil Ochs and fell in love with his poetic writing style and how much heart he put into his music and lyrics as well as a biting sense of humor. As much as I also loved and admire Bob Dylan and his songwriting skills, I felt Ochs was a better singer-songwriter yet how many people know him and how few know Ochs? I only wish he were still alive when I became aware of his music.
As far as I know there was a labor rally in Detroit at the time but I could be wrong about that. Phil had supported other trade union events. It is a beautiful song and upsetting to hear the sadness he expresses. He seems to forget that an idea can be resurrected. His frustration is certainly understandable but I still wish I had been there. After he finished "I ant marching any more" the crowd burned their draft cards and Ochs would have seen that from the stage. The 50th anniversary of this event will happen in 2018 also the 50th anniversary of the death of Martin Luther King.
Hopefully the American left will mark the event. The ruling elite have decided that they were on Martin Luther Kings side all the time and then they ignore his commentary on poverty and they ignore Ochs because there is literally nothing they can do with his music.
This is such a heartbreaking song..
Chicago had its shining moment in1968 and it has not been the same since.
It wasn't a labour rally, it was the 1968 Democratic Convention. Students and other radicals had championed Senator Eugene McCarthy as the anti-war candidate for President, but at the Convention, there was a stitch up, and LBJ's VP, a machine politician name Hubert H. Humphrey was adopted instead. The Youth International Party (or Yippies) led by Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin and Ochs, among others, had decided to run a pig for president, and found one they named Pigasus (very classical derivation for the Yippies), but they got him from outside Illinois and so were charged with importing livestock across a state line without a licence. The Yippies demonstrated outside the Convention and were attacked by the Chicago PD, ordered in by the Mayor, Richard J. Daley a notorious Tammany Hall fixer. Seven people, the Chicago 7, were then charged with causing a riot. Look up the trial of the Chicago 7. Ochs was a witness.
Thanks for the explanation. I know that Phil later felt terrible about being 'taken' by Hoffman and Rubin who were more interested in themselves than a Revolution but I do wonder if he truly regretted going. And we won't get an answer until more of his writings are released, if then. Still when all was said and done it must have been quite the experience.
@@Elayman1 Hi! Last night I saw a great documentary on the Black Panthers by Stanley Nelson. Turns out Bobby Seale, the 8th member of the Chicago 7 (!!) is still going. If Bernie S ever gets elected President, we shouls campaign for his Congressional Medal!! facebook.com/bobby.seale01/photos/p.10158530820379558/10158530820379558/?type=1&theater
In fact he was in Chicago for at least one night when he performed at a demonstration in the Chicago Colliseum.
I just watched Sorkin's The Trial Of The Chicago 7 and now I finally understand this.
I think I have thanked you before but with all the great stuff you put up about Phil you deserve another thank-you.It is really nice to see someone who really appreciates and puts a lot of time and effort to keep Phil's memories alive.That is awesome. Keep up the great work.
Here we go again!
That's awesome :D
no, it's all cool now. Thanks!
copyright problem, nothing I can do about it, sorry :(
What album was this version released in?
There & Now - Live in Vancouver 1968. 1 year before the song was released "officially" on Rehearsals for Retirement.
Meant to ask, is the song still blocked?