Thank you so much for this! As someone who only started diving a year ago, I've been looking for this sort of video for a long time. You guys are awesome!
Great video once again. I will point out that many find the braided hoses too floaty to work well for the long hose, in addition to being uncomfortable on the neck if diving without a neck covering.
When attaching LP hoses to second stages use two spanners with one just holding the second stage side still, because it is very easy to accidentally rotate the barrel inside the second stage and bend components. I know in Scubapro and Halcyon second stages they seem to rotate easily so it is definitely necessary with them. Of course, only slightly tighter than finger tight is all you need so you need to be careful when using two spanners because it's easy to apply too much force
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Very good video! I like that you really explain all the steps and show the big picture! Can you make a video about why you recommend this configuration over the Octupus variant for scuba diving?
Great video, as always!! You really make a better diver. I would suggest to attach the hose snapbolt with some sort of quick-release, just in case one has to deal with any kind of hectic when taking it off the d-ring.
Thanks. It doesn't make sense to use a breakaway boltsnap for any configuration other than sidemount. In a traditional DIR configuration, you will always breathe from the long hose unless you are sharing it with someone. On the other hand, it makes total sense for sidemount, as you are switching between regulators and need to be able to deploy the long hose from the clipped-off position. We are working on a bunch of sidemount-related content, and this will also be covered.
I have seen that you are using a miflex type hose. i have read that that could damage your drysuit with the friction while using, is it really the case are they better than the other soft hose? thanks for this tutorial. as usual it's awesome
I have heard they can kink on long hoses. They also do not last as long as rubber and have had issues building up a crystal like residue inside blocking air after being used for 5 years in tropics. I prefer rubber for these reasons.
@noahnovosel1021, we have refrained from discussing sizes because we all have different physical attributes. Be sure you end up streamlined, so for the SPG, get the length that will not be dangling, and the short hose should be short enough not to create a big loop around your neck that's sticking out. The only thing you should be mindful of is never using a long hose shorter than 200 centimeters, regardless of your height.
@@flowstatediversThank you for the informative and educational videos! I understand the advantage of a 200cm long hose in allowing both divers to swim in a single-file line while sharing gas. Could you please explain if there is any compelling advantage over a 150cm long hose if the setup is used for recreational tropical open water diving?
Its all about safet. 210cm Long Hose Setup allows the divers to Dive Not only next to each other but also behind one another in confined spaces. Especially good for Cave / wreck or Mine diving where Diving next to each other is Not an Option @@wilsonsing
That's precisely what's demonstrated in the video. This is the regulator for the single cylinder back mount setup, and as mentioned in the video, the long hose is compatible with all configurations, including single back mount, side mount, and twinset setups.
@angelolee9044 Keep everything streamlined. Should not be hanging below you when in horizontal trim. Clip it onto the d-ring thats installed on your waist strap.
@@flowstatedivers silicone grease is only safe at low pressures .04 mpa, above 10 mpa ( 1470 psi ) SIT or spontaneous combustion can occur. Why would you risk this with either end of an HP hose @ 3000 psi ? Shouldn't all recreational divers be diving enriched oxygen?
@smdiver First of all, not every recreational diver should be diving with nitrox. Secondly, nothing is going to combust with mixes lower than 40%, which is the recreational nitrox limit anyway. Most importantly, applying O2 lubricant will only be effective if you avoid contamination during the application process. Therefore, unless you do it in a completely sterile environment with gloves and O2-cleaned equipment, it's useless and will be no different from any silicone grease.
Another issue with silicone grease is that the composition isn't exactly the same from brand to brand. Some won't be as pure as others and might still have hydrocarbons left. O2 lubricant is guaranteed to be safe.
Forget about the term "octopus." The necklace regulator is for your personal use only because you'll be donating your long hose, which is the one you normally breathe from. This is different from the "octopus" concept. Have a look at the gas sharing video of ours so you get the full picture :)
@@flowstatedivers Sorry about the Octopus term, its basically used everywhere haha! I did check this video! I was just wondering as I just got a new set, the Mares 62X Abyss and the Mares SXS Octo, So i'm thinking, i should put the SXS as my Personal use only, and the 62X as my long hose, or should i put it the other way around, thats what the intention was behind the question! Again, Thanks for your awesome video's with such a knowledge!
It's just a consideration for diving near non-DIR divers. As long as you (as a DIR diver) aren't using the colour for any other reason then it's perfectly fine. As an aside, think there's an argument to be made that Hogarthian in the original sense is actually not DIR (in the original sense) at least where a twinset is concerned. Though this is quite pedantic... A reason for this is that DIR has the inflator coming off the right post and the Hogarthian config has it coming off the left because William/Bill Main says it helped detect roll-offs on the left post. Although DIR came out of Hogarthian, they are not exactly the same.
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I already dive in a DIR/Hogarthian configuration for a long time, but I can’t help myself to still watch those kind of videos 😁
Great one ! 👍
You guys are undoubtedly Masters! Very well done and thanks for sharing 👌
Thank you, much appreciated!
well said!
Another incredibly informative video. Thank you so much for these. Safe dives……
This Video Series should be standard education Material of any Agency! Awesome!
cannot agree more
This channel really is on another level of knowledge and complexity, you guys are awesome :)
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Thank you so much for this! As someone who only started diving a year ago, I've been looking for this sort of video for a long time. You guys are awesome!
Glad you find it useful. Stay tuned for more videos to come and please spread the word :)
Great info, looking forward to a dry suit video 😀🤞🏽🤞🏽
Coming soon!
Great video once again. I will point out that many find the braided hoses too floaty to work well for the long hose, in addition to being uncomfortable on the neck if diving without a neck covering.
@skydiverninetysix yup, choosing the type of hose is entirely up to your personal preference...
Great video, thank you! Would you please make one that covers hose length and proper routing?
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When attaching LP hoses to second stages use two spanners with one just holding the second stage side still, because it is very easy to accidentally rotate the barrel inside the second stage and bend components. I know in Scubapro and Halcyon second stages they seem to rotate easily so it is definitely necessary with them.
Of course, only slightly tighter than finger tight is all you need so you need to be careful when using two spanners because it's easy to apply too much force
@harambeexpress while this is true for most, the apeks second stages are designed differently and what you see on the video is the right technique.
You guys are legends! I always check to see if have any new videos available. Where you guys are based from some training? Greetings from Spain ❤
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@@flowstatedivers I have the bell activated. I just saying that is so good that I came back here all the time haha :)
I love these videos
Thank you!
Brilliant once again, thanks for putting in the effort! I'm hoping you will cover different reg configurations such as for a twinset and sidemount
Those are in progress, so stay tuned!
Great video, good tips again! I'm always learning something new from your content! Keep them coming 😍
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Thanks for another great video. And perfect timing, since I will be assembling my long hose regulator set very soon.
Thank you! Good luck with your assembly, get in touch if you need any help with it!
Very good video! I like that you really explain all the steps and show the big picture!
Can you make a video about why you recommend this configuration over the Octupus variant for scuba diving?
@lichtfischen6185 Thanks. Consider checking out our video on gas sharing, we discuss that topic there in greater details.
Amazing content as always.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video, as always!! You really make a better diver. I would suggest to attach the hose snapbolt with some sort of quick-release, just in case one has to deal with any kind of hectic when taking it off the d-ring.
Thanks. It doesn't make sense to use a breakaway boltsnap for any configuration other than sidemount. In a traditional DIR configuration, you will always breathe from the long hose unless you are sharing it with someone. On the other hand, it makes total sense for sidemount, as you are switching between regulators and need to be able to deploy the long hose from the clipped-off position. We are working on a bunch of sidemount-related content, and this will also be covered.
Great video!!
Thanks!
What length is the short regulator hose? Thanks
You're not using or lubricating O-rings between your LP hoses and second stages?
we do... 04:19 - there was just no point repeating this on screen multiple times after demonstraing it once
Hi. Do you have a table with the ring sizes for the first and second stages of the diverite XT1 regulator?
@zakultich just google it, most manufacturers are publishing their printable charts
I have seen that you are using a miflex type hose.
i have read that that could damage your drysuit with the friction while using, is it really the case are they better than the other soft hose?
thanks for this tutorial. as usual it's awesome
@youssefdiouri2112 I've never had this issue, and I'm only using miflex hoses.
I have heard they can kink on long hoses. They also do not last as long as rubber and have had issues building up a crystal like residue inside blocking air after being used for 5 years in tropics. I prefer rubber for these reasons.
Do you have recommendations for a compact wrench kit, similar to that allen key multi-tool? Right now I carry 4-5 separate wrenches.
We would also love to find that, so let us know if you come across something of good quality!
I think XS makes some kind of spoke shaped set with wrenches and allen keys built into one tool. As of this comment it’s $40 or $50 on Amazon.
Great Video! 🙏
How long is the Hose for your SPG? 60cm or 80cm?
And how long is the Hose of your Backup 2. Stage?
Thx 🔥
@noahnovosel1021, we have refrained from discussing sizes because we all have different physical attributes. Be sure you end up streamlined, so for the SPG, get the length that will not be dangling, and the short hose should be short enough not to create a big loop around your neck that's sticking out. The only thing you should be mindful of is never using a long hose shorter than 200 centimeters, regardless of your height.
@@flowstatediversThank you for the informative and educational videos! I understand the advantage of a 200cm long hose in allowing both divers to swim in a single-file line while sharing gas. Could you please explain if there is any compelling advantage over a 150cm long hose if the setup is used for recreational tropical open water diving?
Its all about safet. 210cm Long Hose Setup allows the divers to Dive Not only next to each other but also behind one another in confined spaces. Especially good for Cave / wreck or Mine diving where Diving next to each other is Not an Option @@wilsonsing
Is longhose great for single set aswel?
That's precisely what's demonstrated in the video. This is the regulator for the single cylinder back mount setup, and as mentioned in the video, the long hose is compatible with all configurations, including single back mount, side mount, and twinset setups.
How long do you recommend the SPG hose should be in a single tank BPW long hose setup?
@angelolee9044 Keep everything streamlined. Should not be hanging below you when in horizontal trim. Clip it onto the d-ring thats installed on your waist strap.
Link for the printable o ring size chart please?
Best if you google the specific one for the brand of your regs. Most manufacturer has their own o-ring size chart 😉
@@Babmajom88 thanks for the advice
Good video, but never use pure silicone grease. O2 compatible lubricants must be standard for any recreational or technical regulator configuration.
@@smdiver can you please explain why ?
@@flowstatedivers silicone grease is only safe at low pressures .04 mpa, above 10 mpa ( 1470 psi ) SIT or spontaneous combustion can occur. Why would you risk this with either end of an HP hose @ 3000 psi ? Shouldn't all recreational divers be diving enriched oxygen?
@smdiver First of all, not every recreational diver should be diving with nitrox. Secondly, nothing is going to combust with mixes lower than 40%, which is the recreational nitrox limit anyway. Most importantly, applying O2 lubricant will only be effective if you avoid contamination during the application process. Therefore, unless you do it in a completely sterile environment with gloves and O2-cleaned equipment, it's useless and will be no different from any silicone grease.
@@flowstatedivers Sorry but I strongly disagree! Why do most equipment manufacturer used O2 compatible lubricant and orings?
Another issue with silicone grease is that the composition isn't exactly the same from brand to brand. Some won't be as pure as others and might still have hydrocarbons left. O2 lubricant is guaranteed to be safe.
So basically, the short hose is the hose with the Octopus?(Spare reg.)?
Forget about the term "octopus." The necklace regulator is for your personal use only because you'll be donating your long hose, which is the one you normally breathe from. This is different from the "octopus" concept. Have a look at the gas sharing video of ours so you get the full picture :)
@@flowstatedivers Sorry about the Octopus term, its basically used everywhere haha! I did check this video! I was just wondering as I just got a new set, the Mares 62X Abyss and the Mares SXS Octo, So i'm thinking, i should put the SXS as my Personal use only, and the 62X as my long hose, or should i put it the other way around, thats what the intention was behind the question! Again, Thanks for your awesome video's with such a knowledge!
"A hose of a different color" O_o (dir-excessive)
It's just a consideration for diving near non-DIR divers.
As long as you (as a DIR diver) aren't using the colour for any other reason then it's perfectly fine.
As an aside, think there's an argument to be made that Hogarthian in the original sense is actually not DIR (in the original sense) at least where a twinset is concerned. Though this is quite pedantic... A reason for this is that DIR has the inflator coming off the right post and the Hogarthian config has it coming off the left because William/Bill Main says it helped detect roll-offs on the left post. Although DIR came out of Hogarthian, they are not exactly the same.