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- Do It Together is an independent project about DIY music based in Amsterdam, The Netherlads.
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Steve Albini is an American musician, record producer, audio engineer, and music journalist. He was a member of Big Black, Rapeman, and Flour, and is a member of Shellac. He is the founder, owner and principal engineer of Electrical Audio, a recording studio complex in Chicago.
Find out more about Steve Albini at
electricalaudi...
www.touchandgo...
This Interview was filmed for the DIT documentary, initially the concept was to create a compilation of interviews about DIY music around the world to explain how DIY works nowadays and to give an insight for younger musicians that could perhaps help them to choose their own road, this movie played in almost every possible venue that would be interested in having it and took many forms, depending on the requirements of the event or venue.
but the idea was to also upload all of the interviews in full, thereby giving the option for everyone to see all of the great ideas and stories. Finally after many years we can put some time into re-editing all of the interviews to upload them separately, I hope you like it.
Currently we're filming livestreaming concerts at the independent venue called OCCII in Amsterdam, and other music videos & political interviews with a new project called Bad Vibes.
Alek Riquelme / Interview, Directing & Editing
Shawnecee Schneider / Camera
Steve Albini / Audio Recording
Daan Duurland / Audio Restoration
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this would be like me taking a movie like the godfather and then editing my name in over every person in the credits and then selling it lol
My producer was just like him. When I left my recording session he offered to store my masters, and I bought a reel and he sent me home with the masters as well. Charged a flat fee, was awesome, was on stage with a band himself and was really witty and funny.
That's as it should be. Only here Albini is advocating that no one own their own masters, that their work should be given to the world freely with no means of protection or securement of financial reward.
Watch what people do, not what they say. In our current system, there is nothing stopping anyone from offering their work for free, to be used however the world sees fit. Why didn't Albini offer his own music open source? Why did he instead copyright (with all rights reserved) his entire catalogue, for profit?
1:54 that lemonade stand anology his hilarious
I love albini. he makes some very reasonable points, his ideas were sucking me in, and then I was thinking- what's the alternative? what great idea is he going to introduce?... turns out it's deluxe vinyl editions hahaha.
This shift was a big one, it hurt engineers like myself, because the rates got lower and lower and then unsustainable. The quality of recordings (performances) suffered, but everyone can make pretty good stuff, it's just not as good as a real studio recording.
The camera work in this was annoying. Never in my life have I wondered about the details of Albini's hands.
Or feet...
The purpose of intellectual property is to ensure artists and creators have the ambition to create and benefit society. Without this there’s no more making a living as an artist. I agree with his perspective in relation to the current state of the music industry, yet it’s absurd to say there’s no need for intellectual property laws. It’s fundamental to creative’s ambition to create. It’s like a natural law of society.
Agree 100% If there is an audience for what I love to organically compose, then I should be able to own it and exploit it for profit. The opportunity to make a living at what you love is in and of itself inspiration to others as much as the music. In a perfect world, everyone would be able to find a unique way to profit from their passions, which would also address the problem with the industry that he's talking about. Easier said than done.
no one said steve wasnt a cunt
The obvious answer is that you won’t make a living solely on the arts. It’s no loss to anyone except the ego of the entitled. It doesn’t mean the arts disappear.
Our species is savagely stunting its prosperity by not operating in a collaborative, abundance minded, positively reinforced etc... manner. The unfortunate old way of doing things was sufficient enough back then. Now there are different challenges and opportunities we face, so perhaps some innovation is overdue. Yes, I tend to talk in broader strokes than solely the topic at hand, hug me.
Acceptable leadership unites individuals. It doesn't divide sheep.
@Stephen Anthony Would you care to elaborate with real thoughts and words or contribute absolutely nothing? I just watched your videos so I'm expecting the latter but maybe you'll surprise me
This is good advice as a matter of pragmatism and adaptation, but it misses the point that the industry adapts too in its quest to take everything for itself and cut artists short-intellectual property rights, though in need of reform, are a critical means of protecting musicians’ income. If a giant company is gonna use my song for their TV show, I deserve a cut, because of the insane resources it takes to actually make the music in the first place.
What Steve Albini ironically missed here despite his political inclinations is that the less ways artists have to make money, the more that people with wealth are privileged to make art and the more those without are disprivileged. One of the good things about the old system was that anybody could start a band and have a chance to be elevated if the right people hear them. Now you can get heard by anyone, but there’s nothing that allows you to continue to make your art. No income, no art.
Rock seriously lost one of its best advocates when Steve moved on to realistic guy who sees things in a cool way and is true to the artform heaven
Adapt or die...It's todays reality. Albini is a wise man.
He'd be pissed if someone from Shellac lifted some of his compositional work without his permission, for profit and without ever crediting him. And guess what, the only way to 100% guarantee prevention this from occurring is to be extremely mindful of your personal intellectual property.
right? he seems to have lost the entire notion that someone can write a song or story, and someone else entirely can steal their work and sell it as their own. not just sort of influenced, but realllly lifted man. It happens. Often. Dude needs to find a different hobby cuz it seems too much music has saturated his brain.
@@christianhitt1196has anyone ever completely ripped off and stole a shellac song?
Check out Steven Kinsella on intellectual property. He’s a patent attorney who’s against the idea (he gives some of the same sort of arguments).
Long story short
Very few blacksmiths are horses.
Need to follow the middle path, a reasonable level of protection that allows some reasonable use esp if attributed & definately not scaring the crap out of creators for tiny infractions!!
The hand shots are so weird lmao
its true :D
Is the camera man trying to put this guy's hand under microscope ? .. what's he trying to find on his hands ?
Hair probably.
Idk about this one. So does this only apply to music, or does it also apply to patents etc? Seems like an elitist concept, since only people with capital can fully exploit the work of others to its maximum potential and with this concept they can do it with impunity. Now if he's only saying you can't control how it's used but you still get paid for it, that's different. Perhaps I'm missing something
lol lemonade stand would be the way ? ... people can taste it and then try to copy it
Totally disagree Paesano. Intellectual property belongs to the artist and not others . How you expect to make money if others steal your product.
JACK WHITE is doing it right with his Record Plant 🤩👍🏻👍🏻
Although sharing is one thing, but stealing is another... Either way i admire ALBINI as a recording engineer 😁👍🏻
You have to agree with most of what the man says, although I'd be interested to know how he would feel about intellectual property were, let's say, a corrupt politician using one of his songs or recordings as a rallying cry for idiots
Also, Steve, you got a bat in the cave there bruv
Man the director Loves hands. Wow.
lol vinyl ... talk about "backwards conception of how people should buy music and listen to it"
Tooth and nail Steve not claw.
so once you write a song it's no longer yours? dude sounds farther out than kurt right now
its simple. u can play anyone's music, but once u start selling someone else's music as your own, it's intellectual property theft. i dont get how u cant understand this you egghead
I like Steve Albini, but what he's saying here is total, 100% horseshit. The reason music is in such a sad state right now is because of music piracy. It's hard to even pay your rent as a musician anymore, and therefore the musical talent pool these days is about an inch deep. The fact that there's a million untalented music hobbyists uploading stale, unoriginal "beats," and lofi hip hop, and synthwave to the Internet doesn't make this is a musical "golden age." (There's nothing at all wrong with electronic music, btw, but there's everything wrong with shitty electronic music.)
I mean piracy is an issue, but I think a lot of people still buy music via streaming like Spotify, and yet this is still not sufficient to make a living. Furthermore people have been getting cheated out of money and rights for as long as recorded music has existed. I think it’s a liminal stage that will resolve eventually. I think real investment in arts by the state is a good way to offset this. Canada seems to have had some success with this idea. When we rely on the market to resolve these issues you get repulsive studio executives and Spotify and algorithmic music. I think professionalizing music is the wrong way to go. The market is the real killer of creativity. When you have to surrender to algorithms and a disposable culture the result is gonna be shit.
@@NrthEastOHsk8 ehhh i understand your point...ill counter it like this you said streaming is buying music i disagree. No person own streams.
With that same point and partially to your point streaming is the answer, but the way its executed its not allowed to be the answer.
Streaming is awesome because an artist has the chance to continue to make money on their works which doesnt happen with a sale.
The reason streaming doesnt work is because the big labels did deals with the streaming services to take a huge percentage of the monthly streams. I dont know the percentage right off but its well over 50% which leaves a smaller pot of money for everyone else.
Streaming is rigged towards the major labels and against independents. Now if it was a free for all and streams were not rigged in anyones favor i think music would be more interesting all around.
Major labels are more at threat in a free for all streaming vs a rigged game ....in sayin all this streaming could have brought down the music industry by itself. It wasnt allowed to.
Not at all the music industry has been milked to death from the businessmen pulling the strings behind the scenes, blame them not piracy. About your rant about untalented guys making music without any talent originality it's always been a thing it, back in the days you needed a guitar and 3 chords, today a computer and a software : that's the main difference.
@@cuevable There have always been greedy businessmen in the record industry, moron. That never prevented musicians from making a good living. The problem is nowadays THERE ARE NO PAYING CUSTOMERS, NOBODY'S BUYING THE PRODUCT. And nobody buys the product because they can steal it. Figure it out. Also: don't thumb-up your own comment up; it's pathetic.
@@profd65 ok mr. keyboard warrior, it's always nice to find people like you on the internet : polite and open to a converation . Have a nice life pal ❤