Do you need a 1000cc Motorcycle In Singapore?

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  • Is a big Class 2 motorcycle really practical for the stop-and-go streets of Singapore? In this video, we take a look into the cons of navigating a large motorcycle through the bustling urban landscape of Singapore. From the difficulties of maneuvering through tight traffic to the challenges of parking, we explore whether the allure of large bikes is really worth it in a city setup.
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  • @sleepy_dobe
    @sleepy_dobe 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I used to ride a R1200R (2015) for about 2+ years before moving onto a car, and I couldn't be happier with my bike. It's the heaviest bike I've ever had, and I'm pretty sure I'm smaller size and less strong than the guy in the video. But I've never had any real problems handling my bike. Oh, and my bike was heavier than stock cos I added 3 storage boxes to it - 1 top and 2 side boxes. My bike never went across the Causeway at all. All her mileage was done in Singapore. I always parked tail-in because it's easier to warn traffic behind you that you're stopping soon to park and oncoming traffic will know to give you some space since they now know you're coming to a stop soon. It's in their interest to move aside so they can keep going rather than being held up by you. Many SG drivers are selfish and time-conscious. So use that to your advantage.
    Exiting a carpark going down a slope.....never ever ride past the card reader. If you really find yourself in the same situation as shown in the video, don't even try to reverse the bike. Just put in gear, turn off engine, get off the bike, tap your cashcard, get back on and go. Because you know you can't push the bike in reverse. It's not your arms pushing, it's your legs. And you're pushing with your legs getting little contact with the ground. If you get off to use your arms, then you might as well go tap the reader since you're already getting off. Much faster, easier, and more comfortable.
    I also had a Katana 750 back in the mid-90s, and a CB750 around 2008-2010. From small bikes to big bikes, I've had roadsters (aka street bikes), sports bikes, sports tourers, scooters and cruisers (aka choppers). No trail bikes cos not my thing. But I did try riding my friend's KTM around campus. Super light compared to my bikes.
    Class 2B, 2A and 2 all got their own pros and cons. But also, you need to learn how to adapt to the differences of riding each class of bike. Even within the same class, different types of bikes will present different challenges, handling characteristics, etc etc, so to be able to fully enjoy the bike you ride, you need to know how to adjust yourself. I'm not claiming to be an expert on big bikes, or saying that I'm more experienced than the guy in the video. But I'm just trying to say that for me, I don't have the same issues/grumbles/complaints that he has about riding a Class 2 bike in Singapore. If you really like a certain big bike, and you can afford it, go for it after doing your due diligence. I know for a fact that the respective authorised agents for Harley and BMW do have test bikes for prospective buyers to test ride, so if you're concerned about the weight, you can consider checking them out to help in your decision-making.

    • @happyface8674
      @happyface8674 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you sound like me except i never had a GS 1200. because i am only 1.68m and weak knees prevent me from getting tall bikes. i think if i ever ride a gs1200 and had to stop at the park gentry, i would die from heart attack.

  • @emptyangel
    @emptyangel 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Honda ADV150 owner here. I crossed the border into Malaysia for the first time with my bike a few weeks ago and I honestly cannot imagine doing it in a larger Class 2 bike. Scooters really reign supreme in city-start-stop traffic.

  • @zulfadlirashid3509
    @zulfadlirashid3509 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    Totally agree. Too many times I struggled to find parking or get in/get out of parking with a class 2 bike.

    • @tri333ple
      @tri333ple  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      sometimes you really wished you were on a smaller motorcycle. 😬

    • @music75forlife
      @music75forlife 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      the prombles why the gantry got to build on a slop ?? why

    • @SaltedBadly
      @SaltedBadly 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No, need class 2A or 2. Such a pointless investment. U keep the money buy physical gold better and save it for rainy days or pass to ur kids. KnS, kena 1 covid 19 again sure kalang kabut sell

  • @user-pj9ih1hn2s
    @user-pj9ih1hn2s 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Class 2A : just right for balance of both....
    Happy riding, ride safe.

  • @cra_55
    @cra_55 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Happened to a friend. Finally got a Class 2 and saved up enough to buy dream big bike, then planned to sell his old kapcai. A few commutes on the big bike later, and he was back on his kapcai. That kapcai that he got years ago when he first got his 2B is still the bike he rides 90% of the time, an actual practical mode of transport. His big "dream bike" ended up being just a toy to enjoy on weekends.

  • @torrid94
    @torrid94 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    2:00 . Biggest nightmare when riding a Class 2 bikes. Especially a big or tall one like the Africa Twin. Even on a colder day, you're bound to sweat from the anxiety. 😂😂

    • @tri333ple
      @tri333ple  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      especially when a car approaches.

  • @Lesteryky
    @Lesteryky 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    You forgot to mention 1 very important point. The maintenance of class 2 bike. If it’s a daily rider, class 2b bike is 4x cheaper to perform the oil change as it only uses 1l compare to 4l for class 2 machine.

    • @elfutfoundation
      @elfutfoundation 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I do oil change once a year on my KTM Adventure R. Oil filter $7. 4 liter Motorex 10w50 $110. every 2 years I flush my own brake fluid…brake fluid is $15. I do my maintenance myself. TH-cam.

    • @thefungi7795
      @thefungi7795 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      GSA servicing interval 10km.. 4L engine oil. That's 1L for every 2.5 k km..

    • @themrjerry1995
      @themrjerry1995 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      price vs the frequency of oil change equates to almost same lolol between small and big bikes.

    • @masterfnfandlegoandroblox9589
      @masterfnfandlegoandroblox9589 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Class 2 bike maintenance similar to entry level car

  • @limtc1733
    @limtc1733 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Super 4 is light and punchy enough. For Singapore roads, it's more than adequate. Used to ride an FJR too and encountered the same problems as you. But on Malaysian highways it's a bliss to ride, 150, 160 cruise control, windshield up and super stable, I didn't even feel the thrill of speed. Now I'm back to a lighter bike, Kawasaki z900rs. It's Super 4 upsized that's all. Think iI'll stay with that for a while.

  • @yan7527
    @yan7527 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Even with all the disadvantages mentioned in the video, I really really loved my AT and Tracer. I've never thought of downgrading to a smaller bike. With owning a big bike, you just have to be mindful of where you stop and how you park.

    • @naqibezwnxx
      @naqibezwnxx 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hi bro how do you compare both AT and Tracer? I'm riding a Tracer too but thinking of Changing to AT. Anything to take note of? TIA 👍🏻

  • @mohdzaidimdzabri8109
    @mohdzaidimdzabri8109 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I recently downgraded from a 650cc touring bike to a 250cc maxi scooter. One of my best decisions. I travel to and fro KL almost every single day and automatic bikes are a life saver.

  • @Belleboi19
    @Belleboi19 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I personally believe in keeping within your budget. I noticed riders going way beyond what they can afford,when it comes to buying C2 bikes.
    Repairs are so costly, that oftentimes you'll be spending in the 4 digits. Keep the cost low so you can enjoy riding the bike worry free.

  • @choonkiat27
    @choonkiat27 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely objective point of view and advice.. Thanks Amos 🙏

  • @IanCorneliusLai
    @IanCorneliusLai วันที่ผ่านมา

    Quite a few years back, I owned and rode a Rocket III Classic. Super comfortable, Very stable, Mega HOT!!! At the same time I still have a, even today, an old BMW R1200C, which has very unfortunately been handed a death sentenced by NEA even though it more than meets the emission requirements.
    While both are large by Class 2 bike standards, both handle very well with low center of gravity, the Rocket is a behemoth compared to the BMW.
    For day to day city use, I miss my previous bike a Class 2S Super 4 Spec III.
    Easy to lane split, park almost anywhere, just about enough power to get out of sticky situations in SG, and even for short forays across the Causeway.

  • @Cptjonmiller
    @Cptjonmiller 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The most vivid memory I have that prompted me to get a class 2: I was overtaking a Malaysian bus on lane 1 with a pillion, and then, the bus started cutting into my lane. Pressing on the horn did nothing. Not sure whether to brake or to accelerate, I chose to accelerate, and with the meagre power a class 2B can afford, I barely made it out. That is why I ride a class 2. Personally, will never go back to 2B for safety reasons.

  • @headoftimpohon
    @headoftimpohon 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    For all the Singaporean buddy, get a scooter like XMAX or Forza. It can cater both world (here in Malaysia both are 250cc). Owning 2nd bike in Singapore a tricky situation hence 1 bike that can do both is the answer. Here in Malaysia, XMAX going to Siam is increasing like hell😂 so sure can one!

  • @music75forlife
    @music75forlife 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    i think getting a class 2 bike is every riders ultimate dream, only when u get one than u know all the disadvantage.its a good video though 👍

  • @fuadnur2746
    @fuadnur2746 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Getting stuck at a downslope gantry really sucks big time. For me, riding MT09 on SG roads is the perfect bike for me. Nimble enough for lane filtering, plenty of power to siam sticky situation and you can move your bike to park like a 2B bike. But my previous bike TMAX, albeit super comfy, i am super nervous when lane filtering and its so much heavier compared to MT09 even though its 530cc vs 847cc.

    • @limwenying
      @limwenying 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I own a MT09 too! It's the most nimble class 2 bike and I enjoy riding it thoroughly. I need to ride around singapore where certain areas have big trucks, long vehicles and hence not very safe for a small bike as I will sway if they drive past me.

    • @hakuniaba2
      @hakuniaba2 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same as here daily mt 09…cheers

    • @debbielimbl
      @debbielimbl 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey man! I also ride MT09. The bike is very cooling to ride and not too heavy

    • @Risquenemo
      @Risquenemo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      hi there does it cost alot to maintain a mt 09?

    • @debbielimbl
      @debbielimbl 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Risquenemo Not really. I believe it's almost the same as any other Class 2 bikes out there. The fuel consumption is very good for a 900cc. I get about 23+km/litre of fuel.

  • @goodboybenji95
    @goodboybenji95 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a good video ! thank you so much

  • @aries666dc
    @aries666dc 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For Singapore roads, a super 4 is extremely perfect. If well taken care of, that bike will be perfect in every single condition.
    But boring la after a while 😅

  • @keanesee01
    @keanesee01 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I ride around Manila on a Scrambler 1200, same sentiments too, challenging to get through traffic but I try to manage. Eventually I got used to it but when I go back to a small bike, it’s so much fun.

  • @JohnDoe-gb8st
    @JohnDoe-gb8st 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thx Amos. I'm on an S4 and midst of my Class 2 license. Was thinking if a big cc bike suits my daily ride to office work. I'll keep in mind the opinions on this video.

  • @31ernest
    @31ernest 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the very truthful video

  • @feng125
    @feng125 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    went from a Class 2B bike up to a Class 2 Blackbird and STX1300... then came to pretty much the same realization as you said in this video. Been riding a 150 scooter for the past 12 years ever since. Not going back to Class 2 unless its like a T-max or X-ADV scooter type.

  • @yongfook
    @yongfook 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've ridden 2 different Class 2 bikes in Singapore on short stints while visiting and I could feel the anxiety when he goes down the slope towards the auto ticket gantry. Impossible to back out, hard to u-turn safely on a tall heavy bike, cars coming up behind you blocking you in, and I would say about 50% of the time the gate wouldn't work for me (double-checked my NETS card correctly inserted, has balance etc). Glad to see this is not an unusual occurrence! I thought I just had bad luck.

  • @TimuraAce
    @TimuraAce 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im riding a 1200gs now, its a great bike but a struggle to move around in Singapore. Used to ride cb400x. I miss that bike because its so easy to move around for daily city ride. Good fuel mileage, good manoeuvring.

  • @kingbananana
    @kingbananana 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I ride a R6 and ffs everything mentioned in the video is exactly what I feel rn. Just to add on, maybe specifically for higher cc sport bikes.. it's almost Impossible to keep within sg speed limits even on expressways, the heat will creep in on the thighs unless you go fast. It's a pain to ride big bikes in Singapore, must cross border to really appreciate the larger displacement.. I also ride an aerox as my daily and I couldn't agree more with you, scooters are really a game changer in city riding 🤣

  • @AC-ip8uv
    @AC-ip8uv 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Having the same problems with my GSA in SG. Thats why i always have to plan if I want to ride my GSA in SG, which parking to go for, will ban those especially gantry with slope, but for me I still keep my Xmax which mainly for work and SG ride.

  • @kraptor11
    @kraptor11 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve been riding my ducati scrambler 800 for over 1.5 yrs now - and it’s perfect for Singapore as well as riding touring from Singapore to say phuket or Bangkok (done it). I didn’t take the 1100 as it heats up fast at traffic lights. When you consider the sports bike - yes it’s overkill and overheat. Any large ADV bike - definitely hard for Singapore. But the BMW R9 scrambler or anything similar makes perfect sense.

  • @yumeyama4783
    @yumeyama4783 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thanks for the video. Was deciding between a Yamaha Tracer 7, Tracer 9, and Niken and though I was already heavily leaning towards the 7, this video has helped nail it down. I ride almost everyday and plan to do some touring and feel these bikes fit the task well enough. Though everyone says the CP3 engine is really nice, I think I'll settle with the CP2 since my priorities are daily riding in Singapore rather than the touring capabilities or sporty riding with the bigger bike. (plus I think the squinty lights from the T7 looks better). On top of that, there are plenty of comparisons on the net that shows the recent Tracer 9 has some quirks like wind buffeting issues, tendency to stall, overly stiff suspension, and much more that the smaller brother does not appear to have.

    • @gunjamed93
      @gunjamed93 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      same boat as you, also decided T7 is good for me haha

    • @qikaigao3991
      @qikaigao3991 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed. I’m riding a Xsr900. Although bike dimension is small and I can manoeuvre it no problem, the heat is real, and i usually only use 10% of the throttle

    • @muhammadnursyakiran8970
      @muhammadnursyakiran8970 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm riding a tracer 7 2021 model, daily use, CP2. Decent power to ride in SG road. Easy to lane spilitting. Maintenance wise is cheaper than a S4, uses 2.3 Litre of engine oil, 17 litres can reach 350km+. The only con is a parallel import. So far no problems

    • @PianxSya
      @PianxSya 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I ride a Tracer 9 daily, coming from CB400X. Buffeting not really an issue unless you are overly tall but the clutch is a tad sensitive so I did stall a couple of times before because of this. Suspension is fantastic for the 9 but I think the biggest complaint for me about the 9 is that its overly low as the exhaust is tucked under the engine itself. So I do end up scraping the exhaust if I go too fast or with pillion on some higher than usual humps notably the one at CIQ Tuas. For daily riding though, the 7 is good enough. In terms of maneuvering, the 9 is just as maneuverable or even better than the CB400X coz it has a shorter wheel base (which also means your pillion is closer to you).

  • @siluk
    @siluk 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I'm from penang ..Same struggle bro..i totally loath riding in the island..traffic is horrendous..too many traffic lights and too many narrow lanes..luckily, in malaysia, it doesn't cost much to own another smaller 'kapcai' (underbone) as a 2nd bike

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you lucky cat! no need to pay for 10k COE!

    • @gunjamed93
      @gunjamed93 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      not to mention the drivers in penang..... peace ah bro i also from malaysia

    • @gh_studio4945
      @gh_studio4945 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@fidelcatsro6948and keep the bike more than 10 years 😂

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@gh_studio4945 they can keep their bikes for generations as museum pieces

    • @azmanmohd8399
      @azmanmohd8399 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed Bro ! I’m from Penang too … sold my Triumph Speed Twin 1200 early this year (it’s not suitable for long distance ride) & bought a smaller bike Suzuki V-Strom 650XT.
      But for short distance, city ride, ride around Penang island or any distance below 100km - I’ll ride my Honda ADV160 … very comfortable, agile & easy to squeeze “cilok” in our Penang massive traffic jam 😆😂👍

  • @Alsinsin
    @Alsinsin 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    100% right. The problem in Singapore is the cost of owning a vehicle. It is difficult to own 2, one for local rides and one for long distance ride. I owned a VFR400R, a Pegaso 650 and a ST1100 in Singapore before shifting to cars due to family reason. Out of the 3, my favorite one was the ST100. It was big but light as soon as I was moving due to the very low CG. Finding suitable parking spaces was most challenging. But it was able to do everything. Later in Thailand, leaving in Bangkok, I bought a NMax which I found is the perfect tool for squeezing into the traffic (a lot more packed than in Singapore) but this machine starts to feel limited on highway and make you feel vulnerable. Later I rented a Xmax in Singapore. That could be the ideal size for Singapore. Pretty small but with enough power and presence to feel alright on the expressways. Main limitation of scooters is the suspension and riding position that make them tiring, at least to me. Over the past few weeks I have been riding a 390 Duke. 400cc bikes could be the sweet spot between fun and reason. But going Malaysia and beyond, I would want a big bike.

  • @hafiz7058
    @hafiz7058 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was thinking of upgrading from my 400x to a class 2 bike, but might get a zx4rr instead. More power, with better suspension and brakes, all the tech and quickshifter as standard, but still light and nimble to get around SG traffic.

  • @untoldaerial2174
    @untoldaerial2174 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ideally biker enthusiast need x2 bikes. 1 for SG commuting, the other for touring adventure outside SG. 🤭 However, it is expensive here in SG to own 2 bikes. I own class 2b to class 2a to class 2 all these years after passing classes of bike license. Now back to class 2a bike. In reality, I ride in SG aka city riding 90% of the time daily riden. So I find class 2a, for me just nice la... I did the reality checked to remind myself... ✌🏽

  • @rogerlim6065
    @rogerlim6065 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My rule of getting any bike - you must be able to carry it up at least 3 times.. and able to ride it comfortably for average long distance (400Km) without much stress. The rest is individual preference depends what you want it for. I choose ADV as I usually ride for touring and less daily commute. For Spore, I would strongly propose for Scooter unless you are those who like to playing with clutch/gears. 😅

  • @evoyaksha
    @evoyaksha 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In my opinion uh, 2A bikes are good enough to bring in SG plus if you plan to cross boarder or plan to start on track, it shouldn't be much of an issue as well. The way I see it. Class 2 for me is for like Long Touring Or Tack usage heh.

  • @7777Gixer
    @7777Gixer 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used to own 3 Class 2 bikes. I love the FZ1S for city commute. I hate the Super Tenere when I accidentally dropped the bike at the carpark. 😅

  • @kelvinong1332
    @kelvinong1332 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I think 2A bikes are the best in between to get for SG ba...

    • @tris8312
      @tris8312 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree , i have a cb400x and im quite tall . I find it very agile as compared to riding a class 2 bike

    • @tri333ple
      @tri333ple  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      2a bikes are great for all round performance 😍

  • @masterfnfandlegoandroblox9589
    @masterfnfandlegoandroblox9589 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Mid cc class 2 bike best compromise. Not too big, easier to maneuver.power is there when you need it. Can do it all

  • @daneal79
    @daneal79 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Great vid! Guess I’ll be keeping my 2A bike for now.

  • @RunLiveSG
    @RunLiveSG 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Agree with you 100%... Plus highest maintenance, lower mileage, higher road tax and insurance...

  • @PianxSya
    @PianxSya 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is definitely the case for Class 2 adventure / sport tourers. Some Class 2 bikes are really small though, like my wife's Triumph Speed Twin. Easy to lane split, plenty of power and very maneuverable even in heavy traffic. But the heat, I could probably roast a chicken on the side with that bike.

  • @photographbywinston
    @photographbywinston 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2A is indeed ideal but I still love my Tmax for city riding

  • @rhezeus
    @rhezeus 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    adv 160 here. i think if planning for city riding. scooter/dct motorcycle are dream due to traffic stops and tight roads. yes 1000cc are nice but consider the location etc.. even im gonna buy a higher cc i probly go for a maxxi scoots or xadv i mean yes its 700+cc but the comfortability of dct/automatic in city

  • @uncletakumi
    @uncletakumi 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m also thinking for changing current on Vespa GTS 300. What are your thoughts on Zontes 350E? I know most swear by Xmax but I recently saw Zontes quite good reviews. Only thing I am concerned about is reliability as it’s a China bike

  • @bytemegga
    @bytemegga 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    haven't even touched on getting stuck at checkpoints. my calves got a workout thanks to being stuck there on my Super Tenere 😢

  • @Aahbozz2
    @Aahbozz2 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Get X-ADV750 la scooter class 2, can use to tour also

  • @Firdauzsg
    @Firdauzsg 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The love hate of riding class 2. haha hot and sibei expensive to maintain. Glad made the switch to scooter (XMAX) best decision ever.

  • @SpacebarWarrior
    @SpacebarWarrior 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Next video idea, is cafe, sports, adventure, or scooter best for sg daily riding?

  • @BHKG8818
    @BHKG8818 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For leisure rides, absolutely. I ride a 1000cc sportbike to work the past few years, it was great in smooth traffic. Until you get stuck in heavy traffic in a scorching hot Sunday in May. Your balls are already medium rare by the time you reach the first traffic light.
    The amount of traffic lights in Singapore, trust me when I say your 1000cc bike isn’t happy and will let you know it’s feeling by further cooking of your inner calves.
    Then there’s the parking, some places have such a narrow parking slot that you wonder if the one drawing the outlines of the slot have some prejudice against riders. You then also worry that the people who parked beside you will accidentally leave their signature on your beautiful ceramic coated bike.
    The weight of the bike is also a huge concern. I’m a strong male and once stationary dropped my bike. Never once had I called an object a fat b*tch. It was fully pumped with petrol and it took so much of me to lift it up that I had to order 2 double mcspicy after to replenish my energy from that maneuver. Won’t wish that on my worst enemies, especially if they are built like weasel.
    Did I also mention that they are thirsty af? They will demand more meals than your actual gf/wife or both. Your smiles card is called a smiles card for a reason, because you always feed it generously with points.
    The traffic lights in Singapore. I can tell you I’ve never used the 6th gear before. In heartland and city area, you can get by from A to B in 1st gear. In the expressway, 4th gear can potentially get you into a lot of trouble in regards to the law and your life of course.
    Finally, I got myself a second sportbike because I’m shameless like that as I love sportbike but a smaller 125cc one. It felt like a toy in terms of how light it weighs. I felt like I was abusing it just by sitting on it.
    In conclusion, 1000cc is Overkill with a capital O. Even 600cc is overkill to me. In my humble opinion, 400cc is perfect as it has more than enough power to provide you with a lot of fun. 1000cc is for you to flex and shame those Honda civics that thinks they can outrun you. It’s great to get chicks and a lovely night ride around the country and some photoshooting. But never ever ride it to work, at that point if you do you’re just a psychopath. Hope this helps anyone who wants to get a 1000cc bike as their only bike.

  • @Talemuse-Cyoa
    @Talemuse-Cyoa 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Agree with everything being said . I had bikes from every class. My next bike is probably class 2a scooter for easy riding. Class 2 was fun when it’s moving but you have to stop a lot of times. That is not fun.

  • @nilnil8072
    @nilnil8072 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Agree, if you need abit more power class 2a is good enough.

  • @BullionRoundsNBars
    @BullionRoundsNBars 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what mic do u use on the bike

  • @kevingallen1678
    @kevingallen1678 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You needed an even bigger bike with reverse! EG BMW 1600,goldwing

  • @x2s7
    @x2s7 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you were to get a class 2, a scooter is a viable choice.
    Yes its just 500+cc in general but they are one of the agile bikes compared to the non scooter counterparts.
    Though not as comfortable as touring or adventure bikes, they can provide a comfortable tour.

    • @tri333ple
      @tri333ple  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thats true, but also depends on what kind of long distance trips. we'd take our Africa Twins off road during trips as well so it fits the purpose 😍

  • @gavinchua742
    @gavinchua742 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wah now idk if I should just buy a class 2a bike or take my class 2 in 3 months time....

  • @kennylai5333
    @kennylai5333 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i agree with u, a small bike would be soooo much easier, but sometimes having the power to overtake is sooo much better.... so i think a 2A bike is more suitable for singapore, but where u park 4 mins $2.25 sia

  • @lyndawan
    @lyndawan 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ❤what u showed is totally agreed..hey bro do more facts video pls..on how sg Road like..ur point is good

  • @muhammadhafizdbinharon1640
    @muhammadhafizdbinharon1640 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The gantry problem is real. Happend a handful of times to me. Sweat man! 🥵

  • @gerubax
    @gerubax 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hi, wheres that place where you watched the sunset?

  • @DN2Aria
    @DN2Aria 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    some bikes are lighter though, like the newer S1000R are even lighter than older CD400s.
    maybe 600-800 cc is another option?

  • @komodochainz4783
    @komodochainz4783 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video! was about to get my class 2 license when i saw the lta implementing stricter rules so i guess ill stick to 2a. with more power comes more responsibilities..i think ill just get a xmax or a 2a scooter with just enough power to get out of sticky situations and comfort.

    • @gunjamed93
      @gunjamed93 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      what kind of stricter rules are they implementing? anywhere i can read on that?

    • @sleepy_dobe
      @sleepy_dobe 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Getting a Class 2 license doesn't mean you need to upgrade to a Class 2 bike. With a Class 2 license, you can ride any bike. It's just something that might come in handy someday. You never know. Like Class 3 vs Class 3A. Maybe in an emergency and you're the only driver left and the car is a manual. If you only got 3A, sorry bro, can't drive.

    • @komodochainz4783
      @komodochainz4783 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sleepy_dobe true but not a necessity for me now, so ill just stay 2a

    • @komodochainz4783
      @komodochainz4783 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gunjamed93 like the traffic lights they going to implement speed cameras along with red light camera so regardless its like when yellow light, u speed up will also kena..dont speed up have to jam brake...so i feel no point going cls2 unless out of country or long rides...stop go traffic best ride scooter also, less heat, hand dont have to keep clutch in out, also comfort

    • @gohjohan
      @gohjohan 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@komodochainz4783Just get the Class 2 license. You'll never know when you get a Class 2 bike and also the training would be a good experience.

  • @TheSunMoon
    @TheSunMoon 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Class 2B a bit too soft for the casual trip to the North. Once i get 2A, will get a bike then. I'd say best balance. Class 2 will take next time, but the bike not necessary 😂

  • @geraldyip611
    @geraldyip611 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where was the last location at?

  • @Roz_ggez
    @Roz_ggez 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely needed, so u can ride to Genting fast aa not like cb500x taking 6hrs to reach there 💀 plus u can tapau geng2 LC135 with top box on highway...

  • @ahkkim26
    @ahkkim26 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got 2 & 2b bikes but i tend to use my CRF1100 daily because of its comfortability and my work distance.. est 600km in 1 full tank really save me alot of hassle from going to the petrol station. 😅

  • @jdc3636
    @jdc3636 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are big bikes cost just as crazy as cars in Singapore?

  • @woonloongleng2743
    @woonloongleng2743 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Riding CBR600F2 is just nice not too big not too small

  • @samuvelmaniraj2657
    @samuvelmaniraj2657 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    6:22 may I know the location??? Looks good. 😄

  • @kindajal
    @kindajal 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    no need. overkill. but the safety aspects plus point. now 2A bikes also have good safety tech. 2B slowly catching up!

  • @azureliteyahoo
    @azureliteyahoo 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No
    Need:
    require (something) because it is essential or very important rather than just desirable.

  • @MDIkanDoman-bg3up
    @MDIkanDoman-bg3up 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want to own a bike but at the same time coe reach 10k alrdy and I would like to know, how much do I need to spend to get bike license I regret not taking during NS😢

  • @foccacia
    @foccacia 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video reminds me why I sold my FZ1. I am always worried when exiting a carpark on a slope

  • @Justz_118
    @Justz_118 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think size and weight is a matter of getting used to it. Each bike has their own character. You need to ride your class 2 bike on a daily basis, you will get used to it. Your skill will improve overtime as well.

    • @martinchin8010
      @martinchin8010 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Totally agree. I had anxiety with a 1300cc for almost a year, but the daily rides made it go away eventually.

  • @wtf-worldtravelfoodie2382
    @wtf-worldtravelfoodie2382 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    woah! same thing happened - down slope on a carpark exit and it wouldnt read the card. Luckily a friend was just opposite the carpark and saw me, he helped. I would have sweat right down to my balls otherwise. at that moment I realised having big bikes sometimes sux.

  • @choompa
    @choompa 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What did you ride?

  • @rvs55
    @rvs55 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah. So I've been riding literbikes for nearly 2 decades now. R1 to FZ1, and they're hot. And so I have a maxi-scoot for my commuter ride.
    LOL... it's also a class 2 Maxi scoot. But it's still a lot better than a literbike for the local roads

  • @tjk5662
    @tjk5662 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wheres the location of the park at the end of your video!

  • @azeoprop
    @azeoprop 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i love my xsr900. It's small and cute yet powerful.

    • @tri333ple
      @tri333ple  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Best class two bike hands down -Jake

  • @mohamedaltaf996
    @mohamedaltaf996 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How about bikes like mt 09?

  • @MTOSCAMCOIN
    @MTOSCAMCOIN 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How aboutt 600/700? R7, adv 700?

  • @73jacksoo
    @73jacksoo 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are very light class 2 bike around... Mostly supermotos... lighter than most 2A bikes.

  • @Dr3aMz1982
    @Dr3aMz1982 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    maybe 2A is the good inbetween?

  • @hafizhl
    @hafizhl 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2a just nice best of both world

  • @technicallyright16
    @technicallyright16 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To answer the title, yes

  • @yckss17
    @yckss17 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    how about 2A bike?

  • @zo-moto
    @zo-moto 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cannot lah.. if you are going up north maybe ok lah.. but if you drive around metro and stuff like that.. then better off with a scooter or small cc bike..

  • @Hihuxadv
    @Hihuxadv 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Every biker has a dream bike in their mind when they take their class 2b. Usually that dream bike is a class 2 bike.

  • @thepressurevault
    @thepressurevault 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Taking my class 2 now, but gonna just stay on 2A bikes in SG. I used to own a Nmax but after awhile, the ride quality just becomes a bit boring in my personal opinion.

  • @dietrichr2296
    @dietrichr2296 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1000cc bikes are considered which class in Singapore? 2A? Or 2B?
    I wish to get a 1000cc bike when I start working there in 1yr. Been researching on owning a 1000cc there. The video helps 😊😊

    • @tri333ple
      @tri333ple  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Our class system starts at 2b which caps the capacity at 200cc, 2a will allow you to ride up to 400cc, and class 2 has no capacity limit. Conversion of a foreign license will only allow for a 2b license, and you’ll need another two years at least to get your class 2!

  • @jasonyeozhishen
    @jasonyeozhishen 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    if you earn half decent salary then just go get it. you do spend more without a doubt (depending on brand) BUT every single ride and every single start of the bike is just so enjoyable. i rode my class 2 for 4 years as a daily and love every single day of it. Oh ya go get a full system for +bonus

  • @dsjc_
    @dsjc_ 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The short answer is definitely no. Most of the time a Class 2A bike is more than enough, so someone would have to think very carefully if they’re ready to pay for the increased road tax, increased sticker price, less efficient engine and all the other things you mentioned in the video.
    Maybe owning for a year or two just to experience the thrill of it, impress your family & friends and all the looks you’ll get from the public, but most people just downgrade back to a simple 2B scooter or bike for daily commutes because it’s more practical.

  • @DonYang73
    @DonYang73 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Riding in SG is simply just for fun , as a hobby, pastime. Big bikes, no problem at all.

  • @garrickcrw
    @garrickcrw 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Short answer: No need but it’s a good experience!😊

  • @junwei4062
    @junwei4062 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I will say yes. In SG context, it really depends on which class 2 bike you riding. I travel at least 50km daily and is riding NC750X; previously was on Super4 Revo but the cost of NC is cheaper and easier to maintain. Due to it's height, lane splitting with NC750X is so much easier compared to Super4. Parking is never a problem for me because I have the habit to disembark and park the bike. Bigger bikes are more visible to other road users so the likelihood of them "bullying" you is reduced. With the lack of small bikes agility, you are likely to ride more safely as well.
    ***BTW, if anyone planning to get big bike, please don't install the big ass side boxes and road hog when lane splitting just because your ass too big cannot pass through :D

    • @sleepy_dobe
      @sleepy_dobe 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Problem is not the side boxes, it's the rider. I've seen many small bikes road-hogging too, sometimes even when not lane-splitting. Just be considerate, glance at your mirrors every now and then, and if you see someone behind, then move aside and let them overtake.

  • @headoftimpohon
    @headoftimpohon 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:30 bro, no lane spitting mer Singapore?

    • @tri333ple
      @tri333ple  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Can but after what i went through, was trying to rest HAHA

  • @RubberTyres
    @RubberTyres 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My MT-07 I feel is just nice. Lighter weight than most class 2 while having good braking power and acceleration. Of course scooters like xmax are more convenient but they are scooters.

    • @Waguwagu93
      @Waguwagu93 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey mt07 rider here too! Proud 2nd & 4th owner of the same bike. 😊

  • @maxlee372
    @maxlee372 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is there such thing as a class 2 bike that does not run hot?

    • @bugeyedcivic
      @bugeyedcivic 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mt07 nc750. Generally more cylinders, hotter

  • @zach8776
    @zach8776 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sold my tracer900 to ride with my super4 in Singapore. Never left Singapore w my bike before haha

  • @winstontan6702
    @winstontan6702 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can have more reviews of smaller bikes? 😂

  • @si9ina
    @si9ina 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what about cruiser bike? Shouldn't it give you a relax ride as well? 😅

    • @tri333ple
      @tri333ple  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes if u have space to cruise during peak hour traffic

    • @gohjohan
      @gohjohan 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tri333pleJust ride it off peak. That's what I used to do when I was working in Singapore.