Hans Niemann claims a three-fold repetition in a totally winning position | Niemann vs Maghsoodloo

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  • This game between Hans Niemann and Parham Maghsoodloo at the World Rapid Championships 2022 was filled with so many ups and downs. Firstly, Maghsoodloo built up a completely winning position out of the opening and into the middlegame. But then he sacrificed material which was not necessary, to give Hans chances. Niemann played really well and got a great position. In fact at some point he even missed a mate in three! But the final position was quite curious. Niemann didn't like his position and claimed for a draw. Parham didn't agree to a draw and wanted the arbiters to check. The engine shouts that it's a winning advantage for White! What was going on?! It was all so confusing. Check the video to understand it all.
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  • @inemanja
    @inemanja ปีที่แล้ว +256

    That 6:58 look from Hans: "Are you ok. Throwing away a winning game just like that!? Hold my beer, I'll show you in a minute how the game is really supposed to be thrown away!"

    • @JayTheYTGuy
      @JayTheYTGuy ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That was the funniest reaction I've ever seen lol. Hans is just a character man.

  • @thesarasohrabi
    @thesarasohrabi ปีที่แล้ว +406

    Arbiter: Are u sure.. looks like u are winning
    Hans: Yes but it's 3 move repetition
    Parham:

    • @shannyforlife
      @shannyforlife ปีที่แล้ว +8

      🤣

    • @ThePaintedShip
      @ThePaintedShip ปีที่แล้ว +28

      This video to me makes me believe that Hans is on the spectrum

    • @sam2725
      @sam2725 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Yeah, why didn't he just look at the eval bar to see he is winning? What a fool..

    • @vahidmirkhani
      @vahidmirkhani ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@sam2725 Parham was blocking his view, DUH.

    • @Curios-jx9gp
      @Curios-jx9gp ปีที่แล้ว +7

      rules are rules :D :D

  • @arackelianarsen
    @arackelianarsen ปีที่แล้ว +225

    Comment for beginners like me. At 8:30 Hans should play Be4. You can't take bishop because of Qxh5 checkmate. If Kh6 then Rh8 checkmate. If pawn to g6 then Qxh5. You can't take Queen because of discovered check with bishop on e4. Only move is Kg7 and then Qh8 checkmate.
    it's a draw because of threefold repetition. The rules are: the threefold repetition rule states that a player may claim a draw if the same position occurs three times during the game. ...
    The game is not automatically drawn if a position occurs for the third time - one of the players, on their turn, must claim the draw with the arbiter.
    So Hans has a winning position, miss that move with 2.30 on the clock and decided to claim a draw.

    • @steelsteez6118
      @steelsteez6118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "only move is kg7".. Isn't there a pawn occupying the g7 square?

    • @AiR1DaN
      @AiR1DaN ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@steelsteez6118 no because the pawn would be on g6.............

    • @tontonbeber4555
      @tontonbeber4555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Cosmic Goat in 3

    • @Tony22715
      @Tony22715 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I know you are just stating facts, without judgement, but it should be noted that while, yes, Niemann (2698 FIDE, 2706 peak) missed the mate, so did Maghsoodloo (2719 FIDE, 2721 peak). Maghsoodloo made the blunder in the first place.

    • @arackelianarsen
      @arackelianarsen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tony22715 you right. Blunders happen. I don't have enough experience to judge. Is it easy move to find? Maybe. But I think anybody can miss that, especially with ticking clock.

  • @raosahebsuryavanshi84
    @raosahebsuryavanshi84 ปีที่แล้ว +793

    The draw speaks for itself

  • @advertslaxxor
    @advertslaxxor ปีที่แล้ว +143

    The repetition repeats for itself.
    The repetition repeats for itself.
    The repetition repeats for itself.
    The repetition repeats for itself.
    The repetition repeats for itself.
    The repetition repeats for itself.

    • @StrandedKnight84
      @StrandedKnight84 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm the 69th like.
      I'm the 69th like.
      I'm the 69th like.
      Nice.
      Nice.
      Nice.

    • @polemopoleno7104
      @polemopoleno7104 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrandedKnight84 lol

  • @giacomogin8972
    @giacomogin8972 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    My man was completely lost, his opponent gave him a rook for absolutely no reasons, then he missed mate in 3 and finally claim a draw…

  • @tsundere-.-
    @tsundere-.- ปีที่แล้ว +408

    The vibrations were really hitting him at the end

    • @GutsmanLoL
      @GutsmanLoL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😭😭😭😭😭😭🔥

    • @optimusedits7269
      @optimusedits7269 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So original and funny

    • @pinehasnambandi9722
      @pinehasnambandi9722 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wow were all laughing 😐

    • @deeputhomas9887
      @deeputhomas9887 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently not hard enough. Those things need an update.

    • @Wheatsolo
      @Wheatsolo ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm laughing. Ignore the comedic idiots. Pull out the beads one by one.

  • @dddallinga
    @dddallinga ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Hans callings a judge looks like lost Travolta in pulp fiction 😂😂

    • @quentinchronic6348
      @quentinchronic6348 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nobody? 🤣

    • @mrhusse5
      @mrhusse5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had me dying 😂😂😭

    • @3m1rk
      @3m1rk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrhusse5 ayyooooo

    • @mrhusse5
      @mrhusse5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@3m1rk my man, nice profile picture! May you be blessed with great strength and vitality in your pursuits in life by Mother Nature herself -- salute!

  • @fabz1509
    @fabz1509 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Pure Comedy at 7:01 when Parham takes the pawn in a completely winning position. The look on Niemann & a very non chalant reaction from Maghsoodloo is priceless.Thanks for posting this video. Now I have more resources as Black in Nimzo Bd2 variation.

    • @ryuk5673
      @ryuk5673 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maghsoodloo doesnt really react at all though.

    • @thureintun1687
      @thureintun1687 ปีที่แล้ว

      he seems mentally abnormal, i mean not in a "weird guy " way, but definitely having an esteem problem that seems like all his behaviour aren't real

  • @ziko317
    @ziko317 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Funny how this guy before cheating accusations was a 90%+ accuracy monster with the quickest FIDE rankings uprise in known history.
    Now after: he's one of the most inconsistent GMs to ever live. It's quite unbelievable, magic - miraculous even some would say.

    • @scottekoontz
      @scottekoontz ปีที่แล้ว +18

      His 2700 classic rating has been steady throughout 2022 as he played OTB... is that really suspect? Seriously? Since when is a constant rating suspect? Inconsistency has occurred many times with great players, but somehow they did not cheat, only Hans? Note that we cannot know how often Hans cheated online, but we are fairly certain that Magnus, Hans, Hikaru, Rapport, So, Yoo, etc are not cheating OTB.
      Carlson recently blundered a winning game (to a player rated lower than Hans I believe) and ended up losing, and nobody called the opponent a cheat. Why? Because the opponent was not Hans. If the "Hans cheats OTB" people did not know the opponent and thought it was Hans they would certainly accuse. Since it was not Hans they ignore it.
      90% accuracy. I know there is some standard way of analyzing games (and the algorithm changes periodically) but each game has to be analyzed separately. Short games, complex games, etc. When people stop taking some spreadsheet from an unknown blogger filled in with percentages from an unknown algorithm with "trust my hidden algorithm" written all over it the statisticians take notice.
      It's quite believable. Not miraculous statisticians say.

    • @Pandosopoderoso
      @Pandosopoderoso ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scottekoontz hey hans, stop making burner accounts. You’re a cheat!

    • @scottekoontz
      @scottekoontz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pandosopoderoso Hey Magnus. How about that OTB game we had?

    • @jacks-back
      @jacks-back ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@scottekoontz It's called circumstantial evidence. Hans labelled himself. If he had said I cheated several times as a youngster online, it would have looked a lot better. A cheater saying I only cheated twice, when Chesscom says more likely 100 times, doesn't look good. (they only caught him twice). BUT Hans confirmed that the software from Chesscom is very good and accurate. If we have a known thief and something gets stolen, then it is obvious to suspect the thief.
      The difference of strength in his game is too high. Levi said if he played 100 games vs a 2100-2200 player, he would win them all. I think Magnus uses the same logic. Hans outplayed him! Magnus didn't lose due to some combo mistake. He got outplayed, and that is more or less impossible for Hans to do that. All these games confirm that it was not the same "player", that's called circumstantial evidence.

    • @scottekoontz
      @scottekoontz ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jacks-back
      Many 2700s have beaten Magnus (some recently) and in all cases Magnus was outplayed and/or blundered. Thus we all know it is possible to do this, and Magnus did not cry foul and make a big deal out of it except for one notable game.
      Levi quote is silly. Statistically a 2300 would not win (tie or lose) MANY times in 100 games against a 2200 player (36) or a 2400 player (24). If he said this, then he would be laughably wrong over 1/3 of the time.
      Cheating online is very different than cheating again and again for several months OTB.
      Beating a higher ranked player is not circumstantial, losing to a lower ranked player is not circumstantial.
      "Circumstantial" people cannot see past the insanity of claiming one expert player is also expert in technology and somehow making several very fast moves in a row when supposedly communicating moves to an outside source, calculating an answer (using how many engines, how many depths?) and sending it back, deciphering it, and making the move within seconds in many cases. And one player is able to do this?
      The 100% games are BS and debunked by many. It was an unknown algorithm from an anonymous source that cannot be reproduced, and what we know about that algorithm is that you simultaneously use several engines, many depths per engine, and an unknown number of CPUs, and then check to see if one of the three top choices of ANY of those combos match the players' move. Several of the supposed Hans' "100% accuracy" games were re-played online with an engine running to "prove" cheating, and some of the moves never appeared even after waiting a few minutes of engine run. Clearly not 100%. Some were called "odd" of "unorthodox" moves. Huh? Some were considered blunders according to some engine... so 100%?
      Run all 2022 OTB GM games against one engine, pick one depth, and a set # of CPUs without the player names present. Rank them and find the cheaters... good luck since one player will land on top of most lists, and it's not Hans.

  • @ThisSentenceIsFalse
    @ThisSentenceIsFalse ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Ah yes, a performance worthy of the fastest rising player since Bobby Fischer.

    • @ryuk5673
      @ryuk5673 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      bobby didnt cheat tho

    • @david.mariano
      @david.mariano ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ryuk5673 who said he cheated?

    • @robweeks3238
      @robweeks3238 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @david.mariano
      @david.mariano ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @SirClassen oh god

    • @CyVinci
      @CyVinci ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yet you people claim he’s cheating when he plays with brilliance OTB

  • @mikumikuiyada
    @mikumikuiyada ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello. as the buzzer manufacturer this is a well known problem. buzz buzz buzz means your position is a draw via repetition. buzz buzzz buzz means your position is winning. he probably coughed during the second buzzz and hence thought it was drawn via repetition. i believe a change in code is needed, however the buzzer was designed to not emit wifi waves to avoid cheat detection device

  • @shangrila64
    @shangrila64 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It can be accepted that he did not see the mate, although I doubt that a top ten would miss it, he had a lot of time.
    However, what gives clues to the level of his game (I'm not talking about the issue of cheating), is that he does not see that he is winning in the final position. It is true that he has very little time, 30'' against 2'.
    In any case, Niemann must be enduring tremendous pressure, being under everyone's magnifying glass.

    • @planespeaking
      @planespeaking ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The arbiter spotted his advantage. (Wow, you REALLY edited that comment!) Your original comment was basically said the win was hard to spot.

    • @JackHarb89
      @JackHarb89 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Can people stop arguing with the pressure all the time he fucks up? Magnus is under pressure all the time because he is expected to crush anyone. Hikaru is in Blitz / Rapid, because he is expected to win as well. Nepo and Ding are expected to win all the time as well, one of them being the next WC. And ultimately everyone there is under immense pressure, because they have to make it to the money, otherwise it's a high loss for a lot of people because of the traveling costs. And the Hans drama is over already, nobody asks him anymore about his cheating past and I see more games of the Hikaru, Magnus and other Super GM's focused on and analysed than Hans' games. Hans increased his rating surprisingly fast and does not stand a chance in a field of Super GM's. That's the reality. If the Arbiter just gets over and with one blink of an eye sees that he is winning, how does someone who beats the GOAT with Black does not see it at all and forces a Draw. It's remarkable.

    • @TheHolden20
      @TheHolden20 ปีที่แล้ว

      How could Hans win at 9:44?

    • @spanishaddict2950
      @spanishaddict2950 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JackHarb89 bro kramnik once blundered a mate in 1 in a classical game and lost.

    • @jty9631
      @jty9631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JackHarb89 Yea it's pretty remarkable how people dont know the difference between rapid and classical.

  • @jams0001
    @jams0001 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    went from near AI level chess to this

    • @papaja6759
      @papaja6759 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Yeah I wonder why 😏
      No, actually I don't

    • @noelshaback7191
      @noelshaback7191 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@papaja6759 stg no one knows how to use that emoji

    • @PaulCezanne_
      @PaulCezanne_ ปีที่แล้ว +32

      wdym "to this" he plays in top level tournaments

    • @sam2725
      @sam2725 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Indeed, didn't even convert the win, and only drew against a +2700 gm.. He should quit chess and become a chicken farmer

    • @KnightToRemember
      @KnightToRemember ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@papaja6759 1 hour and 15 minutes of extra time and 20 extra seconds for increment, here you go

  • @southstar9931
    @southstar9931 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Thanks for putting the diagram of the board on the screen 🙌

    • @miloradowicz
      @miloradowicz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But why would you do it upside down? 🙄🙄

  • @Ledrummer
    @Ledrummer ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Maghsoodlo has cleaned the right hand after every handshake to Hans 🤣

    • @ProdYafa
      @ProdYafa ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just noticed lol. How sweaty is this Hans nerd?😂

    • @Parusnik55
      @Parusnik55 ปีที่แล้ว

      😆👍

    • @javadlakzaie6726
      @javadlakzaie6726 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      توهم دیدی این صحنه رو افرین من هم دیدم ما انسانهایی با دقت ۱۰۰ درصد هستیم😁

  • @jhidalgo_
    @jhidalgo_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you so much for the live evaluation, much appreciated.

  • @MrDaxium
    @MrDaxium ปีที่แล้ว +71

    8:30 Hans has forced mate in 3 starting with Be4

    • @debeastdueeast
      @debeastdueeast ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DCHEZ He does in fact mean Be4, and it is indeed a mate in 3. Look at the evaluation bar on the right side of the board, it's all the way up for white

    • @thomasbrady4359
      @thomasbrady4359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how??? Be4 will be beaten by the pawn

    • @thomasbrady4359
      @thomasbrady4359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh I got it lol

    • @arackelianarsen
      @arackelianarsen ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@thomasbrady4359 if you take, then Queen to h5 checkmate

    • @rekamabuka2140
      @rekamabuka2140 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@172km Qxh5

  • @sofnaji
    @sofnaji ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is hans' right trouser leg shorter than the other trouser leg? Or is his right leg just longer?

  • @scibuff
    @scibuff ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OK, missing the mate in 3 (Be4+!) happens (though rare at this level) but not seeing Qb5 and going for a 3fold that's just ridiculous regardless of whether your beads are on or off

    • @XxxXxx-br7eq
      @XxxXxx-br7eq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No one's perfect I've seen Nakamura make just as big of mistakes before although it's rare this guy is still objectively one of the 60 best chess players in the world at least

    • @marzipanhunt2870
      @marzipanhunt2870 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@XxxXxx-br7eq Hi. Quit buying that Florida swamp land. Now.

  • @keenleannuanonas643
    @keenleannuanonas643 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the virtual board at top

  • @gregwerner6231
    @gregwerner6231 ปีที่แล้ว

    So on the procedure to walk together to the corner to check the computer for a 3-fold repetition. What if someone made that claim and was incorrect? The players I am sure know the positions perfectly in their head and are calculating the walk from and to the board. Maybe Hans could have figured out the winning sequence in this instance for example had they determined that the match wasn't over?

  • @sanekabc
    @sanekabc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys, why don't you show the game or the part where it is won. Etc.

    • @alexponco4753
      @alexponco4753 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he rarely won in blitz+rapid wcc
      He even drew against some FM+IM and finished 104th placed in rapid and 54th placed in blitz

  • @inemanja
    @inemanja ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:39 missed mate in 3! (Be4+)

  • @mikegamerguy4776
    @mikegamerguy4776 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just love the look on a GMs face when another GM does something incredibly dumb by GM standards. Rook captures pawn. Hans' eyes got big as saucers. TBF it looked incredibly stupid to me too, but I don't know shit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ When the eval bar goes all white, there is a missed win of course. For a small hint in terms of number of moves scroll down.
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    find mate in under 5 moves

    • @smevox7490
      @smevox7490 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You mean Stockfishes eyes.

    • @thejoe7682
      @thejoe7682 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      White had a passed pawn which if he pushes, then there is no hope for black. Black sees that he can exchange a rook for a bishop, 2 pawns, and make a passed pawn. Material wise it can be similar and having his own passed pawn creates counter play in an otherwise hopeless position for black. I think it was not a bad move.

  • @valuxlevelux5618
    @valuxlevelux5618 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:00 thats how you share sickness xD

  • @swedishpsychopath8795
    @swedishpsychopath8795 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 11:26 : what is the thing on Niemanns back-pant that looks like circular antenna? Right side,, close to this anhal khavity?

  • @TheBugkillah
    @TheBugkillah ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I think the only repetition was the vibrations.

  • @Abc-tx4zr
    @Abc-tx4zr ปีที่แล้ว

    DIdnt black have to play qb2 still though the repetition starts with qd1 after which qb2 is a repetition? Its not a repetition he only played qe2 two times qd1 at the end was a repetition if black plays qb2 but qe2 is even slower

  • @quicolic
    @quicolic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You gotta love the silent but intense conversations at the end of the match

  • @finmat95
    @finmat95 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    OF COURSE THE COMPUTER IS WRONG, the GOAT cannot miss this one.

  • @dontrachtman3095
    @dontrachtman3095 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There's alot of pressure and tension in blitz chess matches which can lead to miscalculations. Some players can handle the pressure better than others. It looks like Niemann gets very uptight in blitz chess.

    • @jatinchadha7740
      @jatinchadha7740 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is rapid.

    • @dontrachtman3095
      @dontrachtman3095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jatin Chadha 15 minute game? I can't see the clock. Then there's alot more time to move but it's still fairly quick.

    • @mistermonologue2442
      @mistermonologue2442 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dontrachtman3095
      If this looks like blitz chess to you...well, this was almost a year ago. I'm sure you've seen more games by now.

  • @bananekrumm
    @bananekrumm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a chess beginner. The draw, I understood. Was Nieman in the winning position? Why this theater? Please explain to me. Thx

    • @howard5992
      @howard5992 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, Hans had an easy win if he attacked the king ... it's not hard to find actually...but they were dancing their queens around...SMH

    • @lepatron6195
      @lepatron6195 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@howard5992 terrible answer

    • @9014234137
      @9014234137 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bishop to e4 white, if bishop takes bishop then queen takes pawn in h5 check and its mate

  • @Pain420
    @Pain420 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the winning move at 6:58 that Maghsoodloo missed? I can't see it..

  • @marcrob100
    @marcrob100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing that the arbiters have to check manually for 3 fold repetition. Why can't the system put a flag on that game so if a player claims it they just say yes/no?

  • @billtalent1
    @billtalent1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah no one plays a chess engine and then plays like this, this is like making accidental blunders, this game was him being blind

  • @philindien
    @philindien ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the guy on the left usually play 99-100% accuracy???

    • @alexponco4753
      @alexponco4753 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes,most of the time online

  • @ivanignacio2353
    @ivanignacio2353 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Be4+ winning move on 8:29

  • @gregwerner6231
    @gregwerner6231 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hans ought to be a Twitch personality, because so many of his matches have such an entertainment value. How can he have any FIDE rating if he throws away matches like this?

  • @mikev324
    @mikev324 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So what happened? Was it 3-fold repetition or not and why do both act like they don't know what they're doing? This can only work if both sides want the draw so why do they act so weird around it?

    • @FighterPilotPoker
      @FighterPilotPoker ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is 100% incorrect. Only 1 player needs to request a draw when situations like this one warrant it. Other player did not ever agree to a draw unlike your comment. He was told by the arbiter it is a draw - that Hans request was being granted.

    • @lepatron6195
      @lepatron6195 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hans blundered an unstoppable mate by not moving his bishop out the way of his queen. He was still in a winning position, but after previously displaying cockiness after his opponents rook sacrifice/blunder and making this blunder of his own, his emotions took over and he decided to request a draw after a three move repetition. His opponent and the arbiters were confused because he made the decision to draw in a winning position solely based off of emotion, and Hans may have appeared to be confused because he was emotional and was trying to clarify that he was in fact allowed to draw in this manner. He puts up 3 fingers and says three questioningly to his opponent.

  • @sneakypuffin
    @sneakypuffin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the beads' batteries had probably run out of juice

  • @myTERAexperience
    @myTERAexperience ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like Hans or not, he pointed out the truth which most wouldn't have. You know for sure people would've noticed watching this anyways.

  • @radone469
    @radone469 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don't understand Niemann himself was smirking after getting rook for a bishop, and then he just agreed on draw? I guess chess really speak for itself

    • @sam2725
      @sam2725 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Where is the smirk, it was a very intentional rook sacrifice to begin with? Also how is it shameful to take a draw against +2700 with 30 seconds on the clock? The position isn't clear at all, even if simply staring at the eval bar would have you belive otherwise

    • @DaaimShabazz
      @DaaimShabazz ปีที่แล้ว

      Black has compensation, but white did miss a mate.

  • @abip3005
    @abip3005 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Finally hans will say "i speak for myself" 😂

  • @ShashankSingh-yi5vi
    @ShashankSingh-yi5vi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The kind of Blunders Maghsoodlo himself made in this game I don't think he himself caught that checkmate. People needs to be stop being too harsh on this kid. He has learned his lesson for being too rude, let him play peacefully now.

  • @Cld65
    @Cld65 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He also missed a mate in three after 45...Bd3?? with 46.Be4+!

  • @bkbhavish
    @bkbhavish ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Maghsoodloo wiping his hands after the handshake cause he knows where those hands where 🤣🤣

  • @musakhoshnaw1857
    @musakhoshnaw1857 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the end Masuoglu wanted to check out HANS able to evaluate the lines or his attention on the vibration

  • @johnnyzee383
    @johnnyzee383 ปีที่แล้ว

    @8:35 Niemann misses a mate in three (...Be4+!!) and game over..and people talk about the old greats like Capablanca how they couldnt compete with todays Grandmasters.....lol.. Capa would NEVER miss this..would absoloutley CRUSH these guys.

    • @alexponco4753
      @alexponco4753 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did u compare Niemann to Capa?LMAO
      Niemann is like shit to even compare to top 10 super gm,yet u compare him with Capa
      Find a better comparisson

    • @johnnyzee383
      @johnnyzee383 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexponco4753 First of all...slow down there tex..I personally would never compare Capablanca to anyone other than current and former world champions with some exceptions..I was making a comment based on what OTHERS have said, generally speaking about older classical Chess Champions compared to today's Grandmasters. Second, Niemann did beat Carlsen and rather easily, so he isnt exactly shit as you say...in fact in this video both players made serious mistakes..but again that has to be taken in context with the speed of the game.

  • @kevinwellwrought2024
    @kevinwellwrought2024 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Black is very solid with queen and bishop pair plus a passed pawn and in a blitz or rapid it is almost impossible for white to win such a position and Niemann knowing this wisely claims a draw where Parhram was even willing to carry on.

    • @hyperbius760
      @hyperbius760 ปีที่แล้ว

      At some point Hans had a check with Be4+, instead of Qe3, which wins the game on the spot for white. Hans didn't see it and it allowed Pahram to bring back his light squares bishop to defend his king's area.

    • @kevinwellwrought2024
      @kevinwellwrought2024 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hyperbius760 Parham also had three winning moves begenning of middle game and towards the end of it but he missed them. Listen dude, this is blitz not classical and time is more important than best moves. These players do not miss anything in normal time control. Parham is a 2700 elo player which means very strong grandmaster.

    • @craigslist6988
      @craigslist6988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kevinwellwrought2024 I've been reading comments looking for the relevant fact... this is blitz? fr? they need to show the clock because the skips make it look like classical. And in any case time is critical, easy for everyone to "spot" mate in 3 when a computer tells you but if you're on clock you can miss it.
      I have no defense for him if he cheats, not a fan even, I'm just against blatantly poor game analysis..
      But even before the game he won with Magnus everyone was saying he had very hit and miss play OTB, hence why they thought it was suspicious that he would randomly do well.
      It's possible, literally speculating having never looked at more than two of his games, he plays very creative strategic plays but sucks at tactics, so sometimes strategic plays work out so well the tactics can be weak. But it can also be that the strategy doesn't work. Things like this are possible.

    • @kevinwellwrought2024
      @kevinwellwrought2024 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@craigslist6988 we don’t believe Hans cheated in this game

  • @reyx8563
    @reyx8563 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We all want the Nieman smiling not the serious 😂

  • @spockofdune8657
    @spockofdune8657 ปีที่แล้ว

    that must be quite a recoiling feeling to shake his hand, judging that the adversary cleans his hand each time he touches his hand.

  • @siartje
    @siartje ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do these chessboards automatically register moves? If so, what happens if you knock a piece over

    • @aquam3
      @aquam3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My guess is that it registers the location of all the pieces everytime the clock is hit.

    • @lepatron6195
      @lepatron6195 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf r u talking about

  • @stevenstanton8037
    @stevenstanton8037 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hans isn't playing his full potential because everyone is accusing him of cheating and he prob cant focus all that well with that on his mind

    • @jacks-back
      @jacks-back ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So he forgot to charge his batteries, or what are you saying? His potential in the last three tournaments was obvious. "Good" result vs weak players and long formats (time to cheat), poor results in fast formats and strong opponents. The "Person" that beat Magnus is not the same player that played these last 3 tournaments. Chess does indeed speak for itself.

  • @swedishpsychopath8795
    @swedishpsychopath8795 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 12:07 in the middle of the frame: Is that the "you adjusted your pieces on MY time" - guy? The one that played aginst the problem boy that always brings noisy friends?

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg8595 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:30 hans should play more puzzle rush.

  • @Alunackthemage
    @Alunackthemage ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is the guy that played with 99%-100% accuracy to this

    • @user-gu1un7pb7k
      @user-gu1un7pb7k ปีที่แล้ว

      But if he was cheating before why would he stop now and play with low accuracy, would that not be obviously suspicious?

    • @crumbopulis
      @crumbopulis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you think it would be easier than trying to continue cheating?

    • @lizijie98
      @lizijie98 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-gu1un7pb7k It is indeed suspicious, thus this video and comments like these. He can always blame pressure and all that if he wants in this case. But if he continues cheating and actually gets caught, it's over for him.

    • @user-gu1un7pb7k
      @user-gu1un7pb7k ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lizijie98 Right but the fact he's playing poorly right now sort of indicates he isn't cheating and is probably suffering mentally from the big controversy. I wait with bated breath for him to get caught, seems pretty impossible to cheat OTB at these high level tournaments, and indeed no one can realistically explain how he is cheating.

    • @williamrobert9898
      @williamrobert9898 ปีที่แล้ว

      @J LOL cheating in OTB events happened before and players were caught so stop BSing already

  • @cliffjacobs3952
    @cliffjacobs3952 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Billie Joel lookalike Hans Niemann has to be the official court jester of the chess world.
    Actually, in French the bishop is called le fou - "the fool/jester".
    That's HN down pat.

  • @shangrila64
    @shangrila64 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It is true that in any sport it is fun to have a 'bad guy', it amuses me to watch his videos, he is quite a character.
    In any case, he has to improve a lot to become a Top 20 (Top 10, with his age and with the Indian talents that are coming out, will have a difficult time).
    Unfortunately for him, he will always have to prove his innocence because we already know how people are and he will be marked forever.

    • @marzipanhunt2870
      @marzipanhunt2870 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      He marked himself.

    • @CoreDump07
      @CoreDump07 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      it doesn't help that he always looks bored/annoyed

    • @arbo3495
      @arbo3495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marzipanhunt2870 how? Carlsen accused him without any factual proof. He should pay him for ruining his repetition without evidence

    • @marzipanhunt2870
      @marzipanhunt2870 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@arbo3495 Hi. Carlsen did not say anything close to :neimann cheated in the over the board game against me. Carlsen never said that. Carlsen did concede the game to neiman and shook his hand. The next day Carlsen withdrew from the tournament. He never mentioned neimann's name.

    • @JamesWarful
      @JamesWarful ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marzipanhunt2870 that’s true, but later on he did say he suspected him due to the way he looked relax in tense decision making moments…

  • @JagaranNeupane
    @JagaranNeupane ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The CLAIM speaks for itself!

    • @abip3005
      @abip3005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

  • @LordElwe
    @LordElwe ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Sorry, but for some reason 12:28 looks like two people who know nothing about chess pretending to analyze a game

  • @travelowlnet
    @travelowlnet ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes, of course, many commentators now feel encouraged to ponder the capabilities of an HN. Dear chess friends, there are hundreds of such examples from other GMs. Ivanchuk once missed a mate in 2... etc. Analyze regular GM games of pre computer times. With a computer analysis you can often only shake your head. It is easy to talk smart. Come out of your bubble and be more fair!

    • @DaaimShabazz
      @DaaimShabazz ปีที่แล้ว

      A GM missed a mate in one in this tournament and it was not in a time scramble.

    • @jacks-back
      @jacks-back ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If that happens so often, then pls show me a "rising young star" that beats the WC and then blunders 3 tournaments with Mate in 2, Mate in 3, blunders the opening vs an IM and then resigns. Blunders, a pawn endgame that every Super GM can do blind!
      Please show me just one example apart from Hans!
      The "person" that played Magnus was not the same "person" playing these last three tournaments.
      Nobody ever played that well and then that BADLY within 2 months.

    • @travelowlnet
      @travelowlnet ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacks-back 1. I don't know anyone who says that MC vs HN was a particularly outstanding chess game. MC simply played badly.
      2. the history of chess is full of theoretical wins. There is a saying: The most difficult thing in chess is to win a won game ;-)
      3. i find many GMs often play completely different even during a tournament...so now i don't know why you think a GM can't have ups and downs within months. After all, they are human beings!
      4. for me personally it's not really a difference if someone misses a mate in 3 or 4 moves, or if he blunders a piece. According to your expectations, this should not happen to a GM either. Sorry, but the reality is different, especially in rapid chess or blitz.
      In general, I think it's good that MC has drawn attention to cheating in chess. BUT how he did it is for me absolutely unacceptable and unworthy of a world champion. This is just my personal opinion.

    • @DaaimShabazz
      @DaaimShabazz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacks-back You realize this is rapid and blitz, don't you? It's completely different. Carlsen is not unbeatable and he'll lose some in the Tata Steel tournament. He has lost to Niemann (twice), Gukesh, Erigaisi, Abdusattarov, Praggnanandhaa (five times). That is all in the last year. In blitz, a GM missed mate in one, and it wasn't in a time scramble. Kramnik missed mate in one in classical. It happens. Do you think in the history of chess, a person beating a world champion in classical, cannot lose badly at blitz? Niemann scored 12/21, which is a decent score. Yes... it is possible to play blitz badly, no matter who you are. You can sit there in the comfort of your home and judge a GM and explain what they should be able to do, but blitz is a different animal. As someone said, time pressure makes fools of us all, and blitz continues to fool us. Niemann is a legitimate 2700 in classical. His rapid and blitz ratings are lower. Nothing abnormal about it. I can assure you that there were many other players with worst misses than Hans, but of course, he is getting the spotlight shone on him.

  • @lutimstrickshots9253
    @lutimstrickshots9253 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The repetition claim speaks for itself.

  • @sleepysimon7282
    @sleepysimon7282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you look closely @3:31 you can see Hans stomach shaking slightly...

  • @octaviosalvatierra1389
    @octaviosalvatierra1389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dude Hans is really popular, his videos always have more views than almost anyone jajaja.

  • @vishnusharma2958
    @vishnusharma2958 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    When the engine suddenly stops!

  • @ordjk4797
    @ordjk4797 ปีที่แล้ว

    for someone who’s quite new to chess , what happened here ? i’m quite confused

    • @jamesfreeman8276
      @jamesfreeman8276 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of these guy beat another guy who is really good (the most good, actualy) a while ago by being really good in a game-- too good, almost. But here he does not play good, like not good, at all, because he could have made a simple move that was really good and beat the other guy in this game-which would have been good- but he didn't make that good move and made a not good move (some would even say... a bad move) and it makes you wonder how he beat the most good guy a while ago and played so good if he plays so not good like this-- maybe he even does not good things like cheat. Also, anal beads. Look into it.

  • @uc7953
    @uc7953 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    wtf was Maghsoodloo thinking with that move at 7:00

    • @k2boarding100
      @k2boarding100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hans's reaction here is priceless

    • @ng.tr.s.p.1254
      @ng.tr.s.p.1254 ปีที่แล้ว

      flexing

    • @tommik4872
      @tommik4872 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@k2boarding100 idk man for me this guy is insanely unwatchable. I have never seen a guy being this unlikable no matter what I do, the sheer arrogance radiating from this guy with the combination of his looks..I just can't lol

    • @lepatron6195
      @lepatron6195 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ng.tr.s.p.1254 flexing what? the fact that fat has begun to form around his brain making him retarded?

  • @lichade2008
    @lichade2008 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The battery on his vibrator ran out of power 🤨

  • @MarioLacunza
    @MarioLacunza ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Really? Niemann was disconnected or what?

  • @newmans_
    @newmans_ ปีที่แล้ว +35

    omg he just blundered a forced mate in 8:30 Be4 was clearly winning, he forgot to bring the stockfish i guess😂😂😂

    • @Inlanning
      @Inlanning ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A move very few would have seen in a blitz game if you don't look for a winning move.

    • @SpontaneityJD
      @SpontaneityJD ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@InlanningIt’s not that hard to see a short mating pattern when it begins with a check, especially for GMs.

    • @southstar9931
      @southstar9931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Inlanning I would expect a gm to find that sequence

    • @Chris.M
      @Chris.M ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8:29

    • @shangrila64
      @shangrila64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ugh, it's true! It seems to me, however, more serious not to see that he is winning in the final position.

  • @mtae5
    @mtae5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think I'll stop making fun of Hans now. I just feel bad. I guess he was right, the chess does speak for itself.

  • @mayanm7105
    @mayanm7105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bobby fisher is crying in the heavens.. You have White and a trapped/squeezed black king hiding under the carpet, and you miss Be4+. Moreover you call for draw. Its okay - Lets give Niemann sometime and emphatize with his state of mind- which want to force a draw for some reason

  • @IamHopers
    @IamHopers ปีที่แล้ว

    after mistake, bishop h5 was a move as well...

  • @Bartooc
    @Bartooc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How is he 2600???

    • @lucamalventi
      @lucamalventi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A good question for FIDE.

  • @yt-1161
    @yt-1161 ปีที่แล้ว

    @7:00 that reaction

  • @wolteamarda
    @wolteamarda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:54 the way she sits 😂

    • @ryuk5673
      @ryuk5673 ปีที่แล้ว

      scammer

  • @jpbccrn
    @jpbccrn ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not Bxh5 instead of a draw? Isn’t that winning?

  • @ShashankSingh-yi5vi
    @ShashankSingh-yi5vi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On a funnier side. This happens when you learn every chess rules by heart.

  • @jiggs8073
    @jiggs8073 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the proof we've been waiting for. Doesn't get any clearer than this. Magnus was right after all!

    • @Bladieblah
      @Bladieblah ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ?

    • @KnightToRemember
      @KnightToRemember ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wonder how many people saw Be4 and mate live without looking at the engine or the bar

    • @jacks-back
      @jacks-back ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YES!!! circumstantial evidence!!

  • @denysden6179
    @denysden6179 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:44... focus on Hikaru...LOL. No reaction?

  • @shankarguled7944
    @shankarguled7944 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wait, why isn't Magsoodoolu okay with the draw? They could have just agreed on the spot no?😂

    • @anantchirmade600
      @anantchirmade600 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You cant do that before a certain no of moves, thats why lot of players go for three fold repetition.

    • @michaelmcgee335
      @michaelmcgee335 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anantchirmade600 There were plenty of moves played in this game. Hans just fucked up that’s all.

    • @Ligatmarping
      @Ligatmarping ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I guess he thought he could win the game... missevaluating the position.

    • @anantchirmade600
      @anantchirmade600 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelmcgee335 he sure did

    • @christianbarnay2499
      @christianbarnay2499 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A threefold repetition is not an agreement between the players. It's a claim and it must be confirmed by an arbiter.
      They just applied the procedure.
      Niemann indicates to Magsoodoolu that he wants to play Qd1 and that it will create a threefold repetition, which means he has to call an arbiter to make the claim.
      Magsoodoolu can only acknowledge that.
      Niemann stops the clock and calls the arbiter.
      When the arbiter comes they explain the situation.
      The arbiter looks around for the nearest available spot to check the game history.
      They move to the control computer where the operator shows them the repetition.
      Once it's confirmed they return to the table to shake hands and close the game.

  • @donsurlylyte
    @donsurlylyte ปีที่แล้ว

    well, the batteries run out once in a while- if it happens in the middle of a game...

  • @higamato3811
    @higamato3811 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's such a shame seeing so many fools here slanderously accusing Niemann of cheating because he misses opportunities, while Maghsoodloo, #17 in the world and Elo-wise far ahead of Niemann, misses even greater opportunities and objects to a draw in a lost position, but nobody cares.

  • @normanlove222
    @normanlove222 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I need Levy to do a video explaining what happened. Until then I have no opinion.

    • @Dario_Salvi
      @Dario_Salvi ปีที่แล้ว

      seriously?

    • @wiawaysb
      @wiawaysb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what happened was under pressure he made a wrong decision to draw the game. it's wrong decision because he was winning. but he couldn't see the winning move and instead because of 3 fold repetition (3 same positions occuring in 1 game) you can ask for a draw, that's what he did. he drew a game that he could have won. that's actually what they talk about at the end. maghsoodloo tries to explain him that he was actually winning and didn't need to draw.

    • @CSRookie
      @CSRookie ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 possibly the greatest youtube comment in history

  • @nil0y912
    @nil0y912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe the battery died mid-game.

  • @badjaeaux
    @badjaeaux ปีที่แล้ว

    9:48 Guiness WR candidate for
    'World's most silent protest by a man
    who is not a person with hearing loss'

  • @wiawaysb
    @wiawaysb ปีที่แล้ว

    i guess maghsood could have drawn himself next turn but still pretty awkward decision to draw when you're winning. pressure gets to everyone...

  • @RySL66
    @RySL66 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No beads = no leads

  • @Riker-ER
    @Riker-ER ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Video no help to understand for me 🤔

    • @MrTheeduck2000
      @MrTheeduck2000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hate when there is no captions. So I can wear my headphones and listen to Bon Jovi while I watch chess and read the captions.

  • @Leokuma7
    @Leokuma7 ปีที่แล้ว

    His posture is different when he doesn't cheat. He looks more concentrated. Also when he cheats I find his mouth movements weird. I think it's something inside his mouth or throat.

  • @gregdavis1341
    @gregdavis1341 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hes definitely one strange cookie!

  • @backrankbasherchess7735
    @backrankbasherchess7735 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I heard the beads vibrate

  • @dougfoster445
    @dougfoster445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think he wanted to show some mercy to his opponent honestly...He knew he had it won. People are too hard on hans.

  • @gmcenroe
    @gmcenroe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The beaded white Bishop did not speak for itself with Be4! Instead Han spoke for a draw.

  • @marcusroberts7624
    @marcusroberts7624 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't think it was about claiming.
    Thought them were the rules?

  • @daniellinanmolina1044
    @daniellinanmolina1044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bro look at hans' face when parham sacks the exchange

  • @Gokuluku
    @Gokuluku ปีที่แล้ว

    why does he always seem like he doesnt care

  • @supersonico9364
    @supersonico9364 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess he was getting conflicting “vibrations” 😂

  • @Whatismyname146
    @Whatismyname146 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man goes from ending Magnus' 53 win streak as the lowest rated player at a tournement he was only invited to because someone dropped out, to claiming a draw in a winning game

    • @A99Diaz
      @A99Diaz ปีที่แล้ว

      Same could be said about Magnus. "Man goes from a 53 win streak to losing agains the lowest rated player of the tournament" Just proves how dumb your statement is.

    • @yusouph2002
      @yusouph2002 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Whatismyname146 it was an undefeated streak, not winning streak

    • @Whatismyname146
      @Whatismyname146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yusouph2002 Awesome