If you listen to the intro to Life After Death it's as if he's mocking Big death, the album dropped 2 weeks after his death how disrespectful is that. This man wasn't in the grave a good month before they started promoting an album off the back of his death
@@KeyngEpicand ever since .. puff been eating like 3 kings off bigs name, legacy, his music. Big owe ms. Wallace, Kim AND FAITH and bigs kids at least 50% of the Sean combs estate if not 75%. That's as sad as pun family living in shelters with nothing ...while fat Joe been sitting at the round table with the gawds of hip hop for yrs eating in trump towers off pun legacy.
“Who Shot Ya?” was originally recorded in 1994 with Keith Murray on the 2nd verse. It was recorded during the “Ready To Die” sessions but ultimately left off the album. A second verse by Biggie was recorded and Keith Murray was taken off it still in 1994. In February 1995, Puffy pulled up the track, recorded adlibs and released it as an alternative B-Side to special rereleases of the “Big Poppa/Warning” single, which had originally been released in ‘94. This information is for all those commenting that “Who Shot Ya?” was a Tupac diss! If anyone is to blame for this, it’s Puffy for releasing it to the world at the dumbest time possible… Peace!
That’s why most people understand where Tupac was coming from. It boggles my mind how some people can’t understand how pac gets shot then he hears a song (from someone he thought was his friend) called “who shot ya”….anybody would think that song is about them.
MC EIHT responded with so much validity and class. He does not blame anyone but instead he puts the whole situation into perspective. Ultimately, Biggie had a choice. He made a choice between his own life and his career. And chose the latter. RIP To both Tupac and Biggie.
Choice, You mean a subliminal ultimatum? A man is responsible for his own assassination because he dared visit a metropolitan area of about 18 million people including fans of his music? Nah, the man with the gun, shooting bullets into the car is Responsible for murdering a human being. Keefy was there and neck deep in both (instead of a cage where he should have been). The truth in there is… play gangster games, win gangster prizes; live and die by the (S)word; action/reaction. The all get Got, sooner or later.
Nothing you wrote changes the fact, if Pac didn't lie, none of this would've happened. Biggie would not have had to worry about coming to LA if Pac didn't lie. Pac acted like an idiot and got people killed. Did it to himself also.
Diddy encouraged him to promote his album in Los Angeles during their feud with Pac. Diddy wanted it to look like Biggie’s death was retaliation for Pac.
I appreciate MC Eiht's perspective. Let's all remember how young everyone involved was. Biggie and Tupac died in their early 20s. Puffy and Suge were also super young making uninformed decisions. Eiht is speaking from the perspective of a man who has had the opportunity to age and mature.
No.. he died cos of ego. Biggie's whole schtick was kicking someone when they down and not a threat. He released who shot ya to taunt pac in jail.. pac destroyed him on hit em up.. big only responded with long kiss goodnight after pac died. Thats weak af. He was a grown ass man, he could have said nope.. not going. What would puff had done.. nothing - thats his star artist. Dont blame another man for your actions
The east coast west coast beef started with Tim Dog when he dissed the West Coast with F Compton. However the beef with Deathrow vs Badboy escalated it pretty much
Regardless of who, what, why, when, and/or where, two black men got killed over some bull$hit. Two black men who could/would have made not only a lasting impact on their communities, but also on the world. RIP PAC & BIG!!! YOU HEARD!!
What lasting impact? 2Pac was a negative influence on the community. Biggie’s music was not a positive influence either although rumour was he had plans to move away from that ghetto fab gangster style of music.
Pac and Big both died from youthful arrogance…we’ve all been in situations to where our arrogance put us in a bad situation unfortunately those two didn’t make it out to learn from it
2Pac was at the VMAs in NYC a day or two before he got shot in Vegas. Nobody wants to show fear b/c they don't want to show weakness...but yeah often times there's a price to pay for that.
I’ll buy that for Tupac but not in Biggie’s case. Biggie NEVER wanted to go to LA at that time, everyone around him at that time has expressed in countless interviews that Biggie didn’t wanna go and didn’t feel comfortable going but Puffy really pressed him about going even though they were actually supposed to be headed to London. So I wouldn’t chalk BIG’s thing to arrogance, I would say his mistake was still “trusting” Puffy at that point even though Puff was f’n him out of his money
I just listened to a Pac interview with Vibe and he straight up said he was mad at Biggie because all these rap guys were there and nobody gave him information on what happened. He ask "how can you call yourself the king of NY but not have connections to give answers for what happened" That shit makes perfect sense. I don't think Pac mentioned Biggie much or at all on Makaveli, he dissed Nas and Puffy on multiple songs. So how did Pac lie?
So what, that doesn't mean Pac should act like an asswhole to Biggie about it. If Biggie didn't know, then he didn't know ohwell. We All know Biggie would said something he knew come on man even if hated someone and knew they were going to get set up I would warn them I mean what the kind of human being did Pac take Biggie for? That's messed up and petty af.
It's frigging NY it's dangerous place to live back then that stuff happened all day every day it even happened to Mase by Big L brother dude over a watch like 🤷 don't walk around NY like a jewelry princess commonsense
Pac knew who shot him and was ready to do it again, that was one of the reason he deflected it on biggie and puff and was scared and paranoid while he was in NY he never went at them like he did when he was 3000 miles away,🤷♂
Biggie came to LA and dissed Pac on the radio after Pac's death. He freestyled the song Long Kiss Goodnight. That was a diss on Pac. I don't know why people don't say anything about that. He came and poured fuel on the fire. Ice Tea is the only one I heard that mentioned that.
People will say that wasn’t towards Pac but I believe that was towards Pac especially since it was released after his Death either that or Biggy is the worst at releasing Songs after something happened to 2Pac,similar to how Who Shot Ya song was released after 2Pac got shot the first time,they said it was made before the incident but for some reason I felt it was towards Pac too
I’m in total agreement with Eight on this one. The people that made the decision for Big to go out to Cali when they did are who’s responsible for Bigs death. Not Tupac. Big should’ve known better as well. He also should’ve known better to go around freestyling Long Kiss Goodnight while giving interviews on the radio stations out there. That’s just rubbing salt in the wound if you ask me. He might’ve gotten out of LA alive if he would’ve went out there on a more respectful tip and been more humble about it all. Just my opinion on it.
He was out in LA for a minute tho. They thought they were untouchable with body guards and etc. he was the biggest rapper at the time. It was months after. I will agree that he shouldn’t have gone. There’s a guy named big Gene. That talked about how the main hit was for p diddy then they decided to get biggie.
At the end of the day there were mistakes made by both parties. It's sad, because hip hop was at it's apex with every region participating, but unfortunately as great as that era was, there will always be a shadow cast over it, because of both men dying. The issue could have been resolved if both men were to have sat down behind closed doors, just the two of them and talked it out. RIP Pac and RIP Big.
Exactly. If Puff let Big know when Pac got to Quad Studios then that to me is it right there Pac and Big both talk and ask you good? Then they work it out freestyle rap together.😮 It don't concern nobody else.
@Mysterwright I'm confused, is rap real or is it just a shtick? How do you "freestyle rap" together after:"you claim to be a player, but I effed your wife"?
To be fair to Biggie , I heard he tried to warn Pac about hanging around Jimmy, King Tut, Haitian Jack and the rest and Pac went and told them what Biggie said. Can’t really blame Biggie for keeping quiet after that.
@@melo7969right alotta times niggas be thinking rappers are tougher than they really are..That frank white shit was entertainment.Henchman and Jack and them were really the niggas niggas used to try to portray
I think the whole situation was a BIG misunderstanding. What was misinformation became truth in the eyes of others because nobody wanted to tell the truth and because of that Pac and Biggie are gone.
Pac Knew Biggie didn't set him up in Quad. Biggie had warned him earlier to stay away from them dudes so he had Pac's best interest and Pac Knew that. Nobody is going to come out and admit Pac was wrong for that. There's too many double standards here, "Biggie shouldn't have been out here etc". Acting like it's blasphemy to call out Pac on anything but you stay slandering Big. Pac wasn't God.
Pac never said Big set him up, he said Big was aware of the set up that's what I saw in an interview. His thing was Biggie was supposed to warn him as his homeboy. That's it.
They both knew their time to leave this earth was near. The album covers were significant too. In my honest opinion, Tupac and Biggie were set up and deleted 6 months apart. There are truths and lies in several individuals' stories from interviews. It amazes me how quiet the industry becomes when incidents like this take place. It's sad that not one but two great talented young men gone too soon. 😢💔🙏🏽
Eiht is so spot on. Common sense isn’t so common nowadays or even then. Block was hot. Pac’s death wound was still fresh. BIG should’ve stay home recuperating. No trips period!
@@fizzywomack6178 True but that was all Puff putting that out with the bad timing and all. I really believe BIG had no control over that. A song he had done over 6 months prior. That was all Puff.
Of course 50 year old MC Eiht would say he wouldn't have went out into hostile territory while beef was brewing, but 25 year old MC Eiht would've said the exact opposite.
From my understanding Biggie was later informed details regarding the quad shooting but it seemed Biggie was put in a tough situation; he could tell Pac everything he heard regarding the quad setup which would be traitorous to his NY people, or he could be disloyal to his friend Pac by not telling Pac what he heard regarding the setup. Biggie chose the latter.
Facts. And that's all pac was trying to tell people. If you are the king of nyc. Tell me what u know. People forgot biggie was the one who started the beef.
@@gdc6153 he didnt use big as a scape goat lol he just threw big into the fire as well, he dissed the niggas who was behind it as well, pac just liked to beef, thats what led to his demise
Diddy had a hit out on Pac ,so Suge did the same to Big. Unfortunately and coincidentally, Pac attacked his hit-man inside MGM Grand and died as a result. Biggie going to L.A. just 6 months later was a fatal mistake. Him going to the radio station in L.A. doing songs that dissed a dead man wasn't smart either. RIP Makaveli The Don
Wrong. Puffy put the hit out on biggie. Suge was lock up during the time biggie died. Puffy hade to make biggie death a east coast vs west Coast beef . After he put a hit out on Suge and pac . Puffy is the only one profit on biggie death .
I don’t believe Puffy had a hit on Tupac and if he did that’s not what killed him. He was a rapper messing with a gang banger who was about that life. That’s what killed him.
@@Frugal637 Puffy(according to Keefe D) offered him 1 mill to "make this Suge and 2pac problem go away..." By now with all the death threats Puffy and them were getting from Suge, Pac and his crew- I believe Puffy got concerned and scared for his life. So he hired south side Compton crips to act as extra security against Suges MOB piru bloods. Apparently it got to a point were Puffy wanted to get rid of these dudes, so he offered 1 mil and Keefe D and crew answered the call. FF to Las Vegas Mike Tyson fight Sept 7. Suge, Pac and them and Keefe D with Orlando and others went down there too to see the fight. I think Keefe said that they had just came to see the fight, but then Pac and them jumped Orlando in the MGM. And they decided to go ahead a seize that opportunity to pop them. They knew they were gonna be at club 662 so they rode there and waited. Pac and them didn't go to 662 right away, they went back to the hotel, changed clothes and stuff. Reggie wright Jr had that whole change with security not having weapons and Pac rode with Suge on they way to 662. Keefe said they went to a store to get some to snack on I guess, cuz Pac and them wasn't at 662 yet. Got back on the strip, heard groupies and fans yelling Pac this and that, and saw that the car was indeed filled with Pac and Suge. Perfect for a drive-by. They rode up to the passenger side and Orlando fired 💥💥💥💥💥 and sped off. Security in another car tried chasing but lost them. Keefe said later after the news hit, puff called and asked was that them? As in, was that Keefe who shot them? I fully believe Puff put out the hit. Now, BIG? Idk. Suge getting revenge on Puff makes sense, but then you got the Muslim dude and all these other theories....so idk.
I feel Biggie only went to Cali to prove his innocence not just to promote his album and I think he under estimated the love ppl had for Pac 5:45 wish Biggie had this mentality foreal
@@miker4671Speak for yourself, cause you don't speak for me, or every show he headlined when he was alive. You're young, obviously or you're an ignorant MF on the West Coast. Talking out of your ass for a period you weren't around.
I know BIG had went to the hospital to see Pac after he was shot but Pac had checked himself out already.....i wish he would have went to see him while Pac was upstate on that b.s conviction....i feel like they would have been able to sort everything out especially because Pac was 100% sober, which would of made it easier to talk to him. If BIG had done that then that would have changed everything. Im a die hard Pac fan, all the way until i die...but in my heart i never felt BIG had any knowledge of the shooting prior to it happening, i believe creamPuff knew but he wouldn't have told BIG because BIG wasnt that grimey type. Its all tragic, like deeply tragic.
By the time Pac got shipped to prison, word had already spread that he threw Big and Puff under the bus in that vibe interview. So at that point why bother?
@@juliostevens9480Nah, it was too late because Bigg had signed a contract and Creamy had given him a bull crap advance. Pac tried to warn Bigg about signing with Creamy like Bigg was trying to warn him about Jack.
@@slystally9874 Facts. Biggie would have been dropped eventually. Same thing for PAC, if he was not shot and killed in Vegas eventually he would have been gunned down as well over time.
Biggie didn’t set up Pac. But he knew Henchman and his goons. PAC was mad biggie didn’t warn him and also biggie didn’t say anything after the shooting. From biggies perspective, if he told, he would have been snitching and his life would have been in danger too.
And you are assuming that BIG knew beforehand. Why cause Pac said so🤦🏾♂ FOH 2Pac fanboy. Plus BIG warned Pac to watch the company he keeps Mike Tyson and others as well. But the ballerina didn't listen, and he thought he actually was the thug he portrayed himself to be. And BIG went to see Pac aright after at the hospital.
Wasnt it already said thay Big was reluctant to go and asked several people for second opinions? Didnt they say puffy prssured him into going and was acting like he knew something the night of the tragedy?
@@daddyrareman Biggie got killed for nothing. They knew Biggie leaving would hurt their pockets so they killed Biggie to collect insurance and royalties from Life After Death. But look what happened two years later in 1999, Puffy did something that put Clive Davis out of commission at Arista. Puffy ended up signing a new distribution deal with Universal anyway.
Well when jimmy henchman and puffy were in one studio big and junior mafia are in another studio all in the same building it’s kinda hard to believe at the least puffy knew cause he was there with henchman who admitted to the setup.. There’s a video of jimmy and puffy walking out of the building together after the shooting and jimmy tried to hide his face when he saw the camera
It's crazy how many West Coast dudes are starting to go with that narrative now. I'm starting to wonder if any of these dudes actually had any love for Pac. It's like they all are trying to stay in somebody's good graces.
2PAC wanted out Death Row just as Biggie wanted out of Bad Boys. Both murders where internal. Both artist's wanted to branch out and do there own thing. 2pac didn't want to go the Vegas, and Biggie didn't want to L.A.
Pac got murdered by Orlando Anderson because he helped jump Orlando when Suge and his boys jumped Orlando. They caught Pac in traffic and laid him down. Simple revenge shit Big got killed thru a hit set up by Suge. It's a documentary with police intel that talks about it
Like he said, because Pac was so vocal and brutal in speech, he was able to get people to believe any and damn near everything he said. There was indeed many people in LA that believed and rode for Pac regardless of the truths involved. LA is a point system gang culture, one of ours is gone, let's take one of they'res.
If your homie don't pick you up at the airport on the way to the studio, after being invited there in the first place, or try to tip you off that you are going to be robbed if you show up, or doesn't visit you after you were shot 9 times, it's safe to say he has something to do with it and from that point on he will be considered and treated like an Op.
That is strange to me because from what I understand, Biggie had to a photoshoot for the Life After Death album cover in January 1997 so he really didn't get to L.A. until February.
Nobody ever talks about Big doing that freestyle from Long Kiss Good Night, in which he sneak disses Pac, as the reason Big was killed. I heard it angered people around LA because they felt he was coming at Pac, who was dead. Maybe his disrespect caused him death.
Big Pooch told his whole family that Puff paid them off to handle BIG, word got back to the streets that Pooch was opening his mouth & then he got killed in prison not so long after ...
And yout dumb as Hell if u believe the plan to kill Biggie was based on that freestyle. Like honestly, you guys should be embarrassed to be this stupid
MC Eiht is funny AF. He basically agreed & confirmed what Clark Kent said without realizing it. 😂 Yes it was a hit, payback for Pac. Plain & simple. One doesn't happen without the other and it all stems from PAC & Suge going at Bad Boy because of the Quad robbery/shooting!
Naw Suge and Puff was beefing before that. Puff bodyguard kill Suge homeboy at a party. Pac just aligned himself with Suge to get out of jail, Protection, and they had the same beef. Suge been trying to get Puff. That Biggie hit may have even been intended for Puff. They caught Biggie instead. On top of that they had all types of warnings and was running with the Crips. It’s deep.
Wrong. Pac was just lying to justify attacking Big. He knew who did it immediately when his boys who were closer to him than Big told him. He didn't really have questions for Big.
Agreed. I’ve stated similar on different video clip. It’s crazy how many pushing that narrative. When have street thugs/hitters ever cared about a diss song? LOL
Whenever OG speaks,listen and take his word for face value. MC Eiht is as solid as they come. He made it through the height of some terrible times in LA. The early 80's - the late 90's was treacherous.
But a week before Pac got shot, Biggie was telling him about the potential situation which was the shooting and that's why Tupac knew Biggie knew exactly what was going on. Maybe Biggie was just careful because those guys might have came after him too if he tried to help Tupac. But Pac never said Big set him up and Pac never lied on no one.
@@maazi.naaniya9158 Tupac knew and stated that Biggie doesn't have that much power to pull that off. Pac tried to reach Big to gain understanding of what he was talking about before they shot him and Biggie wasn't trying to have that sit down. Y'all make that nigga bigger than he is, this is not about Biggie" says Tupac in a interview.
Exactly! And he just talked around the question. If Pac didn’t start the shit wit Big it wouldn’t been no beef and he could’ve went to LA whenever he wanted
@@jedimasteryoda1282 What does who shot ya have to do with pac thinking big knew about the setup? Pac knew what that shit was about and who was responsible but he wanted to profit off the situation.
It's my opinion, Puffy turned Biggie over to his enemies. I don't think Puffy directly put the hit on Biggie, but he knew who wanted to get at Biggie and worked it out with them that he'd put Biggie in their sight to get at him. They put the stickers on the tires as a marker and let Biggie's enemies do their evil.
Both pac and biggie were dealing with real gangsters and were both in over their heads with that. Both rappers got murdered and the gangsters kept it pushing.
Exactly, some of these fan boys don't realize there are cats who are street goons 24×7. They don't care about your records, only what they can get you for, and unfortunately, these 2 guys paid with their lives.
Biggie wasn’t afraid of coming to L. A. He knew that but diddy wanted him set up in Californi. Ba Big said plenty of times let’s go overseas puff I got another show to do but puffy was stalling procrastinating, and kept biggie there until the mission was completed Allegedly 😮 RIP Big n’ Pac 🥲
Definitely both will be legends but pac had that super star aura that would have went for ever and that's why people get so mad that he couldn't do it to survive.
You've answered your own question. You don't have to wonder what would have happened if Death Row and Bad Boy had more positive influences, because they simply wouldn't have been killed in the first place if the influences were positive.
Big got killed because he came to LA, he tried to prove he wasn't scared to come to LA and that got him killed💯 what people fail to realize biggie smalls have been out here for 2 weeks after 2:00 got killed promoting his album and he did that freestyle on the radio live Low-key dissing pac that's what put the fuel on the fire and he got killed like a week later at those awards
Let's talk about how Pac supposedly went back and told the cats what Biggie had said about them, when he was trying to warn Pac about hanging around them.
Let's not forget when Pac was robbed. Biggie was wearing his cross necklace and ordered shots on music video shoot in New York. Everyone has distorted memory . Biggie always threw rocks and hid his hand
@@megmichelle5832Biggie was NEVER seen wearing Pacs jewelry anywhere, that's a lie and when Biggie called the radio station that was after all the back and forth had started going on, so by that time I don't blame him one bit for what he did.. THEY WERE AT WAR 🤷🏾♂️
He was absolutely right. If Pac never would’ve said anything about biggie knowing about his shooting, none of the following events would’ve transpired. No hit em up, no Suge source awards, no stand off at the MTV Awards, nothing. All this starts with Pac and his personal issues. He’s the root of the problem. He’s the reason he’s dead and the reason Big died. End of story. It could’ve all been avoided but he had to push the issue
He kind of twisted the question. It wasn't whether someone killed Biggie for setting up Tupac, it was whether that narrative led to the beef that resulted in Biggie's death
@@josh-kf2rdit was already a beef between suge and puffy when wolf killed suge's homie. And puffy was a snake pac didn't like him either before he even joined deathrow.
@@josh-kf2rd I didn't say pac and big. I said suge and puffy. And pac already didn't like puffy. Pac and big beef was pac felt like biggie kept tryna send him hints and not tell him wtf happen to him when he knew what happen
@@imbsmit this whole thing is about how Pac's beef with BIG ultimately led to BIG being associated with his death in a lot of people's minds and people out west not liking him, not Suge and Puffy.
Listen to the Angie Martinez interview. Pac was all over the place when Angie asked him straight up if he thought Big set him up. He wasnt credible, he was mad at his man Big who he thought possibly knew about it and the whole beef got out of his control and blown up in the media so he just ran with it instead of doing a 180 publicly, maybe he felt it was good for his career at the time...
And according to Gene Deal, Puffy basically forced Big to come to LA. Biggie actually wanted his Publishing so he obeyed Puffy and did everything he was saying. Puffy even forced Biggie to go to that Vibe party where he got shot.
Puff lined up biggie and DEFINITELY tried to line mase (using brandy sneaky a$$ as a conduit)..but Mase probably had a hunch and that's why he still here....puff going down amd not like how he likes to..brandy will be caight up soon.
Nope. He said that at the time he had a lot of things going on in his personal life, so he didn't have time to focus so much on Pac's death. But LA ninjas wanted him to be all boohooohooo for Pac. He gave respect to Pac, saying "duke was strong" but unfortunately, Pac had tarnished his reputation on the west coast, so he wasn't super sad for Pac.
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Puffy pushed Big to go to LA. Big didn't want to go. Puff killed Big.
The Japanese news said puffy got him clean up dor publishing after the death
If you listen to the intro to Life After Death it's as if he's mocking Big death, the album dropped 2 weeks after his death how disrespectful is that. This man wasn't in the grave a good month before they started promoting an album off the back of his death
@@KeyngEpicvalid point
Exactly
@@KeyngEpicand ever since .. puff been eating like 3 kings off bigs name, legacy, his music. Big owe ms. Wallace, Kim AND FAITH and bigs kids at least 50% of the Sean combs estate if not 75%. That's as sad as pun family living in shelters with nothing ...while fat Joe been sitting at the round table with the gawds of hip hop for yrs eating in trump towers off pun legacy.
“Who Shot Ya?” was originally recorded in 1994 with Keith Murray on the 2nd verse. It was recorded during the “Ready To Die” sessions but ultimately left off the album. A second verse by Biggie was recorded and Keith Murray was taken off it still in 1994. In February 1995, Puffy pulled up the track, recorded adlibs and released it as an alternative B-Side to special rereleases of the “Big Poppa/Warning” single, which had originally been released in ‘94. This information is for all those commenting that “Who Shot Ya?” was a Tupac diss! If anyone is to blame for this, it’s Puffy for releasing it to the world at the dumbest time possible… Peace!
That’s why most people understand where Tupac was coming from. It boggles my mind how some people can’t understand how pac gets shot then he hears a song (from someone he thought was his friend) called “who shot ya”….anybody would think that song is about them.
God bless you; unfortunately many Tupac fans are incapable of accepting or understanding this fact.
FAAACTS! Puff seen dollar signs and an opportunity to get his label off the floor. Snake move.
Pac was shot in 94
I'm gonna research this, I never knew this. This was always my argument to the pac shooting even when I didn't believe big had anything to do with it.
MC EIHT responded with so much validity and class. He does not blame anyone but instead he puts the whole situation into perspective. Ultimately, Biggie had a choice. He made a choice between his own life and his career. And chose the latter.
RIP To both Tupac and Biggie.
Choice, You mean a subliminal ultimatum?
A man is responsible for his own assassination because he dared visit a metropolitan area of about 18 million people including fans of his music?
Nah, the man with the gun, shooting bullets into the car is Responsible for murdering a human being.
Keefy was there and neck deep in both (instead of a cage where he should have been).
The truth in there is… play gangster games, win gangster prizes; live and die by the (S)word; action/reaction.
The all get Got, sooner or later.
nah puffy set him up like the rest puffy is a fed
MC Eiht speaks in a manner only a really smart OG can muster. Pure facts.
He sounds like he ain't from the streets he sounds like pure hate he always hated on pac cause pac came to Cali and took what he never could clame
Nothing you wrote changes the fact, if Pac didn't lie, none of this would've happened. Biggie would not have had to worry about coming to LA if Pac didn't lie. Pac acted like an idiot and got people killed. Did it to himself also.
He ain't say nothing wrong this whole interview....much respect to this dude
Mc Eiht delivered a really powerful message right there ! All the youngsters need to hear a message like that !
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hard interview bless up mc Eiht truth
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Diddy encouraged him to promote his album in Los Angeles during their feud with Pac. Diddy wanted it to look like Biggie’s death was retaliation for Pac.
Facts
U pookies know everything dontcha 😂😂
@@Zee-yh4ow I’m only spreading what your mom told me
Biggies death was because of pac lol there was a hit from Cali and I’m sure puffy knew of the hit
That’s why everything is happening now to Puff
Yes he would be alive if Suge and Diddy weren't at war.
That part
That’s your opinion
True facts
Yall see where kim pplorter sister jxus did a video blaming didy 4 biggie an 2pac death if yall havent go check it out
Over a female..smh
“If it’s a lie, then we fight on that lie”
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The Wire
Stupidest shit I ever heard
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Piggie would still be alive if not for puff, point blank and dj klark Kent is a cock sucka race trader
As he was talking, I thought about that same line
Man my best friend who I have not talked to in a while loved that line. I look it up on TH-cam every once in awhile
I appreciate MC Eiht's perspective. Let's all remember how young everyone involved was. Biggie and Tupac died in their early 20s. Puffy and Suge were also super young making uninformed decisions. Eiht is speaking from the perspective of a man who has had the opportunity to age and mature.
Everyone forgets how young and inexperienced they all were.
Big died because of Puff. Puff had him out there thinking it was sweet
No.. he died cos of ego. Biggie's whole schtick was kicking someone when they down and not a threat. He released who shot ya to taunt pac in jail.. pac destroyed him on hit em up.. big only responded with long kiss goodnight after pac died. Thats weak af. He was a grown ass man, he could have said nope.. not going. What would puff had done.. nothing - thats his star artist. Dont blame another man for your actions
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They left Mase in hotel room with 70 gangbangers in hallway in LA
@@cliftonbenderman5752 so did Mase get gangbanged.. take dat, take dat
Didnt think it was he set him up go look at the pics of biggies last night he was very uncomfortable
The east coast west coast beef started with Tim Dog when he dissed the West Coast with F Compton. However the beef with Deathrow vs Badboy escalated it pretty much
Mc Eiht has really matured! Preach Mc Eiht . The streets are taken lives each and every day.
Taking.
@@lmaoyourekiddingme ty
BIGGIE AND TUPAC'S DEATH HURT US ALL VERY DEEPLY,AND WE STILL DON'T REALLY KNOW.😔
Yes we do. You don't.
@@BigSi-xw6wvright! 😂
Tupac did fucc piggies the Westcoast was not bother by it
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Not after 30 years tho!!! Cmon man. Cmon. (Pause)
The simple stuff in life is what you should cherish 💯
Realest thing said in this video
Exactly ❤
If only brothers had that mentality at 25 instead of 50.
Facts
So true 💯
I’ve been waiting for a nigga to say this shit for years!!!!! My nigga Eiht told the real much love and Respect!!!!!
Regardless of who, what, why, when, and/or where, two black men got killed over some bull$hit. Two black men who could/would have made not only a lasting impact on their communities, but also on the world. RIP PAC & BIG!!! YOU HEARD!!
It's their own people that be killing them
A lot more than two...
It wasn’t Really bs tho. Tupac got robbed and shot. That’s some serious shit. They thought they were gang members when they weren’t
What lasting impact? 2Pac was a negative influence on the community.
Biggie’s music was not a positive influence either although rumour was he had plans to move away from that ghetto fab gangster style of music.
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Pac and Big both died from youthful arrogance…we’ve all been in situations to where our arrogance put us in a bad situation unfortunately those two didn’t make it out to learn from it
2Pac was at the VMAs in NYC a day or two before he got shot in Vegas. Nobody wants to show fear b/c they don't want to show weakness...but yeah often times there's a price to pay for that.
💯 True and Unfortunate.
I hope they solve Biggies case there is too much holes in it
@steelpipetv2073 It won't be cause the ones who set it up carried it out are the same ones who are sworn to protect and serve allegedly, not alleged.
I’ll buy that for Tupac but not in Biggie’s case. Biggie NEVER wanted to go to LA at that time, everyone around him at that time has expressed in countless interviews that Biggie didn’t wanna go and didn’t feel comfortable going but Puffy really pressed him about going even though they were actually supposed to be headed to London.
So I wouldn’t chalk BIG’s thing to arrogance, I would say his mistake was still “trusting” Puffy at that point even though Puff was f’n him out of his money
Bro. That's the most honest and real opinion I've heard about this situation.
The refusal to use common sense and appreciate self preservation, has led to the demise of many people.
I got love for 2pac and biggie.I really wish this beef ever happen
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Tupac number 1
Me to bro.........I hate that beef sh>>>> It's cornyyyyyyy!!! From Your Boy Poorhouzzzzzzz SALUTE
@@poorhouz5051 you sound like a Lil Jay fanatic.
I just listened to a Pac interview with Vibe and he straight up said he was mad at Biggie because all these rap guys were there and nobody gave him information on what happened. He ask "how can you call yourself the king of NY but not have connections to give answers for what happened" That shit makes perfect sense. I don't think Pac mentioned Biggie much or at all on Makaveli, he dissed Nas and Puffy on multiple songs. So how did Pac lie?
So what, that doesn't mean Pac should act like an asswhole to Biggie about it. If Biggie didn't know, then he didn't know ohwell. We All know Biggie would said something he knew come on man even if hated someone and knew they were going to get set up I would warn them I mean what the kind of human being did Pac take Biggie for? That's messed up and petty af.
It's frigging NY it's dangerous place to live back then that stuff happened all day every day it even happened to Mase by Big L brother dude over a watch like 🤷 don't walk around NY like a jewelry princess commonsense
Pac knew who shot him and was ready to do it again, that was one of the reason he deflected it on biggie and puff and was scared and paranoid while he was in NY he never went at them like he did when he was 3000 miles away,🤷♂
Biggie came to LA and dissed Pac on the radio after Pac's death. He freestyled the song Long Kiss Goodnight. That was a diss on Pac. I don't know why people don't say anything about that. He came and poured fuel on the fire. Ice Tea is the only one I heard that mentioned that.
Yep
Wise statement.
People will say that wasn’t towards Pac but I believe that was towards Pac especially since it was released after his Death either that or Biggy is the worst at releasing Songs after something happened to 2Pac,similar to how Who Shot Ya song was released after 2Pac got shot the first time,they said it was made before the incident but for some reason I felt it was towards Pac too
@@redscorpion9325 They planned that. They didn't think that it would be repercussions.
Him just showing up in LA was dissing Pac
I’m in total agreement with Eight on this one. The people that made the decision for Big to go out to Cali when they did are who’s responsible for Bigs death. Not Tupac. Big should’ve known better as well. He also should’ve known better to go around freestyling Long Kiss Goodnight while giving interviews on the radio stations out there. That’s just rubbing salt in the wound if you ask me. He might’ve gotten out of LA alive if he would’ve went out there on a more respectful tip and been more humble about it all. Just my opinion on it.
He was out in LA for a minute tho. They thought they were untouchable with body guards and etc. he was the biggest rapper at the time. It was months after. I will agree that he shouldn’t have gone. There’s a guy named big Gene. That talked about how the main hit was for p diddy then they decided to get biggie.
@@ejakathebeast Yeah I’ve heard Gene Deal tell that story a few times.
but the issue wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for Pac blaming Biggie for him being shot the first time
@@ejakathebeast could you share that video?
@@CPMUNSEY but I do agree it’s a dumb ass move to be in LA
MC Eiht just earned my respect. What a message.
At the end of the day there were mistakes made by both parties. It's sad, because hip hop was at it's apex with every region participating, but unfortunately as great as that era was, there will always be a shadow cast over it, because of both men dying. The issue could have been resolved if both men were to have sat down behind closed doors, just the two of them and talked it out. RIP Pac and RIP Big.
Exactly. If Puff let Big know when Pac got to Quad Studios then that to me is it right there Pac and Big both talk and ask you good? Then they work it out freestyle rap together.😮 It don't concern nobody else.
But it all started with 2Pac’s lie.. and I’m a huge 2Pac fan I’m just not a stan.
Gene Deal said there was supposed to be a meeting but Puff ignored it as if it was nothing.
@Mysterwright I'm confused, is rap real or is it just a shtick? How do you "freestyle rap" together after:"you claim to be a player, but I effed your wife"?
@@Nikki-kh8ttI agree
To be fair to Biggie , I heard he tried to warn Pac about hanging around Jimmy, King Tut, Haitian Jack and the rest and Pac went and told them what Biggie said.
Can’t really blame Biggie for keeping quiet after that.
That's lies
Nah, Big, even got robbed by Jimmy and them after that. But Big dying had nothing to do with Pac and Quad.
I heard that was a lie. Only NY niggas tell that lie, they also say Pac shot himself when doctors say otherwise.
@@melo7969right alotta times niggas be thinking rappers are tougher than they really are..That frank white shit was entertainment.Henchman and Jack and them were really the niggas niggas used to try to portray
Yeah that's not true at all
Much Respect to MC Eight
I think the whole situation was a BIG misunderstanding. What was misinformation became truth in the eyes of others because nobody wanted to tell the truth and because of that Pac and Biggie are gone.
So they both stupid
@@BigDawg-oh4hb😂😂
Pac Knew Biggie didn't set him up in Quad. Biggie had warned him earlier to stay away from them dudes so he had Pac's best interest and Pac Knew that. Nobody is going to come out and admit Pac was wrong for that. There's too many double standards here, "Biggie shouldn't have been out here etc". Acting like it's blasphemy to call out Pac on anything but you stay slandering Big. Pac wasn't God.
Pac should've got his facts right before jumping out the window! Just like how he thought nas was dissing him!
Pac never said Big set him up, he said Big was aware of the set up that's what I saw in an interview. His thing was Biggie was supposed to warn him as his homeboy. That's it.
They both knew their time to leave this earth was near. The album covers were significant too. In my honest opinion, Tupac and Biggie were set up and deleted 6 months apart. There are truths and lies in several individuals' stories from interviews. It amazes me how quiet the industry becomes when incidents like this take place. It's sad that not one but two great talented young men gone too soon. 😢💔🙏🏽
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You ever heard the phrase "Your worth more dead than you are alive" lol it's Hollywood it's all a setup
If that's the case every nigga in America feels that 😂
I dont think Biggie thought it was his time to leave the earth? What for? Biggie had issues with Diddy, not Tupac.
Absolutely 👍🏽
Eiht is so spot on. Common sense isn’t so common nowadays or even then. Block was hot. Pac’s death wound was still fresh. BIG should’ve stay home recuperating. No trips period!
“If Biggie never got on that Plane to LA, would he have still been Alive” that’s facts and most definitely💯💯
“The simple shit in life, is what you should cherish.” 🙏🏾
He knew who was behind it
Pac knew who was behind it
And so did Pac but decided to go at Biggie as a scapegoat.
@@roxxylala26who shot ya has entered the chat
@@fizzywomack6178 True but that was all Puff putting that out with the bad timing and all. I really believe BIG had no control over that. A song he had done over 6 months prior. That was all Puff.
@@roxxylala26 exactlllyy
"Nga please ,Eiht finna be at the crib"!! And that's why, the legendary Mc Eiht, is still with us!!
Biggie and Tupac are gone because of Diddy and Suge. 😢
Facts
Play on the music label
You think so?
Of course 50 year old MC Eiht would say he wouldn't have went out into hostile territory while beef was brewing, but 25 year old MC Eiht would've said the exact opposite.
Was thinking the same thing! We old now😂
Don’t say that because it don’t matter the age of you scared you ain’t going it don’t matter what age
Na, people was saying it at the time. People was saying that they should never go to LA...ever.
Na but 25 yr old eight ain't a NY nigga fuckin around in GANGLAND..
dont matter how old you are. You know not to go to enemy territory
Puff didn't protect Biggie
he didnt protect himself
He set him up with no protection
From my understanding Biggie was later informed details regarding the quad shooting but it seemed Biggie was put in a tough situation; he could tell Pac everything he heard regarding the quad setup which would be traitorous to his NY people, or he could be disloyal to his friend Pac by not telling Pac what he heard regarding the setup. Biggie chose the latter.
Facts. And that's all pac was trying to tell people. If you are the king of nyc. Tell me what u know. People forgot biggie was the one who started the beef.
Were you there? Ppl got bunch of theories
@@travisgang17no Tupac started it talking reckless but then Biggie added fuel by releasing who shot ya, that song should have never been aired.
From my understanding Pac knew who was behind it yet he chose to use BIG as a scapegoat
@@gdc6153 he didnt use big as a scape goat lol he just threw big into the fire as well, he dissed the niggas who was behind it as well, pac just liked to beef, thats what led to his demise
Diddy had a hit out on Pac ,so Suge did the same to Big. Unfortunately and coincidentally, Pac attacked his hit-man inside MGM Grand and died as a result. Biggie going to L.A. just 6 months later was a fatal mistake. Him going to the radio station in L.A. doing songs that dissed a dead man wasn't smart either. RIP Makaveli The Don
Wrong. Puffy put the hit out on biggie. Suge was lock up during the time biggie died. Puffy hade to make biggie death a east coast vs west Coast beef . After he put a hit out on Suge and pac . Puffy is the only one profit on biggie death .
I don’t believe Puffy had a hit on Tupac and if he did that’s not what killed him. He was a rapper messing with a gang banger who was about that life. That’s what killed him.
@@Frugal637Puff was hanging with the people that killed Pac. It was a hit, that's why the DR chain got snatched in the mall.
@@pleasecheese803puff got some west coast guys to kill pac. Got it.
@@Frugal637 Puffy(according to Keefe D) offered him 1 mill to "make this Suge and 2pac problem go away..."
By now with all the death threats Puffy and them were getting from Suge, Pac and his crew- I believe Puffy got concerned and scared for his life. So he hired south side Compton crips to act as extra security against Suges MOB piru bloods.
Apparently it got to a point were Puffy wanted to get rid of these dudes, so he offered 1 mil and Keefe D and crew answered the call.
FF to Las Vegas Mike Tyson fight Sept 7. Suge, Pac and them and Keefe D with Orlando and others went down there too to see the fight.
I think Keefe said that they had just came to see the fight, but then Pac and them jumped Orlando in the MGM.
And they decided to go ahead a seize that opportunity to pop them.
They knew they were gonna be at club 662 so they rode there and waited.
Pac and them didn't go to 662 right away, they went back to the hotel, changed clothes and stuff. Reggie wright Jr had that whole change with security not having weapons and Pac rode with Suge on they way to 662.
Keefe said they went to a store to get some to snack on I guess, cuz Pac and them wasn't at 662 yet. Got back on the strip, heard groupies and fans yelling Pac this and that, and saw that the car was indeed filled with Pac and Suge.
Perfect for a drive-by.
They rode up to the passenger side and Orlando fired 💥💥💥💥💥 and sped off. Security in another car tried chasing but lost them.
Keefe said later after the news hit, puff called and asked was that them? As in, was that Keefe who shot them?
I fully believe Puff put out the hit.
Now, BIG? Idk.
Suge getting revenge on Puff makes sense, but then you got the Muslim dude and all these other theories....so idk.
Mc Eiht One Of The Greatest
I feel Biggie only went to Cali to prove his innocence not just to promote his album and I think he under estimated the love ppl had for Pac 5:45 wish Biggie had this mentality foreal
Wrong. Biggie had to go to Cali because of bitch ass Diddy and his greed to promote the album. He should of never been in Cali
puffy forced him to goto cali when he was suppose to goto Europe. Diddy the reason biggie is dead.
Diddy made him come to Cali. Puff knew exactly what he was doing.
@@TheUnluckyWandererBad move. But these songs were recorded when Pac was alive. I think it was more naive.
Big was being disrespectful lowkey he knew wat he was doing
Long answer short yes he died because he came to LA
That’s not the question when he clearly said Biggie didn’t die because of Pac, not LA! Duh
@@ijumpjudyyou wish Pac stayed so you could have your closet time with him. Your gay for Pac and his biggest obsessed mentally ill fan.
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 bruh he got shot in LA yes or no?
@@PavarottiAcqua bruh, you weren’t alive when it happened, yes!
eiht is right. I'd have just chilled let um lie and you in the house.
Ei8ht been solid from day 1!!! Spitting OG facts right here. 💯 💪🏾
Rip biggie.. The East coast love you 💯💯💯💯
Nahhh...... Only Brooklyn loved him
@@miker4671
Eiht just said different hater
@@miker4671Speak for yourself, cause you don't speak for me, or every show he headlined when he was alive. You're young, obviously or you're an ignorant MF on the West Coast. Talking out of your ass for a period you weren't around.
@@miker4671and ya moms
@@gbrazor You Piggie fanboys are something else bunch of straight GROUPIES 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I know BIG had went to the hospital to see Pac after he was shot but Pac had checked himself out already.....i wish he would have went to see him while Pac was upstate on that b.s conviction....i feel like they would have been able to sort everything out especially because Pac was 100% sober, which would of made it easier to talk to him. If BIG had done that then that would have changed everything. Im a die hard Pac fan, all the way until i die...but in my heart i never felt BIG had any knowledge of the shooting prior to it happening, i believe creamPuff knew but he wouldn't have told BIG because BIG wasnt that grimey type. Its all tragic, like deeply tragic.
No he did not Bozo.. Tupac father said he seen big come to the hospital
By the time Pac got shipped to prison, word had already spread that he threw Big and Puff under the bus in that vibe interview. So at that point why bother?
Exactly. Biggie’s problem was having bad people around him. Especially Puff Daddy. If I were Biggie I’d try to get away from Bad boy records.
@@juliostevens9480Nah, it was too late because Bigg had signed a contract and Creamy had given him a bull crap advance. Pac tried to warn Bigg about signing with Creamy like Bigg was trying to warn him about Jack.
Big was a felon couldn't visit pac. But could write or call
I totally agree with Eiht. The fact he was out there made no sense to me.
Even Biggie's mom questionend why they went out to LA....He don't go to LA... I think he may still be around today
still would've died. Puffy set him up.
@@slystally9874
Facts. Biggie would have been dropped eventually. Same thing for PAC, if he was not shot and killed in Vegas eventually he would have been gunned down as well over time.
Facts. She said she was worried
Biggie didn’t set up Pac. But he knew Henchman and his goons. PAC was mad biggie didn’t warn him and also biggie didn’t say anything after the shooting. From biggies perspective, if he told, he would have been snitching and his life would have been in danger too.
And you are assuming that BIG knew beforehand. Why cause Pac said so🤦🏾♂ FOH 2Pac fanboy. Plus BIG warned Pac to watch the company he keeps Mike Tyson and others as well. But the ballerina didn't listen, and he thought he actually was the thug he portrayed himself to be. And BIG went to see Pac aright after at the hospital.
Pac knew all of em too. And so did Mike Tyson but we all seen Pac giggling like a school girl at the Tyson fight in Vegas
@@BigDawg-oh4hb What jewelry of Pac's was BIG wearing?
@@BigDawg-oh4hb never heard this before
Pac looked at it like the situation with Wu Tang, Pac found out who did it an handled the situation for them
I have ALWAYS loved MC EIHT! Its good to see him!
Real Talk right there!!, MC EIHT SAYING ALL PERFECT
Wasnt it already said thay Big was reluctant to go and asked several people for second opinions? Didnt they say puffy prssured him into going and was acting like he knew something the night of the tragedy?
Gene Deal (Puff’s bodyguard at the time) said BIG didn’t wanna go.
Clive Davis was about to lose a lot of money over Biggie leaving Bad Boy and getting his own deal without Puffy
@@daddyrareman Biggie got killed for nothing. They knew Biggie leaving would hurt their pockets so they killed Biggie to collect insurance and royalties from Life After Death. But look what happened two years later in 1999, Puffy did something that put Clive Davis out of commission at Arista. Puffy ended up signing a new distribution deal with Universal anyway.
@@timmy841212And Charlie Baltimore said it too, they should have been in London but hey, Puff had other plans
and biggs moms
I haven’t seen this guy in along time. but he speaking truth and common sense Amen 🙏🏽 he nailed that. ❤❤❤
Well when jimmy henchman and puffy were in one studio big and junior mafia are in another studio all in the same building it’s kinda hard to believe at the least puffy knew cause he was there with henchman who admitted to the setup.. There’s a video of jimmy and puffy walking out of the building together after the shooting and jimmy tried to hide his face when he saw the camera
Facts
He just told him Pac never said that. But he still keeps saying Pac said that 🙄
Man! I be mad af they been running with this myth since 94 lol
Pac implied Biggie had prior knowledge not that Biggie set the whole thing up.
@@juliostevens9480that part
Thats what they all do
It's crazy how many West Coast dudes are starting to go with that narrative now. I'm starting to wonder if any of these dudes actually had any love for Pac. It's like they all are trying to stay in somebody's good graces.
2PAC wanted out Death Row just as Biggie wanted out of Bad Boys. Both murders where internal. Both artist's wanted to branch out and do there own thing. 2pac didn't want to go the Vegas, and Biggie didn't want to L.A.
Cap 🧢. What about the million dollar check Diddy supposedly wrote for Pac's death ?
This THE dumbest Theory of them all!!
Pac got murdered by Orlando Anderson because he helped jump Orlando when Suge and his boys jumped Orlando. They caught Pac in traffic and laid him down. Simple revenge shit
Big got killed thru a hit set up by Suge. It's a documentary with police intel that talks about it
What boy?
Mmmm this is deep 😢
I really appreciate where this cat is coming from because he lived it but he still knows at the end of the day what’s really important! Respect
He is spot on about just enjoy the simple things in life! I wake up everyday looking forward to seeing my daughter first thing in the mornings!
Biggie was on LA radio freestyling Long Kiss Goodnight
Like he said, because Pac was so vocal and brutal in speech, he was able to get people to believe any and damn near everything he said. There was indeed many people in LA that believed and rode for Pac regardless of the truths involved. LA is a point system gang culture, one of ours is gone, let's take one of they'res.
That part ..
Yeah, his take was dishonest and a diversion.
Yeah, his take was dishonest and a diversion.
Yeah, his take was dishonest and a diversion.
Yeah, his take was dishonest and a diversion.
That’s why I always respected Eiht. The G is in me. Yo. Salute!🥃
Clark Kent is 100% Right
If your homie don't pick you up at the airport on the way to the studio, after being invited there in the first place, or try to tip you off that you are going to be robbed if you show up, or doesn't visit you after you were shot 9 times, it's safe to say he has something to do with it and from that point on he will be considered and treated like an Op.
@averychilco You're dead wrong either You're really high or really stupid!!!
I’m 41 now & me being a youngest back then I never believed Biggie set PAC up! Biggie had tooooo much love for homie to do that!
8:20 - 8:55 sums up that entire situation. He kept it 💯💯. The best interview I have listened to about this.
BIG was there for 2 months.
Where 😢
@@StlChi . Big was in LA for 2 months
He was, what I don't get is what made him so comfortable out there? I know puff made him go but he was moving reckless
That is strange to me because from what I understand, Biggie had to a photoshoot for the Life After Death album cover in January 1997 so he really didn't get to L.A. until February.
@@mistermay7986 Not at all, he was over a month, but not in La, he was over a month in Cali, Sacramento and other places.
Nobody ever talks about Big doing that freestyle from Long Kiss Good Night, in which he sneak disses Pac, as the reason Big was killed. I heard it angered people around LA because they felt he was coming at Pac, who was dead. Maybe his disrespect caused him death.
What about Pac making a diss song telling the world he fucked his wife?? What about Pac dissing a deadman, Stretch?? The bias is crazy
Big Pooch told his whole family that Puff paid them off to handle BIG, word got back to the streets that Pooch was opening his mouth & then he got killed in prison not so long after ...
Long kiss....PAUSE...good night 😂
He was damn....walk in a wasp nest...they paid Orlando to snatch death row chain
And yout dumb as Hell if u believe the plan to kill Biggie was based on that freestyle.
Like honestly, you guys should be embarrassed to be this stupid
Puffy know it was too early for them to be on the West Coast after Pac was murdered Puff knew what was going to happen 💯
Totally agree 💯. Missed Tupac very very much everyday.😰😰😰😰
Puffy coached him to go
And no one believed Stretch had anything to do with it. Now it comes out that he WAS a part of it.
Money's funny
MC Eiht is funny AF. He basically agreed & confirmed what Clark Kent said without realizing it. 😂 Yes it was a hit, payback for Pac. Plain & simple. One doesn't happen without the other and it all stems from PAC & Suge going at Bad Boy because of the Quad robbery/shooting!
"You get me" 😂😂😂
But why go at Bad Boy for the Quad shooting?? Bad Boy didn’t set Pac up. Why not go at the niggaz who did it?? 🤷🏿
Yes sir 👍
Naw Suge and Puff was beefing before that. Puff bodyguard kill Suge homeboy at a party. Pac just aligned himself with Suge to get out of jail, Protection, and they had the same beef. Suge been trying to get Puff. That Biggie hit may have even been intended for Puff. They caught Biggie instead. On top of that they had all types of warnings and was running with the Crips. It’s deep.
I thought the same
Pac never said Biggie set him up, he felt Big knew something
Because it happened on his home turf! Pac felt like since you claim to be a Don you should have known something
Facts
Wrong. Pac was just lying to justify attacking Big. He knew who did it immediately when his boys who were closer to him than Big told him. He didn't really have questions for Big.
“We can do a 📞 interview I’ve done plenty of them” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
And there are idiots who believe BIG died cause he spit long kiss goodnight on the radio. Lol. Hit been in place
Yeah that was a disrespectful move
Agreed. I’ve stated similar on different video clip. It’s crazy how many pushing that narrative. When have street thugs/hitters ever cared about a diss song? LOL
Actually that hit got placed when Suge went to jail. Which is within the same timeframe of Biggie freestyling that song.
Niggas put the hit on em cause of the Dog Pound situation and E 40 situation
@@kevinlee9929seems like another groupie reply, in regards to your bubblebath hero
Whenever OG speaks,listen and take his word for face value. MC Eiht is as solid as they come. He made it through the height of some terrible times in LA. The early 80's - the late 90's was treacherous.
But a week before Pac got shot, Biggie was telling him about the potential situation which was the shooting and that's why Tupac knew Biggie knew exactly what was going on. Maybe Biggie was just careful because those guys might have came after him too if he tried to help Tupac. But Pac never said Big set him up and Pac never lied on no one.
he said Biggie shot him
He made it look like Biggie and Puff tried to take him out on 2 of Amerikkkas Most wanted
Fatal Hussein rapped abt Frank White setting traps
and we know the Outlawz co-signed Pac
Now its all abt versace you copied my style 5 shots couldn't drop me I took it and smiled
@@maazi.naaniya9158 Tupac knew and stated that Biggie doesn't have that much power to pull that off. Pac tried to reach Big to gain understanding of what he was talking about before they shot him and Biggie wasn't trying to have that sit down. Y'all make that nigga bigger than he is, this is not about Biggie" says Tupac in a interview.
Why ask a guy who had no dealings with either situation. He just has an opinion smh
Exactly! And he just talked around the question. If Pac didn’t start the shit wit Big it wouldn’t been no beef and he could’ve went to LA whenever he wanted
@reef9084 if biggie never released Who shot you AFTER Pac got shot there wouldn't have been no beef SMFH 🤦
@@jedimasteryoda1282 Pac dissed him before that
@@jedimasteryoda1282 Did Biggie release it or his label that owns the song???
@@jedimasteryoda1282 What does who shot ya have to do with pac thinking big knew about the setup? Pac knew what that shit was about and who was responsible but he wanted to profit off the situation.
It's my opinion, Puffy turned Biggie over to his enemies. I don't think Puffy directly put the hit on Biggie, but he knew who wanted to get at Biggie and worked it out with them that he'd put Biggie in their sight to get at him. They put the stickers on the tires as a marker and let Biggie's enemies do their evil.
Them stickers on them tires? Was a cold move‼️
@tiffanyharris414 Dirty asl!
Big Facts! Pac still put the blame on Biggie.
When?
@@miker4671 just by saying they knew this and knew that, and he blamed Stretch who ended up getting killed first.
You biggie GROUPIES only hear what they want to hear ...FACTS!
Eiht always on point! RIP PAC.. ✌🏾
Both pac and biggie were dealing with real gangsters and were both in over their heads with that. Both rappers got murdered and the gangsters kept it pushing.
Exactly, some of these fan boys don't realize there are cats who are street goons 24×7. They don't care about your records, only what they can get you for, and unfortunately, these 2 guys paid with their lives.
Dj Clark Kent is correct
Wrong
I think Puff and Biggie knew, especially with everything we know about puff now.
Right...Pac said he callee Biggie and Biggie had changed his number. And he never reached out to Pac or came and seen him at the hospital.
He was told not to go but they didn’t respect LAs gangster, so now y’all know , don’t fuck with Cali
Biggie wasn’t afraid of coming to L. A. He knew that but diddy wanted him set up in Californi. Ba Big said plenty of times let’s go overseas puff I got another show to do but puffy was stalling procrastinating, and kept biggie there until the mission was completed Allegedly 😮 RIP Big n’ Pac 🥲
Puff's decision got Bigg killed the end !!
I often wonder what would have happened if Pac and Biggie weren’t killed and Death Row & Bad Boy had been more positive influences.
Definitely both will be legends but pac had that super star aura that would have went for ever and that's why people get so mad that he couldn't do it to survive.
You've answered your own question. You don't have to wonder what would have happened if Death Row and Bad Boy had more positive influences, because they simply wouldn't have been killed in the first place if the influences were positive.
Big got killed because he came to LA, he tried to prove he wasn't scared to come to LA and that got him killed💯 what people fail to realize biggie smalls have been out here for 2 weeks after 2:00 got killed promoting his album and he did that freestyle on the radio live Low-key dissing pac that's what put the fuel on the fire and he got killed like a week later at those awards
Let's talk about how Pac supposedly went back and told the cats what Biggie had said about them, when he was trying to warn Pac about hanging around them.
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They don't wanna talk about that
Let's not forget when Pac was robbed. Biggie was wearing his cross necklace and ordered shots on music video shoot in New York. Everyone has distorted memory . Biggie always threw rocks and hid his hand
@@megmichelle5832Biggie was NEVER seen wearing Pacs jewelry anywhere, that's a lie and when Biggie called the radio station that was after all the back and forth had started going on, so by that time I don't blame him one bit for what he did.. THEY WERE AT WAR 🤷🏾♂️
He was absolutely right. If Pac never would’ve said anything about biggie knowing about his shooting, none of the following events would’ve transpired. No hit em up, no Suge source awards, no stand off at the MTV Awards, nothing. All this starts with Pac and his personal issues. He’s the root of the problem. He’s the reason he’s dead and the reason Big died. End of story. It could’ve all been avoided but he had to push the issue
Nah B. Beef was already kookn before he kame to death row.
Biggie should never gone to LA
New York clowns always act like Fatboy was innocent 😂😂
Mc eight definitely a NY clown then fukingbozo😩💀💀
As far as setting Pac up to be robbed, he was innocent
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ALL FACTS MC EIHT!
He kind of twisted the question. It wasn't whether someone killed Biggie for setting up Tupac, it was whether that narrative led to the beef that resulted in Biggie's death
@@josh-kf2rdit was already a beef between suge and puffy when wolf killed suge's homie. And puffy was a snake pac didn't like him either before he even joined deathrow.
@@imbsmit that incident is not what the beef between pac and big was about
@@josh-kf2rd I didn't say pac and big. I said suge and puffy. And pac already didn't like puffy. Pac and big beef was pac felt like biggie kept tryna send him hints and not tell him wtf happen to him when he knew what happen
@@imbsmit this whole thing is about how Pac's beef with BIG ultimately led to BIG being associated with his death in a lot of people's minds and people out west not liking him, not Suge and Puffy.
Common sense over ego. Completely agree with Eiht on this one. This is on Puff.
Listen to the Angie Martinez interview. Pac was all over the place when Angie asked him straight up if he thought Big set him up. He wasnt credible, he was mad at his man Big who he thought possibly knew about it and the whole beef got out of his control and blown up in the media so he just ran with it instead of doing a 180 publicly, maybe he felt it was good for his career at the time...
Puffy set up Biggie Smalls
Damn, that was deep! Excellent perspective. 😮 🤔
And according to Gene Deal, Puffy basically forced Big to come to LA. Biggie actually wanted his Publishing so he obeyed Puffy and did everything he was saying. Puffy even forced Biggie to go to that Vibe party where he got shot.
Puffy got hell to pay. You reap what you sow.
Kind of same as how Suge pretty much pressured Pac to go to Vegas
Puff lined up biggie and DEFINITELY tried to line mase (using brandy sneaky a$$ as a conduit)..but Mase probably had a hunch and that's why he still here....puff going down amd not like how he likes to..brandy will be caight up soon.
MC Eight 8️⃣ is absolutely right!!
California Muslim off duty Cop. Who paid for it?????? That’s the question……..
Suge
It was an attempt to take attention away from 2Pacs death, that's why Biggie was killed
@@sleven120 Fruit of Islam got Biggie. Who was behind it don’t know……..
@@larryjohnson7239Reggie Wright and the rest of the crooked cops know who killed Biggie and what really happened to 2Pac.
MC is speaking facts but remember the mindset of a 25yr old!
Biggie was dissin Pac on LA radio
Nope. He said that at the time he had a lot of things going on in his personal life, so he didn't have time to focus so much on Pac's death. But LA ninjas wanted him to be all boohooohooo for Pac. He gave respect to Pac, saying "duke was strong" but unfortunately, Pac had tarnished his reputation on the west coast, so he wasn't super sad for Pac.
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