I always come to Jon's page to get an intelligent, well thought-out discussion of important subjects. Sprinkled with his great humor too! Thanks for sharing your views with us.
I have a wonderful and visceral reaction to Jon's voice - immediately I feel safe & in an honest space. Been watching this man for about 28 years, since The Jon Stewart Show on MTV until these new iterations, & in all that time, Jon has always assumed his audience comes informed and is capable of nuance & reflection. An incredibly talented interviewer and all around good dude that Jon. Helluva guy. Glad to have access to him through TH-cam too - not adding apple tv no matter what lolol
@@mericanignoranc3551 Interesting concept! Someone differs in opinion than yours so they are automatically delusional! Curious, exactly who died and left you boss? Leave the person alone. Go si5 in the corner and meditate. You will feel so much better.
Here's the thing about Qanon: Qanon was bullshit. But Podesta's emails? Those were real. And so what Qanon did was focus the attention on this stupid plan, nobody looked at these emails and said, "What the fuck is going on here?" For anybody wondering about the emails, I suggest you look up the documentaries done by Mouthy Buddha. You can find them on Bitchute. But they too, will have you be like, "what the fuck is this shit?"
The problem is that the internet has displaced television as most people's primary news sources. I know as I was once one. After January 6th, I had to finally admit that I was wrong!
@@emanuelmota7217 very good point! I identify as a Centrist Libertarian, whom is tribally pro-Israel and I genuinely believe that the bloated federal government has gotten WAY Too BIG!
John Stewart is such a great commentator. A really smart guy that from time to time, spices up the heavy topics on his show, with satirical and sardonic humor.
You guys.... none of the stuff this guy's attributing to Q was ever said by Q!!! Someone on the boards even asked if JFK Jr. was alive and Q responded NO!!!!
There's not a single mention of adrenochrome or drinking blood or Lizard people or any of that shit!!! You've just been told that's what's in there but you haven't looked for yourselves. I know that for a fact bc none of that shit is in there!!!!
I disagree with him, however, on the "delusional" concept of Russian interference sowing discontent and division in American society. They may not have started it, but they're way too opportunistic to pass up a chance to feed into it and weaken their greatest competitor.
A beautiful conversation! Gabriel did a great piece on Sweden and Malmö a few years ago that is one of the best I have seen - fair, nuanced, balanced. And here he is again, gloves off, just bringing it. And Jon is a national treasure. Loved it!
It never ceases to amaze me that a comedian is one of the best journalist/analyst out there. It's a complement to Jon but it's a condemnation of the journalism industry.
Yeah I think comedians make the best journalists because they dont take thinks that seriously or at face value. True news people get a big head quick and lose sight of questions to ask. Comedians always ask good questions
I don't always agree with Jon but I sure as hell appreciate his voice on any subject because it is good to ask questions and hear insight from a different standpoint.
Speaking to what you said about we Americans not accepting responsibility for our own failures, I am glad that we no longer hear the old adage that “ this is not who we are”. We need to understand that this current culture is indicative of who we are and then we can strive to be better
QAnon often plays into ego, as well. Like, "I know the real truth" or "You're just sheep, without an understanding of what's really going on" . It also can just be quite fun to be "in" on such alternative "facts and realities".
I think that's the flip side of Jon's point about feeling powerless. The bad guys are in control which is how I justify my lot in life, but I personally am in the know about them so at least I have some form of power, and in fact am superior to the "sheep" who don't even realize how miserable they are. Any conspiracy theory belief is about rebuilding ego after a legit loss. Let's reframe the story, sometimes the whole world, rather than admit a fair defeat.
Exactly, I say that about people really into many conspiracy theories…they need to feel like life is exciting. Me, I’m fine knowing life is pointless hah.
Wow. This contains so many pieces of information that it would have never occur to me to seek, and it establishes so many connections that I otherwise would have struggled to piece together. Bravo. Thrilled Stewart is back! It was great hearing from Mr. Gatehouse.
Gabriel Gatehouse has had a great career as a journalist in UK, and as a Foreign Correspondent. His QAnon investigation was fascinating. Lots of interviews and research went into it. See if you can find the full series on a podcast maybe - BBC Sounds/i-player. 👍 (Originally broadcast on BBC Radio 4 - UK).
@@Whelmedfoxen only as direct-to-vhs slasher films. All your goofy Ron Watkins q nonsense has very little evidence. As for pedophiles, yeah probably, but it's not a big pizzagate conspiracy.
@Sketchy Stuff - Fairytails and bullshirt are still fairytales, whether "the system" bans them for the benefit of a credulous, easily-duped populace or not.
@Sketchy Stuff - I've lived here in the U.S.A. for the majority of my life, and the crap some people choose to believe in is *absolutely pathetic.* If there was a pop blogger telling everyone that aspirin was made out of dead babies and the best way to get rid of headaches was to forcibly inject lead pellets into their hippocampus, you can bet some morons would be shooting themselves in the head. There's gotta be some line for broadcasters to follow, and when you peddle bullshirt to your listeners in the name of 'ratings' or 'controversy', you've just crossed it.
@Sketchy Stuff - I am very glad that I don't share your worldview and attitude. When you don't trust anyone, you'll find that no one trusts *you*, either. But you Have A Nice Day - if you can, that is!
The search for the comfort of reassurance of the “why’s” in life is universal, but ends in the next one that we face. What I hear from Jon is that we need to move away from the subjective reaction to an objective response to what pops up in our live feed. Until we are able to disconnect from the emotional meat hooks that too much information brings, the power of “opinions” will continue to blind and divide us. Thank you Jon for being clear and calm in these times.
It's important to remember that 'We' believe lies either because 'We' want them to be true, or 'We' are a afraid that they are true. Its also important to remember that none of us are immune to those lies and their influence. Good Data, Facts, and an Open Mind are our only chance of overcoming those lies.
yeah, kinda like when some people believe, that when some guy cuts off his dick and puts on a wig, he's suddenly a "woman" :D:D SAME type of delusion as Qanon basically..... both far-left and far-right completely lost it at this point
The right has hate in their heart. It’s the strongest emotion for most people. They want to believe it, power and wealth means more to them than these children they claim to protect.
@@itkojecockot we dont believe they became a natural women, we just think it's not a big deal to consider them what they want to be. It's not going to in any way shape my day or interfere with me for someone to identify as a male or female. But it sure as hell will make their life better. And if altering the way I refer to someone gives them a better life or a reason to live, why wouldn't I do that?
@@itkojecockot And the sheer fact you act like that means you have not put in even the smallest amount of research as to why a person would want to do such a thing. Go do some research and listen to that community talk about their lives and how they feel, and maybe you'll get some empathy. And by the way, empathy is something that is truly lacking in right wing ideology. And for a ground that majorly considers themself to be christian or a follower of christ, they sure as shit dont act like it.
It’s not simple to inspire or teach people to sacrifice desire or their id and ego @ religion. Without seeing the beauty of prophets struggling or messianic figures, people might find such teachings trivial or platitudes. With stories we can imagine a context where the value of these ideas can shine.
@@denialfalls2724 A decent answer. But Jon is a pretty darn bright guy, so I wonder why he couldn't think of a similar answer to his own question. These absurd stories are evocative and emotionally stimulating, so it doesn't shock me when people are drawn to them. (Notice how that last sentence doesn't specify whether I'm talking about religion or q-anon?)
Yep. My brother believes in mermaids and the secret extra apollo moon mission because he saw the mermaid and rock monsters on a tv show. Saw them with his own two eyes.
My problems is that those who "believe" don't think it is a parable. We are meant to do our own research but generations of education defunding has removed the ability to think critically.
I think some of this "do your own research" thing tends to lead to the same echo chamber and any opinion outside that first impression is regarded as someone who didn't do their "research," aka you didn't do my research or went through the same rabbit hole I did. I mean look at all the things they smear China for and how many people just accept it and anyone who says differently is a CCP shill. This is no different than throwing everything at Washington establishment as a blood drinking sex trafficking cabal.
@@questworldmatrix Yes and critical thinking skills would reduce the tendency to fall down those rabbit holes. This is not something that necessarily comes naturally to people especially when confronted with the ability to so easy confirm our biases.
The Alt-Right agenda for the past 70 years has been to destroy public education so the oligarchs could keep workers in ignorance, paying slave wages with not benefits and not power. They are succeeding thanks to every GOP admin since Reagan. As a college Math teacher, I see the damage every day. Heavy Sigh...
@@m.k.c.5212 I'd hate to be a student of yours if that's what you think. Of course your tribe is different though, right? Too dumb to realize all of those in government benefit from a uneducated society, and not just one side. You're basically like Q at this point, and hopefully some student records you ranting one day.
I think this is the first time I have ever disagreed with Jon... it doesn't "seem almost delusional" it is in fact completely delusional, from the time we can understand the words we are told the America is the best in the world, that we have done no wrong, that we can do no wrong... so, it makes sense that a significant portion of the U.S. has an inability to accept that we have serious issues that are our own fault, and that have even been made by us ourselves...
We do get brought up differently in a country this big. I was taught to question "authority" & to question the news from the time I was small, by both my parents and by my public school. I was never told that "America is the best in the world." Never. I do think what you say applies to a "significant portion of the US," but it is far from everyone and everywhere. When a popular & honest candidate came up (Bernie) he wasn't crushed by the people, but by the corporate interests of the DNC & of main stream media. Had he won we would now have the beginnings of medicare4all, student debt would be cancelled, a $15 minimum wage would the law, a Green New Deal would have been launched employing thousands, and on and on. You speak of your own background & it seems you have overcome the close-mindedness of it. Well done. Frankly, I don't know if I would have done as well if I had grown up in a close-minded household and community.
Especially when shows like these refuse to address ANY of those serious issues as many of those current issues involve seriously criticizing Biden and the democratic party.
As an outsider mate trust me America is exceptional and unique in a way it is more free than rest of the countries, it has robust constitution(bill of rights) now I realise that it comes with risk, the freedom to own guns may mean there are alot of more gun violence freedom of speech may mean there will be crackpots being famous by spewing nonsense but as with everything there is positive and negative but the best thing about America has always been that it has been the place where no dream is crazy enough, even the Scandinavian countries like Denmark if people find out you have a dream to be best chef in the world or you have a dream to goto mars people always laugh at you and they try to pull you back to earth, I think US is a place where u can strive to achieve whatever crazy ideas you have people will be supportive, maybe it's just me but there needs to be some places like this in the world hence all the brilliant minds goto US to achieve their dreams yeah even dreamers from Scandinavia goto US lol there are alot of problems in US like rest of the world but do try to keep things in perspective dude
It’s nationalism bordering on brainwashing. A lot of countries do it. How would you otherwise convince someone to join the military and fight a war about resources that will only benefit the 1% of the 1% who wants to fight the war because it benefits them financially.
Prob came out of a lot of people during the pandemic sitting around bored and talking for hours and hours and nobody was like oh shit I gotta go to work lol
Then please give my reply above a thumbs up like I did for you. I completely agree with you and can't believe I had to scroll down this far to find someone who saw what I did. In addition, this reporter" is a friggin joke who is obviously fulfilling his own rightwing narrative.
A few angry Bernie supporters voted for Trump just to teach the DNC a lesson, but they don't belong to QAnon. At least the ones I know don't. Nonetheless, I am furious wit them for giving Tyrantosaurus Rex even one extra vote. SMH
Former Bernie supporters is what he said, people that were going to vote for him or at least said they were. Doesn't necessarily make them progressives. Progressives are useless anyways, theyre like putting a bandaid on a giant ax wound.
They 💯 are. Lots voted for trump, not just withholding their vote from Hillary. They went scorched earth and got Trump, feel smart now? The Dems fucked up rigging it for Hillary over Bernie, but Bernie can't win Americans hate his agenda. He's too smart and progressive for the US. They deserved trump, and they'll get him again or his kids whoever runs next election.
Sure, he likes attention. How does he seek it? This makes all the difference. Seeking attention is not in itself a bad thing, only if that takes such a priority that one does not act in good faith.
I think everyone is over analyzing the whole thing. QAnon is literally one guy who is lonely and bored who spends all day reading outrageous hate speech forums from 8chan and spins up new material for impact to keep his forum alive so he gets some ad money. This is not thought by any means out or planned nor connected to any political with security clearence its more like drinking booze alone in a dark room with porn and trying to amuse a fanatic puplic who eats all the garbage you think up and post. Simple...i did sale shit when i was in highschool i just grew out of it these people didnt.
@@jujjuj7676 it doesn’t matter if it’s one guy doing it, it’s the thousands of followers. Trump is also just one guy. So was Hitler. It’s the people who believe the nonsense that are the danger and there’s lots of them.
There's a great BBC podcast series "The Coming Storm" which covers this topic really well. They even visit a QAnon rally, and I think they're pretty fair about it. The people are deranged, but also there's a reason for the mistrust and discontent that leads to belief in anything.
smiling while you write that you are smiling while you write that you are smiling . . .. It's an endless loop with infinite versions of you writing about other infinite versions of you smiling, and that second infinity is also writing about another infinity of smiling you's, who are themselves writing, and so forth.
Maybe. But it's the "watching all day" that is likely the problem. We need to turn it all off and go outside, to the garden, to take a walk, to play ball with the kids, dinner with friends.
Thank you for this balanced perspective. I am one who wanted to believe that there was no way "we" could have elected a clown like Trump without outside influence, so I wanted to believe all of the Russia stories. The pee tape was what took me out of that. The man has shown time and time again that he is incapable of feeling shame or being shamed, so why would a pee tape be any kind of leverage? The reality that almost half of the American public sees someone like him as a good leader is much scarier.
I mean, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Russia did in fact help...but I also think Trump probably won even without their help due to the general vote suppression and the likes. Trump giving Putin concessions and free reign to be awful is because Trump loves dictators. Any dictators. He *loves* them.
@@snorpenbass4196 if trump was giving Putin free reign then why didn’t Putin take over Ukraine while trump was office? Putin took over crimea while Obama was in charge. We also killed 300 Russians in Syria while trump was in charge, that doesn’t sound like something someone would do who is in the pocket of Putin.
@@snorpenbass4196 Hey. You don’t have to wonder. The Senate report clearly conceded that Russia interfered to help Trump win. So did the Mueller report. But to be clear he won the electoral college just like Biden did for 2020.
Trump gave Ukraine missiles to defend themselves Russia that Obama did not. Putin took Crimea under Obama as well so who has given Russia more power, certainly not Trump and now under Obama part 2, the worst part being Biden Putin is controlling the narrative again because he sees no credible leadership.
@@danvining2186 Hey Dan. If Putin feared Trump why didn’t he pull out of Crimea? Trump was as impotent as Obama to influence that. Trump doesn’t respect democracy or our constitution. I wish you would judge him on that above all others.
Jon I just heard about a book on another channel. It’s title is “Of Boys and Men” by Richard Reeves. It traces the lack of progress many men and boys in America experience. Especially it traces lack of college degrees. There were two other books I read “The Boy Crisis” by Warren Farrell PHD and “The Once and Future Worker “ by Oren Hass. They all go into the things you are talking about.
I can't find the words to express the gratitude for helping me to more understand the some of the dynamics that is destroying our republic 💔 We have to greatly improve the "fight" to save it...thank you
I love that this guy actually talks about the larp. You dont hear about that in the main stream. It was kids. They were doing it for fun to troll the trolls. I can't remember the exact date, but Q disappear for like two or three weeks at one point and I imagine that's when the kids saw that it was getting to big and past a joke. At that point is when the Watkins father and son team took over the account. They were the only ones who could have done as owners and admins of the site. No one else could have. It was them, period, no allegedly.
Just an FYI point: in the field of Biblical scholarship, “Q” is a label given to the unknown author(s) of the “Synoptic Gospels” - those parts of each Gospel which have common materials - common recitations of Biblical history.
14:53 - a hypothesis is an idea. A theory is a well supported hypothesis. A conspiracy theory is a disproven or highly unlikely hypothesis that is nonetheless still believed.
The outlandishness works because it is so outlandish that people believe that it must be true simply because no one would make so outlandish a claim unless it was true AND that despite how easily checked it is, it is only checkable by people around that specific location, which is not the vast majority of followers. And then it becomes just a 'coverup.'
A Q-anon devotee I know started off watching Alex Jones and is now all the way off the deep end of sanity. They are entirely unencumbered by reality and factually impervious; there's NO talking with them. None. Hopelessly lost.
Nobody becomes a qanon supporter overnight and they will not stop overnight. It is worth talking to them and listening to them. And once they feel you have listened to them, they may be more amenable to what you say to them. A very difficult thing to do admittedly. But when you outright reject them they they fall back into the arms and safe haven of fellow qanon followers where they feel they are being listened to. Just put your best argument to them and leave and hopefully it will slowly marinate into their thinking. For instance the basic cause that seems to bring people into qanon is fighting child abuse. Well say that you are also concerned about that problem but you looked into it and you have yet to find any examples of qanon people saving any children from anywhere. This goes to the very root of their thinking. Then they'll either go away and check it out or not. But at least you addressed their issue which is what they are looking for. Sorry if that was a bit long winded.
Find pictures from the Philadelphia Democratic Convention. There was a giant TV on a small flatbed circling with a Lock Hilary up ad playing. The hard core Bernie supports were fanatical as trump supporters became
@@conchobar do you combat this thought because you are a Bernie supporter? That's kind of the point. You aren't affected by or embodied by anyone but yourself regardless of who anyone else supports. That's only an identity if you choose it to be.
When you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, ignorant and stupid theories makes one feel smart because they seem so plausible to those dull knives.
I always that the theory that Q was 100 percent a troll fucking with anybody would just believe whatever they said, but the concept that this may have started with an RP is blowing my mind.
I compare Qanoners to hardcore video game addicts. What they are so hooked on is escaping from mundane real life into a fantasy world where they get to play hero of the story. And like any addict they have to hit rock bottom before finally deciding they want to get better.
John makes an excellent point for the culture in America - our society created the perfect environment for Q to even exist in the first place. Makes you think...
Yup. Discredit and devalue evidence. Created a situation where a claim made is given as much credit as proof supplied. Where people are never held accountable for what they say. Where the media and political zeitgeist never dwell on a single point for longer than it takes for the next one to surface. It’s a system of blitzkrieg propaganda. A race to say the next outrageous point before they can even let the previous one sink in. Trump mastered this one, and all it would have taken was for the media to refuse to move on to the next point until they’ve raked the people responsible over the coals for the first one.
It's modern-day secular gnosticism. It caters to that special feeling people have when they think they're in the know because theyve figured out something the rest of us are too dumb to get.
He makes some great points, as easy as it is to ridicule the tin-foil hat crowd, I've always felt that conspiracy theories aren't the problem, but symptoms of a system that left a large crowd completely disenfranchised and disillusioned.
The right wing ALWAYS said this WOULD happen, and people THEN called them crazy fringe racists.... Just like they do today. Except NOW, they have been proven RIGHT by history.... We DO infact see division, racial tensions, global pandemics, endless migrant streams, whites feeling displaced in their own communities.... ALL the things we said were going to happen.
@@deltav864 Its a natural consequence, of leftist/globalist policy. We said it WOULD happen, and it IS happening..... It's very simple.... A lot of people, DEMAND a nation, with security and predictability, and independance from people who think differently... It's how WE COPE with being alive... It's how we invest and save for retirement, provide for our kids... Historically, even in tribal days, people would ALWAYS kill for that... It's not a political agenda, it's a fact of life, like how we need oxygen, and have a sex drive... Those things are not political. They PRECEDE all those words and agendas.
@@deltav864 -We recognize that we are humans, and limited to being humans.... ... Our political view point is that we shoould have the RIGHT to be humans, in our natural state.... Like I also believe for any other animal.... -It's natural to have a culture, and if you undermine my culture, I will resist, because my culture helps my survival and reproductive chances... Its like basic logic more than agenda.
@@monopalle5768 People who think differently from you are not your enemy. They have the same rights that you have. Just because you think your next door neighbor is some kind of leftist doesn't mean they are to blame for racial tensions and white folk feeling discriminated against because nonwhites are advocating a less racist country. The fact that you demand independence from people who think differently from you demonstrates clearly how unAmerican you are. "The right wing ALWAYS said this WOULD happen, and people THEN called them crazy fringe racists" The reason you are called a crazy fringe racist is because you are a crazy fringe racist. Dry your eyes little trooper.
I enjoy Jon Stewart’s insightful and intelligent analysis of the issues of our times, but I do miss the old Jon Stewart from Comedy Central who tore into these same types of issues with biting sarcasm and sometimes an almost outrageously entertaining humor. There’s just an element, almost I can’t quite articulate or put my finger on, that is missing in the presentation and discussions today.
Would love to see Jon interview more people with opposing opinions and allow them to show their own colors in his witty genius way without being ugly. The same witty comedic way he would dismantle Fox commentators
If "the internet" can target me with specific ads within seconds of opening a window in TH-cam; why can't MicroSoft, Google, Apple et. al. get together and find Q? Somebody originated this shit.
Many Americans see the UK as a socialist country because we have free healthcare (introduced by a socialist government) and a strong welfare net (likewise). Our Conservative Party is able to weaken it occasionally, but it is essentially enshrined (for now) in our governmental structure.
I live in the US, but can someone tell me what "Q" is? The way they talk about how it has "metastasized" in this country, surely, I would've encountered this "entity" somewhere... I don't watch or listen to media sources, maybe that's why. But I digress...
The guy who bought 8 Chan and then took on the incarnation of Q was an American ex-pat named Watkins. And now his son has seemingly inherited the title of Q and is, I believe, running for a Congressional seat.
Confused to hear nonsense that Bernie supporters fell into Qanon rhetoric. Most people who were Bernie supporters were unhappy because they ended up voting for Hillary. The population of left leaning Qanon followers is so small and fringe it makes me discount a lot of what this person has to say as sensational op-ed dogma
To solve the question of why people love QAnon one must define the question. Simply, QAnon is an interactive, internet-based game based on a Reality-TV premise of governance. Think WWE but with governance instead of sports and throw in the interactivity of gaming. How to create a QAnon. * First set the topic: governance as entertainment ... child traffic ... etc. * Second, choose characters from the real world - politicians and celebrities. * Third, through a show runner (Q in this game) assign false motives, plots, intrigue, heroes, villians, etc. and capture them into story arcs which weave the real world and the fake world. * Fourth, add interactivity so that the audience can participate in the story ... find clues, build andd share linkages between plot elements, add new content, etc. * Fifth, role out new content to maintain interest. How to get the game started ... simple don't tell them it is a game, otherwise it won't work. Think War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells ... that form of entertainment wouldn't have worked if the audience knew ahead of time that it was fake. How to stop the game ... how do you break your teenager's addiction to video gaming ... not sure. Educate the population that QAnon is a game and like War of the Worlds many were duped ... nothing to be embarrassed about Personally, I think such games based on governance should be illegal. Such a law could be constructed ... one that allows "Veep" (fake politicians doing funny stuff) and not QAnon (real world politicians and celebrities doing made up stuff.)
Alot of folk in my area believe the only way to save themself from an enemy is to get the enemy to be your freind and let them burn themself to the ground.
I'm libertarian conservative and mostly hang around on the se and not one has mentioned qanon. Hell I don't even know how to find them because I just don't care
It wasn't that Berners went crazy, it was that the crazies were excited about an alternative because they hadn't trusted government for a long time. Believe me, as a campaign volunteer those people were a constant source of face palms.
If anyone out there wants a good laugh about all this nonsense, peep our HILARIOUS pop-punk tune ("Pizza-Gate Princess") about a boy who's attempting to console his conspiracy theory obsessed girlfriend. If you're not laughing and humming the chorus all day after hearing it, you probably believe everything you're fed from an unverified source on the dark web.
The creation of metaphors and parables is to guard against psychological damage, in a way. We dont want to believe in things that may harm us. A certain amount of mysticism protects the psyche. Its a coping mechanism.
It's about discovery, ownership and paranoia. People want to find something significant while they are exploring the internet or just in general. "I found this." It's a sense of discovery. And if it interests them enough then you've done your job, yes? By them finding it, there is also a sense of it belonging to them there for, they have an obligation to get to resolve the issue. " I found that these people are doing ____ and no one knows about it and I ( and other believers) will expose this cover up".
It's hard to be aware of powerful people that don't have names and own most of everything. Also, crazy people will believe anything even the truth and sceptics will doubt everything even the truth.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire Decades of aggressive anti intellectualism in the USA have come to roost.
I always come to Jon's page to get an intelligent, well thought-out discussion of important subjects. Sprinkled with his great humor too! Thanks for sharing your views with us.
Jon Stuart Leibowitz laughs at your obedient trust.
I have a wonderful and visceral reaction to Jon's voice - immediately I feel safe & in an honest space.
Been watching this man for about 28 years, since The Jon Stewart Show on MTV until these new iterations, & in all that time, Jon has always assumed his audience comes informed and is capable of nuance & reflection. An incredibly talented interviewer and all around good dude that Jon.
Helluva guy. Glad to have access to him through TH-cam too - not adding apple tv no matter what lolol
How do you know him? When did you meet? No? You don't know him, you're in love with a marketing image of him.
That's very sad, please get help.
@@mericanignoranc3551 are you ok bud?
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Interesting concept! Someone differs in opinion than yours so they are automatically delusional! Curious, exactly who died and left you boss? Leave the person alone. Go si5 in the corner and meditate. You will feel so much better.
Same here. I also saw him perform at Carnegie Hall!
Here's the thing about Qanon: Qanon was bullshit. But Podesta's emails? Those were real. And so what Qanon did was focus the attention on this stupid plan, nobody looked at these emails and said, "What the fuck is going on here?"
For anybody wondering about the emails, I suggest you look up the documentaries done by Mouthy Buddha. You can find them on Bitchute. But they too, will have you be like, "what the fuck is this shit?"
The problem is that the internet has displaced television as most people's primary news sources. I know as I was once one. After January 6th, I had to finally admit that I was wrong!
Well done to you. It's never easy realizing that your ideas might be wrong.
Good for you. Almost every QAnons mentality is, “ I disagree with this person politically, he must be a p3dofile”.
Your choices of internet news source are only as limited as your curiosity.
Glad to see you back in the real world.
@@emanuelmota7217 very good point! I identify as a Centrist Libertarian, whom is tribally pro-Israel and I genuinely believe that the bloated federal government has gotten WAY Too BIG!
John Stewart is such a great commentator. A really smart guy that from time to time, spices up the heavy topics on his show, with satirical and sardonic humor.
He’s the best. He’s funny and a very smart guy.
You guys.... none of the stuff this guy's attributing to Q was ever said by Q!!! Someone on the boards even asked if JFK Jr. was alive and Q responded NO!!!!
There's not a single mention of adrenochrome or drinking blood or Lizard people or any of that shit!!! You've just been told that's what's in there but you haven't looked for yourselves. I know that for a fact bc none of that shit is in there!!!!
I disagree with him, however, on the "delusional" concept of Russian interference sowing discontent and division in American society. They may not have started it, but they're way too opportunistic to pass up a chance to feed into it and weaken their greatest competitor.
A beautiful conversation! Gabriel did a great piece on Sweden and Malmö a few years ago that is one of the best I have seen - fair, nuanced, balanced. And here he is again, gloves off, just bringing it. And Jon is a national treasure. Loved it!
It never ceases to amaze me that a comedian is one of the best journalist/analyst out there. It's a complement to Jon but it's a condemnation of the journalism industry.
Some of the best comedians deal in truth.
Think George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Chris Rock, Bill Maher, Bill Burr, Dave Chappelle, as well as Jon Stewart.
Yeah I think comedians make the best journalists because they dont take thinks that seriously or at face value. True news people get a big head quick and lose sight of questions to ask. Comedians always ask good questions
@@davidtingley9978 Bill Maher is way too much driven by dogmatism.
@@erikhartog5340 does that really matter if he's not wrong?
It’s because when I read a book chapter on how to create comedy, the core of comedy is noticing truth
I don't always agree with Jon but I sure as hell appreciate his voice on any subject because it is good to ask questions and hear insight
from a different standpoint.
Speaking to what you said about we Americans not accepting responsibility for our own failures, I am glad that we no longer hear the old adage that “ this is not who we are”. We need to understand that this current culture is indicative of who we are and then we can strive to be better
Yep. Own it...ya can't change it if ya don't own it.
QAnon often plays into ego, as well. Like, "I know the real truth" or "You're just sheep, without an understanding of what's really going on" . It also can just be quite fun to be "in" on such alternative "facts and realities".
That's all of it.
I think that's the flip side of Jon's point about feeling powerless. The bad guys are in control which is how I justify my lot in life, but I personally am in the know about them so at least I have some form of power, and in fact am superior to the "sheep" who don't even realize how miserable they are. Any conspiracy theory belief is about rebuilding ego after a legit loss. Let's reframe the story, sometimes the whole world, rather than admit a fair defeat.
@@daviderickson8699 .Excellent points.
Exactly, I say that about people really into many conspiracy theories…they need to feel like life is exciting. Me, I’m fine knowing life is pointless hah.
That it’s fun to be in on certain facts is what makes QAnon attractive to those ppl.. they believe they’re being let in on a secret of sorts
Wow. This contains so many pieces of information that it would have never occur to me to seek, and it establishes so many connections that I otherwise would have struggled to piece together. Bravo. Thrilled Stewart is back! It was great hearing from Mr. Gatehouse.
Gabriel Gatehouse has had a great career as a journalist in UK, and as a Foreign Correspondent. His QAnon investigation was fascinating. Lots of interviews and research went into it. See if you can find the full series on a podcast maybe - BBC Sounds/i-player. 👍 (Originally broadcast on BBC Radio 4 - UK).
Jon is a national treasure. This talk is wonderful and really gets to the heart and the absurdity of the matter.
@@Whelmedfoxen only as direct-to-vhs slasher films. All your goofy Ron Watkins q nonsense has very little evidence. As for pedophiles, yeah probably, but it's not a big pizzagate conspiracy.
@@Whelmedfoxen - The beauty - and curse - of this country is that you can believe in whatever horsecrap you want.
@Sketchy Stuff - Fairytails and bullshirt are still fairytales, whether "the system" bans them for the benefit of a credulous, easily-duped populace or not.
@Sketchy Stuff - I've lived here in the U.S.A. for the majority of my life, and the crap some people choose to believe in is *absolutely pathetic.* If there was a pop blogger telling everyone that aspirin was made out of dead babies and the best way to get rid of headaches was to forcibly inject lead pellets into their hippocampus, you can bet some morons would be shooting themselves in the head. There's gotta be some line for broadcasters to follow, and when you peddle bullshirt to your listeners in the name of 'ratings' or 'controversy', you've just crossed it.
@Sketchy Stuff - I am very glad that I don't share your worldview and attitude. When you don't trust anyone, you'll find that no one trusts *you*, either.
But you Have A Nice Day - if you can, that is!
The search for the comfort of reassurance of the “why’s” in life is universal, but ends in the next one that we face. What I hear from Jon is that we need to move away from the subjective reaction to an objective response to what pops up in our live feed. Until we are able to disconnect from the emotional meat hooks that too much information brings, the power of “opinions” will continue to blind and divide us. Thank you Jon for being clear and calm in these times.
I truly love all of the late night show hosts! I find them all incredible but man I feel we need jon Stewart back
It's so good to see you guys talking with an open mind about it.
It's important to remember that 'We' believe lies either because 'We' want them to be true, or 'We' are a afraid that they are true. Its also important to remember that none of us are immune to those lies and their influence. Good Data, Facts, and an Open Mind are our only chance of overcoming those lies.
yeah, kinda like when some people believe, that when some guy cuts off his dick and puts on a wig, he's suddenly a "woman" :D:D SAME type of delusion as Qanon basically..... both far-left and far-right completely lost it at this point
The right has hate in their heart. It’s the strongest emotion for most people. They want to believe it, power and wealth means more to them than these children they claim to protect.
@@itkojecockot we dont believe they became a natural women, we just think it's not a big deal to consider them what they want to be.
It's not going to in any way shape my day or interfere with me for someone to identify as a male or female. But it sure as hell will make their life better. And if altering the way I refer to someone gives them a better life or a reason to live, why wouldn't I do that?
@@itkojecockot And the sheer fact you act like that means you have not put in even the smallest amount of research as to why a person would want to do such a thing.
Go do some research and listen to that community talk about their lives and how they feel, and maybe you'll get some empathy.
And by the way, empathy is something that is truly lacking in right wing ideology. And for a ground that majorly considers themself to be christian or a follower of christ, they sure as shit dont act like it.
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"Why create parables when that idea is so simple..." Did Jon just ask "why religion?"
It's a good question.
It’s not simple to inspire or teach people to sacrifice desire or their id and ego @ religion. Without seeing the beauty of prophets struggling or messianic figures, people might find such teachings trivial or platitudes. With stories we can imagine a context where the value of these ideas can shine.
@@denialfalls2724 A decent answer. But Jon is a pretty darn bright guy, so I wonder why he couldn't think of a similar answer to his own question. These absurd stories are evocative and emotionally stimulating, so it doesn't shock me when people are drawn to them. (Notice how that last sentence doesn't specify whether I'm talking about religion or q-anon?)
But why such crazy parables? Seems like the further from reality a belief system is, the stronger the “glue” for its faithful supporters
Brain damage, I got old friends that can't even tell a TV-Show from a Documentary.
U joking? Tell them to watch the inter species videos. They r very calming
A lot of my coworkers seem to get their information about history from movies and tv shows!
Yep. My brother believes in mermaids and the secret extra apollo moon mission because he saw the mermaid and rock monsters on a tv show.
Saw them with his own two eyes.
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Gabriel Gatehouse’s podcast - The Coming Storm - is an incredible listen.
Excellent interview John Stuart is so intelligent never disappoints. I will never forget what he did for the firefighters from 9-11.
“Gabriel It’s a classic!” Devastating truth yet absolutely hilarious delivery by Jon
My problems is that those who "believe" don't think it is a parable. We are meant to do our own research but generations of education defunding has removed the ability to think critically.
I think some of this "do your own research" thing tends to lead to the same echo chamber and any opinion outside that first impression is regarded as someone who didn't do their "research," aka you didn't do my research or went through the same rabbit hole I did.
I mean look at all the things they smear China for and how many people just accept it and anyone who says differently is a CCP shill. This is no different than throwing everything at Washington establishment as a blood drinking sex trafficking cabal.
@@questworldmatrix Yes and critical thinking skills would reduce the tendency to fall down those rabbit holes. This is not something that necessarily comes naturally to people especially when confronted with the ability to so easy confirm our biases.
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The Alt-Right agenda for the past 70 years has been to destroy public education so the oligarchs could keep workers in ignorance, paying slave wages with not benefits and not power. They are succeeding thanks to every GOP admin since Reagan. As a college Math teacher, I see the damage every day. Heavy Sigh...
@@m.k.c.5212 I'd hate to be a student of yours if that's what you think. Of course your tribe is different though, right? Too dumb to realize all of those in government benefit from a uneducated society, and not just one side. You're basically like Q at this point, and hopefully some student records you ranting one day.
I think this is the first time I have ever disagreed with Jon... it doesn't "seem almost delusional" it is in fact completely delusional, from the time we can understand the words we are told the America is the best in the world, that we have done no wrong, that we can do no wrong... so, it makes sense that a significant portion of the U.S. has an inability to accept that we have serious issues that are our own fault, and that have even been made by us ourselves...
Absolutely. Epstein's pedo island is completely fake, he just killed himself and was not a Mosad agent
We do get brought up differently in a country this big. I was taught to question "authority" & to question the news from the time I was small, by both my parents and by my public school. I was never told that "America is the best in the world." Never. I do think what you say applies to a "significant portion of the US," but it is far from everyone and everywhere. When a popular & honest candidate came up (Bernie) he wasn't crushed by the people, but by the corporate interests of the DNC & of main stream media. Had he won we would now have the beginnings of medicare4all, student debt would be cancelled, a $15 minimum wage would the law, a Green New Deal would have been launched employing thousands, and on and on. You speak of your own background & it seems you have overcome the close-mindedness of it. Well done. Frankly, I don't know if I would have done as well if I had grown up in a close-minded household and community.
Especially when shows like these refuse to address ANY of those serious issues as many of those current issues involve seriously criticizing Biden and the democratic party.
As an outsider mate trust me America is exceptional and unique in a way it is more free than rest of the countries, it has robust constitution(bill of rights) now I realise that it comes with risk, the freedom to own guns may mean there are alot of more gun violence freedom of speech may mean there will be crackpots being famous by spewing nonsense but as with everything there is positive and negative but the best thing about America has always been that it has been the place where no dream is crazy enough, even the Scandinavian countries like Denmark if people find out you have a dream to be best chef in the world or you have a dream to goto mars people always laugh at you and they try to pull you back to earth, I think US is a place where u can strive to achieve whatever crazy ideas you have people will be supportive, maybe it's just me but there needs to be some places like this in the world hence all the brilliant minds goto US to achieve their dreams yeah even dreamers from Scandinavia goto US lol there are alot of problems in US like rest of the world but do try to keep things in perspective dude
It’s nationalism bordering on brainwashing.
A lot of countries do it. How would you otherwise convince someone to join the military and fight a war about resources that will only benefit the 1% of the 1% who wants to fight the war because it benefits them financially.
Prob came out of a lot of people during the pandemic sitting around bored and talking for hours and hours and nobody was like oh shit I gotta go to work lol
QAnon is not full of "angry Bernie supporters." Wish John would have pushed back on that more.
Then please give my reply above a thumbs up like I did for you. I completely agree with you and can't believe I had to scroll down this far to find someone who saw what I did. In addition, this reporter" is a friggin joke who is obviously fulfilling his own rightwing narrative.
A few angry Bernie supporters voted for Trump just to teach the DNC a lesson, but they don't belong to QAnon. At least the ones I know don't. Nonetheless, I am furious wit them for giving Tyrantosaurus Rex even one extra vote. SMH
It's a completely unfounded statement.
Former Bernie supporters is what he said, people that were going to vote for him or at least said they were. Doesn't necessarily make them progressives. Progressives are useless anyways, theyre like putting a bandaid on a giant ax wound.
They 💯 are.
Lots voted for trump, not just withholding their vote from Hillary.
They went scorched earth and got Trump, feel smart now?
The Dems fucked up rigging it for Hillary over Bernie, but Bernie can't win Americans hate his agenda. He's too smart and progressive for the US.
They deserved trump, and they'll get him again or his kids whoever runs next election.
Man it's great John is back! So refreshing. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪
Jon Stewart is always so spot on! Love his podcast!
I just love that people are talking about Q, any chatter is good chatter!
"The outrageousness of it ", Mr. Jon Stewart is the reason why stories drive cultures, religions, societies. Always been that way, always will be.
Stewart like attention. That all there is to the guy.
Sure, he likes attention. How does he seek it? This makes all the difference. Seeking attention is not in itself a bad thing, only if that takes such a priority that one does not act in good faith.
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Meaning is derived through narrative.
Love the way Jon cuts the bull and gets to the truth of what we all know.
Excellent and informative discussion. Welcome back Jon, you’ve been missed.
Jon your hair looks insane. That skylight is making the top part of your head look like the neon Cruella deVille of the Heavens.
I appreciate your diction and look forward to your novel sir
@@denialfalls2724The honor is indubitably mine, my fine fellow.
Plot twist: there is no skylight.
I think everyone is over analyzing the whole thing. QAnon is literally one guy who is lonely and bored who spends all day reading outrageous hate speech forums from 8chan and spins up new material for impact to keep his forum alive so he gets some ad money. This is not thought by any means out or planned nor connected to any political with security clearence its more like drinking booze alone in a dark room with porn and trying to amuse a fanatic puplic who eats all the garbage you think up and post. Simple...i did sale shit when i was in highschool i just grew out of it these people didnt.
@@jujjuj7676 it doesn’t matter if it’s one guy doing it, it’s the thousands of followers. Trump is also just one guy. So was Hitler. It’s the people who believe the nonsense that are the danger and there’s lots of them.
The lighting giving Jon a luminous platinum blond mop top/ angelic halo needs to either be leaned into or never again, love you jonjon
The world needed Jon Stewart for reason. Give me Smoochie!
There's a great BBC podcast series "The Coming Storm" which covers this topic really well. They even visit a QAnon rally, and I think they're pretty fair about it.
The people are deranged, but also there's a reason for the mistrust and discontent that leads to belief in anything.
Love it! Love you Jon, love your sense of humor! Smiling while I write this 😊
smiling while you write that you are smiling while you write that you are smiling . . .. It's an endless loop with infinite versions of you writing about other infinite versions of you smiling, and that second infinity is also writing about another infinity of smiling you's, who are themselves writing, and so forth.
I love this channel. I could watch it all day and never get bored.
Maybe. But it's the "watching all day" that is likely the problem. We need to turn it all off and go outside, to the garden, to take a walk, to play ball with the kids, dinner with friends.
Thank you for this balanced perspective. I am one who wanted to believe that there was no way "we" could have elected a clown like Trump without outside influence, so I wanted to believe all of the Russia stories. The pee tape was what took me out of that. The man has shown time and time again that he is incapable of feeling shame or being shamed, so why would a pee tape be any kind of leverage? The reality that almost half of the American public sees someone like him as a good leader is much scarier.
I mean, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Russia did in fact help...but I also think Trump probably won even without their help due to the general vote suppression and the likes. Trump giving Putin concessions and free reign to be awful is because Trump loves dictators. Any dictators. He *loves* them.
@@snorpenbass4196 if trump was giving Putin free reign then why didn’t Putin take over Ukraine while trump was office? Putin took over crimea while Obama was in charge. We also killed 300 Russians in Syria while trump was in charge, that doesn’t sound like something someone would do who is in the pocket of Putin.
@@snorpenbass4196 Hey. You don’t have to wonder. The Senate report clearly conceded that Russia interfered to help Trump win. So did the Mueller report. But to be clear he won the electoral college just like Biden did for 2020.
Trump gave Ukraine missiles to defend themselves Russia that Obama did not. Putin took Crimea under Obama as well so who has given Russia more power, certainly not Trump and now under Obama part 2, the worst part being Biden Putin is controlling the narrative again because he sees no credible leadership.
@@danvining2186 Hey Dan. If Putin feared Trump why didn’t he pull out of Crimea? Trump was as impotent as Obama to influence that. Trump doesn’t respect democracy or our constitution. I wish you would judge him on that above all others.
Jon I just heard about a book on another channel. It’s title is “Of Boys and Men” by Richard Reeves. It traces the lack of progress many men and boys in America experience. Especially it traces lack of college degrees. There were two other books I read “The Boy Crisis” by Warren Farrell PHD and “The Once and Future Worker “ by Oren Hass. They all go into the things you are talking about.
For an in depth trip down the QAnon rabbit hole, I thoroughly recommend Van Badham’s book, QAnon and On
I can't find the words to express the gratitude for helping me to more understand the some of the dynamics that is destroying our republic 💔
We have to greatly improve the "fight" to save it...thank you
I love that this guy actually talks about the larp. You dont hear about that in the main stream. It was kids. They were doing it for fun to troll the trolls. I can't remember the exact date, but Q disappear for like two or three weeks at one point and I imagine that's when the kids saw that it was getting to big and past a joke. At that point is when the Watkins father and son team took over the account. They were the only ones who could have done as owners and admins of the site. No one else could have. It was them, period, no allegedly.
This is obviously what happened. The danger of trolling the trolls, they might love it and pull it into the fold
Just an FYI point: in the field of Biblical scholarship, “Q” is a label given to the unknown author(s) of the “Synoptic Gospels” - those parts of each Gospel which have common materials - common recitations of Biblical history.
Big things must have big, behind-the-scenes explanations, one of the hallmarks of conspiratorial thinking.
A journalist in Australia wrote the book on QAnon called 'QAnon and On' by Van Badham. Great read
I remember hearing about Q before the media picked up and thought it was a troll group.
14:53 - a hypothesis is an idea. A theory is a well supported hypothesis. A conspiracy theory is a disproven or highly unlikely hypothesis that is nonetheless still believed.
Always interesting, thank you.
Would you look at that... people having a conversation about things that must not be said on main stream media... refreshing!
I’d venture to say the overwhelming majority of Americans are pretty much just thinking whether to have a second cup of coffee in the morning.
nailed it
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The outlandishness works because it is so outlandish that people believe that it must be true simply because no one would make so outlandish a claim unless it was true AND that despite how easily checked it is, it is only checkable by people around that specific location, which is not the vast majority of followers. And then it becomes just a 'coverup.'
So basically like the bs China has to put up with.
@@questworldmatrix That definitely goes both ways.
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Hey Jon !! I have missed you 🙏 love hearing your calm reasoning. Just found me a new channel !!❤️😍🙏
WHy they are susceptible is the BIG QUESTION, I cannot stop asking!!!!
A Q-anon devotee I know started off watching Alex Jones and is now all the way off the deep end of sanity. They are entirely unencumbered by reality and factually impervious; there's NO talking with them. None. Hopelessly lost.
It’s too late for most Q-anon believers. I see it every day and it scares the hell out of me.
Nobody becomes a qanon supporter overnight and they will not stop overnight. It is worth talking to them and listening to them. And once they feel you have listened to them, they may be more amenable to what you say to them. A very difficult thing to do admittedly. But when you outright reject them they they fall back into the arms and safe haven of fellow qanon followers where they feel they are being listened to. Just put your best argument to them and leave and hopefully it will slowly marinate into their thinking. For instance the basic cause that seems to bring people into qanon is fighting child abuse. Well say that you are also concerned about that problem but you looked into it and you have yet to find any examples of qanon people saving any children from anywhere. This goes to the very root of their thinking. Then they'll either go away and check it out or not. But at least you addressed their issue which is what they are looking for.
Sorry if that was a bit long winded.
When dude claims QAnon consist of many Bernie supporters, I checked out. It's completely unfounded.
Find pictures from the Philadelphia Democratic Convention. There was a giant TV on a small flatbed circling with a Lock Hilary up ad playing. The hard core Bernie supports were fanatical as trump supporters became
@@dirkbonesteel So how would you know they were Bernie supporters and not just a Republican protester? Try harder.
@@conchobar I was there, they were loud about it and had signs. Heard if not Bernie, we will vote trump, to a alarming degree
@@conchobar do you combat this thought because you are a Bernie supporter?
That's kind of the point.
You aren't affected by or embodied by anyone but yourself regardless of who anyone else supports. That's only an identity if you choose it to be.
Well you certainly did your own research. Glad you know better then a salaried journalist
When you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, ignorant and stupid theories makes one feel smart because they seem so plausible to those dull knives.
What if you're someone who goes around insulting other people's intelligence... do u think that has anything to do with it?
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" George Carlin.
I always that the theory that Q was 100 percent a troll fucking with anybody would just believe whatever they said, but the concept that this may have started with an RP is blowing my mind.
Very awesome discussion. WELL DONE JON!
I compare Qanoners to hardcore video game addicts. What they are so hooked on is escaping from mundane real life into a fantasy world where they get to play hero of the story. And like any addict they have to hit rock bottom before finally deciding they want to get better.
The ending sequence is worth reviewing.
John makes an excellent point for the culture in America - our society created the perfect environment for Q to even exist in the first place.
Makes you think...
Yup. Discredit and devalue evidence. Created a situation where a claim made is given as much credit as proof supplied. Where people are never held accountable for what they say. Where the media and political zeitgeist never dwell on a single point for longer than it takes for the next one to surface. It’s a system of blitzkrieg propaganda. A race to say the next outrageous point before they can even let the previous one sink in. Trump mastered this one, and all it would have taken was for the media to refuse to move on to the next point until they’ve raked the people responsible over the coals for the first one.
Wasn't Bannon & his recruited gamer boys the source?
It's modern-day secular gnosticism. It caters to that special feeling people have when they think they're in the know because theyve figured out something the rest of us are too dumb to get.
He makes some great points, as easy as it is to ridicule the tin-foil hat crowd, I've always felt that conspiracy theories aren't the problem, but symptoms of a system that left a large crowd completely disenfranchised and disillusioned.
The right wing ALWAYS said this WOULD happen, and people THEN called them crazy fringe racists.... Just like they do today. Except NOW, they have been proven RIGHT by history.... We DO infact see division, racial tensions, global pandemics, endless migrant streams, whites feeling displaced in their own communities.... ALL the things we said were going to happen.
@@monopalle5768 Don't really know what to make of that response, but I know the answer to decades of neo-liberalism isn't neo-facism.
@@deltav864 Its a natural consequence, of leftist/globalist policy. We said it WOULD happen, and it IS happening..... It's very simple.... A lot of people, DEMAND a nation, with security and predictability, and independance from people who think differently... It's how WE COPE with being alive... It's how we invest and save for retirement, provide for our kids... Historically, even in tribal days, people would ALWAYS kill for that... It's not a political agenda, it's a fact of life, like how we need oxygen, and have a sex drive... Those things are not political. They PRECEDE all those words and agendas.
@@deltav864 -We recognize that we are humans, and limited to being humans.... ... Our political view point is that we shoould have the RIGHT to be humans, in our natural state.... Like I also believe for any other animal.... -It's natural to have a culture, and if you undermine my culture, I will resist, because my culture helps my survival and reproductive chances... Its like basic logic more than agenda.
@@monopalle5768 People who think differently from you are not your enemy. They have the same rights that you have. Just because you think your next door neighbor is some kind of leftist doesn't mean they are to blame for racial tensions and white folk feeling discriminated against because nonwhites are advocating a less racist country. The fact that you demand independence from people who think differently from you demonstrates clearly how unAmerican you are.
"The right wing ALWAYS said this WOULD happen, and people THEN called them crazy fringe racists"
The reason you are called a crazy fringe racist is because you are a crazy fringe racist.
Dry your eyes little trooper.
The opening to the rabbit whole is the word "maybe".
I don't see that a lot of Bernie supporters are Q's, what?! I see a lot of more on the religious fundamentalist gravitate towards the QAnon.
I enjoy Jon Stewart’s insightful and intelligent analysis of the issues of our times, but I do miss the old Jon Stewart from Comedy Central who tore into these same types of issues with biting sarcasm and sometimes an almost outrageously entertaining humor. There’s just an element, almost I can’t quite articulate or put my finger on, that is missing in the presentation and discussions today.
comical
I'm just tuning in. It sucks people in who are good people (UK here).
"Only the true Messiah would deny his divinity "--- Monty Python
Me being a massive Bernie supporter and my network of friends, I have no idea what this man is speaking about with regards to Bernie or qanon
Anti Hilary sentiment? The leaked emails regarding the Podestas?
Would love to see Jon interview more people with opposing opinions and allow them to show their own colors in his witty genius way without being ugly. The same witty comedic way he would dismantle Fox commentators
I like to watch Jon asking smart questions..
Lols. “A lot of Q people were Bernie supporters.”
Why isn't it good to be skeptical? We should question everything the government does.
If "the internet" can target me with specific ads within seconds of opening a window in TH-cam; why can't MicroSoft, Google, Apple et. al. get together and find Q? Somebody originated this shit.
Many Americans see the UK as a socialist country because we have free healthcare (introduced by a socialist government) and a strong welfare net (likewise). Our Conservative Party is able to weaken it occasionally, but it is essentially enshrined (for now) in our governmental structure.
I live in the US, but can someone tell me what "Q" is? The way they talk about how it has "metastasized" in this country, surely, I would've encountered this "entity" somewhere... I don't watch or listen to media sources, maybe that's why. But I digress...
The guy who bought 8 Chan and then took on the incarnation of Q was an American ex-pat named Watkins. And now his son has seemingly inherited the title of Q and is, I believe, running for a Congressional seat.
Confused to hear nonsense that Bernie supporters fell into Qanon rhetoric. Most people who were Bernie supporters were unhappy because they ended up voting for Hillary. The population of left leaning Qanon followers is so small and fringe it makes me discount a lot of what this person has to say as sensational op-ed dogma
This episode is full of false equivalences of muh both sides imo
"Why look for conspiracy theories when stupidity explains so much"
Johann Von Goethe
To solve the question of why people love QAnon one must define the question.
Simply, QAnon is an interactive, internet-based game based on a Reality-TV premise of governance. Think WWE but with governance instead of sports and throw in the interactivity of gaming.
How to create a QAnon.
* First set the topic: governance as entertainment ... child traffic ... etc.
* Second, choose characters from the real world - politicians and celebrities.
* Third, through a show runner (Q in this game) assign false motives, plots, intrigue, heroes, villians, etc. and capture them into story arcs which weave the real world and the fake world.
* Fourth, add interactivity so that the audience can participate in the story ... find clues, build andd share linkages between plot elements, add new content, etc.
* Fifth, role out new content to maintain interest.
How to get the game started ... simple don't tell them it is a game, otherwise it won't work. Think War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells ... that form of entertainment wouldn't have worked if the audience knew ahead of time that it was fake.
How to stop the game ... how do you break your teenager's addiction to video gaming ... not sure. Educate the population that QAnon is a game and like War of the Worlds many were duped ... nothing to be embarrassed about
Personally, I think such games based on governance should be illegal. Such a law could be constructed ... one that allows "Veep" (fake politicians doing funny stuff) and not QAnon (real world politicians and celebrities doing made up stuff.)
Alot of folk in my area believe the only way to save themself from an enemy is to get the enemy to be your freind and let them burn themself to the ground.
I'm libertarian conservative and mostly hang around on the se and not one has mentioned qanon. Hell I don't even know how to find them because I just don't care
not gonna lie, for 1 second I was like, "Lt. Dan is... BRITISH?!"
I was looking at Jon thinking his head is on fire! Then he starts talking about fire! 🤣🤣🤣
It wasn't that Berners went crazy, it was that the crazies were excited about an alternative because they hadn't trusted government for a long time. Believe me, as a campaign volunteer those people were a constant source of face palms.
Thanks man.😇
If anyone out there wants a good laugh about all this nonsense, peep our HILARIOUS pop-punk tune ("Pizza-Gate Princess") about a boy who's attempting to console his conspiracy theory obsessed girlfriend. If you're not laughing and humming the chorus all day after hearing it, you probably believe everything you're fed from an unverified source on the dark web.
You have a rip down the middle of your screen. Might wanna get that fixed.
Believing in a qanon or whatever really cheapens life. And life is cheap for many people despite their resources or potential
This reminds me of "Star Chamber"
The creation of metaphors and parables is to guard against psychological damage, in a way. We dont want to believe in things that may harm us. A certain amount of mysticism protects the psyche. Its a coping mechanism.
Roll play!!!! OMG I'm laughing so much. I'm a part of amine and dnd so this is enlightening and hilarious.
It's about discovery, ownership and paranoia. People want to find something significant while they are exploring the internet or just in general. "I found this." It's a sense of discovery. And if it interests them enough then you've done your job, yes? By them finding it, there is also a sense of it belonging to them there for, they have an obligation to get to resolve the issue. " I found that these people are doing ____ and no one knows about it and I ( and other believers) will expose this cover up".
Incredibly accurate
It's hard to be aware of powerful people that don't have names and own most of everything. Also, crazy people will believe anything even the truth and sceptics will doubt everything even the truth.
Think myth = there is a grain of truth in everyone.
There's a FBI agent and a CIA op saying chicken horns and goat eggs somewhere right now , ha ha ha
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
Decades of aggressive anti intellectualism in the USA have come to roost.
without money there's no need for disinformation or propoganda... money is the only incentive to lie for all reasons....
Maybe next they will talk about Covid hysteria lol