Awesome Bigfoot Sounds Caught On Video with Barb & Gabby
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Hello everybody! This week, we have some awesome, new Bigfoot sounds for you, caught on video. First, we go for a walk through the woods with some of our favorite friends, Then, later that same day, Sandy, Gabby and I go back out and have an amazing experience!
Love your dog....remember if the dog senses something and stops won't go forward, that usually means what's ahead isn't friendly. Stay safe my friend.
Watching from Australia just subscibed!
Very interesting indeed. I live up North of ya near OSO, WA just down from the landslide area. I have seen and heard many strange goings on as well as really bad stench's near the edge of the river. Be safe.
why don't you have a drone in your hand ready to go and the second you hear a sound, start it and fly up and around in the direction of the sound? you'll catch way more ground that way.
awesome video chilling vocals I be scared but amazed at the same time, they say there is a distant smell in the air during bigfoot sighting have you guys ever noticed it , I am becoming a believer through your videos :)
Thank you, Angela! Every now and then, there is a funky smell around the swamp, but I have never noticed any odors that I could say were from the bigfoots. I think the odor, that is sometimes reported, is probably stress related. Although, I have heard that the females have a cinnamon type of odor. :)
After Listening to Barb all day.......... no wonder Sasquatch abducts women.
Smart Ladies!! I've heard another story about a man who was sitting outside his camper smoking a pipe with sweet tobacco. And there was alot of activity around his camper that night, and knocking and noise broken trees, etc. They seemed to love the sweet tobacco aroma of a woody fire. I was thinking food would really excite them - even bbq meat! :)
0:41 So the bigfoot did leave that peanut butter jar after HE bought from walmarr and ate it last week.!!!
Damnn litter BeeFee!!!
I know you guys know how to stay , please keep your sweet dog safe 🙏🏻💕
Really like your videos, thanks for sharing. I'm jealous of your cabin in the woods.
Food ideas, have you ever left carrots, onions or potatoes ? Just a thought . Probably be cheaper than pies and peanut butter all the time. Keep up the good work & I'll keep watching .
Thank you, WH! And you are very welcome! We have left vegetables before. Carrots, potatoes, spinach, tomatoes, garlic... They other than mashing the tomatoes, they showed no interest. :)
Barb, great video!
Thanks, Bev! :)
Love you guys can’t out much due to a stroke before Christmas this keeps me going
I pray you ard doing well! My best to you ☺
Mari Mar I hope your doing well it doesn’t say anything about talking in tounges
Sorry was meant to be for someone else
Thanks for posting your walk up the trail (don't fall though). You live in such a beautiful place. Run a test at your home with one of the recorders and see if it turns off there.
You are welcome Michelle! I thought you would enjoy that. Thanks for the suggestion! That's a great idea! :)
Thank you so much. I always look forward to watching when I see an alert that you have posted again. I would definitely think they were saying...........where's the peanut butter???? Here is a clue :) What I was wondering is whether it is your opinion that these forest people seem to prefer cool temperate to snowy climates? Even in Australia they seem to like the mountainous, cooler climates. Just wondering what your thoughts were on this?
You are very welcome, Fliss! I think they would enjoy pleasant weather as much as we do. But, I don't think temperature is why they live at high elevations. I think that thick woods, water and a steady food source are more likely to influence where they live. Whether it's up high in the mountains, along coastal beaches, or anywhere in between. :)
I saw something also at 3.31 and the dog was looking in that direction also
wow u caught vocals on video!:)) I coukdnt see the sounds though.. i did hear it.
Up where she’s at when the big guys are around everything goes silent. No birds, squirrels, and even the bugs go quiet. It is like everything can feel the malevolence in the air...
Gabby is a huge asset to you.
Enjoy watching your work Barb! I was curious if you have watched the video documentary from user FirAndCedar "Speaking of Sasquatch" based on Mike Pattersons work? If so whats your opinion of his work based on your local interactions?
Hi Randy! I'm sorry, I'm not familiar that. :)
Mike Patterson 🤣🤣🤣🤣it was all a hoax
5:33 so much is going on it boggles my mind
I see 2 peekers almost dead center , slightly under...one like 13 ft tall and two sets of beady eyes to the right top
Cloaked close and personal
wow! good spotting!
they are getting to trust you!
Older smaller one top left
SuperAcedos Just a bunch of trees...
At 13.57 I saw 2 dark shapes in the back ground, the dark shape on the left side seemed to move a little.
Hard to make people believe, but it is equally as hard to make people believe it when they hear EVP's that we captured on a Sony voice recorder and SB7 Spirit Box. Only people there was my son, my wife and I. No way to explain voices answering questions that we asked, especially right when I was asking a question above the grave of a child that died in a car accident. "Help me..." came over twice.
+2DSTORMS I believe the sounds, just don't know what they are.
Why not leave something very tasty in a large container that takes more brute strength than a human has to open it, and more coordination than a bear has. See what you find and what angry sounds you record with a recorder that turns on only when there is sound ("voice-activated"). Easy, easy. There are paternity test kits sold at drugstores, and you can perform a free public service by sending "your" cheek swab DNA to a vast databank. If you have a jar that has been licked clean, you can make a cheek swab from the dry saliva by adding a tiny bit of water to the swab and swabbing the inside of the jar. In either case, you would hear back "WTF kind of joke is this?!" form the testing lab. If they knew it wasn't human but it was oddly close, they would be freaked out. You CAN get this solid evidence if you're willing to risk that it's an intelligent bear. I have a very smart dog that can open ANY jar with her mouth and very few to no bite marks. The jar isn't licked clean past the halfway mark only because her snout isn't that long....but I have found several jars over the years where I dropped a bag of groceries and was too tired to put them away. She could also (in her prime) leap straight up 3.5 ft to a shelf and remove a small box without disturbing anything else or falling into the toilet next to that shelf. I think Sasquatch exists, but do something more if you really want to know or convince others. P.S. One of you has a very bad smoker's cough and desperately needs to quit smoking NOW. Otherwise, there is, at a minimum, an oxygen tank in your future....and that would be a terrible shame. It would limit your trips to the great outdoors.
P.S. She is a 20 lb Jack Russell terrier and was very athletic, too....but 3.5 feet is a long way for her!
They are crazy going out for n the woods at night.
I wonder if it would make a difference, whether Sasquatch have a preference, between organic treats, say, organic apples versus "whatever" apples, the cheapest one could find in the store, or obviously GMO food type treats. My understanding is that GMO food has absolutely no life force energy, have as much food value as eating cardboard, whereas organic food has actual life force energy in it.
I'm 99.9 percent positive that you caught it at 3:31! If not, that stump sure looked like a foot
Hello, you guys still alive? Update?
Barb, I am just guessing here. But, if Gabby gets "nervous and watchful" as you call it. Don't you think you should be thinking of your protection as well? I am not sure I have ever asked this, but do you carry bear mace? Handgun or anything for your personal protection? I am not in anyway a bigfoot researcher. I do spend a lot of time in the woods. And w/black and brown bear being on my island in S.E. Alaska. I always take some sort of protection in the woods w/me. I know what the odds are. However, everyone once in a while someone hits the lottery and gets mauled by a bear. We walk our lab mix almost everyday on logging roads. Every once in a while she will come running out of the woods w/her hackles up, and growling at what ever she just thinks she escaped from. This can put a person on edge just a little bit. Okay, here is my point. I do watch a lot of videos. And some of the people who are also bigfoot researchers, think that rock throwing, tree knocking and screaming is a way of trying to say, "This my area! Get out! And, also the X's are a "Don't trespass"! sign. In other words, they (Sasquatch) may not be as gentle and a lot of people think. Please don't misunderstand I enjoy your video's. They are a "hoot" to watch, and I hope that you and Gabby, as well as the rest of your gang get real and compelling evidence. I also, hope no one gets hurt in the process. Good luck. Stay safe. Regards, Ralph
Ralph Duddles I agree i would definitely be carrying protection. A rifle and a knife.
You enjoy warnings
Brave ladies!
Wouldn't the objects smell have there scent ? Many say that there scent is so bad it lingers on with many objects they. Handle... Especially the jars after taking the peanut butter out it should smell strong days later..
Im sure you get asked this alot but how do you know its "them" when it could be some curious foxes or deer or a rodent that roams the forest??
+Gina “Mecha Lover” Pureheart Hi Gina, without seeing what made the sound, we can never be 100% sure what made it. But, we have become familiar with these types of sounds and they are often associated with footprints and other activity. :)
What really got me into Bigfooting was a video that was uploaded in 2012 where this couple and their two dogs were stuck in the middle of a forest in California With a broken down truck, I forget the name but they were in the middle of nowhere and from 10 to 12 midnight they were hearing None stop vocalizations of bigfoot or supposed bigfoot and it was really awesome and weird because they sounded humanlike but not human
+Gina “Mecha Lover” Pureheart ..yep you are correct Gina..i heard it too a few years ago..it was totaly Eerily Amazing!
I like that scary video also but i could have been dogs....but i like to pretend when i watch it.
+Usalia TotoBunny That is the audio from the Clipper Mills video. The same sounds I would hear in the late 70's-80's when camping in Yosemite & Sierra Nevada forest, so yes, I believe them very representative of BF calls.
have you ever had any of the gifts tested for DNA?
I was told by other experts that DNA testing starts at 6000 dollars and may come back as inconclusive
When it comes back inconclusive it then disappears. Even in Russia.
Message meant we want peanut butter
take a cow bell and cover it completly in super glue😂😂😂but alot of super glue😎😎😎there you can hear when squashy is moving
I don't think you understand how superglue works. This isn't loony toons.
Bigfoot is doing a good study on these ladies :) Bigfoot 1, "They seem highly intelligent." Bigfoot 2 "Meh, I clearly requested more peanut butter by leaving last week's empty jar and they didn't understand."
The third BF says...dont worry they are getting plumper, soon they will be chubby enough for harvesting. I hear they taste just like chicken
12:16 if you look to the left of the red stump, left screen you can see one peeking around the bottom of the stump, right above the reddish wood with the moss on it left screen also at 12:29 its in the bottom left screen corner
Where are the birds???
All them cameras and all you get are sounds. When will people give it up?
stop at 1335 and look on right side
You do know that they would rather you not be there. They always travel in 3 or 4 males at a time.
When I lived in Oregon my best friends family had a home very deep in the forest and the house had a old ranger station tower and they had animals , goats, chickens and a cow.
A very large male killed the goats and chickens and went after the dogs at cows. They often can be aggressive. Some of the large males don't want gifts ! They want you gone.
I've had close calls and damage toy car from these guys. Just watch yourself.
Hey is this the piece that had the peeker ? if not, you had another one:)
@ 11:31 and 32 :)
N E ways love your posts and Love Gabby:)
Center left of the foreground tree, behind a stump, or bank. Between the tree, and the smaller white one to the left.
Pan it, and you will see.
mrralleycat Good catch! I'll take a look at what's there and see if I can recreate it. :)
You can see it before the camera pans, and it is lost behind the smaller tree to the left. Just for those who will say it's a leaf. Then you see it again between the two trees. That's when it drops below the bank.
mrralleycat Look @ 11:28. That is where it's clear, just before it is lost behind the smaller tree :)
Movement at5:29
Coned Head beady eyes dead center in the brush@6:45
nah that was Gabby
Anyone else jump,when the stick hit the camera?
Apparently, a good way to deter the sasquatch is to play crappy pop music, very loud (eg. The Spice Girls, Take That, Bieber, Cyrus, Perry or any of those crappy 1980s hair spray rock bands). It usually works, but (unless you want to attract them) it is best to avoid classical, folk and blues as they have a penchant for that type of music.
An owl perhaps?
Or a tree frog
Which God does bigfoot pray to?
no beef jerkey ??? cchhh
Ese pie grande es un animal salvaje, y si se siente intimidado atacará👍👍👍✌
Hey good work team if you need another team to talk with and go over evidence with just subscribe and comment
put the time in the description so we can go right to it for God's sake
1:27 what is gabby staring at
Montney - right? It starts at like .57 and she’s looking around with quick head movements.
I believe you, ive seen them cloaking in your videos alot, and its looks alot like the movie predator how they cloaked.... BUT LADY PLEASE TRY TO KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU ARE TAKING A VIDEO THAT YOU WANT OTHERS TO WATCH. WALKING WITH THE CAMERA BOUNCING AROUND EVERYWHERE, CONSTANTLY SPIN THE CAMERA SIDE TO SIDE DOES NOT HELP US SEE ANYTHING, ITS FRUSTRATING AND INFURIATING WHEN YOU DO SPOT ONE CLOAKING BUT YOUR CAMERA SKILLS SEEM TO FALL BY THE WAY SIDE. TAKE A FEW STEPS, STOP, WAIT ABOUT 7 SECONDS, PAN AROUND, TAKE ANOTHER FEW STEPS, STOP.
Sounds heard starting @7:48
It's funny how quiet the dog is. He senses something. He's so cute.
Has anyone thought of leaving a small chalk board with some writing or drawing on it? And leave some chalk.
Maybe a phone so they could call
Instead of listening, they talk over the sounds! HUSH!!!
I love hearing them, I have only heard one one time and it was so close that it made the hair on my neck stand up. Wished I could go back and see if I could hear it again.
I don't think they will like that cow bell one bit or that candle either. I don't mean to be rude, but why do you leave them useless items you know they can't use or eat? I'm curious to your reasoning behind that. How long do you leave an item out before you replace it with something new? One researcher says his tree chimes still hang in the tree 4 years after he put it there. There are just some things that don't appeal to them, so why gift them?
Thomas Turner please do.
Why do you feed them? They have spiritual powers, I wouldn't do that if I were you..
Lol um ok👌
At the very least, don’t give them refined sugary foods that will promote cavities. Are you hoping to give them toothaches?
Spiritual its a amimal ive hear interdimensional too right why ppl gotta make things into something totally put theor is why peaple dont belieave the believable and ignore the reallity its possable to have these creature's hear
Bert Clayton has yeah, neither have I.
I see you have a big heart and you want them try something new. Should stick to foods that is available in wilderness for them otherwise they may break in your home looking for peanutbutter or candy that will rot their teeth.They need to stay in forest not near homes looking for goodies. So be careful ! Peace!
Interesting but be optimistic raccoons squirrels and other Woodland creatures would be interested in those tasty treats.... When you think so
put out blueberries, they seem to love them
FYI - I have a Gopro camera which I take on my my bike rides. It has a mode where you can have it take a photo at various intervals up to 1 minute. Very simple, only has two buttons. Depending on your memory card and battery pack life, it could take photos for several days. The camera itself is only 2" x 1.5" x 0.75" so could be hidden in just about anything and only the lens need to be exposed and that is only 0.5" in diameter in size. Someone with woodworking skills could even hollow out a section of a log that it could be put into. Or something like a bird house that could be nailed to tree and locked shut. Has wide field of view so could be put 10+' away from the gifting area.
sounds great why dont you post the link so we can get one?
Cool video. If u still have the jar lid, U should measure the space between the canine teeth. Thats what I think they are.. Primates have canines And nothing can open a jar without an opposable thumb. Has to be BF. Couldnt be anything else. Unless someone is playing a joke on u?
Hi CaliforniaPickin! That's a good idea! I'll compare the size to the ones on the pb seal too. :)
Did you ever consider they might have a peanut allergy?
That’s a human condition.
I saw & heard a sasquatch - both a vocal call & other noises - 2 days ago while camping in San Jacinto at the Msrion Mountain campground. I am not a "bigfoot" hunter/aficionado/seeker, although I have always believed that they exist. Further, I had no knowledge of the sounds, calls & behavior exhibited, until I Googled it today, then searched sasquatch/bigfoot recordings on TH-cam. Interestingly, not only did I see him/her & hear a call around dusk, but as I was returning to the tent after a 2am trip to the nasty pit toilets to tinkle, I heard several sounds which resembled sticks & rocks banging together (another behavior I knew nothing about until a few minutes ago).
For whatever reason, he/she seemed to be specifically interested in me. I wonder if it's because I'm known as a sort of Dr. Doolittle to my friends & family; animals & even insects seem to respond to me in unusually favorable ways. For instance, when there's a fly in the house, I talk to it for awhile, explaining that they're safe with me & that I'll gladly take them outside (but that the other people & animals aren't safe). They will almost always land on my outstretched hand/arm & allow me to give them a ride out the door. The same happens with ants, except that they generally leave on their own, rather than me escorting them. Nobody believes it, until they see it with their own eyes. I also refuse to kill an insect under any circumstances (even the ones I'm afraid of). I wonder if he/she sensed that about me? In any case, I feel fortunate to have had that experience!
Great, you’ll probably enjoy J. Allen Boone’s book ‘Kinship With All Life’. He talks about his encounters with both animals and insects.
@@theoddfather7647 Awesome! I'll definitely check them out! Thanks for this!
Barbara why is your camera so bad? It's very shaky, does it not have a stabilising feature? 😊❤️🦋
Cara matimong it's an iPod attached to my walking stick. :)
if a bigfoot was making sound it was not on the recordings
+Dennis Bowman There are 3 hollars, the 4th one obscured by one of the ladies talking. 1st starts @7:48, then another set follows the text annotation. I have to use headphones to hear but then I'm 68yrs old *blush*
thats what i thought too! It seemed to be edited in
jim halcom No, it’s behind the background noise, if you know what I mean!
I would never go hiking without my Great Pyrenees! We had an experience in the Boise National Forest last month. Tree knocking on the trail,. The next morning, a wolf pack. Denali kept us safe. Dogs just know.
Hi Barb & Gabby! I just wanted to let you and your group know how much I enjoy and appreciate your videos. Not to mention all the research and hard work you and your partners put into this amazing elusive creature. I subscribed only a short time ago and I'm hooked! Thank you very much and keep up the great work!
Thomas Kemp Thank you, Thomas! You are very welcome! :)
Aawww dats so cute they brought the lid back to you to bring back peanut butter. I believe their out there i have bigfoot prints o found righy behind my sisters house last year July 2015. Right by the dining room window . but thats cute giving you a hint he wants peanut butter..
Oh my gosh, Gabby is CUTE!!! She leads you, and always makes sure you're with her. Such a sweet girl!!!! ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Jim, Gabby died last year!
When your camera hit that's branch, it scared the crap outta me, lol
So dangerous to leave food in the forest bears won't walk a way will attack you!
Uh no, they won't.
I wait for it. Some Action
Racoons can open jars they have little fingers and can get in all kinds of stuff.
DNA? Jars?
Sounds like a dogman!😮😮😮
At 11:20
Why are all those trees and branches broken into shapes?? Then the dog gets all sketchy like it feels some kind of energy. Think about that, people. Man come on wtf!
Is there one that bothers you
She said something like the x's were welcoming signs .. they can think that but seriously I wouldn't go near any signage or beding def asking for trouble and for the love of god plz don't tell me these ppl don't think dogmen are protectors and are cute and cuddly . 😒😒anyway great video
I love seeing Gabby again !!!! Pretty Girl !!!!
Sooo... If bigfoot be coming in to bait and love peanut butter. Drug the peanut butter (horse tranquilizer). Take good CLEAR pics of the bigfeets passed out.
Leaving them food is not a good opinion in my view. You have no idea what these creatures are capable of!!! You people even sound as you've met them! Perfect example it's getting dark and you wouldn't know if the were 10 FT from you!!! Won't be laughing next time they surround you!!!
The Best Fed Bigfoot on the Planet...
You ladies need to be so much more careful than you are. I don't think you understand that you should have a side arm and bear mace at LEAST! Juvenile males are driven by their hormones at a very early age and would think nothing of attacking a lone female. Please be smart and don't go out alone anymore. What if u run into a bear or big cat if nothing else? And if Gabby ever refused to move further or tried to turn back, please take her advice and follow her. She knows when they are around. Dogs are aware of their presence always. I enjoy your videos but I worry for you all.
I agree and there is always more safety in numbers and stay out of the woods once it start to get dark
And you know this because....
nothing to worry about they have Gabby as an offering
Yeah she's right we are driven by our hormones at a very early age.. and juvie Bigfoots are to ladies lol 😏😉🐒🙊 please be careful 😳🐵
um .... are you trying to make them ill? Marshmallow cream!!!!.... is not actual food.... they love sweet potatoes....raw vegetables.... marshmallow cream....for gods sakes......hahahha really?
ok I'm just going to say this, I have had experiences growing up, but seriously they are very strong if you want to be sure it's them then the lid needs to be as tight as you can get it. just saying!
I want to believe, not being super skeptical, want to believe, but why not bring bloodhound in these areas and see what they can find. All these foot prints and so on, bring in some hounds. Professional dogs who are trained to find stuff. Several teams of them, why so hard to do? That way we can have a better chance of getting to the bottom of this. I want to know. I believe, or want to believe, but just seems no one is really trying to make this definitive. Too serious of an issue to have people putting peeanutbutter and candy out to get evidence. Nothing against theses peoples efforts, just saying let's step up our game some. If there were escaped convicts running loose, would we put candy out to find them lol. I just want to know, the world wants to know, if these beings exscist. I live in West Virginia and understand how something could be in these mountains and go undetected and this is just little West Virginia. The truth will come out one day, let's just be a little smarter helping it come to pass.
Hi i like to plant fruit trees and food plants when i go in the woods but not just for bigfoot but food plots for all the creatures pecans and pawpaw trees chestnut and hazelnuts, service berries and mulberries, burdock and open minded to wild plants and foods like wild raspberries that grow wild in the mountains plums peaches and apples and believe it or not stinging nettle is very nutritious now these bigfoot people are smarter than what people give them credit for maybe even smarter than us! Draw pictures and leave pencils and paper also fruit juice and grapes, honey, bread,cheese ,strawberry preserves . Of you leave bananas or oranges they need to be peeled...leave photos of you and your dog and perhaps a book of different animals around the world... you might be surprised mabe a childs toy that you point the arrow to and pull the string and it makes the sound of that animals...another words don't just treat them as just some dumb Ape! There not! Good luck!
Don't knock back if you hear them or call them. They just might come to you and you will just be another disappearance
2:12 that woman has a deep voice.
thats a man
bruh lol XD
Barb! I spotted what may be a Wolf? at 03:43 top right corner screen ... took a screen shot, cropped and enhanced the contrast and sharpened it a little .... posted on g+ ! there's also what appears to be a face and partial shoulder close by ... Gabby girl is looking in that direction as well! Was she the only Dog with you?
Kristoph Charles Please tell me who Jacob is? Did you take a look at the zoomed pic as well? See >plus.google.com/u/0/114193012143575879803/posts/2vhngQqinY8?pid=6111880765511985410&oid=114193012143575879803&authkey=CMCf9vflqpWGpAE
Hi Kris! Jacob? Who is Jacob?
Barbara Shupe I just figured out who Jacob is ... the Werewolf from Twilight!! LOL Great zensa humor! lmao
Lindi Smith Lol! Now I get it! That's funny! Thank you for sending the pic. I'm sorry, but there just isn't enough to say for sure what it is. Definitely could be, though. They were around! :)
Barbara Shupe I want to see also...would you share...blackwater@kccalaska.net. ...colleen
Nice vocalizations! The sun was setting and they were coming in for the night. I wonder if they knew you were on the trail? -- Mojo....
Thanks Mojo! I think they were happy about the beautiful weather! It was such a nice day! :)
Oh, I'm sure they knew exactly where those ladies were.
You really shouldn't feed them human junk foods. Peanut butter and apples should work just fine. Leave out the other crap
These people are strange Ive always heard the worst thing you can do is feed any wild animal for one you dont know what foods can hurt them, and they can become dependent, not to mention spreading of disease which they havn't built immunities to seems very self serving.
Raccoons can open jars.
i have heard that same calls above Elbe a few years ago.
Very cool, Bob! That's another very active area! :)
was it an owl?
Everybody should know not to feed wild animals. It's a gifting area not a pantry
That's one very clean peanut butter jar!!!! You ever tried to get aaaaalllll the peanut butter out! Even a the squatches giant dick beaters can't do it😁
Gabby is a beautiful friend. Thanks for the share. An amazing subject to me. We are here to learn.
I just measured the space between my canine teeth , and I come up with about 2" on center. The teeth patterns u show, look to be 3." on center or more ! Space between canines can give u approx size of jaw, and therefore skull size, and therefore
height / size of this creature . Im certain that gorillas have a more rounded upper jaw, which would make the canines farther apart. Ours is more narrow. U might research those ratios further. I think that is some real good evidence! I dont think its a bear.
I'm 5'-10" tall. I think our creature would be at least one foot taller than me, Min, to have a space that big. I think we got us a 7 ft or taller creature out there in your neck of the woods.
CaliforniaPickin well that's some very interesting cyphering! Thank you very much! 11, 12 and 14 inch tracks are the most recent finds. :)
Barbara Shupe whst do you see. Ease sen d me picx. Is it a dogman?....