This is what happens if both games developed in the same genre with the same game engine (Unreal Engine 4), they both similarly beautiful. And tbh for me, Project Wingman is kinda badass since it's an indie game (with small budget & small team) and yet can maintain the great visual quality like the AAA game of ace combat 7 (big budget & big team).
not just graphically, overall it seems to have good soundtrack too, and the cheesy ac voice acting on radio, they seemed to really have made a complete ac package with indie resources
that's what you can expect from someone who actually a really ace combat fans and consistently active at ace combat subreddit and also has a team with a same dedication like you, at the core they not only making a game just for money but also making a game because of passion of what they like and most importantly not limited by anything that forced you to do anything
Its sort of easy getting the lighting and post process to the level of ace combat, the real impression here is the amount of effort in map designing, models, dialogue which is on par or maybe even better than AC7
but ace combat have better soundtracks so far and have better aircrafts and licences and more stuff DLC AIRCRAFTS anyway both games are good i have both games for xbox series s my favorite stages ANCHORHEAD DLC AND TEN MILLIONS ALICORN
Project wingman looks more realistic the only problem is the explosions there's too much orange other than that it looks better than ace combat in terms of graphics and the campaign great vid
One of the main advantages PW had over AC7 (at least for me) was the fact it was made for PC and Kb+M in mind from the start. The default controls are way smoother, and freecam mouse without having to press any buttons really helps in dogfight.
@HCS Karios - Have your eyes checked, mate. AC7 looks much better (no wonder, though. They've been at it much longer than the PW devs). Btw, I don't play any of these games.
Hmm Comparing two similar games. One created as a love project by a gifted number of people with there own money and time. The other created with the backing and funding of a established gaming company with people who design games for a living. Both games are great as far as game play goes. Graphically wise the one with the company likely will be slightly better. Still the fact that a indi game can be compared to a company produced triple A game is a testemant to the indi game developer. Which would i choose?? Both...
Yeah......you're slightly lying to yourself now. Project Wingman looks better. Not by a mile obviously. But the overall details and atmosphere is far more detailed and realistic. I used to think otherwise until I saw the comparison.
An aspect that is far superior in PW, to me, at least, is the sound design. The sonic booms of jets passing you at high speeds, how distant explosions rumble and arrive with a delay, all these little things. When I go back to AC now I notice their absence; yet, before I played PW, I didn't miss them. One of these things that you only notice once you've experienced them.
Well its no surprise that AC7 graphically looks better in almost every aspect, considering the difference in budget, but the lads who worked on PW really did a good job regardless.
Project wingman has sharper highlights and more contrast, and imo a little bit better color work (excluding the orange) AC7 is a bit muted but is smoother and easier on the eyes. The matte-ness of the reflections look as good as the realism of PW. It depends on the viewer and how much they want any such aspect of the graphics.
I like how the flying feels in PW it's a lot smoother compared to AC7.. AC7 feels like it's lock to lock and it's like railings on air, while PW actually feels like the planes are flying... even the "High-G" turns in PW feels more satisfying... I hope the next AC will feel like PW
PW is surprisingly more "realistic" in the sense that you can really feel the limits to how an aircraft can handle (compare the "starter" planes in PW and AC7, for example)
@@DewaKrishna_ Yes, and it does really feel like you are "flying/floating" when you are turning and doing High-G turns in PW... AC7 flying just feels rigid and unnatural.. like I said before it feels like rails on air and idek how that makes sense lol. Prev title that I've played like AC4 and AC5 feels more like PW so Idk what happened to AC7
@@1998lemuel PA tried to make AC7 feel arcadey as possible, which I like the most. They tried to keep that arcade aesthetic instead of making physics realistic which makes people rage.
@@mineko2219 PW is also arcadey it but feels more satisfying and smooth to fly. Like the video said, you can actually "air drift" in PW, while AC7 "High-G" turns feels like its a roller coaster. I can't really put it into words, but I've always described it as having invisible rails on air. Also, PW feels to me like the old AC4 and AC5 but with better graphics are other stuff... AC7 is just too twitchy to fly smoothly, for me anyways.
My laptop runs everything super well on high and ultra and I got the GTX 1060 in my laptop to this day my laptop still surprises me on how well it runs games even now
You can see the lightning at all times UNDER the storm clouds on PW. You only get lightning on ONE MISSION and you can never fly above the weather. Project Wingman won that round. By a mile. The mission start looks good too, without the HUD on external view.
I though Project Wingman will have Turbulence, Icing Stall while in the clouds too long and of course, Lightning Strike. Imagine, flying through Hurricane, Tornado or even Clouds in Winter Temperature? Whether or not Project Wingman also included tuning/customizing plane with parts like AC7.
There are two thunders in Ace Combat 7 In the mission vs Mihaly the first time and Homeward chasing those rail planes carrying Helios missiles after saving Princess Cosette and Scrap Queen
Ace Combat 7 Pros: has High G turn, plane upgrades like auto repairs, jammers and auto lock guns, has easy aiming system for bomber compared to project wingman, clouds can be a weapon for you or againts you, your Pilot in cockpit can actually moves his legs when using rudders, lots of great unique missions such as flying through valleys, hiding under the clouds to strike, avoiding thunders, air currents pushing the plane around, detecting unknown hostiles, allies turning into enemy and vice versa, worlds has more details, swapping targets is easy, lots of cool planes and great tons of customizations, several waifus such as Princess, tomboy mechanic and and asian pilot Cons: the Expert control for Roll, Yaw and Pitch felt too sharp like unable to turn smoothly on target when aiming guns which makes the auto lock guns being the thing to rely on, doing aerial maneuver is really hard too being forced to go slow enough to do the maneuvers, less armaments and very little Chaffs & Flares. Understandably having High G turn would make people use less C&F, missile range and homing capability sucks even with upgrades, mute WSO guy, teammates are not so helpful most of the times except Lighthouse where they distracted and slowly killing the drones and DLC mission where Count and Húxiān got buffed where they actually wrecked regular enemies Project Wingman Pros: lots of armaments, Gun aiming prediction, can be used to snipe enemy far away without the predictions and requires gravitational distance too, has infinite C&F but must be used tactically for the enemies are relentless if used too early and couldn't turn enough to dodge em, AOA makes the player feels badass that can be used at any speed and also avoid enemy missiles like High G turn and hunt down enemies relentlessly like Mihaly compared to Ace Combat maneuvers which the players must slow down "Warning playing in Cockpit mode makes it nauseaus when making 180° turns using AOA too much", Roll, Yaw and Pitch just felt smoother compared to Ace Combat which makes aiming the plane much more accurate, missiles has more range and homing capabilities than Ace Combat, teammates are so useful especially you can see their kill counts after the game and the share scores instead of kill stealing in Ace Combat 7 the aerial physics felt weighty and floaty which is very noticeable during long AOA spins while Ace Combat aerial Physics felt like on rail as the commenters said from the other comments, no time limits and lots of strategizing attack plans while on the move, VTOL planes and especially WSO waifu watching our backs Cons: Target swapping is ridiculous sometimes, the bomber UI is bad when used far away which is hard to know if the bomb is on target or not, Audio sounds gets grainy sometimes, graphic details such as clouds and grounds gets muddy despite maxed out settings and 60fps with no issues, menu UI is bad for controller, altitude warning is nearly unnoticeable, too much orange, not enough two seater planes for Prez They both got something in common Banger soundtrack from Keiki Kobayashi (Ace Combat) and Jose Pavli (Project Wingman)
Ace7 is a Weak "Return to Formula" which really means just not having DFM which Infinity did already but being too "Online EA money desperate" Ace combat 6 was the Latest in BreakThrough Development and a Genuine Entry to the Series with its "Next Generation" High Definition/Photo Realistic Gameplay !! But it was about the SMOOTH MECHANICS of the gameplay too Which Project Wingman Faithfully Continues !!!
I've been playing ace combat as long as I can remember, and project wingman has been a blast, graphics are gorgeous, the sound track is really good, not ace combat levels (though, it takes alot to beat that ost for me) The flying physics in pw just feel so much better, you have much more freedom, and the camera (mouse and keyboard) feels great. My take on the game, is, take ace combat, and give it war thunder flying physics, but more acrade, and no g limits. Overall, project wingman will probably be the true rival to ace combat. And that's coming from someone who has been playing longer than I can even remember. Project wingman devs, have made one hell of a game.
I personally got far more immersed in, and generally enjoyed PW far more. It was a blast playing as Monarch, and I still go back to troll in free missions with the PW MK1.
Both games use Unreal Engine 4 with minor difference right? I wonder if Unreal Engine 5 if it's on PS5 and Xbox Series X? Maybe Nintendo Switch Pro in the Future?
project wingman is better iin everything, but ace combat 7 is better in aircrafts and more weapons , i like both games and the soundtrack is wonderfull both games . su47 rafale and thyphon and f35 and other aircrafts on ace combat 7 but not on project wingman
I would say Ace Combat definetly has a bit more of a refined look. Especially the poly count of the planes and the lighting such as cast shadows. However its damn impressive what the Project Wingman dev's have managed to do on such a small team and budget.
Overall Graphics: AC7 Simply more crispy in AC7. Ngl, PW did the excellent job, yet there is some room to polish up further. Cockpit design: PW Probably AC7 models should be more accurate, but PW ones for some reasons look more alive. Explosion design: AC7 *Shoutout to Assault Horizon.* You could be a poor-quality game but your "steel-carnage" design lives on. Hanger: AC7 Both games are mod-friendly and accept tons of custom skins. I wanted PW to have any method to preview the jet freely. Mission Start design: PW CoDMW-ish sub works perfectly, and looks so badass. Kudos to the designer, or RB himself I guess. Soundtracks: BOTH BOTH IS FREAKING GOOD. Keiki is genius. Jose is also genius. I WUB BOTH.
Honestly,project wingman is better than AC in my opinion,it has a better storyline,and there are many twists that keep the game interesting,instead of that "oh yes we will win" story in Ace combat. I will definitely buy it if i get the chance
Ac7 more better because missions. PW many missions are simple. Just destroy targets and RTB. Ac7 have better missions. Sneaking throught canyon mission, search fuel trucks in sandstorm, sneaking through radar areas to reach objective mission, boss fight in thunder storm middle of canyon. These mission makes ac7 better
I also prefer ace combat 7 soundtrack overall, ac7 has more incredible music overall than pw, but pw has kings and showdown which make up for a lot of it
I think PW looks better in some aspects such as the aircraft models and lighting, but there are a lot of distracting flaws such as the poor texture work on the ground, low quality fire and flame animations, and low quality LODs (did they not look at the takeoff sequence?). I also don't understand what happened with the clouds as they were great in the alpha builds, but now they have this weird brush stroke look to them and a lot of artifacting. Ace Combat looks like they compromised on some of the visuals to create more balance, so even though it's not as graphically impressive in all aspects, it looks more polished as a result. Musically... PW made a good effort with their budget, but Ace Combat will always be the best in that regard.
And This demo th-cam.com/video/edPnslLJTWI/w-d-xo.html (Dev Demo I guess) has the Afterburners Looking Superb ! But I guess they had to downgrade the visuals to compensate 🤷♂️
I have both on Xbox series x and I love both but if i had to pic a winner it would be Project wingman because it feels more like a war game and not a cheesy Japanese American made top gun movie
ProjectAces should realy hired the team behind Project Wingman and give them full control for the development of AC8. who else make the game series great again? obviously the die hard fans who can make the game.
PW has slight weird missiles behavior. Are missiles should follow the target? Or the jet missiles nowadays are smarter so it goes the direction where it predict the jet goes? Here 2:58
Project Wingman has Steam VR Support, 21:9 and 32:9 Aspect Ratio Support. Project Wingman has better Graphics and more Realistic Gameplay with A LOT more content/stuff for you to do. AC7 is a horrible Console port for 16:9 only, and not even True 4K Supported. AC7 is outdated while Project Wingman just got started.
@@alahsiaboi8909 If you play 16:9 you don't see the whole game in your screen, only with 21:9 you have the complete image. So what's the point ? I like to play my games with a perfect image instead of cut.
It is tragic with Project Wingman, it had so much potential but when I played the controls were too damn clunky. And before you say, yes, I did change the controls before started, doing the most I could to have it match Ace Combat 7. Here is the best I can put it. The relationship between Ace Combat 7 to Project Wingman is similar to that of the Starburst and the Now or Later. Ace Combat 7 being the Starburst and Project Wingman being the Now or Later. It ain’t terrible but it ain’t great either.
Never thought I'd say this but damn!! Project Wingman does in fact looks better than AC7 🥴. How is that position? lol And AAA Ace Combat 7 game is charging us FULL PRICE!? lol Fuck out of here.
i let say i d prefered both flight games i love it both games actually i have those games for xbox series s project wingman and ace combat 7 whith all dlc
For me, I think Project Wingman did it better. Campaigns are more dynamic with the settings, enemy difficulty, and weapon loadout. The graphics are much more real compare to AC7.
For realism for the most part project wingman takes the cake but for lore and story it goes to ace combat as well as for its music. Project wingman has a cool extras like files on the story and extra bits of context for the missions but ace combat has great dlc like top gun and intresting multiplayer. For aircraft’s to pilot I’d also say ace combat takes the cake plus it has way more customization options if you had to choose between the two I’d say go with ace combat but project wingman is still a great game
Ill give PW gameplay and replayability. AC7 Graphics and Music and OG aircraft. PW for not being made by a multimillion dollar company its not bad at all. Its kinda like a upgraded AC6 but with its own flare.
Project Wingman would've been better looking if there wasn't so much fucking orange... They both look like a movie, but AC7 looks like a war movie, while PW looks like something out of 80s Sci-Fi.
Idk which one is more realistic, but PW is definitely more cinematic. The effects on PW are a bit too much from the gameplay standpoint: the explosion, smoke trail, wind turbulence around the wings, etc.
Well, there is ONE cutscene... It's just a still image but a cutscene. Tbf, if they had to model people it would mean reallocating budget from elsewhere.
Cutscenes don’t make the game, it only adds that little bit of pizzaz. It’s a testament that PW has no actual cutscenes and it’s still a a game where people are asking “is it better or on par with ace combat.”
By your comment its like saying Dark Souls sucks because its doesn't has many cutscene Cutscene is indeed are needed to the game especially on storytelling but not a big factor to make a game better, there are many games out there that doesn't even has a cutscene but has better storytelling then big budget games with cinematic eye candy cutscenes
A few key differences: 1. PW doesn't have AC's interactive (working) cockpit. 2. AC doesn't have contrail, which PW does for any non-player aircraft. 3. PW's cloud shadow effect is not as good as AC's. 4. AC's condensation cloud is more realistic, while PW's condensation cloud is more "beefed up". Also all aircraft in PW uses the same condensation pattern, so some planes will have condensation at a place where there's no control surface at all. Finally, AC don't have shadow for condensation, while PW does (if you look at a condensation from the wrong side of sun, it will be grey). 5. AC has superior post-destruction physics, while PW is more like just trailing fire and slide across the sky at random angle. 6. PW's soundtracks are similar in terms of genre with AC, though I'd say PW is better than AC7. AC really dropped the ball this time, they are acceptable, but not as good as 4/5/0/6.
What? AC7 by far has one of the strongest OSTs in the franchise. The PS2 trilogies had some outstanding songs in their OSTs, like Megalith Agnus Dei, Zero, etc., but AC7's tracks were just laced with banger after banger.
Must say ace combat 7 looks much more impressive because of attention to detail specially if playing im 3rd person. In first person (cockpit) view project wingman does a little better and thats because it was developed with VR experience in mind.... Overall though AC7 is visually better and is better optimized (for proof just look at contrails, engine heat effect and clouds in project wingman...)
I love both games but...Project Wingman is the superior game. The only thing Ace Combat has on Project Wingman is the cockpit view in AC is far cleaner looking. I play Project Wingman on the Xbox Series X and everytime I do my instrument panel *in cockpit starts out fine until I start moving. From that point forward until I start a new mission it breaks up all over the place and flickers like crazy. It's really distracting at times. For reference- The reason Project Wingman looks better than Ace Combat is it runs in native 4K@60FPS. The best Ace Combat will do on consoles is 1080p@60FPS.
Project Wingman overall looks better. A huge point for me is that in PW destroyed planes actually fall down to the ground. In AC7 they just poof into nothingness, which is extremely cheap and completely ruins the joy of shooting planes down.
Maybe its true but, in terms of game efficency its better in AC7 on Console at least, PW its "literally unplayble" at times because of how many things loaded on screen. At least on console AC7 its a more refined experience.
@@MatPost dosen't change the fact that it's not optimized on Console... also we are 5 months in the future respect that statement things change a lot...
@@kazearqaz1734 Texture sizes are low-priority for a flight game. Your plane is a considerable distance away from the camera, let alone other objects in the sky. You could talk about terrain textures and quality, but both games are beyond bad in that regard, as are most other flight games.
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This is what happens if both games developed in the same genre with the same game engine (Unreal Engine 4), they both similarly beautiful. And tbh for me, Project Wingman is kinda badass since it's an indie game (with small budget & small team) and yet can maintain the great visual quality like the AAA game of ace combat 7 (big budget & big team).
not just graphically, overall it seems to have good soundtrack too, and the cheesy ac voice acting on radio, they seemed to really have made a complete ac package with indie resources
that's what you can expect from someone who actually a really ace combat fans and consistently active at ace combat subreddit and also has a team with a same dedication like you, at the core they not only making a game just for money but also making a game because of passion of what they like and most importantly not limited by anything that forced you to do anything
Its sort of easy getting the lighting and post process to the level of ace combat, the real impression here is the amount of effort in map designing, models, dialogue which is on par or maybe even better than AC7
same engine isnt the matter, what matters is wearher its the same mechanics
but ace combat have better soundtracks so far and have better aircrafts and licences and more stuff DLC AIRCRAFTS anyway both games are good i have both games for xbox series s my favorite stages ANCHORHEAD DLC AND TEN MILLIONS ALICORN
I am really digging the targeting pod on the F-16 in PW
its beautiful, plus with the multi sp weapon its better
Project wingman looks more realistic the only problem is the explosions there's too much orange other than that it looks better than ace combat in terms of graphics and the campaign great vid
thanks man! and i like ace combat, but PW has better structure
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One of the main advantages PW had over AC7 (at least for me) was the fact it was made for PC and Kb+M in mind from the start. The default controls are way smoother, and freecam mouse without having to press any buttons really helps in dogfight.
Me personally, it's hard to say which one looks better because both look beautiful
i personally like PW more, but AC7 is way smoother + some textures are more detailed
@@InfinityUSEA I Agree
@HCS Karios - Have your eyes checked, mate. AC7 looks much better (no wonder, though. They've been at it much longer than the PW devs). Btw, I don't play any of these games.
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Get y'all eyes checked And sense of Feeling th-cam.com/video/pc-fj5L6eA0/w-d-xo.html
@@mrandrossguy9871 AC6 definitely shows its age, Andross, I don't know what you're talking about.
Hmm Comparing two similar games.
One created as a love project by a gifted number of people with there own money and time.
The other created with the backing and funding of a established gaming company with people who design games for a living.
Both games are great as far as game play goes. Graphically wise the one with the company likely will be slightly better.
Still the fact that a indi game can be compared to a company produced triple A game is a testemant to the indi game developer.
Which would i choose??
Both...
YES.
Yeah......you're slightly lying to yourself now.
Project Wingman looks better. Not by a mile obviously. But the overall details and atmosphere is far more detailed and realistic. I used to think otherwise until I saw the comparison.
@@metalnat27 I think it comes down to style preferences. AC is smoother and more defined while PW is a bit grittier and more realistic.
@@alexanderthegreat6682 I don't disagree lol.
Because another thing I need to point out, I'm still a huge fan of Ace Combat series!
I personally love how Project Wingman is setup as a whole. The emphasis around using your main gun more often is something I do enjoy.
An aspect that is far superior in PW, to me, at least, is the sound design. The sonic booms of jets passing you at high speeds, how distant explosions rumble and arrive with a delay, all these little things. When I go back to AC now I notice their absence; yet, before I played PW, I didn't miss them. One of these things that you only notice once you've experienced them.
Well its no surprise that AC7 graphically looks better in almost every aspect, considering the difference in budget, but the lads who worked on PW really did a good job regardless.
And Ace6 looks better than 07
@@mrandrossguy9871 To a blind person perhaps
@@gracecalis5421 Lol
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Bet y'all feel very proud
@@mrandrossguy9871 there was a video saying that they were pushing the limits in That game
Project wingman has sharper highlights and more contrast, and imo a little bit better color work (excluding the orange)
AC7 is a bit muted but is smoother and easier on the eyes. The matte-ness of the reflections look as good as the realism of PW. It depends on the viewer and how much they want any such aspect of the graphics.
AC7 a bit muted? The plane and environment textures in PW is just not as good as AC7. It looks like I am looking at plastic planes.
I like how the flying feels in PW it's a lot smoother compared to AC7.. AC7 feels like it's lock to lock and it's like railings on air, while PW actually feels like the planes are flying... even the "High-G" turns in PW feels more satisfying... I hope the next AC will feel like PW
PW is surprisingly more "realistic" in the sense that you can really feel the limits to how an aircraft can handle (compare the "starter" planes in PW and AC7, for example)
@@DewaKrishna_ Yes, and it does really feel like you are "flying/floating" when you are turning and doing High-G turns in PW... AC7 flying just feels rigid and unnatural.. like I said before it feels like rails on air and idek how that makes sense lol. Prev title that I've played like AC4 and AC5 feels more like PW so Idk what happened to AC7
@@1998lemuel PA tried to make AC7 feel arcadey as possible, which I like the most. They tried to keep that arcade aesthetic instead of making physics realistic which makes people rage.
@@mineko2219 PW is also arcadey it but feels more satisfying and smooth to fly. Like the video said, you can actually "air drift" in PW, while AC7 "High-G" turns feels like its a roller coaster. I can't really put it into words, but I've always described it as having invisible rails on air. Also, PW feels to me like the old AC4 and AC5 but with better graphics are other stuff... AC7 is just too twitchy to fly smoothly, for me anyways.
@@1998lemuel Nah, I don’t think it’s near AC4 or 5. Maybe AC6 tbh.
AC7 is so well optomized on any gaming desktop/laptop specs while the PW is required at least GTX1070 or GTX1080.
lol suprisingly it doesnt take much to run PW
@@InfinityUSEA What spec are you running? Mine still using i7 8th gen then GTX 1080
I only have a crappy laptop with 4gb RAM, nvidia mx150 and intel i5 7th gen
PW still runs better than AC7
Lol! I'm running on Gtx 1050ti and it working without any problem just like ace combat
My laptop runs everything super well on high and ultra and I got the GTX 1060 in my laptop to this day my laptop still surprises me on how well it runs games even now
You can see the lightning at all times UNDER the storm clouds on PW. You only get lightning on ONE MISSION and you can never fly above the weather.
Project Wingman won that round. By a mile.
The mission start looks good too, without the HUD on external view.
PW has great weather characteristics, no turbulance and u cant get struck
I though Project Wingman will have Turbulence, Icing Stall while in the clouds too long and of course, Lightning Strike.
Imagine, flying through Hurricane, Tornado or even Clouds in Winter Temperature? Whether or not Project Wingman also included tuning/customizing plane with parts like AC7.
In Ace you can see lightning under the clouds. You can also fly above the weather. I feel like Ace wins in that aspect
There are two thunders in Ace Combat 7
In the mission vs Mihaly the first time and Homeward chasing those rail planes carrying Helios missiles after saving Princess Cosette and Scrap Queen
It's really insane how much above it's weight class PW is able to punch
i love the sound track of AC, especially the AC Zero and 5
Honestly the best part of PW's soundtrack is the last 1 minute and 20 seconds of Kings. That is the absolute peak.
Ace Combat is a classic, and Project Wingman is another great game!
I like the experience and visuals on both games.
Nice video!
Put the ace combat explosions and cinematic kills in person and u got yourself an incredible game
I like how the winshield has scratches, most games with jets look like they don't have any windshields.
Ace Combat 7
Pros: has High G turn, plane upgrades like auto repairs, jammers and auto lock guns, has easy aiming system for bomber compared to project wingman, clouds can be a weapon for you or againts you, your Pilot in cockpit can actually moves his legs when using rudders, lots of great unique missions such as flying through valleys, hiding under the clouds to strike, avoiding thunders, air currents pushing the plane around, detecting unknown hostiles, allies turning into enemy and vice versa, worlds has more details, swapping targets is easy, lots of cool planes and great tons of customizations, several waifus such as Princess, tomboy mechanic and and asian pilot
Cons: the Expert control for Roll, Yaw and Pitch felt too sharp like unable to turn smoothly on target when aiming guns which makes the auto lock guns being the thing to rely on, doing aerial maneuver is really hard too being forced to go slow enough to do the maneuvers, less armaments and very little Chaffs & Flares. Understandably having High G turn would make people use less C&F, missile range and homing capability sucks even with upgrades, mute WSO guy, teammates are not so helpful most of the times except Lighthouse where they distracted and slowly killing the drones and DLC mission where Count and Húxiān got buffed where they actually wrecked regular enemies
Project Wingman
Pros: lots of armaments, Gun aiming prediction, can be used to snipe enemy far away without the predictions and requires gravitational distance too, has infinite C&F but must be used tactically for the enemies are relentless if used too early and couldn't turn enough to dodge em, AOA makes the player feels badass that can be used at any speed and also avoid enemy missiles like High G turn and hunt down enemies relentlessly like Mihaly compared to Ace Combat maneuvers which the players must slow down "Warning playing in Cockpit mode makes it nauseaus when making 180° turns using AOA too much", Roll, Yaw and Pitch just felt smoother compared to Ace Combat which makes aiming the plane much more accurate, missiles has more range and homing capabilities than Ace Combat, teammates are so useful especially you can see their kill counts after the game and the share scores instead of kill stealing in Ace Combat 7 the aerial physics felt weighty and floaty which is very noticeable during long AOA spins while Ace Combat aerial Physics felt like on rail as the commenters said from the other comments, no time limits and lots of strategizing attack plans while on the move, VTOL planes and especially WSO waifu watching our backs
Cons: Target swapping is ridiculous sometimes, the bomber UI is bad when used far away which is hard to know if the bomb is on target or not, Audio sounds gets grainy sometimes, graphic details such as clouds and grounds gets muddy despite maxed out settings and 60fps with no issues, menu UI is bad for controller, altitude warning is nearly unnoticeable, too much orange, not enough two seater planes for Prez
They both got something in common
Banger soundtrack from Keiki Kobayashi (Ace Combat) and Jose Pavli (Project Wingman)
Ace7 is a Weak "Return to Formula" which really means just not having DFM which Infinity did already but being too "Online EA money desperate"
Ace combat 6 was the Latest in BreakThrough Development and a Genuine Entry to the Series with its "Next Generation" High Definition/Photo Realistic Gameplay !!
But it was about the SMOOTH MECHANICS of the gameplay too Which Project Wingman Faithfully Continues !!!
@@mrandrossguy9871 Photo-realistic?
I've been playing ace combat as long as I can remember, and project wingman has been a blast, graphics are gorgeous, the sound track is really good, not ace combat levels (though, it takes alot to beat that ost for me)
The flying physics in pw just feel so much better, you have much more freedom, and the camera (mouse and keyboard) feels great.
My take on the game, is, take ace combat, and give it war thunder flying physics, but more acrade, and no g limits.
Overall, project wingman will probably be the true rival to ace combat.
And that's coming from someone who has been playing longer than I can even remember.
Project wingman devs, have made one hell of a game.
i just realize F-16 nose radar cone in PW is longer than usual.
but everything else is the same
knowing which one is which woulda been handy !!
Love them both
PW might look better if your capture footage wasn't @ 3FPS.
sorry about that lol my pc was having issues as i recorded a couole clips, i was in a rush and didnt have time to go back and fix
No it doesn't. Plane textures on PW is just not on par with AC7.
give D2 some credits, they are an indie company
I personally got far more immersed in, and generally enjoyed PW far more. It was a blast playing as Monarch, and I still go back to troll in free missions with the PW MK1.
Wait how did u get pw to look that light. The entire time I played pw's color pallet looked a lot darker than ac7
was thinking the same thing
You can change the gamma in settings
Both games use Unreal Engine 4 with minor difference right? I wonder if Unreal Engine 5 if it's on PS5 and Xbox Series X? Maybe Nintendo Switch Pro in the Future?
both are unreal engine 4, and ill ask the dev, imma try and set up a live interview with him
Did you use the XBOX 1 version of the AC7? It's known for it's lower rendering resolution, you should've used the PC version. Otherwise, great video!
project wingman is better iin everything, but ace combat 7 is better in aircrafts and more weapons , i like both games and the soundtrack is wonderfull both games . su47 rafale and thyphon and f35 and other aircrafts on ace combat 7 but not on project wingman
The ending in Project Wingman is much better.
can't be good like Ace Combat Zero 😎
Also the ending cutscene in AC7 is much better
I would say Ace Combat definetly has a bit more of a refined look. Especially the poly count of the planes and the lighting such as cast shadows. However its damn impressive what the Project Wingman dev's have managed to do on such a small team and budget.
Pw visuals are nice when uo7 can see them every once and awhile through the blindingly over contrasted nuclear whiteout of an atmosphere
My problem with Project Wingman is lack weapon demonstration and close look special weapon and AI idle quote especially in conquer mode
I love both
Overall Graphics: AC7 Simply more crispy in AC7. Ngl, PW did the excellent job, yet there is some room to polish up further.
Cockpit design: PW Probably AC7 models should be more accurate, but PW ones for some reasons look more alive.
Explosion design: AC7 *Shoutout to Assault Horizon.* You could be a poor-quality game but your "steel-carnage" design lives on.
Hanger: AC7 Both games are mod-friendly and accept tons of custom skins. I wanted PW to have any method to preview the jet freely.
Mission Start design: PW CoDMW-ish sub works perfectly, and looks so badass. Kudos to the designer, or RB himself I guess.
Soundtracks: BOTH BOTH IS FREAKING GOOD. Keiki is genius. Jose is also genius. I WUB BOTH.
Explosion design: Yet the Players plane doesn't Fall apart like the npc, just retarded spinning
Honestly,project wingman is better than AC in my opinion,it has a better storyline,and there are many twists that keep the game interesting,instead of that "oh yes we will win" story in Ace combat. I will definitely buy it if i get the chance
Ac7 more better because missions. PW many missions are simple. Just destroy targets and RTB. Ac7 have better missions. Sneaking throught canyon mission, search fuel trucks in sandstorm, sneaking through radar areas to reach objective mission, boss fight in thunder storm middle of canyon. These mission makes ac7 better
Ac7 harder than PW ? We definitely haven't played the same game mate...
@@MadX8 harder ? I dont said harder. Ac7 have more exciting missions.
Does anyone know how to pull off the moves maneuver in project wontman
You need a plane with the AOA limiter, use the flair button to activate, hit the brake and do what you like
yea just figured it out got a mig 29 and its alot of fun just kinda hard to dodge missels@@InfinityUSEA
I think you should've done the cockpit view in VR
People are supposed to guess which is which?....
You want some good sound track?
Bandi Namco's
Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces
You know, both use the simul true sky ue4 plugin. Just if you were wondering why the clouds look so similar.
Aaaw! (almost) Just like Strike Commander(1993)
^Can't wait for Squadron 42...11 years+
I also prefer ace combat 7 soundtrack overall, ac7 has more incredible music overall than pw, but pw has kings and showdown which make up for a lot of it
While I enjoyed both games I find myself playing project wingman more often. Wish they had DLC for PW vr experience is awesome with project wingman.
are both games same res and same graphic options ?
I think PW looks better in some aspects such as the aircraft models and lighting, but there are a lot of distracting flaws such as the poor texture work on the ground, low quality fire and flame animations, and low quality LODs (did they not look at the takeoff sequence?). I also don't understand what happened with the clouds as they were great in the alpha builds, but now they have this weird brush stroke look to them and a lot of artifacting. Ace Combat looks like they compromised on some of the visuals to create more balance, so even though it's not as graphically impressive in all aspects, it looks more polished as a result.
Musically... PW made a good effort with their budget, but Ace Combat will always be the best in that regard.
Agree
And This demo th-cam.com/video/edPnslLJTWI/w-d-xo.html (Dev Demo I guess) has the Afterburners Looking Superb !
But I guess they had to downgrade the visuals to compensate 🤷♂️
i personally like the looks of PW more, and soundtrack i gotta call it even, cuz if u hear Presidia, its the daredevil of PW
u could include the gun ammo trace.
So you forgot to identify each game in screen.
Look at the kill in PW just a orange ball
And in Ace Combat you can see the enemy going down burning an breaking apart 2:38
what is better gameplay PW or Ace combat 7 ?
I have both on Xbox series x and I love both but if i had to pic a winner it would be Project wingman because it feels more like a war game and not a cheesy Japanese American made top gun movie
Wingman has too much contrast in some situations, ambient was almost nonexistent in lowlight condition
ProjectAces should realy hired the team behind Project Wingman and give them full control for the development of AC8.
who else make the game series great again? obviously the die hard fans who can make the game.
I see a Crimson 1
And I want it painted ORANGE.
PW has slight weird missiles behavior. Are missiles should follow the target? Or the jet missiles nowadays are smarter so it goes the direction where it predict the jet goes? Here 2:58
Project Wingman has Steam VR Support, 21:9 and 32:9 Aspect Ratio Support. Project Wingman has better Graphics and more Realistic Gameplay with A LOT more content/stuff for you to do. AC7 is a horrible Console port for 16:9 only, and not even True 4K Supported. AC7 is outdated while Project Wingman just got started.
What's the point' with wide aspect anyway your eyes isnt 120fov lol
@@alahsiaboi8909 You see 40% more in-game screen, maybe ? Hellooo ...
@@alahsiaboi8909 If you play 16:9 you don't see the whole game in your screen, only with 21:9 you have the complete image. So what's the point ? I like to play my games with a perfect image instead of cut.
@@alahsiaboi8909 Especially in that new game, Riders Republic. It's a MUST on Ultra Wide. As if it's made for it to be honest.
It is tragic with Project Wingman, it had so much potential but when I played the controls were too damn clunky. And before you say, yes, I did change the controls before started, doing the most I could to have it match Ace Combat 7.
Here is the best I can put it. The relationship between Ace Combat 7 to Project Wingman is similar to that of the Starburst and the Now or Later. Ace Combat 7 being the Starburst and Project Wingman being the Now or Later. It ain’t terrible but it ain’t great either.
Honestly I have a hard time with 7 because it looks super cartoony. It has its beauty and looks great, but there’s something too .. soft about it
Never thought I'd say this but damn!! Project Wingman does in fact looks better than AC7 🥴. How is that position? lol
And AAA Ace Combat 7 game is charging us FULL PRICE!? lol Fuck out of here.
i let say i d prefered both flight games i love it both games actually i have those games for xbox series s project wingman and ace combat 7 whith all dlc
For me, I think Project Wingman did it better. Campaigns are more dynamic with the settings, enemy difficulty, and weapon loadout. The graphics are much more real compare to AC7.
pretty insane that project wingman was made by only 3 guys and it stands up to a triple A developer. impressive game.
Project wingman reminds me of an arcade game
Yes, but i can't understeand which is Ace Combat 7 and which project wingman, there is not wrote
For realism for the most part project wingman takes the cake but for lore and story it goes to ace combat as well as for its music. Project wingman has a cool extras like files on the story and extra bits of context for the missions but ace combat has great dlc like top gun and intresting multiplayer. For aircraft’s to pilot I’d also say ace combat takes the cake plus it has way more customization options if you had to choose between the two I’d say go with ace combat but project wingman is still a great game
Ill give PW gameplay and replayability. AC7 Graphics and Music and OG aircraft. PW for not being made by a multimillion dollar company its not bad at all. Its kinda like a upgraded AC6 but with its own flare.
Project Wingman would've been better looking if there wasn't so much fucking orange... They both look like a movie, but AC7 looks like a war movie, while PW looks like something out of 80s Sci-Fi.
Ace Combat 7 looks better, I prefer the simplicity while still looking good.
Soundtrack Ace Combat winner
só não entendi qual é qual
I’ve played both and honestly…. Project wingman is more fun and way more immersive! Better AI too and missions are more like ac6! Large scale battles
Idk which one is more realistic, but PW is definitely more cinematic. The effects on PW are a bit too much from the gameplay standpoint: the explosion, smoke trail, wind turbulence around the wings, etc.
Ac7 have cutscene and Project Wingman doesnt have cutscene
Well, there is ONE cutscene... It's just a still image but a cutscene. Tbf, if they had to model people it would mean reallocating budget from elsewhere.
Cutscenes don’t make the game, it only adds that little bit of pizzaz. It’s a testament that PW has no actual cutscenes and it’s still a a game where people are asking “is it better or on par with ace combat.”
By your comment its like saying Dark Souls sucks because its doesn't has many cutscene
Cutscene is indeed are needed to the game especially on storytelling but not a big factor to make a game better, there are many games out there that doesn't even has a cutscene but has better storytelling then big budget games with cinematic eye candy cutscenes
AC has better weapons effects and explosions, but PW overall looks much better and more realistic.
which one is ace combat
???
Now do a Visual comparison of Ace6 with them !
ill do it, ive been getting lots of requests for it
A few key differences:
1. PW doesn't have AC's interactive (working) cockpit.
2. AC doesn't have contrail, which PW does for any non-player aircraft.
3. PW's cloud shadow effect is not as good as AC's.
4. AC's condensation cloud is more realistic, while PW's condensation cloud is more "beefed up". Also all aircraft in PW uses the same condensation pattern, so some planes will have condensation at a place where there's no control surface at all. Finally, AC don't have shadow for condensation, while PW does (if you look at a condensation from the wrong side of sun, it will be grey).
5. AC has superior post-destruction physics, while PW is more like just trailing fire and slide across the sky at random angle.
6. PW's soundtracks are similar in terms of genre with AC, though I'd say PW is better than AC7. AC really dropped the ball this time, they are acceptable, but not as good as 4/5/0/6.
Damn ! He was able to give NPC exhaust contrails but not the Player 😣 !
Aero Elite the player had Contrails And that was 2002 Ps2 !!!
What? AC7 by far has one of the strongest OSTs in the franchise. The PS2 trilogies had some outstanding songs in their OSTs, like Megalith Agnus Dei, Zero, etc., but AC7's tracks were just laced with banger after banger.
>AC7's music isn't good
The fat conductor laughed, *"You are wrong"*
@@gracecalis5421 not really
@@mrandrossguy9871 _I can't hear you over the sound of Magic Spear_
Damn, i don't give a damn i buy both😍XD
Sound on Project Wingman is LEGENDARY. AC7 can’t even come close. Makes it much easier to decide which game or buy
Weak bait
ACE COMBAT ❤️
Must say ace combat 7 looks much more impressive because of attention to detail specially if playing im 3rd person. In first person (cockpit) view project wingman does a little better and thats because it was developed with VR experience in mind.... Overall though AC7 is visually better and is better optimized (for proof just look at contrails, engine heat effect and clouds in project wingman...)
Yeah ace 7 is just a pretty Infinity, not very impressive except for the Vapor of the wings and Water over cockpit
I love both games but...Project Wingman is the superior game. The only thing Ace Combat has on Project Wingman is the cockpit view in AC is far cleaner looking. I play Project Wingman on the Xbox Series X and everytime I do my instrument panel *in cockpit starts out fine until I start moving. From that point forward until I start a new mission it breaks up all over the place and flickers like crazy. It's really distracting at times.
For reference- The reason Project Wingman looks better than Ace Combat is it runs in native 4K@60FPS. The best Ace Combat will do on consoles is 1080p@60FPS.
this is really stupid but which one is which?
The pw cockpit looks better is had scrapes and better music but ac7 has better kabooms
Make PW vs AC7 plane crash into the ground
And NPC planes
There’s... no difference
@@mineko2219 There is Difference, Borders have no difference
which one is which?
3:49 ace combat
2:57 project wingman
ace combat on steroids
unfortunately PW doesn't have real plane name
Might have been helpful to label which was which 🤦♂
Well, Ace Combat 7 have more better aircraft like Rafale, Wingman is VR so.. it pass ? Mayb, im not sure i wanna my Rafale on VR
I preffer Ace Combat 7, looks better graphics, the soundtrack is more inmersive in the ambient
Ace combat >
PW is better overall for me, this comes from an AC fan since AC2.. can't go back to the usual when I experienced full PW in VR on PC
AC unplayable from cockpit view.
where waifu wso :c
Project Wingman overall looks better. A huge point for me is that in PW destroyed planes actually fall down to the ground. In AC7 they just poof into nothingness, which is extremely cheap and completely ruins the joy of shooting planes down.
Maybe its true but, in terms of game efficency its better in AC7 on Console at least, PW its "literally unplayble" at times because of how many things loaded on screen. At least on console AC7 its a more refined experience.
@@robertolesiliatotacchini5023 that means that you need to get a good PC
@@MatPost dosen't change the fact that it's not optimized on Console... also we are 5 months in the future respect that statement things change a lot...
There's not way PW looks better. Just look at the plane textures.
@@kazearqaz1734 Texture sizes are low-priority for a flight game. Your plane is a considerable distance away from the camera, let alone other objects in the sky.
You could talk about terrain textures and quality, but both games are beyond bad in that regard, as are most other flight games.