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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Our 250th video! Showcasing the entirety of the War of the Wizards between Thyatis and Glantri vs. Alphatia, while the War of the Master rages on the other side of the Known World between Hule and Darokin and all their allies. New nations are forged, old nations are saved and history is rewritten. Enjoy!
Thank you for your labors. Long live Mystara.
Wonderful as usual. Put it on a replay loop and didn't regret it.
Might I suggest the 'Oh-5' Timeline as an alternative.
I personally really dig the "War on all sides" as a module title of sorts. Let your players interact with the war, though certain events are bound to happen. The ascent of Bjornson in New Aengmar, for example, while maybe the PCs are also responsible for the Ethengar reinforcements.
There is so much info to work with it's scary.
To sum up the amber dragon; You fuked wit me wee little friends and made me sober up. Now I'm pissed.
A hungover dragon avenging his favorite hobbit bar is kinda beautiful, aye.
What an amazing piece of work.
Congratulations and heartfelt thanks on your five years of hard work and 250th Mystara video.
Seriously, thank you for all the effort you put into this video! I deeply enjoyed your reworking of wrath of the immortals and hearing the whole timeline laid out. It really sparked the creative energy in me and I could almost feel the adventures forming in my mind at the end. Now I’m going to be torn between starting my players in the original Mystara setting or this version of Mystara!
Also, you’ve definitely given me some serious ideas for my own setting and world. Especially when it comes to realistic politics and warfare in fantasy. So thank you again for that and all the work you put into it.
I just wanted to comment to say thank you for all these videos. Ages ago I had come across the list of things you weren't allowed to do, and I had it bookmarked on every computer both personal and work ever since. I would periodically revisit them and I've annoyed my friends for decades by quoting random items from it.
Then I found this TH-cam channel years ago, and started watching it and it wasn't until you said something about it on one of your videos I realized it was the same person. I also really didn't know anything about mystara. All I knew about it was that it apparently was the Hollow world, and that it was a setting from original Dungeons & Dragons. I also thought I knew a little bit of trivia in that it wasn't originally envisioned as a setting but eventually they started knitting all the modules together.
Since then, my knowledge has grown tremendously. There are aspects to the setting I love and some that I'm not as fond of but I never knew all of this depth in it. I've since been able to acquire a Hollow World box set, I also have red steel, and a few other box sets that I had collected over the decades that I didn't realize were all part of the setting.
so a couple weeks ago i started binging the welcome to mystara playlist while working on my own dnd setting's lore for background noise and inspiration, and i just finished the backlogged playlist right when this came out, so guess i had some solid timing there! thanks for the all the videos Mr Welch, and I swear im only stealing the best bits.
Still love this timeline even if there are 2 things I don't particularly care for:
1: The Hollow World is still well and truly screwed. Guess we can't save everything.
2: I like the way Tanadaleyo took control in the New Aengmor video better. That one made it appear like she was doing everything for the benefit of her people and to finally end Telemon's petty attempts at revenge. The timeline videos makes it seem like it was just a bid for her own personal power.
As far as the princess goes, it's a bit of both. Her father was never going to accept anything that doesn't end with Alfheim ruined. The princess also didn't want to wait several hundred years to take the throne from him. She saw an opportunity to help her people, sabotage her father and usurp his power. She cares for her people but she also won't pause to remove anybody between her and what she wants.
Those are not really contradictory motivations...
@The Ginger God I have to disagree with you about the Hollow World being screwed. I don't want to go into specifics, but if you go to Mr. Welch's video titled "The looming failure of the Hollow World", and read some of the comments, you'll see what I'm talking about.
So, suppose Red Steel does still take place here. Unless we go back to the idea that the Week of Dread doesn't effect Blackmoor technology and Immortal Magics.
Question is, if the Nucleus of the Spheres pulls from areas effected by the Sphere of Entropy, would that mean any new Immortals from it would now be Entropic Immortals, or still Energy ones?
Personally would lean towards Entropy, with Clerics (and religion by extension) coming into Galantri, it opens up more routes to immortality for the country. Meanwhile, the Radiance is still something to be uses sparingly if at all.
Much better than WOTI, which was so bad that I sold my copy. And glad that you put out a pdf version of this for reference. Thinking about going back to Mystara and using a bunch of the fanmade stuff for an extended campaign. This will be useful as the backstory.
You certainly have a talent for visual reference gags. That sneaking in of that Elf screenshot almost made me choke on my soda.
As an aside, I am trying to dig up some free software that allows me to convert an existing PNG to a hex grid (either via just an overlay, underlay or software that does it) , and I'm having a hell of a time tracking something down that DOESN'T paywall specifically the useful features.
See, this would be a fantastic and epic timeline to game through. Wrath of the Immortals fixed. There's still Immortals. There's still wrath. But now players have meaningful adventures they can take part in.
EPIC Rendition ! Thank you so much!!!
Please, I didn't need this influence right now, I'm already working a civil war into my current campaign setting.
Welchy That was Beautiful.
So this is just... fucking incredible. I'm running WOTI for my 5E campaign and I'm actually going to use some of this timeline instead--particularly the meteor!
I was playing in Clear Lake City when the meteor was brought up and the great crater was calculated by people whose job it was to measure craters. In order to have a greater 50 Mi across you would require the crater to be 30 miles deep. So we just went with nuclear winter instead. Because it was starting to turn into a Monty Python sketch
@@Mr_Welch I'll certainly be using the shadow elves re-write for sure--but the final showdown at the Nucleus is still going to happen--with Rad & Ixion having a showdown (the party cleric follows Ixion), the players trying to switch the nucleus to Entropy, and Alphatia gets ravaged (but not sunk) by the overloading from Rad using it to power his battle with Ixion. Also if the players fail they crack the planet--ain't no Old Ones bailing them out. :P
Bloomin' 'eck!
Hope this "Welch Cut" is going to be in the Vaults of Pandius as it's own thing, rather than just a correction?
Tenderised, old-man brain knows THAT happened, but remembering is like nibbled cheese.
Love your whole-world involvement and treatment… and I was going to say about a dozen things I loved, but it was rambling 'cause everyone gets a mention and… just… wow!
The original version War on All Sides is in the Vaults now, this is based on the revised version after a Monty Python sketch where two of my players who happened to know the formula for determining crater depth compared to width obsessed on the Great Meteor while I futilely tried to move the story along.
@@Mr_Welch lol
That made me laugh on a depressing day.
Thanks!
This is great. Thank you. Please let us know when you have updated the article at the Vault. It will come in very handy.
I don't want to start a campaign after all this. I want to start a campaign at the very start of this. Having a party scrambling to save themselves ot find loved ones amidst the war would be awesome
You do amazing work. Thank you for all that you do!
The thing that surprises me most is that Mystara is smaller than Earth, I thought it was like Warhammer's earth and was larger?
According to Thorf it's 18k across compares to 24k for Earth. 75% of the size.
Yeah, I thought it was bigger too. I could have sworn that I read somewhere that Mystara was larger than earth.
@@johnbalk6091 I would have sworn that as well, but that might be in a tiny bit of errata or a misprint in one of the later books. There are lots of references to miss Stars scattered throughout all of tsr's Publications, so someone might have added something because they felt the scale was off for it to be a hollow world
Beautiful pic choices and amazingly read as always
You rock brother
If Alphatia really wanted to beat Galantri they should introduce zanga to them then attack them at the boarder of Effingar.
I've been waiting for this. I presume a companion document is available as well?
I'm working in fixing several problems I found with it including retconning the retcons
@@Mr_Welch Mystara in a nutshell, huh? Regardless thank you for all your work on Mystara
OBS has a curve, I've seen several on here use it.
I used OBS for recording my Demo Game and it worked like a charm.
It's free and a little tricky but it's the best Open Source Broadcasting software available.
I reacted to "software I can buy" with the thought: Why not buy training on a useful open software package. There are some video editing that has a high first step but buying training and then getting the software for free seems like a better investment than buying software that is probably just a prosumer thing or will require training anyway.
SWEET LORD
ALMOST AN HOUR
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
And nah, don't bother with face cam. Or if you do, get a virtual avatar. Vtube Studio could work. I like you as a disembodied voice.
he could try an immortal character so he can have multiple avatars including a mist form with glowing eyes
@@joshuacollins8013 You. I like how you think.
Congrats on the milestone.
I have a problem with this timeline- Tiger clan forces seem to be everywhere during the first half. How could they muster so many troops? And if they do have that number of boots then why haven’t they taken Tenobar or the eastern clans of the Turtle clan before now?
Estimate Tiger forces would be about 5k, which is similar to the Turtle Clan, and with the revised Atruaghin book there is a whole bunch of sidhe and similar creatures between the Turtle and the Tiger that aren't fans of the Tiger Clan.
Tiger Forces are split between the various cities, so you're looking at maybe a few hundred in each area, while Fort Tenobar is a reinforced position with hundreds of dug in troops. Normally they are too spread out to pose a serious risk to their neighbors aside from raids. Master takes the bulk of the Tiger Clan and deposits them at various points, allowing them to run rampant against a foe unfamiliar with them. At least until the food runs out and then the hin show everybody why they have second breakfast.
Poor orcs always get the shaft.
@Mr. Welch do the remaining humanoids occupy the crater? Where do they end up if the Shadow Elves take control of the Broken Lands?
There is no crater. Meteor air bursts creating a nuclear winter. Humanoids scatter Kol goes to Glantri, Thar grabs what's left of Broken Lands. Alebane goes to Hinterlands. Everyone scatters in the chaos. Half of Darokin and the shire is in ruins plenty of places to run
@@Mr_Welch That’s right, no impact crater. I forgot. Even though there was a nuclear Winter in the original as well. Why would you have the Master attack the Shires? It doesn’t seem particularly resource rich. Did the Tiger clan and the Master’s forces want slaves, or just go on a murder-death-kill spree?
@@johnbalk6091 Attacking the Shires keeps the hin pinned in their own territory. They don't have a standing army so the Tiger Clan is unopposed at the start while they mobilize. Same reason Master lands troops in Karameikos to keep Darokin's allies delayed
@@Mr_Welch okay, makes sense, I guess. What I don’t get is how did the Master amass such a large army? The population of most nations is too low, with a few exceptions. Does Hule have more people? Was that a retcon? I remember we talked about Karameikos being underpopulated at one point. Like, completely underpopulated. It’s nothing like our ancient world where hundreds of thousands of troops would be going to war. What’s up with that?
@@johnbalk6091 According to the sources I found he's just above 50k strong, but RA/BS gives no explanation where his troops are from. We know a large number of his forces are humanoids, and he's got the desert nomads as allies which are pretty nebulous in their story. I gave him the 15k from Thar's Legion and the 5k from Tiger Clan to get him up to just under 75k troops. Darokin according to RA/BS has an army of almost 30,000. 30 legions at or around 1000 each. Compared to Thyatis which has 30 legions at 15,000 each, for 450,000 troops. Which explains why everybody on the mainland is terrified of Thyatis.
@Mr. Welch Now that you've done the alternate timeline, what's the odds of you doing the events that occur afterwards, ala the Poor Wizard's Almanac? Doing the whole 1010 year?
Would need to break down how each of them Advance would be difficult but not impossible
@@Mr_Welch After watching this video I picked up my copy of the Almanac and thought it would cool. You could always do an abridged version because there's A LOT of fluff. Just a thought. Cool helmet BTW.
Wouldn't the meteor crash right through into the hollow world?
Hollow world is still 600 miles through solid rock.
So... do the Heldannic Knights ever get Freiburg back?
Once Thyatis pulls out. Everybody starts pulling back as both Empires are overstretched
@@Mr_Welch Alright, fair enough. So the PCs can still kick them to the curb. Marvelous
I'm about 38 minutes into the video and I'm not sure what's happening with Ethengar. Are they going to attack someone?
Question for you. With the whole "week without magic" thing, is it ALL magic or just arcane? Back in the pre-3e days, there was less of an acknowledgement of different power types and effects (psionics was a big exception), but there has been a push over the last 20-some years to have different and unique sources of power. 4e, for its sins, did this in an interesting way, as does Pathfinder 2e (again, despite other issues).
Put another way, are you keeping the "all magic vanishes" thing due to the Radiance, or would it be all arcane magic is gone, but other magics are still able to work in reduced capacities? I'm thinking how the Time of Troubles from the Realms was portrayed, where divine magic was pretty much gone, arcane was REALLY screwy, and more exotic stuff was still more or less functional. So perhaps, say, divine magic had a level/power cap, or a type of wild magic effect.
This would also be a work-around for the Hollow World Apocalypse, where perhaps the sun was only dimmed, but not dark, and/or the Spell of Preservation (can we just call it a "curse" like it is? It's pretty messed up) could be affected in interesting ways.
All magic except the immortal
I'm left with the questions: So when did Alfheim fall to the shadow elves? Is that after this period?
This is instead of. In the raft time line Around 1006.. This happens in the background and others nothing the players can do. It's one of the least popular events of wrath of the immortals
Something messed up with your audio you've got lines that repeat
I tried to catch as much as I could it happened it happened about a dozen times I have no idea what caused it
@Mr. Welch 39:30 I have to completely disagree with that event. The Thothians at Ekto have A TON of undead at their disposal. The Almanac is very clear when the Thyatins try and take the city, they are so throughly curb stomped that they retreat and then ignore them completely. How can Viking raiders do what the Legions of Thyatis couldn't? Sorry dude, I don't buy it.
The bulk of the undead are at Edairo the capital. Outland picked the city because of its distance from the bulk of the Pharaoh's forces.
@Mr. Welch Just out of curiosity, does the Master control all of Sind at the end of the War? I couldn't make out some of the details at the end of the video.
Until they were routed they effectively controlled the majority of the nation and all of the major cities. The Alphatians then showed up and took over and made Sind a puppet state
@@Mr_Welch Wow, so the Master winds up getting his ass handed to him, with nothing to show for his efforts?
@@johnbalk6091 he gets hunted down by a very angry group of adventurers during the week without magic. That was taken almost word-for-word from Red Arrow black shield only I change the setting to the week without magic. As this time-line borrows heavily from that module
@@Mr_Welch Huh. That's wild. Yet another module that I'll have to pick up.
@@Mr_Welch Also, does that mean that the forces of Hule are leader less? Does that nation decend into civil war? Is there someone waiting to seize power? I'd love to hear what you'd think about what happens to Hule, post War.
So...how can 1 party of adventures see or hear all of this, in the one campaign. Or whats the smallest amount of parties you would need.
Probably would pick a region and take part in the numerous battles there. Darokin north, Darokin south, Isle of Dawn or the Thyatian and Alphatian incursions to the other's mainland.
Is there a place this is written? Vaults of Pandius maybe?
It's on the vaults
after decriminalisation of religion, which Immortal had the most clerics come out across Glantri?
Probably Chardastes patron of healing
@@Mr_Welch under cover doctors without borders
I don't know if it's just me but I have no sound
I have sound.
@@bonbondurjdr6553 I take it back, apparently it was my phone being weird
@@didact9571 it sometimes takes the sound a minute or two to download after the video goes live. Known issue with TH-cam and I have no idea how to fix it
@@Mr_Welch it's not something that you can control, don't worry about it. :3
@@Mr_Welch good to know
Thanks, blah, blah, blah, something something, what about Bargle?