Markov Chains: Recurrence, Irreducibility, Classes | Part - 2

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  • Let's understand Markov chains and its properties. In this video, I've discussed recurrent states, reducibility, and communicative classes.
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  • @yiyiyan7273
    @yiyiyan7273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is really nice for the beginners to understand the basic properties of markov chain. It would be great if your video could go further to the hidden markov chain and factorial markov chain:)

  • @Arjunsiva
    @Arjunsiva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Great to see high-quality educational channels like 3Blue1Brown coming from India. Btw, what software do you use to create the animations?

    • @NormalizedNerd
      @NormalizedNerd  3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      It's a python library named manim, created by Grant Sanderson!

  • @zahraheydari172
    @zahraheydari172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your channel and all your videos. I had a question watching this video: How does this relate to the definition of Markov chain which you provided in part one which said the probability of the future state only depends on the current state?

  • @Mithu14062
    @Mithu14062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very good precised explanation with nice animation. Thank you for your video. Please make more for solving numericals and implementation of practical scenario.

  • @wonseoklee80
    @wonseoklee80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. Now I can understand whenever I hear Markov chain!

  • @georgemavran9701
    @georgemavran9701 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing explanation! Can you also please explain the periodicity of a state in a Markov chain?

  • @abhishekarora4007
    @abhishekarora4007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    why this video has views only on thousands? it needs to be in millions!

  • @amritayushman3443
    @amritayushman3443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the videos. Helped me a lot. Would appreciate if you upload a video for complete in depth mathematical analysis of the Marco chain and its stationary probability.

  • @real.biswajit
    @real.biswajit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are really helpful dada❤

  • @OmerMan992
    @OmerMan992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos!
    Would you consider making video/s on Queueing theory for stochastic models please?

  • @yijingwang7308
    @yijingwang7308 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your video. But I am confused, you said Sum of Outgoing Probabilities Equals 1, but in the first example, the sum of outgoing probabilities of state 0 is less than 1?

  • @sushmitagoswami2033
    @sushmitagoswami2033 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the explaination!

  • @jingyingsophie8822
    @jingyingsophie8822 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't quite understand the part where 2 is also a recurrent state in the first example. If the definition of the recurrent state is where the probability of returning back to that state is =1 (i.e. guaranteed), wouldn't 2 be a transient state since there is the possible case where 1 goes back to itself only ad infinitum?

    • @dariovaccaro9401
      @dariovaccaro9401 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes that s true, I think he doesn't define well enough the two different cases

  • @iglesiaszorro297
    @iglesiaszorro297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very catchy! I request you to make more such videos on markov chains with these kinds of awesome representations!! Markov chains were a dread to me previously.. your videos are too cool!

  • @jayeshpatil5112
    @jayeshpatil5112 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't believe that Indian is at it's prime. Ek number explanation 🔥🔥🔥

  • @hansheytens6640
    @hansheytens6640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, dumb question. Shouldn't state 2be transient also. I mean, there is a extremely small chance (but not zero), that in a random walk we go from state 2 to state 1 and then we keep looping through state 1 forever, hence not coming back to state 2? No? Thanks love your vids.

  • @ianbowen6344
    @ianbowen6344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    5:46 - "Between any of these classes, we can always go from one state to the other." But how can we do that if two of the classes are self-contained? Do you mean that we can always move between states within each class?

    • @NormalizedNerd
      @NormalizedNerd  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      "we can always move between states within each class" This is what I meant.

    • @zenchiassassin283
      @zenchiassassin283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NormalizedNerd thanks

  • @willbutplural
    @willbutplural ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video again 👍

  • @ayushshekhar1901
    @ayushshekhar1901 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good presentation but I have a doubt in the end. How can we go from any state to any other state after transformation to similar states?

  • @SuiLamSin
    @SuiLamSin หลายเดือนก่อน

    very good video

  • @stivenap156
    @stivenap156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am now a fan! New subscriber !

  • @preritgoyal9293
    @preritgoyal9293 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great brother 👌👌
    So, if the stationary distribution has all non zero values, the chain will be irreducible ?
    (Since all states can communicate with each other)
    And Reducible if any of the states has 0 value in stationary distribution ?

  • @nicolasrodrigo9
    @nicolasrodrigo9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You are a very good math professor, thanks a lot!

  • @cassidygonzalez374
    @cassidygonzalez374 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos! Very clearly explained

  • @olesiaaltynbaeva4132
    @olesiaaltynbaeva4132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your channel is a great resource! Thanks!

  • @kindykomal
    @kindykomal ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don't our teachers teach like this , was hating maths few mins ago, till I turned this video ,Thank you so for this much-needed video 🥺, Now I kinda want to do PhD instead in this 😂🙏🏻

  • @arafathossain1803
    @arafathossain1803 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great one

  • @amarparajuli692
    @amarparajuli692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing content for ML and Data Science people. Keep up Bro. Will share it with my ML comrades.

  • @user-rd1ok6zs3f
    @user-rd1ok6zs3f 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gr8 vdo...
    class 1(state 0 ) and class 3 (state 3)...cant communicate with others, how are they communicative classes???

  • @kirananumalla
    @kirananumalla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very clearly explained! Yes would be useful if there are more videos..

  • @williammoody1911
    @williammoody1911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the videos. Can't wait to get you to 100k subs!

  • @AnonymousAnonymous-ug8tp
    @AnonymousAnonymous-ug8tp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:48 Sir, how come state 2 is recurrent state? It is possible that after reaching state 1, it keeps on looping back to state 1 forever, it is not "bound" to come back to state 2 from 1.

    • @alewis7041
      @alewis7041 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Recurrent state just means that after going from state to state infinitely, you will reach a giving state also infinitely. Generally, for very large numbers, 2 will be reached. 0, if we ran the transitions infinitely, would have a finite occurrence, a specific amount before it left state 0 and unable to return

    • @davethesid8960
      @davethesid8960 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, because recurrence at 1 isn't with probability 1. So, provided you wait long enough, you will eventually leave state 1.

  • @mohammedbelgoumri
    @mohammedbelgoumri 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, is the source code available somewhere?

  • @lebzgold7475
    @lebzgold7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing animation! Thank you.

  • @daniekpo
    @daniekpo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Just one observation; state 1 is NOT recurrent. A state cannot be recurrent and transient at the same time. The probability of never visiting state 0 again is greater than 0 so by definition it can't be recurrent. To be recurrent all paths leading out of the state has to eventually lead back to that state but that's no the case for state 0. I'm I missing something?

  • @melissachen1581
    @melissachen1581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think there is a mistake at 2:56? 2 is not a recurrent state because after we leave 2, the chance of going back to 2 is less than 1 when 1 recurse itself. Only 1 is a recurrent state because after we leave 1, it's 100% that we will come back to 1. Can someone confirm that?

    • @Mosil0
      @Mosil0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking the same thing, but I suppose if you consider an infinite number of steps, eventually the probability of going back to 2 approaches 100%

  • @harishsuthar4604
    @harishsuthar4604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like Stat Quest Channel BAM!!!
    Clearly Explained!!!

  • @webdeveloper-vy7hb
    @webdeveloper-vy7hb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you use Manim to represent the random walk by blinking effect? Could you share the portion of that code? I started learning manim recently but couldn't manage to do that.

    • @NormalizedNerd
      @NormalizedNerd  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I created a custom manim object to create the graphs (markov chains). Then I'm just walking through the vertices and edges. The blinking effect is just creating a circle and fading it immediately.

    • @webdeveloper-vy7hb
      @webdeveloper-vy7hb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NormalizedNerd I see. It will be great if you could share the custom object codes.

  • @geethanarvadi
    @geethanarvadi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If we have state space {0,1,2,3}
    And given Matrix then how to find the pij(n)? Please explain this 😢

  • @muhammadrivandra5065
    @muhammadrivandra5065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed, awesome stuff dude

  • @niccolosimonato1478
    @niccolosimonato1478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn that's a smooth explaination

  • @user-mh9eh2wl5n
    @user-mh9eh2wl5n 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @user-gs7jw1fn5u
    @user-gs7jw1fn5u 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow this kind of random walk demo is very helpful

  • @nid8490
    @nid8490 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At @2:36 : I beg to differ. There is a non-zero probability that once I go from State 2 to State 1; I would continue to be in State 1 forever. In this case, we are not *bound * to come back to State 2 ever again. So I wouldn't say the probability of ever coming back to State 2 from State 2 is *1*.
    (Or am I missing something here?)

    • @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417
      @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There isn’t a probability we’ll stay at state 1 forever. We can go from state 1 to state 1 again once twice or a billion times but we will come back to state 2 eventually.

  • @sumitlahiri209
    @sumitlahiri209 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic !!

  • @ahlemchouial4621
    @ahlemchouial4621 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank yo u so much, amazing videos!!!

  • @llss79
    @llss79 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could have explained why what is the utility of simplifying markov chains into irreducible and what is the math difference when considering them separated.

  • @anushaganesanpmp7602
    @anushaganesanpmp7602 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    please upload more in detail for properties and applications

  • @johnmandrake8829
    @johnmandrake8829 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes more please.

  • @c0d23
    @c0d23 ปีที่แล้ว

    ¿What books to learn statistics, prob and markov chain?

    • @NormalizedNerd
      @NormalizedNerd  ปีที่แล้ว

      Element of Statistical Learning (Springer)
      Markov Chains by J.R. Norris

  • @asthaagha9505
    @asthaagha9505 ปีที่แล้ว

    🥺🥺🥺thanq

  • @736939
    @736939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basically these are the strongest connected components.

    • @NormalizedNerd
      @NormalizedNerd  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right you are...strongly connected components

  • @karannchew2534
    @karannchew2534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Notes for my future revision.
    *New Terminologies*
    Transient states.
    Recurrence state.
    Reducible Markov chain.
    Irreducible Markov chain.
    Communicating Classes.

  • @dareenoudeh4485
    @dareenoudeh4485 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are awsome

  • @arvinpradhan
    @arvinpradhan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    discrete time markov chains and continuous time markov chains please

  • @kaushalgagan6723
    @kaushalgagan6723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    More 🤩....

  • @MrFelco
    @MrFelco 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hang on, if you define transient state as 'the probably of a state returning to itself is less than 1', then in the first example, would state 2 not also be a transient state? Reason being, there could be a random walk, in which you go from state 2 to state 1, and then state 1 keeps looping back on itself infinitely, never going back to state 2. Then the probability of state 2 returning to itself is less than 1, given there is a random walk in which it does not return to itself.

    • @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417
      @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The probability of state 1 returning to itself infinitely is 0. It is bound to return to 2 at some point.

    • @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417
      @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In all random walks that go on forever, we will go back to 2 if we start there.

  • @migratingperson1165
    @migratingperson1165 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Found this math concept from Numb3rs and got curious

  • @PsynideNeel
    @PsynideNeel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Facecam kobe asbe?

  • @SJ23982398
    @SJ23982398 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will be honest, was ready to find another video when heard the Indian accent. But then saw high upvote/downvote and stayed, and don't regret it!

  • @arounderror3747
    @arounderror3747 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    osu?

  • @tsunningwah3471
    @tsunningwah3471 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love you

  • @prakashraj4519
    @prakashraj4519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Add some music

  • @laodrofotic7713
    @laodrofotic7713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I paused the video @1:00 minute mark to tell you it is NOT DUCKING GOOD TO REFER TO STATE A B AND C WHILE THE F-ING PICTURE SAYS STATE 1 2 and 3. FFS, ok now I will watch the rest of it but I think this will be a waste of time just from this start, I can tell you cant explain crap.