pp-19 ammo are quite readily available even if you can't really buy them before flea. As a bear or USEC, you start off with quite a number of pst-gzh and m882 rounds respectively. Furthermore, fence has a pretty high chance of having these ammo available.
im not gonna lie. i've been rocking pp-19 for 2 months now almost exclusively on short-medium range maps. and im in love just due to vibes. The performance is... well... lets just say that 50% of the time it works everytime :)
I member the time when woods were full of hunters with Hunters, just creeping in the underbrush waiting to strike. My recent forgotten weapon is the RFB, as they removed M80 from iirc PK2 that gun just vanished from use.
True, no reason to use an RFB anymore, not even as an early wipe budget gun. By the time you have access to any real amount of decent ammo you can afford to run it's supperior competitors
An honorable pick for a forgotten weapon is the TT pistol. Once upon a time black tip ammo was absolutely lethal and as such the TT was a somewhat popular pick as a factory skill canon, among those people who could land those headshots. Now that it's ammo selection doesn't have a single round worth using, especially if going for legs isn't an option, this weapon is delegated into the same garbage bin that the PM is found in.
@ My group all fell out within a month when they added the stupid FiR thing. It seems like every time I’ve heard about an update since, my immediate reaction is “wtf, why?”
Had a bot in SPT yesterday absolutely rip through me with a PP19. I won the gunfight, but when I saw what he had I was like "WTF?" with my 3 blacked out parts.
Huntr vepr was my go to gun back when you could buy m61 on the flea. Id so so many tech store runs on interchange and still kill juicers in the way. Also 2 tapped killa 😂
If I had one wish, it would be to find a way to balance the game to make a lot of these underused guns viable. The thing is, the changes have very little to do with the guns themselves and a lot to do with gear availability, armor availability, ammo availability, etc. Honestly, Id love to see a Tarkov Hardcore mode that severely restricts the availability of high end armor, ammo, and attachments to loot/quest reward only, or the best of the high tier loot areas, and rare even then. Shotguns have been absolutely broken since time immemorial. Buckshot snad other multi-pellet rounds are so wildly unpredictable and the spread is way way too high compared to a shotgun in real life. Pump guns in real life rely on their ability to deal devastating damage in a single round to stop an aggressor immediately, instead of a smaller round striking a vital organ and the target bleeding out. Great video as usual brother.
Most of these guns are classic early wipe budget guns. Or were. But with the accessability of somewhat useable ammo being limited to a point where experienced players have already passed the need to run budget guns at all they barely get used anymore.
Maybe a little. but you can already get 50 round uzi mags, 50 round mpx mags, 50 round mp5 mags and those guns don't get used much. And they shoot faster than the PP-19 and handle just as well.
nice selection! would you say the ump or 45 cal in general has fallen from grace as well? Id say the m1a too, except for the quest, is mostly lost to players. too heavy, too expensive.
@@BearForce_One love the V 45, a top ttk gun. Used it a lot (and the ump) during the zombie fest with HydraShok. youre right about the mags tho. 5 or 6 minimum and loads of loose rounds
Would be cool to expand on this idea and maybe do forgotten ideas, maps and features of Tarkov
pp-19 ammo are quite readily available even if you can't really buy them before flea. As a bear or USEC, you start off with quite a number of pst-gzh and m882 rounds respectively. Furthermore, fence has a pretty high chance of having these ammo available.
Defo want to see more of these. And like that other smart fella said, definitely expand this idea on other forgotten tarkov things
Glad you have enjoyed!
im not gonna lie. i've been rocking pp-19 for 2 months now almost exclusively on short-medium range maps. and im in love just due to vibes. The performance is... well... lets just say that 50% of the time it works everytime :)
It's a fun gun, limited by mag size IMO
PP19. As Deadly Slob once said, its a killer bees attack
I member the time when woods were full of hunters with Hunters, just creeping in the underbrush waiting to strike. My recent forgotten weapon is the RFB, as they removed M80 from iirc PK2 that gun just vanished from use.
True, no reason to use an RFB anymore, not even as an early wipe budget gun.
By the time you have access to any real amount of decent ammo you can afford to run it's supperior competitors
Yea, maybe with M80A1 we will see M80 get nerfed slightly to be a better mid game bullet
@@JDogth3Wise That would be nice, cause I like the RFB I just don't see a reason to use it.
An honorable pick for a forgotten weapon is the TT pistol.
Once upon a time black tip ammo was absolutely lethal and as such the TT was a somewhat popular pick as a factory skill canon, among those people who could land those headshots.
Now that it's ammo selection doesn't have a single round worth using, especially if going for legs isn't an option, this weapon is delegated into the same garbage bin that the PM is found in.
Definitely agree on the TT. I remember it being legitimately good and then the ammo just got power crept hard!
Agree about T-5000, but for a reason it's the only serious bolty incapable of being equipped with a bipod.
Yes, that is definitely frustrating!
I do fuck with the Remington pumper, I like that you can mod it up pretty well early in the wipe.
Classy loadout
what about the mossberg in the shotties intro? too badass, ngl
@@joaomiguelxs You are correct, I was thinking of the mossy haha
I havent played in over 3 years; hearing that the Hunter is no longer popular is quite sad.
Yep it is a different place now
@ My group all fell out within a month when they added the stupid FiR thing. It seems like every time I’ve heard about an update since, my immediate reaction is “wtf, why?”
I’m old enough to remember when M80 was plentiful as hell and the hunter was god-tier.
Had a bot in SPT yesterday absolutely rip through me with a PP19. I won the gunfight, but when I saw what he had I was like "WTF?" with my 3 blacked out parts.
I tend to use the more obscure weapons later in the wipe when I'm done grinding Kappa or Lightkeeper.
VEPR HUNTER! was the best! Bush, M80/M62 with 10 round mags and PSO.. spent many hours ruining peoples raids with that setup.
Excellent video
I love these videos!
Huntr vepr was my go to gun back when you could buy m61 on the flea. Id so so many tech store runs on interchange and still kill juicers in the way. Also 2 tapped killa 😂
Good times
The pp19 and vpo used to be the only weapons I would use
Ah yes, another man of culture
Before all the changes and before I took a break… the PP used to be one of my go to guns. I’d have like 5-7 built and ready to go.
Classy
If I had one wish, it would be to find a way to balance the game to make a lot of these underused guns viable.
The thing is, the changes have very little to do with the guns themselves and a lot to do with gear availability, armor availability, ammo availability, etc.
Honestly, Id love to see a Tarkov Hardcore mode that severely restricts the availability of high end armor, ammo, and attachments to loot/quest reward only, or the best of the high tier loot areas, and rare even then.
Shotguns have been absolutely broken since time immemorial. Buckshot snad other multi-pellet rounds are so wildly unpredictable and the spread is way way too high compared to a shotgun in real life. Pump guns in real life rely on their ability to deal devastating damage in a single round to stop an aggressor immediately, instead of a smaller round striking a vital organ and the target bleeding out. Great video as usual brother.
Most of these guns are classic early wipe budget guns. Or were.
But with the accessability of somewhat useable ammo being limited to a point where experienced players have already passed the need to run budget guns at all they barely get used anymore.
Yep, meta is very calcified in terms of armor you expect to face, which means almost no reason to use anything that can't pen class 4
I quite like the semiauto VPO assault rifles
Good call, probably see them in the next one
VPO with AP-M is nasty for mid / close range
If BSG put a 60-round mag for the PP-19, it would get used more. I belive this 100%
Maybe a little. but you can already get 50 round uzi mags, 50 round mpx mags, 50 round mp5 mags and those guns don't get used much. And they shoot faster than the PP-19 and handle just as well.
Wipe progression is so fast that most guns are irrelevant to most of the player base
Spot on
T5000 users are either cool chill gamers or rage hackers 😂
Hunter is my choice for ratting cheap, suppress no one picks its up and shoots 7.62x51
What's up with the big lag spike when you fire a shotgun?
I dont know, but it was happening the whole time I was running the pump
nice selection! would you say the ump or 45 cal in general has fallen from grace as well? Id say the m1a too, except for the quest, is mostly lost to players. too heavy, too expensive.
I would say UMP is in the same spot as PP19, insane value early wipe and then immediately pushed out by rifles. So a good candidate for this series
@@JDogth3Wise hardly ever see the 45 vector being used either, the small mags plus bonkers fire rate make them crazy ammo hogs
@@BearForce_One love the V 45, a top ttk gun. Used it a lot (and the ump) during the zombie fest with HydraShok.
youre right about the mags tho. 5 or 6 minimum and loads of loose rounds
@@joaomiguelxs fair enough, i dont see it around much though
ak 74u bc you only use it fot punisher part 4 and its a vorst version of ak 74 un
IMO the VEPR is great :D
99% of the pistols....
No one uses the svt and avt either
54r in general is down bad
@@cillo1 AVT and PKM are very good IMO
i dont think you can get the avt from the flea, its a barter / scav gun only, but ive seen the random pmc rocking one early wipe.
@@joaomiguelxs I have gotten one from dorms marked room before🤣
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