Would it make an even greater and better foundation if you molded a thin layer of concrete that makes a nice and flat surface under the fine ground gravel? and then just add 1-2" of fine gravel on the top, before putting the flagstones??
You can make a great foundation with concrete for your flagstone, yes. But you wouldn't lay any fine ground gravel. In that case you'd want to mortar the flagstone to the concrete slab. We live in Minnesota with a heavy freeze/thaw climate and concrete cracks easily. This is our preferred method for longevity and easy repair in the future.
@@DrawnbyNatureLandscaping I live in northeast Ohio and have heavy freeze / thaw cycles as well. We will be putting down some sort of slate / flagstone it’s 12x24 and ranges in thickness from 1/2” to 1”. We were recommended a base of 3/4” to fine and a bedding of sand topping mix (quikrete) laid dry and misted before putting down pavers . Would you recommend something different ? Please help . Thanks so much Edit: to add I have well draining sandy soil next to my house where it will be laid
@G T for flagstone or slate that is thin, yes you need to use some sort of mortaring method. I'd be in favor of pouring a 4" concrete slab and then adhering the stone to that. The problem with 3/4 minus is that it's going to shift and will break the bond with concrete.
@@shaymoose17 thanks for the reply . What would be the worse that could happen if I laid it like in the video with no fine. 3/4 base no fine , and then the 1/4 chip (hpb) and hand leveled each piece so that each paver was flush while maintaining grade of course
@G T you're probably ok with that. My only fear is how thin your stone is and it not seating into your bedding layer with enough force. The plus about using the spec you were given about laying it on a mortar bed is that it's more solid and will bond the surrounding pieces.
@@lgomezmiami you have to level each stone individually as I'm sure you're aware. The larger the piece, the more stable it will be. Maybe instead of using granite chips between the flagstone joints like we did here try using polymeric sand. That will help keep the flagstone even sturdier. Just make sure your joint size isn't too large. There are some polymeric sands that can set and harden up to 4" wide.
So you just have to throw a bunch of rocks around?? I've just started my first real slate walkway. Hard on the brain. You guys did a great job here though.
That's what it all boils down to ha ha throwing rocks around. The larger pieces you use, the fewer pieces you have to fit and level. The smaller pieces you use, the more pieces you have to level but they're lighter so it's easier. Good luck!
Thank you very much! There are many different ways and techniques to lay flagstone. Sometimes it's a grueling process to get them to fit together, but it really all boils down to how disciplined you are with consistent joint sizes and also composition of sizes.
That's FINE and dandy, but us average people don't have freaking backhoes and diggers or heavy machinery. SO I may as well search for another video. Just assayin. And time lapse leaves NO room for tutorial instruction.
Not sure why you're all bent outa shape? It's just a video showing how we do things in Minnesota. There are plenty of videos out there to help you. If you have any specific questions just ask and I'll be happy to help you out.
That’s not a patio, it’s a work of art!
Thank you for your kind words!!
Love the flagstone patio!!!
Much appreciated!
Awesome works guys!
Thank you very much!!
Wow. Clean work. I really like it.
Thanks for the kind words Chad!
Would it make an even greater and better foundation if you molded a thin layer of concrete that makes a nice and flat surface under the fine ground gravel? and then just add 1-2" of fine gravel on the top, before putting the flagstones??
You can make a great foundation with concrete for your flagstone, yes. But you wouldn't lay any fine ground gravel. In that case you'd want to mortar the flagstone to the concrete slab. We live in Minnesota with a heavy freeze/thaw climate and concrete cracks easily. This is our preferred method for longevity and easy repair in the future.
@@DrawnbyNatureLandscaping I live in northeast Ohio and have heavy freeze / thaw cycles as well. We will be putting down some sort of slate / flagstone it’s 12x24 and ranges in thickness from 1/2” to 1”. We were recommended a base of 3/4” to fine and a bedding of sand topping mix (quikrete) laid dry and misted before putting down pavers .
Would you recommend something different ? Please help . Thanks so much
Edit: to add I have well draining sandy soil next to my house where it will be laid
@G T for flagstone or slate that is thin, yes you need to use some sort of mortaring method. I'd be in favor of pouring a 4" concrete slab and then adhering the stone to that. The problem with 3/4 minus is that it's going to shift and will break the bond with concrete.
@@shaymoose17 thanks for the reply . What would be the worse that could happen if I laid it like in the video with no fine. 3/4 base no fine , and then the 1/4 chip (hpb) and hand leveled each piece so that each paver was flush while maintaining grade of course
@G T you're probably ok with that. My only fear is how thin your stone is and it not seating into your bedding layer with enough force. The plus about using the spec you were given about laying it on a mortar bed is that it's more solid and will bond the surrounding pieces.
What kind of sand did you use for the joints? Polymeric sand?
We used 3/8ths granite chips. Was the same material we used to level the flagstone. It's all permeable.
Is the black stuff soil you spread around it or is that the granite chips?
After the patio was finished we spread out topsoil and grass seed.
I'm doing something similar. My question how do you keep the smaller pieces from shifting under foot?
@@lgomezmiami you have to level each stone individually as I'm sure you're aware. The larger the piece, the more stable it will be. Maybe instead of using granite chips between the flagstone joints like we did here try using polymeric sand. That will help keep the flagstone even sturdier. Just make sure your joint size isn't too large. There are some polymeric sands that can set and harden up to 4" wide.
@@DrawnbyNatureLandscaping thanks! I think I used toooo much sand to level. If it falls apart might just have to move to the polymeric stuff.
Thanks for the video guys... Looks great.. What did you use for a base? Does it compact and drain well.
Why the geo grid??
We always geogrid open graded base. There's no fines to lock the stone together, so adding the grid is just added strength.
Can’t believe I’m the only comment...Well, I like it anyway.
You've got the best comment on the thread! Thanks Shady, glad you liked it👍
So you just have to throw a bunch of rocks around?? I've just started my first real slate walkway. Hard on the brain. You guys did a great job here though.
That's what it all boils down to ha ha throwing rocks around. The larger pieces you use, the fewer pieces you have to fit and level. The smaller pieces you use, the more pieces you have to level but they're lighter so it's easier. Good luck!
Thank you very much! There are many different ways and techniques to lay flagstone. Sometimes it's a grueling process to get them to fit together, but it really all boils down to how disciplined you are with consistent joint sizes and also composition of sizes.
Plz do my backyard
That's FINE and dandy, but us average people don't have freaking backhoes and diggers or heavy machinery. SO I may as well search for another video. Just assayin. And time lapse leaves NO room for tutorial instruction.
Not sure why you're all bent outa shape? It's just a video showing how we do things in Minnesota. There are plenty of videos out there to help you. If you have any specific questions just ask and I'll be happy to help you out.