One of our exchange student from Europe who attended Dr Mzileni's module says he is the best lecturer they have ever had. They wish when they go back to Europe they would be taught by similar scholars. He evoked something in them. They are grateful.
Dr Mzileni is the kind of leaders we must not shove under the carpet. Let's preserve our intelligentsia. Please stay visible, Prof. I'm conferring the title to him today. Any responsible academic institutions must take note. Actually they are late not to have noticed that we have such a caliber for an academic.
I read Dr Mzileni's columns in The Sowetan Newspaper. His description of our condition is raw, crisp and clear, no sugarcoating. Such truths, the enemy and the dishonest, cannot stand. A few years back, he would have been "removed from society ". We've seen it happen to Bantu Biko,etc. Sadly, he was stopped from writing for the paper and persecuted by his varsity. Ume njalo Nyawose. Bayede
It feels like im listening to an interview in 1976, nothing has changed its extremely disturbing. Thank you Sizwe for giving Dr Pedro the platform to share his story
South African society has a long way to go. There are certain people/races that thrive on intimidation tactics, this has worked for them during apartheid and to a certain extent still does. We need strong and ethical leadership that will not be apologetic about doing the right thing.
And it seems they are the only political organisation prepared to face racism head on, all the others just bury their heads in the sand in hope that it will just disappear. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. What you won't confront persists!
10 minutes into the conversation and I can totally relate with Dr. Mzileni’s sentiments as a UFS Alumni and former employee. What a conversation. These are conversations that we should have openly and without fear and prejudice. Thank you Dr. Mzileni for opening up about your experiences at that institution. I have been taught by academics at that institution who are white yet they don’t have even a postgraduate diploma, but in turn a black academic is expected to have a Doctorate/Phd in the discipline
I remember that I never attended class but when I went to 1 class so every Tuesday and Thursday because he would be opening my eyes in various ways about poverty, school system, politics.
Greetings'what a powerful debate ones again, Mr Mzileni may God be with you and know this we won't be silenced forever someday a revolution will have take place white people or not....... This is time!!
Kudos to you Sizwe! You are truly making education fashionable. You are so young (youthful) to have a PhD. Again you are also displaying a fair amount of independence and a clear head.
The Freestate missed the golden opportunity. He does not just talk. He has living affection for empowering and relating with students to the extent that he can drag the meeting just to educate even the most hostile and antagonizing foe would feel the embrace of this product of the NMU. The guest Dr Pedro is the product of Nelson Mandela University who began as a student and occupied the leading roles in the students government development. Mzileni would not have apologized even if a gun was placed on his head. Come back home Pedro and we will see you Embizweni. This is our future registrar. Uhambo lube lude. Buyela ekhaya nyana womgquba.
This is a refreshing conversation. The issues discussed from 50:40 concerning the lack of support from colleagues draws my attention. There could be numerous reasons causing the lack support. Among others is that some positions in academia are held by non-South Africans who are not here to question the status quo, another reason is that there is high unemployment in the country and everybody fear unemployment.
Dr. Mzileni I have no means to express my excitement. I sometimes loose hope when I see and hear our people put up with nonsense of this settlers. Yaa one day we will be freed by you and your likes like host. Oh even if things are like this in our country, but it is not all lost. Keep up the good work. Keep on speaking, keep on educating.
Great debate. Freedom of speech is a vital part of any democracy. Challenges to perspectives also form part of the debate. This is referred to as robust debate. Let’s respect the power of debate.
Last week I finished a book... Cry Our beloved country...that book opened my eyes and made this phase of black consciousness we are going through much more relevant to why we need land...how whites think of blacks and how black were treated and continue to be treated...I also read Dancing in the Dust which come together very well with cry our beloved country....
This is actually very sad to hear. I can't believe that in 2023 Academics can still be persecuted for teaching about colonialism and racism. How are we supposed to progress?! How else are we supposed to heal?
Heal? Black people? dont make me laugh. The ANC and EFF have been perpetuating black peoples inferiority complex and for the longest time have never taught them to evolve and move beyond the past, but to always be there at every turn scratching at old wounds and refusing to allow the people to move beyond always being told they will only be victims, oppressed by someone. And every time other races so much as insults a black man, the ANC and especially the EFF is there to point and say "see, see we told you these people are racits" every fking time. The rest of the world is so fking tired of these tantrums and this self obsession and attacking of other people because you have nothing better to do. Everyone else is making a success of themselves and here is the majority, still assuming everyone is scheming against them. And that is exactly what the EFF wants people to believe. Nobody cares let me tell you that much, and the reason people attack the EFF and ANC is for the reason that they will only bring stagnation and more racialism.
Thanks Sizwe - brilliant conversation with Doc. Mzileni - so much information and just sharpness from Doc. absolute genius - Thanks again 4 inviting him through - u r really maturing Sizwe - where r ur AFRICAN SHIRTS??? - We miss you in them - cos we could see that they r tailormade just 4 u - Keep up the good work & much luv 2 ur mom - Ms Terry......God bless u & ur team.......🌴🐟🦖🪳🪴🍀🌻
I don't like the way Sizwe conducts his interviews. He should let the guy talk and only interrupt when necessary. I would listen to Dr Pedro from morning to sunrise
Please bring Zuma back to the podcast brother. I’m sure you have questions and thank you for giving this man Dr Pedro a platform to create awareness of the injustices in universities and creating a space for dialogue. People who aren’t in universities wouldn’t know what happening yet it impacts them.
My take home from this thought provoking conversation is that we have failed as Africans and we have something urgent to fix...and it's long overdue. So the behaviour of the likes of said institution and some whites who are stubborn and reluctant to change is not new. Why aren't black people pooling resources to build their own institutions of higher learning? We have so many gifted African academics who would thrive in Afro-centric institutions...so what's so difficult there? We don't even need to ask Robert Gumede and Patrice Motsepe as Julius once said...but really now, let's start looking at that as a possible solution.
I have always known that Pedro when Pedro successfully climbed the achelons of academic, he would NOT be a psuedo-critical thinker or educator. His contribution and insightin our Sociology third year were out of this world (I was always taking notes, even though we the same age or even older to him. I'm truly proud of Dr Mzileni's work, and wish him all the best with his 'Pedagogy of the Oppressed'. In fact he reminds me Paulo Freire. Also keep the fire burning Dr Mpofu-Walsh.... LOVE & RESPECT my brothers.✊
“Being silent is advancing the status quo” This is so accurate Dr. Mzileni, your sentiments resonate with those of Sihle Bolani in her book where she was voicing out her experiences of racism, injustice and inequality at a corporate institution.
Dr Siz, I've listened to a few of your interviews and I think this is one where "holding the space" is more important than interjection. There were a few moments in the interview where I was eagerly awaiting for the story to unfold and as it was unfolding, you interjected with a remark or a question which has some nuanced effect on how the narrative continued. Perhaps a more balanced approach of leveraging on your guest's strengths is needed. In some cases "holding the space" is creating safety, in some cases, it is nudging. Great as always, thanks.
i have just been privileged to be enlightened by your conversation with Dr Mzileni, Sizwe. Not so many are birthed in this mould . If it was not conspicuous, i venture to disclose that the litany of items he traversed are equally applicable in the corporate environment … in voluminous and volcanic proportions. it’s shameful , sickening and pathetic -egregiously so.
This man's words are true. I sadly cannot even speak of my own experience, because I still work there. Keep challenging these racist institutions. I am holding on till I get my PHD and then leave. This interview took courage. Great session gentlemen.
Great interview but I wish the end part of it where he put analysis on current social structure should have been given most of the time . I wish to hear him talk about politics, region and socio-economic
One word, Dr. became a threat to UFS. To them the black community is suppose to be ignorant, or rather act dumb, they will feed you, protect you, make you rich according to this embarrassing accepted reality. I like how He reminded us that knowledge is power, we can't keep accepting and self oppressing ourselves while we know we can do better, that must end. Thank you for being brave and so determined Dr. 🤝
Shuuu!!😭😭😭 What the Good Dr shed was just inhumane. We’re often criticised when we say African People cannot be racist, this is exactly what we’re talking about. We can prejudicial and discriminate against other races yes but we do not have the backing a system designed around our prejudice. We hope the Dr Pedro will find an institution he can be free at to implement, challenge and Improve the current system. Dr. Sizwe can we please get Dr. Lwazi Lushaba before he goes to the US 🤞🏾🤞🏾
Teaching history should compulsory especially how racial divisions started, forced removals , job reservations on racial ground and apartheid in general and its effects on various populations. Also what the news constitution and it addresses these issues in a free South Africa.
@Sizwe, please allow interviewees to give their full insights with less questions. Because the entire purpose of interviews is for interviewees to give there full story. I think you did not give Pedro more platform, to a point that at some point he spoke over you.
1:02:10 the human rights commission investigating Dr Mzileni… now that has totally enraged me. Absolutely disgusting& ridiculous. What our academic brethren go thru at these institutions is deplorable, to say the least. I’m beside myself. These people must fall.
Sizwe maybe your listeners could benefit more from an intellectual/scholarly discussion than a one-sided focus that affords an accused oneself a platform to justify themselves to people who only rely on the version they present, which also has a number of gaps. Even when one listens to the interview, one hears a lot of things - or a few questions comes to mind. Mzileni is undoubtedly talented and in very early days of his career, and has clearly spent most of his time at university as a student, than an employee. I wish him well. You're doing great work with this podcast.
THANKS TO THE CHANNEL, IM AFRAID DR MZILEZI RESIGNING , EFFECTS THE STUDENTS MORE THAN THE UNIVERSITY, BUT CIC MALEMA REFUSED TO APOLOGIZE TO THE HUMAN RIGHT COMMISSION, I THINK DR MUST DO THE same.
Good interview but we misses a lot Sizes coz you kept interjecting. We want to hear Dr Mzileni's input and not your "experiences". I personally appreciate your solo analysis but when you are interviewing a guest give them room to fully give insight, many points were left incomplete due to that. Otherwise, good show as usual 👊🏾
This is a content Colonists need to hear and understand, using English in my opinion is so ideal for this conversation. It's great that they are both Xhosas and siyayazi loo nto
Such a shame that this day in age we still have this in our institutions! I fear also that these so called human rights organizations, they only serve one race!
"All blacks are incompetent " PhD or not, thats according to most white South Africans. Look at UCT,UP,CapeTown high Court, Eskom with koko, Mkhwebane,
Unfortunate we cam not teach about the lies of the so called liberators...the ones in goverment ....propoganda all the way ...teach more about the murder and rape rates commited by the comrades .. corruption aswell .....
Its interviews like these when I realise the idea of an integrated multi cultural society is wishful thinking. There is a disconnect between black and white school of thought that will never be bridged, this is why black and white societies will always be different, we just view life differently.
Well, remember that it's South AFRICA not South EUROPE. You are a guest in THEIR country. It's YOU who has to integrate, not them! Talking about different schools of thought: which particular fundamental differences would you be able to identify?
"We must laugh at the stupitidy of racism", I like this. White people who are of sound mind should in some sense align with this understanding. There is nothing more stupid than racial classification.
I love a great interview: On the one side, a passionate guest with a single narrative, and on the other side a masterful, objective and well prepared interviewer. In great interviews the audience always leaves with more than when we arrived. We find that we have been stirred by the passion of the guest, but also informed about their feet of clay...what would they do differently next time? Is the narrative perhaps more complex than they would initially have had us believe? How does mocking a particular group of students win them over? Are the senior academics at our previously white universties really all dinosaurs stuck in a previous age? Is it really that simple, that black and white? This, unfortunately, was not a great interview. While Dr Mzileni's passion for his subject was remarkable, Sizwe's management of the complexities at stake was disappointing. Rather than objectively probing, challenging, and thickening the narrative, he was content to play the role of timid PRO and praise singer... It was the same old same old, of the good guys and the bad guys...haibo. I'm looking for interviews that will rekindle the hope that brilliant young academics can learn to skilfully inspire young minds of all backgrounds. I want to believe that passionate, brilliant academics like Dr Mzileni are the pied pipers who will liberate young minds from all of the shackles of the past...
When the good Dr. says we must laugh at whiteness and the ridiculousness of racism... I instantly thought of Julius Malema in court with the AFRIFORUM advocate, when Juju ridiculed that racism movement's advocate...I think that what the good Dr. Says was being applied in real time at that moment.
2+3=5 was taught "before 1994" - Therefore it is "Colonial Maths"....we must "decolonize OUR maths" to reflect the demographics of the African people so we can liberate our minds from "Settler Colonialism". Amandla !! Awethu !! Going forward the ANC and EFF will provide new answers to these equations...
Thank you Nelson Mandela University for producing such a gem. These are the type of scholars that UFS actually needs. I hope UFS will now leave him alone and rather focus on fixing itself. Dr Mzileni is guaranteed of a very bright future in higher education 🙏🏾🔥
One of my cousins, who attends at UFS, used to call me excited about your lectures. She was really fascinated about your delivery. She was shocked when heard that you're being charged and there sinester complaints about you.
I am just glad and happy that I got to be supervised by this man during my Honours year in Nelson Mandela University. I learnt a lot and continue to do so from him🙌❤️
Dr Pedro will definitely find a space where he belongs & where he is appreciated! He is a bright mind & needs to be protected at all costs, we need scholars like him who tell the truth about real issues. I wish him nothing but success! Aluta! ✊🏾
As a coloured male during my internship at UFS, I experienced similar situations and disciplinary enquiries. What was most scathing, and an experiential trauma that still lives with me, is that 95% of my evaluators/supervisors were white females. I wrote a scathing quarterly portfolio report, where I highlighted my experiences and the lack of cultural sensitivity. Swept under the rug. I was treated slightly better but noone spoke about it. The Department I studied under, again, mostly white. I am the 1st and only coloured Masters postgraduate in the history of that specific Department. It is an ambition of mine to be a lecturer in that Department, albeit it a challenging given that there is currently 1 black Dr., the HOD is coloured, and the rest of the Academic staff are white.
These are just scare tactics by a defeated ideology based on idiocy of racial superiority. Qhubeka Mntakwe uThixo ukhona futhi akukho nto ingenasizathu nasiphelo!
One of our exchange student from Europe who attended Dr Mzileni's module says he is the best lecturer they have ever had. They wish when they go back to Europe they would be taught by similar scholars. He evoked something in them. They are grateful.
Dr Mzileni is the kind of leaders we must not shove under the carpet. Let's preserve our intelligentsia. Please stay visible, Prof. I'm conferring the title to him today. Any responsible academic institutions must take note. Actually they are late not to have noticed that we have such a caliber for an academic.
I read Dr Mzileni's columns in The Sowetan Newspaper. His description of our condition is raw, crisp and clear, no sugarcoating.
Such truths, the enemy and the dishonest, cannot stand. A few years back, he would have been "removed from society ". We've seen it happen to Bantu Biko,etc.
Sadly, he was stopped from writing for the paper and persecuted by his varsity.
Ume njalo Nyawose. Bayede
Beautiful interview Dr Mzimeli owes the public a book.
I could listen to Dr Mzileni speak all day! What an intelligent man.
It feels like im listening to an interview in 1976, nothing has changed its extremely disturbing. Thank you Sizwe for giving Dr Pedro the platform to share his story
Dr should apply for a report through to Access to information Act
There are 26 universities in South Africa. I dare at least ONE of them to personally approach him. The UFS did not and does not deserve such gold.
Brilliant interview. The only bad thing about this interview is the fact that it comes to an end 🙏🏾👏🏾🔥
Very true...
What a treasure. It’s such a shame that he was targeted. I would hope his passion would not be dimmed by this experience.
South African society has a long way to go. There are certain people/races that thrive on intimidation tactics, this has worked for them during apartheid and to a certain extent still does. We need strong and ethical leadership that will not be apologetic about doing the right thing.
This can only be fixed if we take power from the racists
After hearing this u will understand why EFF behaves the way it does ❤💚🖤
And it seems they are the only political organisation prepared to face racism head on, all the others just bury their heads in the sand in hope that it will just disappear. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. What you won't confront persists!
He is speaking the EFF language
As ANC corruption & incompetence fails the black child the whites will be hated more and more. We see it in the rise of the EFF.
People in this country see what they want to see.
Eff its fine where they are.
10 minutes into the conversation and I can totally relate with Dr. Mzileni’s sentiments as a UFS Alumni and former employee. What a conversation. These are conversations that we should have openly and without fear and prejudice. Thank you Dr. Mzileni for opening up about your experiences at that institution. I have been taught by academics at that institution who are white yet they don’t have even a postgraduate diploma, but in turn a black academic is expected to have a Doctorate/Phd in the discipline
I remember that I never attended class but when I went to 1 class so every Tuesday and Thursday because he would be opening my eyes in various ways about poverty, school system, politics.
Greetings'what a powerful debate ones again, Mr Mzileni may God be with you and know this we won't be silenced forever someday a revolution will have take place white people or not....... This is time!!
Kudos to you Sizwe! You are truly making education fashionable. You are so young (youthful) to have a PhD. Again you are also displaying a fair amount of independence and a clear head.
Thank you!
The Freestate missed the golden opportunity. He does not just talk. He has living affection for empowering and relating with students to the extent that he can drag the meeting just to educate even the most hostile and antagonizing foe would feel the embrace of this product of the NMU. The guest Dr Pedro is the product of Nelson Mandela University who began as a student and occupied the leading roles in the students government development. Mzileni would not have apologized even if a gun was placed on his head. Come back home Pedro and we will see you Embizweni. This is our future registrar. Uhambo lube lude. Buyela ekhaya nyana womgquba.
Xa uhamba indlela engazange yahanjwa or yabonwa imfama nazo zibanemibone yoba bekumele uhamba njani, bubu revolutionary isono sakho Dr Mzileni, womelele mhlekazi usazi ubusosula izithukuthu. Salute!
This is a refreshing conversation. The issues discussed from 50:40 concerning the lack of support from colleagues draws my attention. There could be numerous reasons causing the lack support. Among others is that some positions in academia are held by non-South Africans who are not here to question the status quo, another reason is that there is high unemployment in the country and everybody fear unemployment.
This was EXCELLENT. Thank you to both of you.
Dr. Mzileni I have no means to express my excitement. I sometimes loose hope when I see and hear our people put up with nonsense of this settlers. Yaa one day we will be freed by you and your likes like host. Oh even if things are like this in our country, but it is not all lost. Keep up the good work. Keep on speaking, keep on educating.
What a lovely conversation, from start to finish. He articulates his thoughts so clearly and speaks factually.
An insightful conversation and eye opening about issues and their dynamics at UFS.
Clear and Sober! Engages us through and through! Siyabonga abo DR...
I am so glad I watched this interview, what an eye opener 🙌🏾
Great debate. Freedom of speech is a vital part of any democracy. Challenges to perspectives also form part of the debate. This is referred to as robust debate. Let’s respect the power of debate.
What a wonderful interview Sizwe and your guest, Dr Mzileni. I subcribe to this beautiful mind.
Amazing things happen once you become true to yourself. You can hear he's not even compromising that principle.
Great staff 👌
Last week I finished a book... Cry Our beloved country...that book opened my eyes and made this phase of black consciousness we are going through much more relevant to why we need land...how whites think of blacks and how black were treated and continue to be treated...I also read Dancing in the Dust which come together very well with cry our beloved country....
Viva doctor , continue to enlighten the children of Mzansi
This is actually very sad to hear. I can't believe that in 2023 Academics can still be persecuted for teaching about colonialism and racism. How are we supposed to progress?! How else are we supposed to heal?
Hello Member! It is sad to see. That’s why we keep telling these stories.
Especially in South Africa!
Those who benefit from colonialism and apartheid do not want society to delve into these topics because most will realise that much hasn't changed.
Heal? Black people? dont make me laugh. The ANC and EFF have been perpetuating black peoples inferiority complex and for the longest time have never taught them to evolve and move beyond the past, but to always be there at every turn scratching at old wounds and refusing to allow the people to move beyond always being told they will only be victims, oppressed by someone. And every time other races so much as insults a black man, the ANC and especially the EFF is there to point and say "see, see we told you these people are racits" every fking time. The rest of the world is so fking tired of these tantrums and this self obsession and attacking of other people because you have nothing better to do. Everyone else is making a success of themselves and here is the majority, still assuming everyone is scheming against them. And that is exactly what the EFF wants people to believe. Nobody cares let me tell you that much, and the reason people attack the EFF and ANC is for the reason that they will only bring stagnation and more racialism.
@@raymondshiburi9151😂
What an interesting conversation, well done Doctors ✔👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks Sizwe - brilliant conversation with Doc. Mzileni - so much information and just sharpness from Doc. absolute genius - Thanks again 4 inviting him through - u r really maturing Sizwe - where r ur AFRICAN SHIRTS??? - We miss you in them - cos we could see that they r tailormade just 4 u - Keep up the good work & much luv 2 ur mom - Ms Terry......God bless u & ur team.......🌴🐟🦖🪳🪴🍀🌻
Thank you dr Mphofu for inviting this grt mind...
2024 will definitely be our 1994. Thank you Dr Sizwe
Very informative.❤What a great episode..
When we understand that the university is the intellectual arm of the state, what happened to Dr Mzileni shouldn’t really be a surprise to anyone.
I don't like the way Sizwe conducts his interviews. He should let the guy talk and only interrupt when necessary. I would listen to Dr Pedro from morning to sunrise
Nice discussion my brothers, can Sizwe please invite Andile Mngxitama, Joel Modiri and Ndumiso Dladla for a discussion.
A refreshing and necessary conversation this.
Amazing podcast. We need Dr. Mzileni to come back and update us on the outcome of the Human Right Commission investigation!!!
Please bring Zuma back to the podcast brother. I’m sure you have questions and thank you for giving this man Dr Pedro a platform to create awareness of the injustices in universities and creating a space for dialogue. People who aren’t in universities wouldn’t know what happening yet it impacts them.
My take home from this thought provoking conversation is that we have failed as Africans and we have something urgent to fix...and it's long overdue. So the behaviour of the likes of said institution and some whites who are stubborn and reluctant to change is not new. Why aren't black people pooling resources to build their own institutions of higher learning? We have so many gifted African academics who would thrive in Afro-centric institutions...so what's so difficult there? We don't even need to ask Robert Gumede and Patrice Motsepe as Julius once said...but really now, let's start looking at that as a possible solution.
This was a good one. Really good podcast episode.
I was looking forward to having Dr Mzileni as my supervisor next year at the school now we shall see
I have always known that Pedro when Pedro successfully climbed the achelons of academic, he would NOT be a psuedo-critical thinker or educator. His contribution and insightin our Sociology third year were out of this world (I was always taking notes, even though we the same age or even older to him. I'm truly proud of Dr Mzileni's work, and wish him all the best with his 'Pedagogy of the Oppressed'. In fact he reminds me Paulo Freire. Also keep the fire burning Dr Mpofu-Walsh.... LOVE & RESPECT my brothers.✊
Absolutely loved this dialogue!
Great black excellence, power to this Dr✊️
“Being silent is advancing the status quo” This is so accurate Dr. Mzileni, your sentiments resonate with those of Sihle Bolani in her book where she was voicing out her experiences of racism, injustice and inequality at a corporate institution.
Dr Siz, I've listened to a few of your interviews and I think this is one where "holding the space" is more important than interjection. There were a few moments in the interview where I was eagerly awaiting for the story to unfold and as it was unfolding, you interjected with a remark or a question which has some nuanced effect on how the narrative continued. Perhaps a more balanced approach of leveraging on your guest's strengths is needed. In some cases "holding the space" is creating safety, in some cases, it is nudging. Great as always, thanks.
i have just been privileged to be enlightened by your conversation with Dr Mzileni, Sizwe. Not so many are birthed in this mould . If it was not conspicuous, i venture to disclose that the litany of items he traversed are equally applicable in the corporate environment … in voluminous and volcanic proportions. it’s shameful , sickening and pathetic -egregiously so.
This man's words are true. I sadly cannot even speak of my own experience, because I still work there. Keep challenging these racist institutions. I am holding on till I get my PHD and then leave. This interview took courage. Great session gentlemen.
"You can't be neutral on a moving train"~Howard Zinn
Great interview but I wish the end part of it where he put analysis on current social structure should have been given most of the time . I wish to hear him talk about politics, region and socio-economic
Every first year student at the UFS should watch this interview as part of their orientation.
One word, Dr. became a threat to UFS. To them the black community is suppose to be ignorant, or rather act dumb, they will feed you, protect you, make you rich according to this embarrassing accepted reality. I like how He reminded us that knowledge is power, we can't keep accepting and self oppressing ourselves while we know we can do better, that must end. Thank you for being brave and so determined Dr. 🤝
Shuuu!!😭😭😭
What the Good Dr shed was just inhumane. We’re often criticised when we say African People cannot be racist, this is exactly what we’re talking about. We can prejudicial and discriminate against other races yes but we do not have the backing a system designed around our prejudice.
We hope the Dr Pedro will find an institution he can be free at to implement, challenge and Improve the current system.
Dr. Sizwe can we please get Dr. Lwazi Lushaba before he goes to the US 🤞🏾🤞🏾
This was so refreshing @Sizwe Thank you
I had the opportunity to meet Proff Sabelo Ndlovu-Gatsheni at University of Zululand ❤
Hi Sizwe, in the interview you said that you will share the link to the video where Dr Pedro was criticising the UFS vision in the description 😊
Hi we have updated the description and added the link.
@@_SMWX many thanks 👊🏿
Ayeye, Vote EFF!
So painful but anyway thanks Sizwe for affording Dr Pedro
As the saying goes equality feels like oppression to wyt ppl.
Oohhh my i an glad i studied within the social sciences somehow this interview revoked some of the thoughts i had 😢😢😢😢😢
Teaching history should compulsory especially how racial divisions started, forced removals , job reservations on racial ground and apartheid in general and its effects on various populations. Also what the news constitution and it addresses these issues in a free South Africa.
@Sizwe, please allow interviewees to give their full insights with less questions.
Because the entire purpose of interviews is for interviewees to give there full story. I think you did not give Pedro more platform, to a point that at some point he spoke over you.
Brooo I wanted to say that.. I wish he can allow Interview to flow. No interruption
Plz Dr size give your geust a chance
Aw Dr Pedro 💯
1:02:10 the human rights commission investigating Dr Mzileni… now that has totally enraged me. Absolutely disgusting& ridiculous. What our academic brethren go thru at these institutions is deplorable, to say the least. I’m beside myself. These people must fall.
Sizwe maybe your listeners could benefit more from an intellectual/scholarly discussion than a one-sided focus that affords an accused oneself a platform to justify themselves to people who only rely on the version they present, which also has a number of gaps. Even when one listens to the interview, one hears a lot of things - or a few questions comes to mind. Mzileni is undoubtedly talented and in very early days of his career, and has clearly spent most of his time at university as a student, than an employee. I wish him well. You're doing great work with this podcast.
"Any story sounds true until someone tells the other side and sets the record straight." (Proverbs 18:17 TLB)
As a former student of the UFS I remember we signed petition to clear out the Name of DR Mzileni since it was dragged in the mug
THANKS TO THE CHANNEL, IM AFRAID DR MZILEZI RESIGNING , EFFECTS THE STUDENTS MORE THAN THE UNIVERSITY, BUT CIC MALEMA REFUSED TO APOLOGIZE TO THE HUMAN RIGHT COMMISSION, I THINK DR MUST DO THE same.
Such a great content
🙏🏽
One day please invite Prof Jinja Divala from UJ 🙏🏾
Lol SIZWE KEEPS INTERFERING WITH THE 🔥 TRAIN OF THOUGHT OF THE DR
But then it goes even deeper. 😅
I totally agree with you..
Usually, Sizwe doesn't do that, but this time around, he was interrupting him, but half a loaf is better than nothing.
This is a scholar of note
I'm waiting patiently indeed black regarding the status or position have been persecuted..
“It feels like there is a new sheriff in town.”😂😂😂😂
He's got some humour 😂😂
Good interview but we misses a lot Sizes coz you kept interjecting. We want to hear Dr Mzileni's input and not your "experiences". I personally appreciate your solo analysis but when you are interviewing a guest give them room to fully give insight, many points were left incomplete due to that. Otherwise, good show as usual 👊🏾
It goes without saying that our constitution needs to be rewritten in SA
Please invite Judge President John Hlope.
Ngenikhe nathetha nesxhosa noba yi 30 minutes madoda sikwi deconilisation project aph
This is a content Colonists need to hear and understand, using English in my opinion is so ideal for this conversation. It's great that they are both Xhosas and siyayazi loo nto
Such a shame that this day in age we still have this in our institutions! I fear also that these so called human rights organizations, they only serve one race!
Your sit in the EFF it's waiting for you sir.
"All blacks are incompetent " PhD or not, thats according to most white South Africans.
Look at UCT,UP,CapeTown high Court, Eskom with koko, Mkhwebane,
It's unfortunate that we are not allowed to teach decoloniality to protect the victim hood of minorities.
Unfortunate we cam not teach about the lies of the so called liberators...the ones in goverment ....propoganda all the way ...teach more about the murder and rape rates commited by the comrades .. corruption aswell .....
Its interviews like these when I realise the idea of an integrated multi cultural society is wishful thinking. There is a disconnect between black and white school of thought that will never be bridged, this is why black and white societies will always be different, we just view life differently.
Well, remember that it's South AFRICA not South EUROPE.
You are a guest in THEIR country. It's YOU who has to integrate, not them!
Talking about different schools of thought: which particular fundamental differences would you be able to identify?
Yeah, and there's a mathematical model related to racism indicating it to be of a sinful nature, but a scientific aspect that is very important.
Well articulated my brother.
But I will not speak for no black person, they all have their own mounths.
"We must laugh at the stupitidy of racism", I like this. White people who are of sound mind should in some sense align with this understanding.
There is nothing more stupid than racial classification.
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I love a great interview:
On the one side, a passionate guest with a single narrative, and on the other side a masterful, objective and well prepared interviewer. In great interviews the audience always leaves with more than when we arrived. We find that we have been stirred by the passion of the guest, but also informed about their feet of clay...what would they do differently next time? Is the narrative perhaps more complex than they would initially have had us believe? How does mocking a particular group of students win them over? Are the senior academics at our previously white universties really all dinosaurs stuck in a previous age? Is it really that simple, that black and white?
This, unfortunately, was not a great interview. While Dr Mzileni's passion for his subject was remarkable, Sizwe's management of the complexities at stake was disappointing. Rather than objectively probing, challenging, and thickening the narrative, he was content to play the role of timid PRO and praise singer... It was the same old same old, of the good guys and the bad guys...haibo.
I'm looking for interviews that will rekindle the hope that brilliant young academics can learn to skilfully inspire young minds of all backgrounds. I want to believe that passionate, brilliant academics like Dr Mzileni are the pied pipers who will liberate young minds from all of the shackles of the past...
When the good Dr. says we must laugh at whiteness and the ridiculousness of racism... I instantly thought of Julius Malema in court with the AFRIFORUM advocate, when Juju ridiculed that racism movement's advocate...I think that what the good Dr. Says was being applied in real time at that moment.
2+3=5 was taught "before 1994" - Therefore it is "Colonial Maths"....we must "decolonize OUR maths" to reflect the demographics of the African people so we can liberate our minds from "Settler Colonialism". Amandla !! Awethu !! Going forward the ANC and EFF will provide new answers to these equations...
Thank you Nelson Mandela University for producing such a gem. These are the type of scholars that UFS actually needs. I hope UFS will now leave him alone and rather focus on fixing itself. Dr Mzileni is guaranteed of a very bright future in higher education 🙏🏾🔥
He just got into our institution University of Zululand......and yeses he is the best, such gold right in front of us❤
One of my cousins, who attends at UFS, used to call me excited about your lectures. She was really fascinated about your delivery.
She was shocked when heard that you're being charged and there sinester complaints about you.
The UFS lost a gem here.
I am just glad and happy that I got to be supervised by this man during my Honours year in Nelson Mandela University. I learnt a lot and continue to do so from him🙌❤️
Dr Pedro will definitely find a space where he belongs & where he is appreciated! He is a bright mind & needs to be protected at all costs, we need scholars like him who tell the truth about real issues.
I wish him nothing but success! Aluta! ✊🏾
I got the chance to attend some of his lectures and am pleased to say he opened my eyes in so many ways
Every episode of SMWX is like reading chapter of a book, a reminder that I know nothing
As a coloured male during my internship at UFS, I experienced similar situations and disciplinary enquiries. What was most scathing, and an experiential trauma that still lives with me, is that 95% of my evaluators/supervisors were white females. I wrote a scathing quarterly portfolio report, where I highlighted my experiences and the lack of cultural sensitivity. Swept under the rug. I was treated slightly better but noone spoke about it.
The Department I studied under, again, mostly white. I am the 1st and only coloured Masters postgraduate in the history of that specific Department. It is an ambition of mine to be a lecturer in that Department, albeit it a challenging given that there is currently 1 black Dr., the HOD is coloured, and the rest of the Academic staff are white.
These are just scare tactics by a defeated ideology based on idiocy of racial superiority. Qhubeka Mntakwe uThixo ukhona futhi akukho nto ingenasizathu nasiphelo!
Good to see coloured people speaking up so that it doesn’t look like its just “africans” complaining