This is the best version I have found even with the muted sound to Johnny's aria. Viewers need to make this go viral for our times now in 2023 all over the world. The actors/singers are wonderful here!
Cette pièce est juste magnifique, les chansons sont belles, l’histoire est touchante mais surtout: cela décrit littéralement ce qu’il se passe actuellement, c’est une pièce en avance sur son temps, il y a tout: les inégalités, le désarroi de la classe populaire amenant de la violence, la récupération politique de ce désarroi, terrorisme et excès sécuritaire, une classe politique toujours plus aveugle et violente, dépression et anxiété générale, mondialisation qui a rendu notre monde fade, critique du show business, place de l’homosexualité etc j’en passe et des meilleurs. C’est tellement touchant
Oui. Et le naziland n'est pas comme je le pensais à l'époque un simple parti, mais bien ce qui gouverne ce monde depuis si longtemps, sous couvert de "démocraties" et de belles devises, ce sont les marionnettistes qui sont derrière les pions politiues.
Merci à ma maman de m'avoir fait découvrir ce spectacle musical dotée de magnifiques et de pures voix sans artifices. J'avais 9 ans quand elle m'a fait écouter cette merveille, j'en ai 24 aujourd'hui et je ne m'en lasse toujours pas 🫠 les frissons et les émotions que je peux ressentir sont justes indescriptibles... Je ferai découvrir ce pur chef d'œuvre a mes enfants ça c'est sûr !
Ребята, я была на первом показе Стармании в Москве в 1989 г!! И ничего более великолепного из рок-опер мне не пришлось больше услышать!!!!! а лет прошло посчитайте сколько 🌟ЭТО ШЕДЕВР; ПРИКОСНИТЕСЬ К НЕМУ.
90-е... я - подросток. У нас часто крутили Старманию на телеканале 2×2... Влюбилась окончательно и бесповоротно! Ошеломительный звук, шоу, текст на французском и остаётся только догадываться, о чём спектакль. Но мне, 16-летней было совсем неважно! Полифония поглотила меня всю... Была сдвоенная пластинка - 2 диска в одной обложке, заслушанная до дыр... И , к счастью, нашлись тогда турбонаушники, которые давали ощущение, что я в зале сижу... Потом долго искала в интернете запись, и вот - я тут. Спасибо вам огромное за то, что выложили запись!!!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Процветания создателям этой рок-оперы и актёрам🌿
К сожалению, Мишель Берже умер в далеком 92 году, и английская версия так и не покорила Бродвей, как он мечтал. Но шедевр остался с нами на века. А актеры как-будто там и живут, только оболочки стареют отдельно. ❤❤❤
I just cannot believe how this musical became our reality I really LOVE the way it takes over the social problems such as injustice disadvantages badness gangsters the rich...
Well, having tried for several days, I have now managed to restore the sound missing in this copy. Although I have a little French, the subtitles are a great help. Thanks for your efforts in getting this copy onto TH-cam. Why it was screwed up, translated to English and called Tycoon I will never understand!
Tycoon was a great idea in theory. the problem is they picked the wrong person to translate the lyrics. like… why did Travesti (Transvestite) become You Get What You Deserve?
saw this two days ago in strasbourg! it was incredibly. i am a student studying in france but im from new york and have seen dozens of broadway shows. this show was INCREDIBLE by broadway standards too. never seen lighting like that. it was so good
C’est un spectacle qui me fait toujours vibrer, les mots des textes sont plus qu’actuels, infiniment touchants, on peut dire que l’auteur des chansons est un génie. Merci beaucoup pour nous avoir donné ces moments inoubliables.Si l’opéra de Starmania joue en quelque part, je me jure d’y aller.Merci mille fois.
`This is wow. I have been listening to 1 month non-stop. The best version - all are incredible. But Norman Groulx is just addictive. Come back to music, Norman!
I saw this show Sept.1980 in Montréal.(Different cast except for Martine Saint-Clair, Crystal) I was 17. Well, I'm done. I can't work anymore today. I'm too shooked right now. This show back then was life changing for me.
My Canadian French teacher introduced this to us in high school...I was around the same age. Stella Spotlight has always spoken to me for some reason. I've heard Ronnie Spectors' version of Les Adieux...it doesn't have the same spark.
You are so lucky! I was able to find only a few photos and short video excerpts from that Starmania. And Maybe you remember how the show finished? What happened to Johnny, Cristal (obviously dies but how?), Marie-Jeanne, Stella, and Zero? Thank you in advance for your resposnse.
@@JBiggsofWSNC You are so lucky! I was able to find only a few photos and short video excerpts from that Starmania. And Maybe you remember how the show finished? What happened to Johnny, Cristal (obviously dies but how?), Marie-Jeanne, Stella, and Zero? Thank you in advance for your resposnse.
@@Dr_ClementCe n'est pas exact 😂 Maurane a quitté la troupe car elle était en dépression, Réjane étant déjà sa doublure la tout naturellement remplacer
Pourquoi dis tu que cet opéra t’a bousillé la vie? Ta réponse m’intéresse car j’ai également été bouleversé par cet opéra quand j’avais 10 ans mais je n’avais jamais réalisé à quel point ça a pu impacter ma vie et ton commentaire me parle…
Repeating for anyone who missed the video description: SOS d'un terrien en détresse is getting the video blocked on youtube (the other songs are just "claimed") so I had to mute it. Maybe try playing someone else's unblocked SOS vid in the background during the muted portion? Here's one if it hasn't also been blocked by the time you watch this: th-cam.com/video/KdbOYvbru3c/w-d-xo.html
La traduction est tres bien faite. Bravo et merci de nous redonner Starmania, plus que jamais d'actualite. J'ai eu la chance de voir le spectacle en 1990 (Renaud Hantson chantait Johnny Rockfort et il etait excellent) et cela reste un de mes plus grands souvenirs. Soiree exceptionnelle et oeuvre immortelle! Merci de m'avoir donne l'opportunite de la revivre une fois de plus.
Passant à Panam, JJG m'avait invité à l'accompagner à l'Opéra-Rock Starmania... Rebuté lui-avais-je confié par le terme "Opéra" j'avais décliné mais comme il insistait en rigolant...! ...Encore merci, Grand Monsieur !
I wonder if Tim Rice's lyrics were written in anticipation of a major rewrite of the show - they changed so much, apparently reassigning some songs to different characters, implying events that don't appear in the show, completely rewriting Banlieue Nord into a scathing commentary on the natures of the romances in the show... or if he just didn't understand the plot and made it up as he went along.
@@daviddupont517 it sounds like a direct response to Cristal's interview questions, especially the added element of "or else embrace the cause - we know you know we're right".
@@daviddupont517 I'm talking about the Tim Rice lyrics: th-cam.com/video/kMXJlfp3cLk/w-d-xo.html There's 30 seconds of something random at the start of the video, but hopefully that link will take you to the right point.
As a french native speaker, regarding the subtitles provided for the first song of Nadia, I am quite shocked by the translation of "travesti" (transvestite) by the f*** word..I don't entirely agree with such translation but I am no expert.
@@KenBreadbox It doesn't fit the rest of the performance. In French there's not a single vulgar word used any time, the worst one being "to ejaculate" in Stella's song.
@@thear1s A good point. If anybody did produce vulgarity, though, I would suggest it would be Sadia. Incidentally, I'm not a native speaker. I have a degree that says I'm fluent: it lies through its teeth. How would you translate those phrases?
@@KenBreadbox I'm not fluent enough in English to choose the best word. "Travesti", "Transvestite" or "transdresser" would probably be the best fit but it wouldn't work today because the LGBTQ vocabulary has evolved in 40 years. If the song was written today, Sadia would probably use the word "Queer" or be a trans woman. It's my least favorite song of Starmania together with the song of Stella Spotlight.
I would have said not to insult Zéro but then I reached the line about making the world great again... 😂 Is that really actually literally the line in French or an inspired translation?
@@razanailan7967 Thanks for the translation/explanation and your thoughts on it. A slightly more poetic touch is closer to my first impression of him (don't ask whatever I based that on as I don't remember... 🤷♀️), but then I just as easily bought into the more current paraphrase. This thread is giving me a new appreciation for Zero
man, after listening to the 1979 recording, i am wondering why they removed like a third of the songs and a whole-ass character (le grand gourou marabout). the world of starmania used to be way darker…
@@axotank810In the first show (which is an adaptation of Starmania's first album in 1979) There were characters who disappeared over time... " Le gourou marabout" and " l'extra-terrestre " ( the 79 show also has unreleased songs that were never played again after)
Very intriguing Rock Opera. Is the character of Sadia really supposed to be a transvestite (as in a man dressed as a woman) or it it a metaphor? And in the original version Ziggy states that he want to be a Rock dancer (and here a drummer?)
Yes she (he) is a transvestite but always played by a woman. And you are correct, in 1978, it was a rock dancer and in 88 they change it to rock drummer to showcase the drum solo
It seems they've changed this because the artist that plays Ziggy in this version is a great drummer. He got a prize at the conservatory for drum playing
Yes, actually Sadia was supposed to be played by a man. However, it was said in an interview they picked a woman who played a "strong woman" because that was the kind of vibe they wanted for Sadia. Men kept playing the character as a "weak man" during the casting. It became a tradition and a lot of people forgot Sadia is supposed to be a man.
@@FromChinatoyou That explains why the casting for the new production calls for either a male or female actor. I thought they were making changes to the character.
@@martinrapilly3679 exactly right ! That would be Renaud Hantson (th-cam.com/users/RenaudHantson), originally he is the founder, drummer, backsinger, and then singer of a french Heavy Metal band known as Satan Jokers. Here he played Ziggy, but for the last year of the show he played the main character Johnny Rockfort which was the one he actually wanted to play in the first place.
Amazingly prescient and beautiful show. And a big thank you for the high quality English translation with two small corrections. Why translate ‘travesti’ as ‘genderfuck’ instead of ‘transvestite’? And ‘Boulevard du Crépuscule’ refers to ´Sunset Boulevard’ not ‘twilight’. Le célèbre classique de Hollywood quoi! 😊
good catch re: Sunset Boulevard. I think I thought they were parodying it rather than referencing it directly, thus my translation. As a (cis) lesbian, I consulted with a group of my queer Starmania fandom friends including people who are both trans and nb/gnc to come up with a translation for Sadia's use of the word "travesti" that 1. makes sense given what we know about Sadia's character and 2. isn't a literal slur. I'm very happy with "genderfuck" as a solution that doesn't apply an assumption to her character that isn't backed up by the text and casting. If the viewer thinks word "fuck" is offensive (as a previous commenter once said) I maintain that that preserves the original intent of the song a lot better than using an outdated, confusing term that is now considered a slur.
@@lesmisloony That term didn't exist when Starmania was written and so it doesn't make sense to use it in the translation. Transvestite fits much better.
@@lesmisloony as a nb person who just found out about Starmania, thank you for the subtitles, and I agree with you that "genderfuck" fits so much better with Sadia's character
@@lesmisloony Thank you for that, as someone who has no personal reason to be affected I still found it a relief to see the sentiment translated to a non-slur. Also it makes more sense when she's listing off the various things she's fucking with.
Who was listening this wonderful rock-opera in 2023? 🥹
2022 -23-24 non stop 🤩🤩🤩
in 2024🥲
.. I was going to go to sleep... 2024..
2024😊
@@ВикторияСамарина-х3к 😍 idem 2024
C'est la version que j'ai connue en premier, 1988, qui passait sur la 5, ça sera toujours celle qui restera pour moi. Un chef d'œuvre immense.
This is the best version I have found even with the muted sound to Johnny's aria. Viewers need to make this go viral for our times now in 2023 all over the world. The actors/singers are wonderful here!
OMG, Yes. Trying, trying ❤❤❤
Starmania 2022 Here we go!
Cette pièce est juste magnifique, les chansons sont belles, l’histoire est touchante mais surtout: cela décrit littéralement ce qu’il se passe actuellement, c’est une pièce en avance sur son temps, il y a tout: les inégalités, le désarroi de la classe populaire amenant de la violence, la récupération politique de ce désarroi, terrorisme et excès sécuritaire, une classe politique toujours plus aveugle et violente, dépression et anxiété générale, mondialisation qui a rendu notre monde fade, critique du show business, place de l’homosexualité etc j’en passe et des meilleurs. C’est tellement touchant
Oui. Et le naziland n'est pas comme je le pensais à l'époque un simple parti, mais bien ce qui gouverne ce monde depuis si longtemps, sous couvert de "démocraties" et de belles devises, ce sont les marionnettistes qui sont derrière les pions politiues.
Merci à ma maman de m'avoir fait découvrir ce spectacle musical dotée de magnifiques et de pures voix sans artifices. J'avais 9 ans quand elle m'a fait écouter cette merveille, j'en ai 24 aujourd'hui et je ne m'en lasse toujours pas 🫠 les frissons et les émotions que je peux ressentir sont justes indescriptibles... Je ferai découvrir ce pur chef d'œuvre a mes enfants ça c'est sûr !
Ребята, я была на первом показе Стармании в Москве в 1989 г!! И ничего более великолепного из рок-опер мне не пришлось больше услышать!!!!! а лет прошло посчитайте сколько 🌟ЭТО ШЕДЕВР; ПРИКОСНИТЕСЬ К НЕМУ.
наслушаться невозможно ❣
Как вам повезло😮😮😊😊😊
Do you have any archives of this passage of the show in Russia ? (Photos or videos??) That would be great 😮✨
Однажды посмотрев это, не могу перестать этому удивляться и восхищаться😢😢😢😢😢 некоторые песни до слез😢😢😢😢😢 ❤❤❤❤❤❤
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90-е... я - подросток. У нас часто крутили Старманию на телеканале 2×2...
Влюбилась окончательно и бесповоротно! Ошеломительный звук, шоу, текст на французском и остаётся только догадываться, о чём спектакль. Но мне, 16-летней было совсем неважно! Полифония поглотила меня всю...
Была сдвоенная пластинка - 2 диска в одной обложке, заслушанная до дыр... И , к счастью, нашлись тогда турбонаушники, которые давали ощущение, что я в зале сижу...
Потом долго искала в интернете запись, и вот - я тут. Спасибо вам огромное за то, что выложили запись!!!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Процветания создателям этой рок-оперы и актёрам🌿
К сожалению, Мишель Берже умер в далеком 92 году, и английская версия так и не покорила Бродвей, как он мечтал. Но шедевр остался с нами на века. А актеры как-будто там и живут, только оболочки стареют отдельно.
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There are several versions of the show since its creation in 1979 !! I hope you like them 😊
Réjane Perry en serveuse automate est absolument hallucinante.
I just cannot believe how this musical became our reality I really LOVE the way it takes over the social problems such as injustice disadvantages badness gangsters the rich...
Well, having tried for several days, I have now managed to restore the sound missing in this copy. Although I have a little French, the subtitles are a great help. Thanks for your efforts in getting this copy onto TH-cam. Why it was screwed up, translated to English and called Tycoon I will never understand!
$$$$$
Tycoon was a great idea in theory. the problem is they picked the wrong person to translate the lyrics. like… why did Travesti (Transvestite) become You Get What You Deserve?
saw this two days ago in strasbourg! it was incredibly. i am a student studying in france but im from new york and have seen dozens of broadway shows. this show was INCREDIBLE by broadway standards too. never seen lighting like that. it was so good
Hell yeah! I study in nyc rn but I saw the show in paris last January and will see it again 3x this coming January. I can’t get enough of it!
C’est un spectacle qui me fait toujours vibrer, les mots des textes sont plus qu’actuels, infiniment touchants, on peut dire que l’auteur des chansons est un génie. Merci beaucoup pour nous avoir donné ces moments inoubliables.Si l’opéra de Starmania joue en quelque part, je me jure d’y aller.Merci mille fois.
UN ÉNORME MERCI POUR LA PUBLICATION, pour moi c un IMMENSE TOURNANT dans ma vie 😍😍😍😍
Encore merci
The Trio following La Reve de Stella at 1.43 is 💔💔💔 so so so powerful. The best. ✌🎶❤✨
Aw, yesss! I've been listening to Starmania for years without little else than the basic plot so it will be great to watch with subtitles.
Magnifique, j'adore même aujourdøhui en 2021 c'est toujours cool :)
Le casting est dingue, ils sont tous excellents.
`This is wow. I have been listening to 1 month non-stop. The best version - all are incredible. But Norman Groulx is just addictive. Come back to music, Norman!
Quel chef d’œuvre !! Meilleure version. De très loin !!
I saw this show Sept.1980 in Montréal.(Different cast except for Martine Saint-Clair, Crystal) I was 17. Well, I'm done. I can't work anymore today. I'm too shooked right now. This show back then was life changing for me.
My Canadian French teacher introduced this to us in high school...I was around the same age. Stella Spotlight has always spoken to me for some reason. I've heard Ronnie Spectors' version of Les Adieux...it doesn't have the same spark.
I was thrilled to visit the Place des Arts when I was in Montréal because I knew that Starmania had been performed there.
You are so lucky! I was able to find only a few photos and short video excerpts from that Starmania. And Maybe you remember how the show finished? What happened to Johnny, Cristal (obviously dies but how?), Marie-Jeanne, Stella, and Zero? Thank you in advance for your resposnse.
@@JBiggsofWSNC You are so lucky! I was able to find only a few photos and short video excerpts from that Starmania. And Maybe you remember how the show finished? What happened to Johnny, Cristal (obviously dies but how?), Marie-Jeanne, Stella, and Zero? Thank you in advance for your resposnse.
2024 ... J'ai vu la nouvelle version 2 fois et pourtant je ne peux pas m'empêcher de revenir au spectacle qui m'a fait découvrir l'univers Starmania 💖
this is an incredible show all the songs are touching your heart. tears down and thumbs up
touché au coeur, merci.
dommage pour "SOS d'un terrien en détresse" elle est tellement belle.
Heureusement qu'elle sont toutes belles.
Quand on sait que la serveuse automate Rejane Perry n'a eu que 48h pour apprendre son role, c'est juste fou.. Quelle talent cette femme!
Je ne savais pas ! Quelle est l'histoire de ce casting ? Elle a remplacé Maurane au pied levé ?
... Heuuu non ? C'était la doublure de Maurane de base , elle connaissait déjà son rôle 😂
@@Dr_ClementCe n'est pas exact 😂 Maurane a quitté la troupe car elle était en dépression, Réjane étant déjà sa doublure la tout naturellement remplacer
@@PixieDust18 Merci de l'info !
J'y étais... 1989, au Théatre du Marigny ! Cet Opéra rock a guidé ma vie, et l'a bousillée... Bref: morceau d'antologie.
Pourquoi l'a bousillée ? Trop d'émotions ?
La classe !! ;)
Pourquoi dis tu que cet opéra t’a bousillé la vie? Ta réponse m’intéresse car j’ai également été bouleversé par cet opéra quand j’avais 10 ans mais je n’avais jamais réalisé à quel point ça a pu impacter ma vie et ton commentaire me parle…
🎧🎧 Notre présent était déjà connu ! ! ! 😎😢
It's a classic of the classic, of the french music !!
MERCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII.....c est mon tous 1 er spectacle...gamine que j ai pue voir....a Charleville méziere....a peu pres ds ces années la....!!!MERCI
Tellement kiffant! Indémodable!
2024… je suis toujours aussi touchée par ce chef d’œuvre que je connais par cœur depuis mes 10 ans 🥹
Roger roger est vraiment excellent dans cette version
Gracias eternas por subir estooo!
HELLLLL YES thank you so much! I've watched it but it's hard to understand 100%
Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love Starmania!
I like this version of Johnny Rockfort`s interview so much! So beautiful and magic! Martine's voice is crystal!
She’s Crystal! I love how daring she is and challenging Johnny. ♥️Pity this part is not part of the track on the cd
Repeating for anyone who missed the video description:
SOS d'un terrien en détresse is getting the video blocked on youtube (the other songs are just "claimed") so I had to mute it. Maybe try playing someone else's unblocked SOS vid in the background during the muted portion? Here's one if it hasn't also been blocked by the time you watch this: th-cam.com/video/KdbOYvbru3c/w-d-xo.html
La traduction est tres bien faite. Bravo et merci de nous redonner Starmania, plus que jamais d'actualite. J'ai eu la chance de voir le spectacle en 1990 (Renaud Hantson chantait Johnny Rockfort et il etait excellent) et cela reste un de mes plus grands souvenirs. Soiree exceptionnelle et oeuvre immortelle! Merci de m'avoir donne l'opportunite de la revivre une fois de plus.
i have found a other channel who upload the same video, but no mute part for now. Hope it help
th-cam.com/video/8-_PE18xiMU/w-d-xo.html
Merci beaucoup pour le partage! Pour SOS d'un terrien en détresse: th-cam.com/video/fSK-xi4qmDw/w-d-xo.html
Passant à Panam, JJG m'avait invité à l'accompagner à l'Opéra-Rock Starmania... Rebuté lui-avais-je confié par le terme "Opéra" j'avais décliné mais comme il insistait en rigolant...!
...Encore merci, Grand Monsieur !
C'est dommage vous avez raté quelque chose 🙃
Bruh. I relate so much to that song from around the 20 minute mark (as I’m sure many do lol)
Thank you so much for sharing the video 🙂
1:41:53 the most beautiful and tragic scene. It made me cry.
La meilleure des versions👌👍👍👏👏
1. 2022-2024
2. 1979
3. 1988-1990
4. 1986
5. 1981
6. 1994-2001
Starmania 2024! Who is watching this magnificent rock opera?
chef d'oeuvre
Vraiment dommage que SOS d'UN Terrien En Détresse soit sans son :-(
Il est trouvable ailleurs sur youtube... ( Ici c'est sûrement une question de droit d'auteur)
(google translate:) Strange thing. This is one of the best performances of this song.
No song in the show is called " Strange thing " ?😅
@@PixieDust18 I meant the situation with the "s.o.s." song, the audio of which was cut out.
Amazing subtitle.
The french lyric are so much stronger than the English one.
Did you make the subtitle yourself ?
good job
I wonder if Tim Rice's lyrics were written in anticipation of a major rewrite of the show - they changed so much, apparently reassigning some songs to different characters, implying events that don't appear in the show, completely rewriting Banlieue Nord into a scathing commentary on the natures of the romances in the show... or if he just didn't understand the plot and made it up as he went along.
@@Seal0626 as far as I know song was not reafffect but "quand on arrive en ville" swap the order of the singing part between Johnny and Sadia
@@daviddupont517 it sounds like a direct response to Cristal's interview questions, especially the added element of "or else embrace the cause - we know you know we're right".
@@Seal0626 can you give me a timecode ? I don't recall that part
@@daviddupont517 I'm talking about the Tim Rice lyrics: th-cam.com/video/kMXJlfp3cLk/w-d-xo.html
There's 30 seconds of something random at the start of the video, but hopefully that link will take you to the right point.
As a french native speaker, regarding the subtitles provided for the first song of Nadia, I am quite shocked by the translation of "travesti" (transvestite) by the f*** word..I don't entirely agree with such translation but I am no expert.
Agreed, that reads like an automatic translation that wasn't proofchecked.
@@thear1s I would suggest it's an informed translation. It fits the character...
@@KenBreadbox It doesn't fit the rest of the performance. In French there's not a single vulgar word used any time, the worst one being "to ejaculate" in Stella's song.
@@thear1s A good point. If anybody did produce vulgarity, though, I would suggest it would be Sadia. Incidentally, I'm not a native speaker. I have a degree that says I'm fluent: it lies through its teeth.
How would you translate those phrases?
@@KenBreadbox I'm not fluent enough in English to choose the best word. "Travesti", "Transvestite" or "transdresser" would probably be the best fit but it wouldn't work today because the LGBTQ vocabulary has evolved in 40 years. If the song was written today, Sadia would probably use the word "Queer" or be a trans woman. It's my least favorite song of Starmania together with the song of Stella Spotlight.
zero janvier is literally donald trump.
I would have said not to insult Zéro but then I reached the line about making the world great again... 😂 Is that really actually literally the line in French or an inspired translation?
LadyDragonbane i think that it’s pretty accurate to the original text.
@@falimojk I don't know whether to say it's cool or kind of scary, but it's interesting. Thanks
LadyDragonbane starmania is prophetic in a lot of ways.
@@razanailan7967 Thanks for the translation/explanation and your thoughts on it. A slightly more poetic touch is closer to my first impression of him (don't ask whatever I based that on as I don't remember... 🤷♀️), but then I just as easily bought into the more current paraphrase. This thread is giving me a new appreciation for Zero
ностальгия, свобода, юность, телеканал 2х2
Le voyage de foin de Martine!
man, after listening to the 1979 recording, i am wondering why they removed like a third of the songs and a whole-ass character (le grand gourou marabout). the world of starmania used to be way darker…
Wait what??
@@axotank810In the first show (which is an adaptation of Starmania's first album in 1979) There were characters who disappeared over time... " Le gourou marabout" and " l'extra-terrestre " ( the 79 show also has unreleased songs that were never played again after)
Merci! Thank you! Réjane Perry est magnifique!
Excelente ópera rock.
01:35:45 S.O.S. 😔
on nes coute ça en classe ses super
Very intriguing Rock Opera. Is the character of Sadia really supposed to be a transvestite (as in a man dressed as a woman) or it it a metaphor?
And in the original version Ziggy states that he want to be a Rock dancer (and here a drummer?)
Yes she (he) is a transvestite but always played by a woman. And you are correct, in 1978, it was a rock dancer and in 88 they change it to rock drummer to showcase the drum solo
It seems they've changed this because the artist that plays Ziggy in this version is a great drummer. He got a prize at the conservatory for drum playing
Yes, actually Sadia was supposed to be played by a man. However, it was said in an interview they picked a woman who played a "strong woman" because that was the kind of vibe they wanted for Sadia. Men kept playing the character as a "weak man" during the casting. It became a tradition and a lot of people forgot Sadia is supposed to be a man.
@@FromChinatoyou That explains why the casting for the new production calls for either a male or female actor. I thought they were making changes to the character.
@@martinrapilly3679 exactly right ! That would be Renaud Hantson (th-cam.com/users/RenaudHantson), originally he is the founder, drummer, backsinger, and then singer of a french Heavy Metal band known as Satan Jokers. Here he played Ziggy, but for the last year of the show he played the main character Johnny Rockfort which was the one he actually wanted to play in the first place.
Amazingly prescient and beautiful show. And a big thank you for the high quality English translation with two small corrections. Why translate ‘travesti’ as ‘genderfuck’ instead of ‘transvestite’? And ‘Boulevard du Crépuscule’ refers to ´Sunset Boulevard’ not ‘twilight’. Le célèbre classique de Hollywood quoi! 😊
good catch re: Sunset Boulevard. I think I thought they were parodying it rather than referencing it directly, thus my translation.
As a (cis) lesbian, I consulted with a group of my queer Starmania fandom friends including people who are both trans and nb/gnc to come up with a translation for Sadia's use of the word "travesti" that 1. makes sense given what we know about Sadia's character and 2. isn't a literal slur. I'm very happy with "genderfuck" as a solution that doesn't apply an assumption to her character that isn't backed up by the text and casting. If the viewer thinks word "fuck" is offensive (as a previous commenter once said) I maintain that that preserves the original intent of the song a lot better than using an outdated, confusing term that is now considered a slur.
@@lesmisloony That term didn't exist when Starmania was written and so it doesn't make sense to use it in the translation. Transvestite fits much better.
@@lesmisloony as a nb person who just found out about Starmania, thank you for the subtitles, and I agree with you that "genderfuck" fits so much better with Sadia's character
@@lesmisloony Thank you for that, as someone who has no personal reason to be affected I still found it a relief to see the sentiment translated to a non-slur. Also it makes more sense when she's listing off the various things she's fucking with.
А почему именно на S.O.S. звук пропадает??? Что за вредительство?
It's a copyright issue so the full show isn't deleted !!
You would have to change so little of this to bring it up to date.
Oh gosh I saw this back in 1989 it beat action Jackson in the talk of St Germain xx
56:38 j'adore cette chanson
whats the name of the song Marie - Jeanne and Ziggy sang after monopoilis ?
1.50.30 all the names of songs
This isn't actually a song... It's the intro of Stella spotligh song
do you have a link to a version where sos isnt muted? much appreciated
For copyright reasons no... But the silenced excerpts can be found elsewhere on youtube
А где звук на самой лучшей песне???? SOS???
В описании написано, что эту песню блокирует TH-cam.
@@janel2030 какой-то непонятный и непредсказуемый ютуб: то блокирует, то сам открывает, лишь снимая монетизацию, то опять скрывает, то ещё что-то...
@@ХильдаФекси Денюжку до сих пор на этом зарабатывают владельцы копирайта
why is there no sound when she dies?? 😭
The sos theme is muted
Do you know where I can find the script of " Starmania"?
The script? You mean the lyrics ??
It isnt 1989 it has to be around 1985-6 cuz he died in the 1986s and balavoine is present as Johnny hardrock
1:15
It’s not balavoine
You are confusing 1979 ( the original show) and the red version of 88
j adore...qui joue le role de Johny R, parfois j ai le sentiment d y voir Balavoine?
Norman Groulx, qui a aussi une très belle voie en effet
Bonjour
Je passer pour un inculte mais qui es la personne qui joue le présentateur télé en mode Hip-hop ? Fou ce mec
*vais
1:11 Luc Lafitte ?
@@clemm9675 merci , visiblement c'est lui. Merci à toi .
@@oximoke9208 Oui je le trouve énorme Luc Lafitte dans son rôle de présentateur TV un peu robocop
Merci !
1:25:18 😢😢😢
brushes classes not ballet classes lol
he talks as a drummer so about the brushes (not drumsticks )
It is ballet classes thats what he meant
Звука нет, после 1'36min
a 1h 34 ....il est oooouuuuuuuu le son??????????????
bloqué par youtube à cause des droits d'auteur
Sos d'un terrien en detresse вырезана - без звука вообще
It's because of copyright!! The video would be deleted otherwise 😢
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5i lol
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