To be fair I have a power meter on my computer, and the electricity my computer uses is nothing compared to the rest of the house. Heating Oven Refrigitator is like 99% of the electric bill here.
I upgraded to the 5700X from a 3900X a few months ago. What a joy of a CPU. The low power consumption sold me on it. I know a lot of people couldn't care less, but for me, seeing my system power draw drop by 50w, while actually gaming faster, cooler and quieter, brings a smile. Update: Looking at the responses to my post, seems some people can't get over why anyone would swap a 12 core CPU for 8 Core. I've personally regretted buying a 12 core CPU. When you use a PC for hi res single player games, no competitive MP, no 1080p, no productivity software, the only thing 12 cores get you is heat and noise, and lowering heat and noise is a priority for me. Now my games run 15% faster, 20 degrees cooler, 10 dB quieter and use up less electricity. And when the time comes to upgrade again, unless there's a real advantage for 12 cores in the way I use the system, I'll go, once again, for the lowest power draw 8 core CPU that gets the job done.
That is not an upgrade it’s a side grade. You literally went from 12 cores and 24 threads to 8 cores and 16 threads. That makes no sense at all. If you needed just better gaming performance than the 5800x3d would have made alot more sense or a 5950x at least.
The Ryzen 7 5700X is an excellent sleeper beast CPU. I had to grab one when they dropped below 200 bucks. I even snagged a Ryzen 5 5600 when around 100 bucks. I'm glad I waited and these puppies basically transformed my old Zen/Zen+ Pc's into new. Simple drop in upgrade bliss. The 5700X is amazing value especially if on existing AMD platform. Thanks Brian for the video!
I'm a software developer. I've only used laptop for work. My laptop has a Ryzen 5 5600H. I've been thinking about building a PC for programming, graphic design, and gaming. Is the Ryzen 7 5700X good? I thought about buying the 5800X. But I've been hearing that the 5700X is more power efficient.
@@arunk2710 Since you gave me some info on your work flow/Gaming usage, I would skip the 7 series and go with 12 cores and 24 threads? The Ryzen 9 5900x is reasonably priced and A perfect use case for you. As for the temps you can use PBO+Curve to reduced thermals without requiring exotic cooling. (Decent Air cooler) I have the same 105 watt Ryzen 7 5800X using that power/heat reducing UEFI/Bios feature on an air cooler. Good luck on your build! Peace!
Mine just came in yesterday as an upgrade from my 3600. Mainly wanted it in order to get the most out of my AM4 board while not spending too much and keeping my old cooler, very satisfied with the upgrade so far.
I was in the same boat! Had a 3600x and upgraded to the 5700x in November. Its a great 8 core cpu especially for the price. The power usage is great and isnt hard to keep cool. I instantly noticed better frames when I upgraded. The 5700x will hold us over on AM4 for a little while longer with no problems
Upgraded from a 1700 since release to this 5700x. It's pretty nuts how much value I got out of this platform. A nearly 6 year old b350 mobo that's about to turn into a home lab.
I'm pairing one with a MSi Meg Unify x570, Corsair Dom Plats 32Gb (4×8) MSI 3070Ti, Corsair iCue H100i Elite ,Corsair HX 850 Corsair PSU, in a Corsair 4000D Airflow. Im going for the black on black "Murdered out" look with red lights on the Plats, and fans. I go to Micro Center Houston on Saturday to pick it all up. I've been saving 2 years for this.
Great review. I built my rig based on the rizen 5700g/b550 Christmas 2021 at £259. I'm so glad I did. It's allowed me to play games albeit at 1080p res on my 1440p monitor at very reasonable fps. When I eventually get a 1440p GPU for a decent price hopefully before summer. The PCI express being only 3x won't make much difference. Maybe TYC should review the 8core 5700g. Very low tdp & bundled with amd cooler. Plus it's even cheaper now at £170
I have the 5700x on my newly built pc paired with some gen4 m.2 ssd and boy must I say, coming from a 4th gen intel i5, the transition was mind blowing! truly a feelsgood man moment... But since the budget was short, I had to temporarily pair it with a GT 710 just so I can actually use it. Fortunately, paycheck's coming in again soon and I'm looking to get a 6700xt to pair it with and I can't freaking wait!!
What GPU? I'm currently on a 3600 at 4.4Ghz with a 6700xt and was tempted to try the 5700x but most benchmarks I've seen with 6700xt the FPS are basically the same between both CPU's.
@@dtrain8335 not worth it for u unless u play a specific competitive game that is CPU bound and u need that extra power, but for most games it is not worth it
I just picked up the 5700x for $265AUD to replace my 3600. I was contemplating either the 5800x3d or 5900x but they were double the price of the 5700x and for a mixed use family gaming and work computer the performance increase just didn't scream double. The notional saving can either go towards cost of living (I feel like a pelican - no matter where I look there's always an enormous bill right in front of my face) or towards replacing my 1660 Super for something that will run 1080p ultra at 100+ fps for a couple of years.
@@FarissimoID i had a 3600x and upgraded to the 5700x a few months ago. I noticed better 1% lows and better average frames. I personally think its a worthy upgrade over the 3600/3600x
AM4 Socket is legendary! I just updated 3x gaming PCs using 5600(x) and my main work PC with 5700g from 3200g and I can see 5yrs use out of them. I love this platform. 5700x is fast becoming a great alternative to a 5600x now that prices are plummeting!
I've been on the fence about getting a 5700x since I've been slightly bottlenecking with my 3600 and 3060ti. This video has influenced my decision for sure. The gaming and productivity perf increase seems good plus I already have an Arctic freezer cooler. Thank you!
i'm same specs as you, 3600 and 3060ti and i'm bottlenecked a bit in phantom liberty cpu goes 80+% usage in big city areas and i'm dropping fps from 60 to as low as 40-45. considering to get one for BF if they give some good offers (i've been tempted to go AM5 and 7700x but maybe i can breathe some more life if i swap just cpu)
Got my 5700x for 200 bucks and will be pairing with a 3070 for about 430 bucks for my first build. I hope it goes well, after so much research I think I've made some great purchases thus far! Appreciate the video, thank you
I have a ryzen 5 5600 - idle temp is 40c, never goes down to 39c, and at full load, hitting 62c now i changed it to ryzen 7 5700x - idle temp is 34c and max around 58c Those two processors of mine running at a stock speed never overclock. I love the power efficiency of this chip, and it partners with my rtx 4070 ti love it!
Great recommendation and I can vouch for the results. Updated from a R5-3600 to the 5700X almost a year ago. Did the undervolt/curve optimizer/PBO2 thing right away and it's been rock solid, quiet, clocks at about 4.85 Ghz while heavy gaming and is currently sipping 30W of power while YouTubing with a mild BOINC distributed computing project running in the background. Paired it with the Arctic Freezer A35 cooler which was on sale at time of purchase - almost like it was ordained or something. Having no problems OCing the RAM to 3800/CL16 either so the memory controller is superb as well. I was intending for it to be a bit of a placeholder until 5800X3D came down in price (it was more than the 5900X!) but I bumped my res up to UW1440p and plan on moving up to UW1600p at some point so it makes little sense to do so now. Pretty happy with it.
I just built a system with the Ryzen 5 3600 and paired it with a. Powercolor rx 6800 Red Dragon GPU in April 2024 for a person with limited funds. It runs every game they throw at it in 1440p and they couldn't be happier.
Have a friend that got a deal on a fairly new 4080 for 800. He had an x570 mobo and ive been helping him make a build to replace his prebuilt. I wasnt able to convince him to get the 5800x3d to pair it with his card, but he did agree to the 5700x. Looked up some benches and its not terrible. He'll still get top end performance especially since he is a 4k gamer. There is gonna be 10%+/- bottleneck in newer titles. But not enough to ruin the experiance. I guess when he eventually has problems ill trade him an x3d chip and use his 5700x to upgrade my sister's 3950x.
totally agree with you on the power draw aspect ! retired my Haswell Xeon this summer. Orginially wanted to get an AM5 at launch but the prices turned be down despite having the money. Instead bought a used 5800x for 170€. Added a 550m steel series new and 2x32GB (needed for work) 3200HZ. Costed me just 500€. Personally i run this CPU at a fixed 1.08V and 4.0GHz, whichs safes 30-50% Watts in office workload and gaming, while only sacrificing 20% single-core boost and 10% multicore. On top so much less heat and noise
How about dont fix ur cpu at 4.0 ghz and just use curve optimizer, 5-10% loss in multicore perf, similar or even better single core speed (faster gaming) and much lower temps.
@@grlmgor i get to 4.4 @ 1.15v gaming stable and cinebench stable. temps are cool. but it will crash in prime small fft. also i noticed if using PBO, it clocks down to 4.2 GHz at 1.2V in prime small fft, while it runs cinebench at 4.5. and its not becuase of the temps. As my 1080TI starts to struggle in 1440p anyways and i run my 144HZ display at 120Hz and cap FPS there, i decided to just go with 4GHz on the CPU with minimal power draw is your 4.6GHz prime stable small fft?
@@evilleader1991 i dont like the CPU boosting for really small workloads like microsoft teams doing whatever it does and requests CPU resources. With tiny workloads, like playing a 2D indie game + waching netflix, the CPU uses like 20Watts more with PBO even with curve optimizer. And due to home office my PC runs aroudn 16h / day, so 20W more or less does add up
@@nevernicemeadow It crash in prime small fft as soon as it started. I turn PBO off as I locked it in at 4.6 because my worst cores start to struggle above that. Out of the box my 5800x was boosting to 5.85Ghz as I have a 280mm AIO.
Coming from a ryzen 5 2600 on the same B450 motherboard I bought back on 2018, I can say this is one of the best upgrades I did. It is an amazing cpu! and for 190 is a steal!
won an auction and paid 124 gpb for this cpu, but it had few bended pins and lucky me again, I'm a master of fixing bended pins, no problem at all after fixing it, my build: 5700x, msi mpg b550i, 32gb 3733mhz ram and palit 3090, all in a fractal design ridge itx case.
So i just purchased this (2 days ago) and put in a cheap MSI b450 (ProM2 v2), the only issue was that with the stock AMD stealth cooler teperatures were around 60 and when used in novabench or heavy workloads 80-90 degress. I installed the Noctua-NHU12S Redux and now the temp always stays around 50-60, and remains around 61-62 at max workloads. Beautiful upgrade under for under $200, jsut watch the temperatures please!
I have the same cooler paired with my 5700x! And i get the same temps as you. I originally used my previous 3600x’s wraith spire on the 5700x for a couple weeks. While it wasnt horrible, the fan noise alone was annoying, so going with the noctua cooler was a worthy upgrade
I recently switched to a 5700 X and its great for gaming, al of my games feel smoother so a improvement in frame time consistency and most importantly a higher frame rate on Minecraft. I tend to hit a GPU bottle neck now rather than a CPU bottle neck while gaming. Running an RTX 2070 for reference. Also I noticed an noticeable improvement in load time in one of my games.
I have gone from a Ryzen 7 2700 to the 5700x. What an amazing upgrade. I do video editing (I don't use Adobe for anything) and it is absolutely amazing. It is paired with an RX6700 XT 12GB.
I was gonna spend the extra and get a 5800X3D to upgrade from my 3600 just to have the best of the generation, but the extra $100+ just doesn't seem worth it. Probably gonna go with the 5700X and tune it.
I got myself 5700G few months back for about the same money. I did that because if I decide to sell GPU and swap for something better, I still will have APU to play my games without leaving me stranded. It's trade-off in cache department, but I think well worth it.
Nothing wrong with that! Because you never know when you need those integrated graphics and dont want to be left stranded. Luckily all AM5 cpus have integrated graphics for down the road when you upgrade
I have the 5700G now in use for over one year. The integrated graphics are shit for gaming and only worth for display. But are way better than the UHD 630 on my SFF Dell. The UHD 630 gives about 12 fps and the 5700G gives about 26 fps while the GT 1030 gives 40 fps to 50 fps. I was torn as well to buy the 5700G for my first build now but I went with the 5900X for more cache and cores. The 5700G is loaded to 50+ % on task manager on games meaning games already use all 8 cores passing in the realm of thread use. So 8 cores are already obsolete in reality. The 5950X would be an overall better CPU but with 460$ it is to expensive. I got my 5900X as well for overpriced at 336$. AM6 and the 8000 series Ryzen will have 200 cores as I hear. That makes any 7950X3D immediately obsolete. Even Windows uses allmost all cores of an 2012 cuad core 740QM i7 CPU I am using now. I get lags when loading 6 tabs on Edge due to the processor being 100% loaded with the WiFi data. An 8 cores will be barely enough for running Windows 11 snappy in the future. Even the 5700G starts to feel a bit sluggish by now and that is an 8 core 16 thread high end CPU. Under 12 core CPU's are a no go today best is to go for the 5950X or any other 16 core 32 thread. Even that is already obsolete, sort of, when Ryzen 8000 shows up soon. Endless money pit, if you ask me. This 5900X is my first and last built due to expensive constant spending on out of the box obsolete hardware already.
As the owner of a 5950X tested both in and out of Game Mode, SMT on and off, and Eco Mode on and off, I have the next best thing to personal experience that the 5700X is a great CPU. Hardware Unboxed found this CPU to be faster than the Core-i5 13400. I find that my 5950X plays all my games extremely well most of the time, with the usual exceptions: adequate Cities Skylines performance is unobtainable, The Just Cause games stutter when you drive around quickly on the ground, particularly Just Cause 3, and GemCraft is capped at 30 FPS anyway. For more average games, Surviving Mars, Need for Speed: Heat, NFS Unbound, Forza Horizon 4/5... I'm GPU-bound with a fairly stable 90 FPS or higher, and I rate performance as functionally perfect. You don't need more CPU performance than this for gaming, outside of specialized scenarios, and $200 or less is a good price for this class of CPU. If you're thinking of getting a better CPU than this, you should either be upgrading an existing AM4 system, looking to build a cheap workstation with a Core-i5 13500 or 13600K, or you should be looking at AM5.
Just got one of these for $275 aud. couldn't be happier with it. took out my 2700x after simple bios update. running it with pbo enabled and curve optimiser all core -10. absolutely flys in gaming.
I went with an under-volted Ryzen 5700x for my "TradeBot" PC, automated trading of the futures market. Runs cool all week, non-stop from Sunday evening to Friday afternoon.
I'm sticking with my AM4 system for another year or two as I got my 5800X 3D for a really good price brand new and it's doing everything I throw at it with ease. I wouldn't mind getting a 5700X for a budget build for anyone in my family that may want one as B450 and B550 motherboards are still in good supply at a low price.
Why you do upgrade to AM5 make sure you have a good cooler. I built a 7600x SFF built for my sisters friend. And while the 5600x can get you similar performance to an 5800. The 7600x is also hot as hell. So it would thermal throttle. With Ryzen 7000 x versions you need an NH-D15 or better for air cooling. That's one lesson I learned the hard way.
Thank you, this has been really helpful mate. I went out and got a 2nd hand 3070 today, only to take it home and find myself with WORSE fps than my previous GPU (RX580, 2017). Pairing the 4070 with my current cpu R5 2600x (2018) is BOTTLENECK CITY. After checking a bottleneck calculator, the 5700x is right in the sweet spot of value yet still pretty beefy! Peace
Adding ultrawide comparisions would be a great for cpu/gpu, there are not much ultrawide tests happening on youtube. I love your content, chart colors can use more contrast :) Awesome work
Given the inflated gpu pricing, By the time I am getting a 4090 equivalent performing card, I am likely looking at something like an am6 platform, so a 5700x is a very good value.
You can shoot lower. You can get a $120 5500 which is in all cases faster than 3600, not always but sometimes closing in on 5600 and it's a ton of fun since it takes PBO spectacularly well. You can get a b450 board to go with it for $60 and RAM isn't gonna break the bank either. AM4 is a dead end platform anyway, you shouldn't be pumping too much money into it, depends individually how much is too much. I don't think we expect DDR6 and thus AM6 in foreseeable future. DDR4 has been with us for nearly a decade now that it's getting phased out.
@@SianaGearz , what makes you think it’s only called am5/4 because uses ddr5/4? I know it’s a dead end platform, but so is am5 eventually, the difference is I know exactly what I would be getting for the price and the trade off of gaming performance in the long term is accounted for with the aforementioned 4090. It’s not bad to necessarily Save the money now and use it on a new platform later. Either ways if you are considering am4, you are not justifying am5. I can by a budget gpu, mobo, ram, decent cpu, and powder are psu for less than the motherboard and lowest level cpu for am5. Spending money on a 5500 is bad advice either way. You would be much better of with a 5600 or 5700x for the extra $.
@@robertt9342 5600 is a much much better processor but it depends on pricing trend and regional pricing. At the moment i bought the 5500 myself 5600 would have cost me 70€ extra or 50% extra. If you can get it within $25 extra it becomes a no-brainer. Similar consideration applies to of course any higher step up from that. Socket naming has been a tradition for mainstream sockets. AM2 runs on DDR2 AM2+ runs on DDR2 or DDR3 and is a backwards and forwards compatible bridge spec. AM3 runs on DDR3 AM4 runs on DDR4 AM5 runs on DDR5 Every time a new memory spec comes along, of course the socket needs to be redesigned because the processor is the memory controller. Intel has been able to slipstream these adjustments into their every-two-families new CPU socket. AMD pushes the changes back for a while. There are some exceptions. FM1, FM2 and AM1 were short-lived DDR3 compatible sockets with video feature or SoC connectivity, ones lacking FSB (HyperTransport). AM4 is similar to these, being an SoC socket but with DDR4. I think it's a fair guess that if an AM5 successor comes before DDR6, it's likely to have a different name than AM6. Within a given socket, also an incompatibility could be introduced at the chipset or BIOS level, like if that socket lives for 7 or 10 years, it may turn out impossible for the earliest boards to support last CPUs coming out for it.
With electricity prices being so high, my shopping style has switched from 'bang per buck' to 'bang per watt' so I love when you focus on power consumption. Great video!
Had a 3600x paired with a 3080 at 1440p and some games had bad frame drops. Upgraded to a 5700x and instantly noticed better %1 lows and better average frames. All while being cheaper than what i bought the 3600x two years ago. Also the low power usage and cool temps is great!
The low power consumption and temps made it great for my itx pc build. I have a 3080 ftw3 ultra and a 5700x In a dan a4 h20 and a 240mm aio. Neither of the components go above 65 degrees
Yeah but AM4 is a dead platform it’s hard to recommend it over Intel for those on a budget. Intel is killing it right now with their price to performance
@@dennisp8520 eh as long as your pc is faster than current gen consoles you'll be just fine and the 5000 series ryzen is faster than the consoles out today, the cpu in current gen consoles is between a 2700x and a 3700x performance wise.
Howdy. I have this phenomenal CPU with a GAMMA400V2 air cooler which cost $20, it keeps the CPU at 77c on full stress test 100% across 8 cores. Curve-optimized these run at the full max boost 4650MHz on all 8 cores under load. Just beautiful. Upgraded from Ryzen 1700 meaning I will be on this PC/platform for probably 8-10 years.
I went for the 5700x as a drop in upgrade for my 2700x on an X470. Have it paired up with a 3060ti I got on Black Friday to replace my GTX 1070. With curve optimizer I dropped all cores to a -15 offset and a 200mhz auto OC. Basically it’s a 5800x for a bit of a discount. Runs at 4.2 all core, 4.85 single core. On a side note I could also finally run my ram at 3600mhz. The 2700x could never get past 3400mhz.
@@christiaandekock1136 I have a Scythe Myugen RevB cooler on it. Max around 72-75C but usually hang in the mid 60s if gaming. 80C is absolutely fine by the way. As long as you not up in the 90’s.
You can use ryzen master to find out the Curve optimization per core. It should take around an hour, and you don’t have to do anything. The software figures out the values for you. Also playing around with PPT, TDC, and EDC if you want the lower temp (decrease these values) or the higher all-core boost (increase these values).
@@nhozdien5058 yeah I used ryzen master when i got the cpu. Not entirely sure if i applied what it did but performace definitely increased afterwards. Scored around 15000+ on r23. I have a hyper 212 on atm - just dropped it on after upgrading. Want to maybe go AIO for peace of mind haha
The 5600 or 5600X (virtually identical) needed to be in these benchmarks, because it is well known that they perform about the same as the 5700X and 5800X in most games, and they are both significantly cheaper. People need to know whether (and to what extent) the performance advantages are of having two more cores, and for which games it makes a difference.
I would guess that a 5700X is starting to make more sense for a gaming PC now, especially because the only upgrade option you have for gaming on an AM4 board is to go up to the rather expensive 5800X3D, so, given that a lot of people will probably want to try to make their Zen 3 cpu last a bit longer on this platform (because there are no more advanced architecture cpus available for Zen 4), having 8-cores might matter a bit more for "future proofing" to some extent. Also, some games do seem to run better on an 8-core Zen 3 CPU vs. a 6-core Zen 3 CPU. Still, as far as I can tell, most games run about the same on 6-core Zen 3 CPUs, and the games which do run better on an 8-core are not likely to see a meaningful difference with a more mid-ranged GPU, and even with a high-end GPU, the performance difference is not likely to be that big (not nearly as big as the difference in the number of cores).
October 2024 and im using my (first ever self-build) Pc with 7 5700x paired with a rx6800 Still runs games at 1440p smoothly and handles video editing good as well
I used this chip in my daughter’s first gaming rig. Only used Intel up to that point and so had no idea what to expect. What a beast it has turned out to be. It’s proven to be so good that it convinced me to go AMD for my own rig I recently built.
Just bought a 5700x for $115 locally and sold off a 5600 for $100. It’s in my 2nd Media PC in the master bedroom. Paired with a 6700xt, x570s, 32gb 3200mhz c16 dual rank, 980pro 1tb boot , sn770 2tb game storage. Great well rounded bedroom pc.
i built 6 rigs (my own upgrade and some for my siblings and cousins), all went AM4, got 1x 5600x, 1x 5700x and 5800x (same price as 5600x brand new), 1x 5800x3d, 1x 12490f. Most of these i got 30-35% below retail in my country, sometimes by importing
Great video. Good to see some of the other options open on AM4. I just built my first AMD system in years around a free Ryzen 5 1600 AF. Got the CPU free for trade for an i5 8400 of all things. I think I will be quite happy with my current setup for awhile but it is always good to know what other options are out there.
I upgraded yesterday from 2700x to 5700x but it needed some tweaking when using PBO on B450 tomahawk max ii (Latest BIOS) with GSkill Ripjaws V 2x8gb cl16 3200mhz DDR4 + Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo and once you configure your PBO Limits PPT TDC EDC and the extra 200mhz single core boost clock with Curve Optimizer around -25 for me for all cores for now... it gets real faster on clockspeeds better power thermals and also better scores in CB R23.
These CPUs at 8 cores 16 threads 36mb of cache on am4 board are killer cpus. AM4 platform is stable and the pricing is good for the components. if done with gpu 2020 and above with 8gb your set for awhile.
Picked up a 5700x for $300AUD a couple months back, not even a week later it went on sale for $200AUD which peeved me off a bit but still super happy with the chip, much snappier than the i7-3770 in there previously
I am happy that my Ryzen 5 3600 is still doing well. Hes the new low budget king in Germany right now. I got a R5 3600 plus a MSI A520 MB for 70€ for a friend. Thats pretty good value for the money
I bought this CPU with a midrange GPU, an RX6700(non-XT). Haven’t been disappointed. Threw on a Noctua U12S Redux. Goes up to 65c under full cinebench load. Probably could just go with a Wraith cooler, but I wanted some headroom to see what kind of overclocking it does. Then I realized I haven’t overclocked a CPU since a Phenom II and it seems to have gotten way more involved than just raising the multiplier and voltage :(
I'm planning to upgrade to a RX 6900 XT soon, with a plan to upgrade my CPU sometime later in the year. Right now, I'm running a Ryzen 7 3800X, hopefully, I'll be able to get a decent price on the 5800X3D at some point in the near future.
At MicroCenter I5 12600K 199$, I5 13600K 249$, 5800x3d 299$, I7 13700K 329$. I don’t know how 5700X can compete with this CPU in these price brackets. I understand many people don’t live close to MicroCenter or different countries have different price structures. But for me or someone within a reasonable distance from MicroCenter 5700X doesn’t make any sense. To make things worse for 5700X in New Jersey electronics tax it’s only 3.6%. Using MicroCenter credit card I get 5% of instant saving on purchases over 200$ I get those parts under their listed price. For me 5700X should be 140$ or less to even consider it. Great. video by the way Brian. Love your content.❤
I have used Intel cpu's my entire life, but the 5700x seems a really compiling choice. The only thing about picking the 5700x over the 13500 or 7700 is you lose out on the new latest motherboard tech. However, I'm going with the 5700x and a B550 Strix board for my next build. Thanks for the info, great timing for me.
@@mikem9536 Hi Mike, also a good choice. I went with the 5700x (mostly due to some curiosity about Ryzen chips). I also wanted an 8-core chip. On Newegg, I got my cpu, motherboard, and ram for under $500. Plus, a free game, that I will play. Not a bad deal. If I ever want to upgrade on this platform, I could drop in a 5800x3d chip for a performance bump.
I've been running the same motherboard and ram since 2019 (asrock x570 + 3200mhz RAM) went from a 3600 to 5800x then 5800X3D..sold the 3600 for the price I paid and sold my 250 5800x for 210 and got a 5800x3D with uncharted for £330!!
Great video. Even in Canada, the CPU is under $250. One thing I'd like to see is a discussion on dependable Aliexpress sellers - sellers that you have found good to buy from. Cheers.
Hey long time viewer first time commenter here. Love the content. Excellent points about the value the AM4 platform still has in it. However I would caution that if it's for a system you'd like to last 5 years buy a spare MOBO and/or have a good warranty and back-up plan in case of MOBO failure. Tech TH-camrs focus on forward compatibility but what if your MOBO dies just out of warranty and because it's an older platform you have to pay a premium to get a working MOBO back? I would love to see someone say "at least if your mobo dies in 3 years there'll still be availability of compatible MOBOs readily available. I had a customer spend close to $800 AUD for me to fix their PC under these circumstances and it took me a week to find an ebay MOBO that would replace the failed one (after a TON of testing to rule out all the other components I could with parts on hand). I hate having to pay scalper price for 3 - 5 year old motherboard. Said customer spent $3k AUD on system to begin with and was perfectly happy with it until the MOBO died so it was worth it to them to spend $800 on me for parts and labour to just get it back to how it was! DDR4 RAM will go up in price as it becomes more uncommon in the next few years as will legacy MOBOs for even AM4 that AMD did a stellar job of supporting as long as it did...
The 5700X is my first Ryzen CPU. Combined with used X570 and even used 3070. Cooled with my good beautiful old Zalman CNPS 9900 Max. This AMD is cool&quiet for real. And fast as hell!! Best choice for 200€ !!
I built a 5700X system, using an on-hand 2070 Super, after Black Friday. Great build that meets just about anyone's production, office, and gaming needs. The CPU was on sale for $219 US then, so it's an even better bargain now.
This is a fantastic CPU, like many have said before it's what the 5800X should have been. If I didin't end up getting the 5900X last year and then the 5800X3D I would have no doubt grabbed myself one of these!!😎
Nice review! I got a bunch of new parts back in August and the lower power draw of the 5700x (and price lol) compared to the 5800x and -x3D really sealed the deal. I chose to stay on air with a DeepCool AK400(I couldn't find where to actually buy the AM4 bracket for my trusty Hyper 212 EVO) and it stays nice and cool. Quite the uplift over my i7 3770, to put it mildly lol
Got 2 of these babies in 2 systems with RX 6700XTs, it consumes nothing, runs cool and does everything from work to Cyberpunk or Anno 1800 (both CPU taxing) with ease, got them from Aliexpress for 180ish for each CPU.
The older ryzens appears to have been marked down end of Jan. The 5700G (one with integrated GPU) was 10$ less than you got the x for, adn the 5600g I saw for $110usd on amazon. Crazy good price for what you're getting, cant hardly find a motherboard for cheaper than the cpu!
@@maggi98mw I had no idea, thought they was just a lower clocked version. No matter, not like im' going to pair it with a very high end gpu, should be fine lol. Still a nobrainer for dang near low budget pc (in my case upgrading 2nd pc).
Thing is for AM4 you can get a cheap mainboard. I paid 57€ shipped for my b450m msi pro vdh max which isn't terrible, I can PBO to like 100W sustained and the mainboard stays cool is barely even stressed. You could do a lot worse than that. The seller was super nice and updated the BIOS for me too at no extra cost, but I really should tip him someday.
This focus on value and power consumption is extremely refreshing and 'real world', far more relevant than just about every other tech review channel.
@@14psk The 4090 is used for benchmarking.
To be fair I have a power meter on my computer, and the electricity my computer uses is nothing compared to the rest of the house. Heating Oven Refrigitator is like 99% of the electric bill here.
I upgraded to the 5700X from a 3900X a few months ago. What a joy of a CPU. The low power consumption sold me on it. I know a lot of people couldn't care less, but for me, seeing my system power draw drop by 50w, while actually gaming faster, cooler and quieter, brings a smile. Update: Looking at the responses to my post, seems some people can't get over why anyone would swap a 12 core CPU for 8 Core. I've personally regretted buying a 12 core CPU. When you use a PC for hi res single player games, no competitive MP, no 1080p, no productivity software, the only thing 12 cores get you is heat and noise, and lowering heat and noise is a priority for me. Now my games run 15% faster, 20 degrees cooler, 10 dB quieter and use up less electricity. And when the time comes to upgrade again, unless there's a real advantage for 12 cores in the way I use the system, I'll go, once again, for the lowest power draw 8 core CPU that gets the job done.
Do you think its worth. Im using 3900x but I use it for rendering and stuff
@@timodeurbroeck9957 Can't say. I only game with it.
Same here!
That is not an upgrade it’s a side grade. You literally went from 12 cores and 24 threads to 8 cores and 16 threads. That makes no sense at all. If you needed just better gaming performance than the 5800x3d would have made alot more sense or a 5950x at least.
@@timodeurbroeck9957 No he made a bad decision. If you have a 3900x upgrade to a 5950x for an increase in cores or just go for the 5800x3d at least.
The Ryzen 7 5700X is an excellent sleeper beast CPU. I had to grab one when they dropped below 200 bucks. I even snagged a Ryzen 5 5600 when around 100 bucks. I'm glad I waited and these puppies basically transformed my old Zen/Zen+ Pc's into new. Simple drop in upgrade bliss. The 5700X is amazing value especially if on existing AMD platform. Thanks Brian for the video!
I'm a software developer. I've only used laptop for work. My laptop has a Ryzen 5 5600H.
I've been thinking about building a PC for programming, graphic design, and gaming.
Is the Ryzen 7 5700X good?
I thought about buying the 5800X. But I've been hearing that the 5700X is more power efficient.
@@arunk2710 Since you gave me some info on your work flow/Gaming usage, I would skip the 7 series and go with 12 cores and 24 threads? The Ryzen 9 5900x is reasonably priced and A perfect use case for you. As for the temps you can use PBO+Curve to reduced thermals without requiring exotic cooling. (Decent Air cooler) I have the same 105 watt Ryzen 7 5800X using that power/heat reducing UEFI/Bios feature on an air cooler. Good luck on your build! Peace!
Mine just came in yesterday as an upgrade from my 3600. Mainly wanted it in order to get the most out of my AM4 board while not spending too much and keeping my old cooler, very satisfied with the upgrade so far.
I was in the same boat! Had a 3600x and upgraded to the 5700x in November. Its a great 8 core cpu especially for the price. The power usage is great and isnt hard to keep cool. I instantly noticed better frames when I upgraded. The 5700x will hold us over on AM4 for a little while longer with no problems
I upgraded from a 3600x to the 5700x. You're going to be so freaking happy 😁
Upgraded from a 1700 since release to this 5700x. It's pretty nuts how much value I got out of this platform. A nearly 6 year old b350 mobo that's about to turn into a home lab.
@@aFutureSelf yeah AM4 is gonna go down in the history books! Great platform! I hope AM5 matches the longevity
Your old cooler will most likely still be compatible with AM5 boards too
Upgraded from the 1700 to the 5700x :)
So happy to have chosen AM4 because they support it so long 👍
I'm pairing one with a MSi Meg Unify x570, Corsair Dom Plats 32Gb (4×8) MSI 3070Ti, Corsair iCue H100i Elite ,Corsair HX 850 Corsair PSU, in a Corsair 4000D Airflow.
Im going for the black on black "Murdered out" look with red lights on the Plats, and fans.
I go to Micro Center Houston on Saturday to pick it all up. I've been saving 2 years for this.
I love that you included cpus from other generation and their competitor too ! Great benchmarks Bryan ! 👍
Great review. I built my rig based on the rizen 5700g/b550 Christmas 2021 at £259. I'm so glad I did. It's allowed me to play games albeit at 1080p res on my 1440p monitor at very reasonable fps. When I eventually get a 1440p GPU for a decent price hopefully before summer. The PCI express being only 3x won't make much difference. Maybe TYC should review the 8core 5700g. Very low tdp & bundled with amd cooler. Plus it's even cheaper now at £170
The PCI is gen 3 not 3x, think it supports 24x total or something
5700g is really slow, not a good gpu honestly. Overclock that and a 9900k an the 9900k runs laps around it. And it’s old
Bought a PC with a 5700g and a Nvidia 3060 for 1080p gaming last year and it runs everything very good including Cyberpunk and Warhammer 3.
5700G is fine when only used with the integrated graphics, but I wouldn't pair it with a high end GPU, it would be a bottle neck
Did you mean to say "Albeit" ?
I have the 5700x on my newly built pc paired with some gen4 m.2 ssd and boy must I say, coming from a 4th gen intel i5, the transition was mind blowing! truly a feelsgood man moment... But since the budget was short, I had to temporarily pair it with a GT 710 just so I can actually use it. Fortunately, paycheck's coming in again soon and I'm looking to get a 6700xt to pair it with and I can't freaking wait!!
I upgraded my old 3600 to a 5700x and i am loving it. Much better temps, lower voltages and nice frames in games.
What GPU? I'm currently on a 3600 at 4.4Ghz with a 6700xt and was tempted to try the 5700x but most benchmarks I've seen with 6700xt the FPS are basically the same between both CPU's.
@@dtrain8335 i am using a 5600xt. My system in general feels smoother and playing demanding games like Cyberpunk is more stable for real
@@dtrain8335 not worth it for u unless u play a specific competitive game that is CPU bound and u need that extra power, but for most games it is not worth it
@@blayde4577 I just bought a new graphics card, running it with a 3600 it is CPU bound, hoping the 5700x helps
@@blayde4577 It is worth it if you want smoother gameplay
I just picked up the 5700x for $265AUD to replace my 3600. I was contemplating either the 5800x3d or 5900x but they were double the price of the 5700x and for a mixed use family gaming and work computer the performance increase just didn't scream double. The notional saving can either go towards cost of living (I feel like a pelican - no matter where I look there's always an enormous bill right in front of my face) or towards replacing my 1660 Super for something that will run 1080p ultra at 100+ fps for a couple of years.
How is the performance uplift mate? I'm thinking about it, have been eyeing for the 5700x for a week now.
My advice 3070 is a good bet though it has a limited 8gb of vram a used 2080ti is even better having same performance with 3 gigs of more vram.
@@FarissimoID i had a 3600x and upgraded to the 5700x a few months ago. I noticed better 1% lows and better average frames. I personally think its a worthy upgrade over the 3600/3600x
Exact same situation I'm in. Don't think the extra $100+ for the X3D is really worth it.
@@802Garage yeah that extra $100 can be used some where else in the build
Upgraded from R7 2700 about a week ago. Great performance indeed.
AM4 Socket is legendary! I just updated 3x gaming PCs using 5600(x) and my main work PC with 5700g from 3200g and I can see 5yrs use out of them. I love this platform. 5700x is fast becoming a great alternative to a 5600x now that prices are plummeting!
Went from a ryzen 5 2600 to this in january. Was a nice boost.
I've been on the fence about getting a 5700x since I've been slightly bottlenecking with my 3600 and 3060ti. This video has influenced my decision for sure. The gaming and productivity perf increase seems good plus I already have an Arctic freezer cooler. Thank you!
Def a solid upgrade.
i'm same specs as you, 3600 and 3060ti and i'm bottlenecked a bit in phantom liberty cpu goes 80+% usage in big city areas and i'm dropping fps from 60 to as low as 40-45. considering to get one for BF if they give some good offers (i've been tempted to go AM5 and 7700x but maybe i can breathe some more life if i swap just cpu)
Got my 5700x for 200 bucks and will be pairing with a 3070 for about 430 bucks for my first build. I hope it goes well, after so much research I think I've made some great purchases thus far!
Appreciate the video, thank you
I have it and its absolute blessing. Upgraded from 3 1200
I have a ryzen 5 5600 - idle temp is 40c, never goes down to 39c, and at full load, hitting 62c
now i changed it to ryzen 7 5700x - idle temp is 34c and max around 58c
Those two processors of mine running at a stock speed never overclock.
I love the power efficiency of this chip, and it partners with my rtx 4070 ti love it!
Yeah thats a great combo! The 5700x is an all around great 8 core chip
Great recommendation and I can vouch for the results. Updated from a R5-3600 to the 5700X almost a year ago. Did the undervolt/curve optimizer/PBO2 thing right away and it's been rock solid, quiet, clocks at about 4.85 Ghz while heavy gaming and is currently sipping 30W of power while YouTubing with a mild BOINC distributed computing project running in the background. Paired it with the Arctic Freezer A35 cooler which was on sale at time of purchase - almost like it was ordained or something. Having no problems OCing the RAM to 3800/CL16 either so the memory controller is superb as well. I was intending for it to be a bit of a placeholder until 5800X3D came down in price (it was more than the 5900X!) but I bumped my res up to UW1440p and plan on moving up to UW1600p at some point so it makes little sense to do so now. Pretty happy with it.
hello sir, can you please share your 5700x PBO2/CO config? thanks
@@adsssssssssss-z PBO: advanced, PBO limits: motherboard, PBO scalar: manual / 10X, Curve Optimizer: -25, max boost: +200
Awesome comparison metrics thanks. Seeing my humble Ryzen 5 3600 still in the race was cool 🤙🏻
I just built a system with the Ryzen 5 3600 and paired it with a. Powercolor rx 6800 Red Dragon GPU in April 2024 for a person with limited funds. It runs every game they throw at it in 1440p and they couldn't be happier.
Have a friend that got a deal on a fairly new 4080 for 800. He had an x570 mobo and ive been helping him make a build to replace his prebuilt.
I wasnt able to convince him to get the 5800x3d to pair it with his card, but he did agree to the 5700x. Looked up some benches and its not terrible. He'll still get top end performance especially since he is a 4k gamer.
There is gonna be 10%+/- bottleneck in newer titles. But not enough to ruin the experiance.
I guess when he eventually has problems ill trade him an x3d chip and use his 5700x to upgrade my sister's 3950x.
totally agree with you on the power draw aspect !
retired my Haswell Xeon this summer. Orginially wanted to get an AM5 at launch but the prices turned be down despite having the money.
Instead bought a used 5800x for 170€. Added a 550m steel series new and 2x32GB (needed for work) 3200HZ. Costed me just 500€.
Personally i run this CPU at a fixed 1.08V and 4.0GHz, whichs safes 30-50% Watts in office workload and gaming, while only sacrificing 20% single-core boost and 10% multicore. On top so much less heat and noise
How about dont fix ur cpu at 4.0 ghz and just use curve optimizer, 5-10% loss in multicore perf, similar or even better single core speed (faster gaming) and much lower temps.
1.08v is low you could up it a bit to get more proformance.
I run my 5800x for 2 years at 4.6 GHz @ 1.15v no PBO.
@@grlmgor i get to 4.4 @ 1.15v gaming stable and cinebench stable. temps are cool. but it will crash in prime small fft.
also i noticed if using PBO, it clocks down to 4.2 GHz at 1.2V in prime small fft, while it runs cinebench at 4.5. and its not becuase of the temps.
As my 1080TI starts to struggle in 1440p anyways and i run my 144HZ display at 120Hz and cap FPS there, i decided to just go with 4GHz on the CPU with minimal power draw
is your 4.6GHz prime stable small fft?
@@evilleader1991 i dont like the CPU boosting for really small workloads like microsoft teams doing whatever it does and requests CPU resources. With tiny workloads, like playing a 2D indie game + waching netflix, the CPU uses like 20Watts more with PBO even with curve optimizer. And due to home office my PC runs aroudn 16h / day, so 20W more or less does add up
@@nevernicemeadow It crash in prime small fft as soon as it started. I turn PBO off as I locked it in at 4.6 because my worst cores start to struggle above that.
Out of the box my 5800x was boosting to 5.85Ghz as I have a 280mm AIO.
Coming from a ryzen 5 2600 on the same B450 motherboard I bought back on 2018, I can say this is one of the best upgrades I did. It is an amazing cpu! and for 190 is a steal!
Upgraded from 2600x and a B450 board to, had it for about a month now and LOVING it!
@@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha That's amazing! Hope you enjoy it as much as I've been doing it.
won an auction and paid 124 gpb for this cpu, but it had few bended pins and lucky me again, I'm a master of fixing bended pins, no problem at all after fixing it, my build: 5700x, msi mpg b550i, 32gb 3733mhz ram and palit 3090, all in a fractal design ridge itx case.
So i just purchased this (2 days ago) and put in a cheap MSI b450 (ProM2 v2), the only issue was that with the stock AMD stealth cooler teperatures were around 60 and when used in novabench or heavy workloads 80-90 degress. I installed the Noctua-NHU12S Redux and now the temp always stays around 50-60, and remains around 61-62 at max workloads. Beautiful upgrade under for under $200, jsut watch the temperatures please!
I have the same cooler paired with my 5700x! And i get the same temps as you. I originally used my previous 3600x’s wraith spire on the 5700x for a couple weeks. While it wasnt horrible, the fan noise alone was annoying, so going with the noctua cooler was a worthy upgrade
I didn't know the price dropped under 200€ on 5700x. Time to build one system and test it out, thanks as always for these videos
I bought it for €204
I recently switched to a 5700 X and its great for gaming, al of my games feel smoother so a improvement in frame time consistency and most importantly a higher frame rate on Minecraft. I tend to hit a GPU bottle neck now rather than a CPU bottle neck while gaming. Running an RTX 2070 for reference. Also I noticed an noticeable improvement in load time in one of my games.
I have gone from a Ryzen 7 2700 to the 5700x. What an amazing upgrade. I do video editing (I don't use Adobe for anything) and it is absolutely amazing. It is paired with an RX6700 XT 12GB.
we have the exact same set up lol
@@Toniooo_30 same😀
Same set up.
Kids grow up so fast. Glad to see you spending more time with your son. You seem much happier.
I was gonna spend the extra and get a 5800X3D to upgrade from my 3600 just to have the best of the generation, but the extra $100+ just doesn't seem worth it. Probably gonna go with the 5700X and tune it.
I got myself 5700G few months back for about the same money. I did that because if I decide to sell GPU and swap for something better, I still will have APU to play my games without leaving me stranded. It's trade-off in cache department, but I think well worth it.
Nothing wrong with that! Because you never know when you need those integrated graphics and dont want to be left stranded. Luckily all AM5 cpus have integrated graphics for down the road when you upgrade
Did the exact same in December. no regret whatsoever.
@@Bdot888 But they don't even come close to an APU for performance, they're basically so you can order a new GPU.
@@mikem9536 yeah very true. I wonder if AM5 will even produce Apus. I guess they rather sell their discrete graphics
I have the 5700G now in use for over one year. The integrated graphics are shit for gaming and only worth for display. But are way better than the UHD 630 on my SFF Dell. The UHD 630 gives about 12 fps and the 5700G gives about 26 fps while the GT 1030 gives 40 fps to 50 fps.
I was torn as well to buy the 5700G for my first build now but I went with the 5900X for more cache and cores. The 5700G is loaded to 50+ % on task manager on games meaning games already use all 8 cores passing in the realm of thread use. So 8 cores are already obsolete in reality. The 5950X would be an overall better CPU but with 460$ it is to expensive. I got my 5900X as well for overpriced at 336$.
AM6 and the 8000 series Ryzen will have 200 cores as I hear. That makes any 7950X3D immediately obsolete. Even Windows uses allmost all cores of an 2012 cuad core 740QM i7 CPU I am using now. I get lags when loading 6 tabs on Edge due to the processor being 100% loaded with the WiFi data. An 8 cores will be barely enough for running Windows 11 snappy in the future. Even the 5700G starts to feel a bit sluggish by now and that is an 8 core 16 thread high end CPU.
Under 12 core CPU's are a no go today best is to go for the 5950X or any other 16 core 32 thread. Even that is already obsolete, sort of, when Ryzen 8000 shows up soon. Endless money pit, if you ask me.
This 5900X is my first and last built due to expensive constant spending on out of the box obsolete hardware already.
As the owner of a 5950X tested both in and out of Game Mode, SMT on and off, and Eco Mode on and off, I have the next best thing to personal experience that the 5700X is a great CPU. Hardware Unboxed found this CPU to be faster than the Core-i5 13400. I find that my 5950X plays all my games extremely well most of the time, with the usual exceptions: adequate Cities Skylines performance is unobtainable, The Just Cause games stutter when you drive around quickly on the ground, particularly Just Cause 3, and GemCraft is capped at 30 FPS anyway. For more average games, Surviving Mars, Need for Speed: Heat, NFS Unbound, Forza Horizon 4/5... I'm GPU-bound with a fairly stable 90 FPS or higher, and I rate performance as functionally perfect. You don't need more CPU performance than this for gaming, outside of specialized scenarios, and $200 or less is a good price for this class of CPU. If you're thinking of getting a better CPU than this, you should either be upgrading an existing AM4 system, looking to build a cheap workstation with a Core-i5 13500 or 13600K, or you should be looking at AM5.
I remember when asking you about upgrading my 3600 to 5700X and jumped the gun on buying this. Thanks for the recommendations, 5700X is great!
Just got one of these for $275 aud. couldn't be happier with it. took out my 2700x after simple bios update. running it with pbo enabled and curve optimiser all core -10. absolutely flys in gaming.
I went with an under-volted Ryzen 5700x for my "TradeBot" PC, automated trading of the futures market. Runs cool all week, non-stop from Sunday evening to Friday afternoon.
I got one last week, I'm really happy with it. 98th percentile in the silicone lottery. OC'd to 4.75 Ghz all cores and power limit set to motherboard.
I love my 5600X it runs brilliantly with everything I throw at it, to me is the best cheaper option for a budget gaming cpu.
I'm sticking with my AM4 system for another year or two as I got my 5800X 3D for a really good price brand new and it's doing everything I throw at it with ease. I wouldn't mind getting a 5700X for a budget build for anyone in my family that may want one as B450 and B550 motherboards are still in good supply at a low price.
Why you do upgrade to AM5 make sure you have a good cooler. I built a 7600x SFF built for my sisters friend. And while the 5600x can get you similar performance to an 5800. The 7600x is also hot as hell. So it would thermal throttle.
With Ryzen 7000 x versions you need an NH-D15 or better for air cooling. That's one lesson I learned the hard way.
5700x is a decent CPU, just a year too late and now it's destined for the bargain bin.
Thank you, this has been really helpful mate. I went out and got a 2nd hand 3070 today, only to take it home and find myself with WORSE fps than my previous GPU (RX580, 2017). Pairing the 4070 with my current cpu R5 2600x (2018) is BOTTLENECK CITY.
After checking a bottleneck calculator, the 5700x is right in the sweet spot of value yet still pretty beefy!
Peace
That's a cpu I would have no problems recommending and should last for several years, thanks for the tip!
Adding ultrawide comparisions would be a great for cpu/gpu, there are not much ultrawide tests happening on youtube. I love your content, chart colors can use more contrast :) Awesome work
Given the inflated gpu pricing, By the time I am getting a 4090 equivalent performing card, I am likely looking at something like an am6 platform, so a 5700x is a very good value.
You can shoot lower. You can get a $120 5500 which is in all cases faster than 3600, not always but sometimes closing in on 5600 and it's a ton of fun since it takes PBO spectacularly well. You can get a b450 board to go with it for $60 and RAM isn't gonna break the bank either. AM4 is a dead end platform anyway, you shouldn't be pumping too much money into it, depends individually how much is too much. I don't think we expect DDR6 and thus AM6 in foreseeable future. DDR4 has been with us for nearly a decade now that it's getting phased out.
@@SianaGearz , what makes you think it’s only called am5/4 because uses ddr5/4?
I know it’s a dead end platform, but so is am5 eventually, the difference is I know exactly what I would be getting for the price and the trade off of gaming performance in the long term is accounted for with the aforementioned 4090. It’s not bad to necessarily Save the money now and use it on a new platform later. Either ways if you are considering am4, you are not justifying am5. I can by a budget gpu, mobo, ram, decent cpu, and powder are psu for less than the motherboard and lowest level cpu for am5.
Spending money on a 5500 is bad advice either way. You would be much better of with a 5600 or 5700x for the extra $.
@@robertt9342 5600 is a much much better processor but it depends on pricing trend and regional pricing. At the moment i bought the 5500 myself 5600 would have cost me 70€ extra or 50% extra. If you can get it within $25 extra it becomes a no-brainer. Similar consideration applies to of course any higher step up from that.
Socket naming has been a tradition for mainstream sockets.
AM2 runs on DDR2
AM2+ runs on DDR2 or DDR3 and is a backwards and forwards compatible bridge spec.
AM3 runs on DDR3
AM4 runs on DDR4
AM5 runs on DDR5
Every time a new memory spec comes along, of course the socket needs to be redesigned because the processor is the memory controller. Intel has been able to slipstream these adjustments into their every-two-families new CPU socket. AMD pushes the changes back for a while.
There are some exceptions. FM1, FM2 and AM1 were short-lived DDR3 compatible sockets with video feature or SoC connectivity, ones lacking FSB (HyperTransport). AM4 is similar to these, being an SoC socket but with DDR4.
I think it's a fair guess that if an AM5 successor comes before DDR6, it's likely to have a different name than AM6. Within a given socket, also an incompatibility could be introduced at the chipset or BIOS level, like if that socket lives for 7 or 10 years, it may turn out impossible for the earliest boards to support last CPUs coming out for it.
i just upgraded to this last december from ryzen 5 2600x and the difference is big in terms of performance faired with my rtx 3060ti.
With electricity prices being so high, my shopping style has switched from 'bang per buck' to 'bang per watt' so I love when you focus on power consumption. Great video!
I got a solid deal on the 5800X3D on Amazon. However all the AM4 upgrades are just good deals all around.
Upgraded from a 3600 without a single issue.
yep, can't wait to upgrade from my 3500x
How much did u paid for x3d?
Had a 3600x paired with a 3080 at 1440p and some games had bad frame drops. Upgraded to a 5700x and instantly noticed better %1 lows and better average frames. All while being cheaper than what i bought the 3600x two years ago. Also the low power usage and cool temps is great!
The low power consumption and temps made it great for my itx pc build. I have a 3080 ftw3 ultra and a 5700x In a dan a4 h20 and a 240mm aio.
Neither of the components go above 65 degrees
AM4 is such an amazing price to performance platform. Bring on the low prices!
Yeah but AM4 is a dead platform it’s hard to recommend it over Intel for those on a budget. Intel is killing it right now with their price to performance
@@dennisp8520 How is it a dead platform? Because it won't get updated CPUs?
@@dennisp8520 eh as long as your pc is faster than current gen consoles you'll be just fine and the 5000 series ryzen is faster than the consoles out today, the cpu in current gen consoles is between a 2700x and a 3700x performance wise.
Howdy. I have this phenomenal CPU with a GAMMA400V2 air cooler which cost $20, it keeps the CPU at 77c on full stress test 100% across 8 cores. Curve-optimized these run at the full max boost 4650MHz on all 8 cores under load. Just beautiful. Upgraded from Ryzen 1700 meaning I will be on this PC/platform for probably 8-10 years.
I bought a 5700G not long ago and are Happy Happy with that one since I don't need better graphics than what the 5700G have.
Man that CPU's box looked like it had been opened by a 5 year old on Christmas morning.
Can't wait for the cpu cooler showdown vid:)
I went for the 5700x as a drop in upgrade for my 2700x on an X470. Have it paired up with a 3060ti I got on Black Friday to replace my GTX 1070.
With curve optimizer I dropped all cores to a -15 offset and a 200mhz auto OC. Basically it’s a 5800x for a bit of a discount. Runs at 4.2 all core, 4.85 single core.
On a side note I could also finally run my ram at 3600mhz. The 2700x could never get past 3400mhz.
what temps does you cpu push when gaming ? I have a 5700x as well tried some overclocking but my temps go to around 75 to max 80. Boost to 4.65ghz
@@christiaandekock1136 I have a Scythe Myugen RevB cooler on it. Max around 72-75C but usually hang in the mid 60s if gaming. 80C is absolutely fine by the way. As long as you not up in the 90’s.
@@kent6732 Cool appreciate the response!
You can use ryzen master to find out the Curve optimization per core. It should take around an hour, and you don’t have to do anything. The software figures out the values for you. Also playing around with PPT, TDC, and EDC if you want the lower temp (decrease these values) or the higher all-core boost (increase these values).
@@nhozdien5058 yeah I used ryzen master when i got the cpu. Not entirely sure if i applied what it did but performace definitely increased afterwards. Scored around 15000+ on r23.
I have a hyper 212 on atm - just dropped it on after upgrading. Want to maybe go AIO for peace of mind haha
The 5600 or 5600X (virtually identical) needed to be in these benchmarks, because it is well known that they perform about the same as the 5700X and 5800X in most games, and they are both significantly cheaper. People need to know whether (and to what extent) the performance advantages are of having two more cores, and for which games it makes a difference.
I would guess that a 5700X is starting to make more sense for a gaming PC now, especially because the only upgrade option you have for gaming on an AM4 board is to go up to the rather expensive 5800X3D, so, given that a lot of people will probably want to try to make their Zen 3 cpu last a bit longer on this platform (because there are no more advanced architecture cpus available for Zen 4), having 8-cores might matter a bit more for "future proofing" to some extent. Also, some games do seem to run better on an 8-core Zen 3 CPU vs. a 6-core Zen 3 CPU. Still, as far as I can tell, most games run about the same on 6-core Zen 3 CPUs, and the games which do run better on an 8-core are not likely to see a meaningful difference with a more mid-ranged GPU, and even with a high-end GPU, the performance difference is not likely to be that big (not nearly as big as the difference in the number of cores).
I had the same question because the 5600 is 50 bucks cheaper!
October 2024 and im using my (first ever self-build) Pc with 7 5700x paired with a rx6800
Still runs games at 1440p smoothly and handles video editing good as well
I just swapped my 3600 with 5700x brand new for 120$ (and i sold my 3600 for 60$), that's a deal!
I used this chip in my daughter’s first gaming rig. Only used Intel up to that point and so had no idea what to expect.
What a beast it has turned out to be. It’s proven to be so good that it convinced me to go AMD for my own rig I recently built.
What did you get for your own rig in the event? Just being nosey. :D
@@mapesdhs597 I got myself the 7600X and absolutely love it so far.
I wasn't even thinking about upgrading from my 3600, but then I saw the 5700x for $200 on black friday and had to get one.
i got the R7 5700 x and ist a great CPU for Gaming i lov it!!!
so happy about that cpu, just bought it to upgrade my i5 6600k with it and a b550m aorus elite for like 265€
Bought this beauty for 140$ on Ali 11.11 sale :)
I picked this CPU up at a national retailer here in Canada in November for the equivalent of $162 USD. What a steal!
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Wow, make sure you also get that free games that comes with cpu
Nice,
I'll upgrade my 1800x to a 5700x soon as well. It's amazing that the boost will be immense while running cooler.
Just bought a 5700x for $115 locally and sold off a 5600 for $100. It’s in my 2nd Media PC in the master bedroom. Paired with a 6700xt, x570s, 32gb 3200mhz c16 dual rank, 980pro 1tb boot , sn770 2tb game storage. Great well rounded bedroom pc.
I got a 5800x for like $170 shipped upgrading from a 2700. It's baller. Improved everything by leaps an bounds. Down side is that it runs pretty hot.
i built 6 rigs (my own upgrade and some for my siblings and cousins), all went AM4, got 1x 5600x, 1x 5700x and 5800x (same price as 5600x brand new), 1x 5800x3d, 1x 12490f. Most of these i got 30-35% below retail in my country, sometimes by importing
Good video got one a month ago. Runs cold, Well priced and performs well. Its a great cpu if you are doing 1440p and higher.
Great video. Good to see some of the other options open on AM4. I just built my first AMD system in years around a free Ryzen 5 1600 AF. Got the CPU free for trade for an i5 8400 of all things.
I think I will be quite happy with my current setup for awhile but it is always good to know what other options are out there.
got a 2700x....with x470 taichi. Considering grabbing one of these and upgrading from 16 to 32gb ram and holding out fully upgrading anther 2-3 years
Just bought one of these along with a B550 motherboard to upgrade my 2700x system. Haven't installed it but I'm looking forward to the increases.
I upgraded yesterday from 2700x to 5700x but it needed some tweaking when using PBO on B450 tomahawk max ii (Latest BIOS) with GSkill Ripjaws V 2x8gb cl16 3200mhz DDR4 + Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo and once you configure your PBO Limits PPT TDC EDC and the extra 200mhz single core boost clock with Curve Optimizer around -25 for me for all cores for now... it gets real faster on clockspeeds better power thermals and also better scores in CB R23.
These CPUs at 8 cores 16 threads 36mb of cache on am4 board are killer cpus. AM4 platform is stable and the pricing is good for the components. if done with gpu 2020 and above with 8gb your set for awhile.
Picked up a 5700x for $300AUD a couple months back, not even a week later it went on sale for $200AUD which peeved me off a bit but still super happy with the chip, much snappier than the i7-3770 in there previously
Huge upgrade, I went from an i7 4790 to a Ryzen 5 5600 and already thought it was a night and day difference in many games
pretty happy with my $349 canadian 12700k. First intel 8 core she is super snappy
I agree in taking a look at the i5-13500 in the near future!
Nice video, greetings to japan 😇
Prefer the 5800x, it can often be found for the same price, has very slightly higher default clocks and overclocks slightly better (than the 5700x).
I am happy that my Ryzen 5 3600 is still doing well. Hes the new low budget king in Germany right now. I got a R5 3600 plus a MSI A520 MB for 70€ for a friend. Thats pretty good value for the money
I bought this CPU with a midrange GPU, an RX6700(non-XT). Haven’t been disappointed. Threw on a Noctua U12S Redux. Goes up to 65c under full cinebench load. Probably could just go with a Wraith cooler, but I wanted some headroom to see what kind of overclocking it does. Then I realized I haven’t overclocked a CPU since a Phenom II and it seems to have gotten way more involved than just raising the multiplier and voltage :(
I'm planning to upgrade to a RX 6900 XT soon, with a plan to upgrade my CPU sometime later in the year. Right now, I'm running a Ryzen 7 3800X, hopefully, I'll be able to get a decent price on the 5800X3D at some point in the near future.
I just ordered a 5700x myself. Should be here tomorrow. Paired with a rx 6700 xt.
Wow i was able to get this cpu on sale a couple of months ago. Glad it was a good buy.
Thanks, Interested in the comparison vid also.
Just upgraded from an i5 6600k(yeah 2015 skylake) to a 5700x new build, the diference is Just too huge, happy with the performance and the Price
At MicroCenter I5 12600K 199$, I5 13600K 249$, 5800x3d 299$, I7 13700K 329$. I don’t know how 5700X can compete with this CPU in these price brackets. I understand many people don’t live close to MicroCenter or different countries have different price structures. But for me or someone within a reasonable distance from MicroCenter 5700X doesn’t make any sense. To make things worse for 5700X in New Jersey electronics tax it’s only 3.6%. Using MicroCenter credit card I get 5% of instant saving on purchases over 200$ I get those parts under their listed price. For me 5700X should be 140$ or less to even consider it. Great. video by the way Brian. Love your content.❤
I have used Intel cpu's my entire life, but the 5700x seems a really compiling choice. The only thing about picking the 5700x over the 13500 or 7700 is you lose out on the new latest motherboard tech. However, I'm going with the 5700x and a B550 Strix board for my next build. Thanks for the info, great timing for me.
For the same cost you can get the 12400 which gives the same performance and provides an upgrade path.
@@mikem9536 Hi Mike, also a good choice. I went with the 5700x (mostly due to some curiosity about Ryzen chips). I also wanted an 8-core chip. On Newegg, I got my cpu, motherboard, and ram for under $500. Plus, a free game, that I will play. Not a bad deal. If I ever want to upgrade on this platform, I could drop in a 5800x3d chip for a performance bump.
I've been running the same motherboard and ram since 2019 (asrock x570 + 3200mhz RAM)
went from a 3600 to 5800x then 5800X3D..sold the 3600 for the price I paid and sold my 250 5800x for 210 and got a 5800x3D with uncharted for £330!!
Also got my 5700X today for 199$ combined with a 4070ti for 550$ so overall pretty happy. Can't wait to build this machine and start using it :)
Great video. Even in Canada, the CPU is under $250. One thing I'd like to see is a discussion on dependable Aliexpress sellers - sellers that you have found good to buy from. Cheers.
Picked up this cpu a few days ago, best upgrade ive ever done. Upgraded from a r52600
Hey long time viewer first time commenter here. Love the content. Excellent points about the value the AM4 platform still has in it. However I would caution that if it's for a system you'd like to last 5 years buy a spare MOBO and/or have a good warranty and back-up plan in case of MOBO failure.
Tech TH-camrs focus on forward compatibility but what if your MOBO dies just out of warranty and because it's an older platform you have to pay a premium to get a working MOBO back? I would love to see someone say "at least if your mobo dies in 3 years there'll still be availability of compatible MOBOs readily available.
I had a customer spend close to $800 AUD for me to fix their PC under these circumstances and it took me a week to find an ebay MOBO that would replace the failed one (after a TON of testing to rule out all the other components I could with parts on hand). I hate having to pay scalper price for 3 - 5 year old motherboard. Said customer spent $3k AUD on system to begin with and was perfectly happy with it until the MOBO died so it was worth it to them to spend $800 on me for parts and labour to just get it back to how it was!
DDR4 RAM will go up in price as it becomes more uncommon in the next few years as will legacy MOBOs for even AM4 that AMD did a stellar job of supporting as long as it did...
Thank you for explaining the 4090 use, many in the community don’t understand it and becomes an issue.
The 5700X is my first Ryzen CPU. Combined with used X570 and even used 3070. Cooled with my good beautiful old Zalman CNPS 9900 Max. This AMD is cool&quiet for real. And fast as hell!! Best choice for 200€ !!
What x570 board did you get? I'm tempted to upgrade from my Ryzen 3600 and X470 combination
Just snagged one for $130 in December 2024.
I built a 5700X system, using an on-hand 2070 Super, after Black Friday. Great build that meets just about anyone's production, office, and gaming needs. The CPU was on sale for $219 US then, so it's an even better bargain now.
love seeing the 1700 for reference
This is a fantastic CPU, like many have said before it's what the 5800X should have been. If I didin't end up getting the 5900X last year and then the 5800X3D I would have no doubt grabbed myself one of these!!😎
Nice review! I got a bunch of new parts back in August and the lower power draw of the 5700x (and price lol) compared to the 5800x and -x3D really sealed the deal. I chose to stay on air with a DeepCool AK400(I couldn't find where to actually buy the AM4 bracket for my trusty Hyper 212 EVO) and it stays nice and cool. Quite the uplift over my i7 3770, to put it mildly lol
Got 2 of these babies in 2 systems with RX 6700XTs, it consumes nothing, runs cool and does everything from work to Cyberpunk or Anno 1800 (both CPU taxing) with ease, got them from Aliexpress for 180ish for each CPU.
Nice review Brian. Just got one of these with a few bios changes it can match a 5800X
The older ryzens appears to have been marked down end of Jan. The 5700G (one with integrated GPU) was 10$ less than you got the x for, adn the 5600g I saw for $110usd on amazon. Crazy good price for what you're getting, cant hardly find a motherboard for cheaper than the cpu!
But the 5600G and 5700G are much worse CPUs compared to the 5600x or 5700x
Dont bother with the G models if you have no use for iGPU. They have less L3 cache and generally much worse in gaming than even the 5600 (non-x)
@@maggi98mw I had no idea, thought they was just a lower clocked version. No matter, not like im' going to pair it with a very high end gpu, should be fine lol. Still a nobrainer for dang near low budget pc (in my case upgrading 2nd pc).
@@bigbenisdaman Yeah they have great uses for the right budget
Thing is for AM4 you can get a cheap mainboard. I paid 57€ shipped for my b450m msi pro vdh max which isn't terrible, I can PBO to like 100W sustained and the mainboard stays cool is barely even stressed. You could do a lot worse than that. The seller was super nice and updated the BIOS for me too at no extra cost, but I really should tip him someday.