Spent several nights in ADA bedrooms on Superliners during a round trip cross country trip to Seattle. First from DC to CHI and then CHI to SEA. Later, SEA to SAC, SAC to CHI (through a wild fire in Colorado with manual signaling as the fire had taken out the CTC signal lines) followed by CHI to PIT. The cars were not in the best of shape mechanically, including the A/C, and my wife had to clean the fixtures in our bedrooms. #2308 is SEPTA's 'hanger queen' - meaning it needs a LOT of TLC.
+mike klaene From the way it sound it was one interesting trip. But were the rooms big in the cars compared to the viewliners?..I believe that I filmed her being towed train and all past my house.
EMDSD14R Never been on a Viewliner. The room was the full width of the car but only 6'6" deep - had a toilet and sink but no shower. With the wheelchair and bags it was quite snug but not bad.
mike klaene Yeah the viewliners are small as far as rooms. That sounds pretty big. And yeah I see what you mean but your right its better then nothing.
+Look Out For The Train Thanks and indeed it is extremely rare. The song is called "beat your completion" and those are Septa Bombardier cars not comets. Septa had some Comet 1's from NJT but they are not in service anymore.
Look Out For The Train They look similar but they aren't they have difference between the cars as far as flared steps side sills on the coments which these don't have and a few other details. Look more into them and you'll like what you see.
So the superliners actually fit under the wires? Then why aren't there 110mph bi-levels flying down the NEC? With proper modifications these cars that are restricted to 79 could be fitted with aerodynamic flanges and wedges on the locos. I've been on some MBTA trains hitting massive speeds on the corridor, with several k cars in tow. Imagine revenue superliners on the NEC....
+burdizdawurd1516 These cars are only certified to fit under the wires on the Keystone Corridor. They are not for the NEC because they can't fit into the tunnel outside of Boston or the ones in NY. Plus a lot of bridges on the NEC are low and the wire are low in certain spots which would prevent these cars from running also. And bi-levels are on the NEC you have NJT, Marc and Septa is getting them also. But you mean why doesn't Amtrak use them. I think they will get some newer cars that are bi-level but they will be different and I don't think they are for the NEC. I need to find that out. But in Washington Union Station its common to see superliners under the wires there because there is enough clearance for them.
Wow, I never knew there were different wire heights. Wouldn't it just be easier to keep the same wire height? Given that, the pantographs on equipment that operates on both routes has to be adjustable. I bet that would affect performance, depending on the speed. I guess you learn something everyday.
burdizdawurd1516 Well unless you want to raise certain bridges and make those tunnels taller plus you have to lower the wires in order for the trains to get power in low ceiling stations like Market East Station(Jefferson Station) as an example. Its not always cost effective to do that. Lowering the track bed is another option but doing it for these cars in this area is not practical. These cars won't even fit in 30th street station and that's why they are being kept outside in the yard. These cars weren't made for this area they are for super long distance runs which is why they are soo tall. Plus they are not made for high-level platforms only low level. Also Pantographs no matter how tall or short they are designed to be aero dynamic. And they have to have constant contact with the wires which is why they are sprung and move with the height of the wires. Are you thinking of superliners that are like EMU's or having electric's tow them around?
6:18 by 2018, the final ALP44 will be no more because SEPTA *had* to order ACS64's as well.
+The Bigmindcreator AKA Elliot Its the final and only ALP44 prototype. ALP44S :-) Indeed I am well aware that septa is getting the ACS64's also.
Spent several nights in ADA bedrooms on Superliners during a round trip cross country trip to Seattle. First from DC to CHI and then CHI to SEA. Later, SEA to SAC, SAC to CHI (through a wild fire in Colorado with manual signaling as the fire had taken out the CTC signal lines) followed by CHI to PIT. The cars were not in the best of shape mechanically, including the A/C, and my wife had to clean the fixtures in our bedrooms. #2308 is SEPTA's 'hanger queen' - meaning it needs a LOT of TLC.
+mike klaene From the way it sound it was one interesting trip. But were the rooms big in the cars compared to the viewliners?..I believe that I filmed her being towed train and all past my house.
EMDSD14R Never been on a Viewliner. The room was the full width of the car but only 6'6" deep - had a toilet and sink but no shower. With the wheelchair and bags it was quite snug but not bad.
mike klaene Yeah the viewliners are small as far as rooms. That sounds pretty big. And yeah I see what you mean but your right its better then nothing.
amazing catch with the superliners
+rail devil Thanks!
That's pretty cool and rare! Two questions, what's the intro music? Also what kind of cars are at 7:30 are they Comets?
+Look Out For The Train Thanks and indeed it is extremely rare. The song is called "beat your completion" and those are Septa Bombardier cars not comets. Septa had some Comet 1's from NJT but they are not in service anymore.
EMDSD14R They looked familiar, but I don't know too much about SEPTA's equipment.
Look Out For The Train They look similar but they aren't they have difference between the cars as far as flared steps side sills on the coments which these don't have and a few other details. Look more into them and you'll like what you see.
So the superliners actually fit under the wires? Then why aren't there 110mph bi-levels flying down the NEC? With proper modifications these cars that are restricted to 79 could be fitted with aerodynamic flanges and wedges on the locos. I've been on some MBTA trains hitting massive speeds on the corridor, with several k cars in tow. Imagine revenue superliners on the NEC....
+burdizdawurd1516 These cars are only certified to fit under the wires on the Keystone Corridor. They are not for the NEC because they can't fit into the tunnel outside of Boston or the ones in NY. Plus a lot of bridges on the NEC are low and the wire are low in certain spots which would prevent these cars from running also. And bi-levels are on the NEC you have NJT, Marc and Septa is getting them also. But you mean why doesn't Amtrak use them. I think they will get some newer cars that are bi-level but they will be different and I don't think they are for the NEC. I need to find that out. But in Washington Union Station its common to see superliners under the wires there because there is enough clearance for them.
Wow, I never knew there were different wire heights. Wouldn't it just be easier to keep the same wire height? Given that, the pantographs on equipment that operates on both routes has to be adjustable. I bet that would affect performance, depending on the speed. I guess you learn something everyday.
burdizdawurd1516 Well unless you want to raise certain bridges and make those tunnels taller plus you have to lower the wires in order for the trains to get power in low ceiling stations like Market East Station(Jefferson Station) as an example. Its not always cost effective to do that. Lowering the track bed is another option but doing it for these cars in this area is not practical. These cars won't even fit in 30th street station and that's why they are being kept outside in the yard. These cars weren't made for this area they are for super long distance runs which is why they are soo tall. Plus they are not made for high-level platforms only low level. Also Pantographs no matter how tall or short they are designed to be aero dynamic. And they have to have constant contact with the wires which is why they are sprung and move with the height of the wires. Are you thinking of superliners that are like EMU's or having electric's tow them around?
The new superliner like double deck cars Amtrak is getting will be for regional corridors in the midwest & California