Hats off to you Rob. On the one hand, you're one of the folks pioneering Top Fuel. There is not, nor has there ever been a "road map". You can't "lean" on the factory (F-1), you can't really borrow from Detroit, Nascar, Indy (lmao), etc. The innovation comes from you and about 100 guys like you. ON THE OTHER HAND.......you must create a video that works for 100,000's of gear heads, EACH, with his/her own level of knowledge/understanding. Now and then, someone simply needs to stand up and give credit where it's due. Well done.
Wow, thank you SO much! Geez, I've seen dozens of videos on the clutches, this is the first one that shows that piston that actuates the levers! I'd always wondered what worked them. Centrifugal clutch, okay, so, it's the centrifugal force that's flinging those fingers outwards to put pressure on the plates? Doesn't seem possible. Now, I know the whole story.
That is great to hear about Terry getting to play again! I hate to hear about cars getting parked due to a lack of funds, but they are just so silly expensive to run competitively. A nitro clutch is one of those things I have a slight grasp on, just enough to know i want to know more.
I’m a big fan of these things and was wondering if there is sintered? Iron pressed onto the clutch discs of am I talking nonsense. Appreciate the video.
Rob, I admire your knowledge and look forward to your commentary and explanations. As I understand the multi-disk clutch systems, the fingers are trying to apply pressure to the clutch stack and the cannon is trying to hold them back. Therefore, the whole clutch pack slips. You can adjust the weights of the fingers to attempt to apply more or less pressure and adjust the bleed down of the cannon to control that pressure based on time from when the right foot smashes the peddle. Is that close? Thanks again....
You guys use this type of clutch disc because the NHRA only allow this one or is because carbon fiber ones isnt better? Thank you for the knowledge shared
Over the years there’s been a lot of different materials that have been tried and I think also cost plays a big part into it. Also the abuse that these things take is crazy toward it’s almost just a throw away part.
I think part of it is that you’re also out all the time and money trying to figure out a whole new clutch. The way it responds and acts is likely to be different. So, you loose all the data you’ve got from years of running the traditional clutch. And, if the only difference is really that it maybe lasts another pass or two it just isn’t really worth it.
Design of the chassis needs to be as flexible as possible because it doesn’t have suspension so When it’s going over bumps and things like that on the track it’s able to do so without upsetting traction.
Was curious if the Nova had been fixed. Nice work Champ. Nice pull on that. Thanks for the clutch plate and cannon info. Chewed the shit out of those plates. Lotsa load with the extra handful of nuts on the last pass??. I didn't think they broke down that far and chunked out. Hope you and Terry can can get out and make some laps.
Rob as always appreciate these videos so much. Odd question but wondering if you could answer. Have you ever heard the name Jack Phenagar (pretty sure last name is spelled correct). He used to live by me years ago and i heard he was either a chassis guy or head guy for pretty sure top fuel scene. Was always curious if it was true.
First, I really hope Terry gets a long-term deal and the team can get back to running some rounds. Leah's car looked like it folded vertically but that new brace is for horizontal movement. Did her car intially have a lower rail fold in allowing an upper rail to bend and fail downward? Are the clamps on the Leah & X braces regular worm gear clamps?
The only car that has been ran is the one that I built for Larry Dixon two weekends ago. It absolutely was a carbon copy run install no difference but they were things done in the way it was built that I believe helps with flexibility. Great question!
@@Tim.1113 Imagine how fast they would be if traction control were allowed. A computer could monitor wheel slip and modulate the clutch faster than any human to keep the wheels at the slip percentage that gives the most acceleration without allowing uncontrolled spin.
Like a fucking rocket! We need to figure out a way to get my boss man to sponsor you guys, I know it's about half of what we paid the other guys that stiffed us
Fortunately the first thing I ever did was clutching a fuel car so I never put disks in backwards, but it is racing and shit happens :-) I bet everyone was through the moon finally getting over 260 mile per hour! That is definitely a magic number for that type of car :-)
In-depth analysis on race cars never gets boring. Appreciate you, Rob
I can't get enough of you talking about this stuff. Thanks for the videos I appreciate it.
Thanks for watching brother!
Hats off to you Rob. On the one hand, you're one of the folks pioneering Top Fuel. There is not, nor has there ever been a "road map". You can't "lean" on the factory (F-1), you can't really borrow from Detroit, Nascar, Indy (lmao), etc. The innovation comes from you and about 100 guys like you. ON THE OTHER HAND.......you must create a video that works for 100,000's of gear heads, EACH, with his/her own level of knowledge/understanding. Now and then, someone simply needs to stand up and give credit where it's due. Well done.
Thanks brother!
i am not into dragsters but man you are dragging me with your channel !
GREAT VIDEO as ALWAYS, THANK YOU so much for taking the time to do these AWESOME VIDEOs and sharing!
wish i had a shop like that and just a little of all ur top fuel knowledge. also cant have a good shop without the Goodson catalog and their tools.
Thanks again for all these videos Rob.
And to think Rob learned how to do all of this on TH-cam!>)).
Great stuff Rob, thanks again.
Thank you for showing us how the clutch cannon works, much appreciated!
Man i am late to the party its been buzzy here thanks for the video
Rob you're a legend, thanks so much for sharing this stuff.
Thanks brother! Lots of stuff coming! Should be fun!
Awesome content!!! You’re teaching us something with every video. Thanks!!!!
Great stuff brother!!! As always, Thank You Sir for all your time and efforts! 😊
This info is really cool. Unless you worked on a nitro car, you could never be exposed to this. Very interesting. Great content.
Great videos Rob !
There's so much nuanced details about the clutch - thanks so much for explaining it, Rob! .. such a welcomed & enjoyed video - thanks so much!
We ran a Crowerglide in the BB/FC, I gotta laugh at how simple it was compared to this stuff now. Do love your videos!
Yeah it’s all still the same shit we’re just holding back some of the letters that are standing up! 🤣
@Lucas Oldaker No he stole my name 😂
Love ur videos rob, i cant imagine all the stories uve got!!
Oh there are some good ones!! 😀🤣 thanks for watching brother!
@@robwendland lay a few nitro tales down. Thanks for the insight man, good stuff
Awesome content!!!! You are teaching us something with every video. Thanks!!!!
THANK YOU ROB,,STAY WELL
Appreciate it brother!
This is fascinating content, it’s all extremely interesting. Thanks.
Now I know what kind of clutch to get for my Toyota.
Bring that thing on over will shove one in it
Anthony can hook that up lol. #TRD
I'll be at the nationals.
Hope to see you guys there.
Thanks for sharing Rob, great stuff as always
Thank you Scott!
Thanks for showing us the inside scoop really enjoy the content
Right on! More to come!
@@robwendland so other than drag racing what motor sports do you enjoy?
Wow, thank you SO much! Geez, I've seen dozens of videos on the clutches, this is the first one that shows that piston that actuates the levers! I'd always wondered what worked them. Centrifugal clutch, okay, so, it's the centrifugal force that's flinging those fingers outwards to put pressure on the plates? Doesn't seem possible.
Now, I know the whole story.
Great information ! Thank you.
Good stuff. Keep em coming man.
Thanks for watching!
That is great to hear about Terry getting to play again! I hate to hear about cars getting parked due to a lack of funds, but they are just so silly expensive to run competitively. A nitro clutch is one of those things I have a slight grasp on, just enough to know i want to know more.
The in depth videos are awesome, thanks dude
I’m a big fan of these things and was wondering if there is sintered? Iron pressed onto the clutch discs of am I talking nonsense. Appreciate the video.
Rob some day show us the Clutch program prep for disk and Flywheel and Donuts! I need to start a program for TF car!
We sure will do here in just the next couple days
Good stuff!
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
Anyone ever tried a multidisk wet clutch for better life? Too much extra weight?
Really interesting and informative video - a bit surprised to see frame members attached with hose clamps?
I'm guessing it's to allow more flexibility than if they were solid mounted? Maybe Rob will chime in.
Great stuff. At the worst, you've got a great front end in stock. ✌
Who knows they might change the rules by then and this thing will be ready to rock!
C'mon man, I'm addicted and need more content!
What is that white thing that appeared on the track behind his rear wheel at 7:25 ?
Rob, I admire your knowledge and look forward to your commentary and explanations. As I understand the multi-disk clutch systems, the fingers are trying to apply pressure to the clutch stack and the cannon is trying to hold them back. Therefore, the whole clutch pack slips. You can adjust the weights of the fingers to attempt to apply more or less pressure and adjust the bleed down of the cannon to control that pressure based on time from when the right foot smashes the peddle. Is that close? Thanks again....
You guys use this type of clutch disc because the NHRA only allow this one or is because carbon fiber ones isnt better? Thank you for the knowledge shared
Over the years there’s been a lot of different materials that have been tried and I think also cost plays a big part into it. Also the abuse that these things take is crazy toward it’s almost just a throw away part.
I think part of it is that you’re also out all the time and money trying to figure out a whole new clutch. The way it responds and acts is likely to be different. So, you loose all the data you’ve got from years of running the traditional clutch.
And, if the only difference is really that it maybe lasts another pass or two it just isn’t really worth it.
Hey Rob I'm wondering do the top fuel dragsters have a weak point in the middle for safety??????
Design of the chassis needs to be as flexible as possible because it doesn’t have suspension so When it’s going over bumps and things like that on the track it’s able to do so without upsetting traction.
Was curious if the Nova had been fixed. Nice work Champ. Nice pull on that. Thanks for the clutch plate and cannon info. Chewed the shit out of those plates. Lotsa load with the extra handful of nuts on the last pass??. I didn't think they broke down that far and chunked out. Hope you and Terry can can get out and make some laps.
Rob as always appreciate these videos so much. Odd question but wondering if you could answer. Have you ever heard the name Jack Phenagar (pretty sure last name is spelled correct). He used to live by me years ago and i heard he was either a chassis guy or head guy for pretty sure top fuel scene. Was always curious if it was true.
Rob will you be in Indy even if the car isn't?
Question, back in the 1960's and 70's they they tried using a fluid coupling and torque convertor, what happened ???
First, I really hope Terry gets a long-term deal and the team can get back to running some rounds. Leah's car looked like it folded vertically but that new brace is for horizontal movement. Did her car intially have a lower rail fold in allowing an upper rail to bend and fail downward? Are the clamps on the Leah & X braces regular worm gear clamps?
Have you considered running your stators through a surface grinder?
This channels awesome Rob, gotta ask what's the future of the nhra looking like in regards to nitro engines ?
Does anyone specifically build 300" chassis anymore like hadman or Mckinney, or are teams just building their own?
Cool video ! As always I learn so much from your content !! Clutches are b--!! Anyways. Tks for content bro !!👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for watching!
Please talk about dry sump oil in your engine
What effect do you think the switch to an .065 front half will have on the cars? Are any of the teams currently running the new spec?
The only car that has been ran is the one that I built for Larry Dixon two weekends ago. It absolutely was a carbon copy run install no difference but they were things done in the way it was built that I believe helps with flexibility. Great question!
Thank You**
Thank you for watching!
Just curious, do you miss driving any at all?
Fuck yeah!!! Lol
@@robwendland thought you did!!
Which did you like the most?
You know something bad happened when a frame rail gets named after you. 😬
You got that right🤣🤣
Is traction control allowed on these cars?
No it is not!
The traction control is not hitting the go pedal. Other than that, you’re at the mercy of everything and hopefully the tires hook up.
The traction control is not hitting the go pedal. Other than that, you’re at the mercy of everything and hopefully the tires hook up.
@@Tim.1113 Imagine how fast they would be if traction control were allowed. A computer could monitor wheel slip and modulate the clutch faster than any human to keep the wheels at the slip percentage that gives the most acceleration without allowing uncontrolled spin.
Like a fucking rocket! We need to figure out a way to get my boss man to sponsor you guys, I know it's about half of what we paid the other guys that stiffed us
Lemme get this straight.....there are 8 flow valves to one cannon controlling 16 clutch fingers??! Where do the weights come into play?
His mix @ 90%?
Little more…..😀
and here i am getting all hot and bothered about having to change my clutch out every 100,000 k's
Yeah.... Remembering poor Al Hoffman. All of his sponsors dropped him and he was running off budget. He let force get into his head. RIP Al.
Fortunately the first thing I ever did was clutching a fuel car so I never put disks in backwards, but it is racing and shit happens :-)
I bet everyone was through the moon finally getting over 260 mile per hour! That is definitely a magic number for that type of car :-)
Stop Takening a Wage out of it and spending money on STUPID stuff??