Clarifications from a well knowledgeable Sonic fan to help clear things up (even though most people in the comments probably already have lol) along with some fun facts: - Try not to take EVERY detail about this game as fact, the canon of the game is a bit dubious with details here and there -- Listing the ones that I have issue with that would cause canonicity problems that are presented during the segments in this episode in case there are more parts: --- The idea of Amy having backup hammers, because she normally just summons her hammer out of literal "hammer space" --- The train they're on being made as is 32 years ago (unless the train had decent tech a long while ago and it was simply upgraded at some point, otherwise is just more than likely a meta joke on the fact the franchise is 32 years old) --- While yeah, Shadow tends to be labeled as "The Ultimate Lifeform" and it IS true to an extent, technically Shadow labels Sonic as it by a realization in the final boss section of Adventure 2, it's not well known because it's a slightly hidden dialogue option due to only being shown up if you want around a long time for the boss fight - The name of the train "The Mirage Express" is due to the train being on the same island that was featured in Sonic CD and Sonic 4, the latter being that you explored the actual land mass surrounding Never Lake where Little Planet (the level locations (Zones) for CD) being named "Mirage Island", it's the big chain that Eggman originally used to hold Little Planet in place back in CD you see outside of the Saloon Car window - The chili dog thing has always been kind of present, it never really went away - Player character: The game code and promotional trailer label him as "Barry", he's a quokka - Rouge: Her name is based on the color, not "Rogue", but she does tend to be thiefy, her whole thing is that she's a jewel thief/treasure hunter and a spy who works with Shadow for G.U.N. - Knuckles' hat is based on the one he has in the OVA, the hat has made a couple of cameos here and there in recent Sonic related games and media and has had multiple different designs - Green guy: Vector the Crocodile, head and face of the Chaotix Detective Agency - Purple "rhino": Espio the Chameleon, and no his name is more for "espionage", not ESP, that's more Silver the Hedgehog's power set, and yeah the reason he looks like a fancy European (poet) is due to dressing up for the party, these arent their regular outfits for any of the characters - Vector and Espio originally come from an early game named "Knuckles' Chaotix" along with another member of the Chaotix Detective Agency, Charmy Bee, their youngest member, the modern incarnation of Team Chaotix comes from Sonic Heroes - Blaze the Cat is mostly from Sonic '06, Rush, and Rush Adventure with other appearances here and there - Chaos Cola is more just a random soda brand that was made in Sonic Adventure, more just a "brand" easter egg than anything - The "Shadow has coffee beans raw" thing comes from one of the Sonic Twitter Takeovers - I do like the thought of the idea of the murder victim being different each time but sadly it's not, this game is a much more linear story based experience - The green bird pictured is called a Flicky, they're one of the tiny animals you would rescue from destroying the robots (Badniks) in the levels (Acts) - Yeah, the color of the border for the text would probably help - Also the whole thing of Tails being the lead, not really, he's still kind of relying on us to do stuff (although that's mostly due to gameplay) XD - Tails' cast iron is mostly from the recent tails Tube episodes where he's shown to cook meals for Sonic occasionally when he visits Tails' workshop - They said the detective (Tails) and the reporter (Amy) for the game can't be the suspect - Barry mentioning endless runner games is mostly in reference to the same kind of mobile games that are out right now (Sonic Runners, Sonic Dash, & Sonic Forces Speed Battle) - The DreamGear is a combo reference, it's a mix of the Dreamcast console and the Game Gear handheld - Rings, not coins, coins are Mario - Sonic is doing the family guy death pose meme, this is the second time the pose was used in something Sonic related, previously it showed up in one of the recent comic (IDW) issues by a character in it named "Surge the Tenrec" doing the pose - The general design of the Saloon is based on the Mirage Saloon Zone level from Mania - Super Monkey Ball is the name of another one of Sega's game properties - If you need to, you can go into the options and turn on both invincibility and remove pits to make the runner segments easier - Yall are giving the game too much credit on how complex the murder mystery is XD
I mean, I see no issue with Shadow calling himself Ultimate Life form. I mean, I'm not sure but doesn't he refer to himself by that in like, Sonic Heroes, and 06?
@@leritykay8911 It's been a bit so MAYBE, but I mostly remember it being a case of everyone else calls him that but he didn't outwardly state it himself, like he didn't OWN it. I don't remember the details in '06 but in Heroes he had amnesia the whole time It's debatable how severe it was because there are moments in it where he seems to act like he remembers some things but the amnesia is on full force in his title game (what I've started calling "Shadow '05"), which would most likely be the place where he would restate it himself, but even then the canon of the game is dubious due to Last Story having elements from each branch where some are impossible to be there in comparison to others. And even then, the idea of the end of the game is him putting his past behind him, although in my opinion he took it a step too far and rounded about being a complete introvert again. Granted in my head it was a phase of depression where he wanted to be free of the responsibilities of being the planet's protector and wanted to die in battle, at least with how early IDW was depicting him, thankfully that should be changing in the future where he's a lot more like how most Shadow fans want him to act like how he does here, where even if he's introverted, he still cares about his friends and is very much a hero. Even going so far as to actually try to be a social person considering what I think part of Maria's wish for him was not JUST to give the people a chance, but to actually be a part of them and live a life, not be like how they were on the Ark where they were very much isolated from everyone.
@@toonman5099 I mean yeah. I also remember his characterization in Sonic Battle I like that. But I think that, wether Shadow accepts his past or not, he IS the Ultimate life form. Or at least, he was created as one. I think that in Battle, Shadow laments that he was created as an ultimate weapon, but then decides that he can both be a good guy AND the ultimate Life Form. And he ultimately decides that this applies to Emerl too. But I dunno that's how I remember it.
@@nancyguenette6898 yeah i know but i just felt like it makes sense if i said stickfigures instead of like saying red yellow green blue tsc etc etc yk?
This was a fun murder mystery, you guys should do more like this or better what about an escape room, we will test your intelligence. You can also play with others with the murder mystery. And that reminds me, Alan, alot of people are wondering, when will you make a new episode? You've been making shorts they said. And they probably expect a continuation to the previous episode.
He sent out a "story" post recently (or whatever they're called) about an AvA the team's been working on about a year. The 20-ish minute ones are still called shorts, as in cinematic shorts, so I think it'll be one of those.
me: rouge google: you said orange me: no i said r- google: O R A N G E alan: how did rouge get misheard as orange? me: its because i was saying rouge's name....you know...the bat? the bat that has lipstick and was a fashion tycoon role in the murder of sonic the hedgehog? alan: oh.....but its pronounced like the original word? me: no it isnt alan: my whole life is a lie
I was sooo excited to see you play a Sonic game, and I can’t wait for the next episode of this great play through. Also bat lady’s name is Rouge, like the color or the makeup, not rogue, just to let you know. 😊
@@jappyproductions4429 There is a place called the story section on youtube, but it can only be seen on the phone, not viewed from the pc, here the field announced that the next episode will be ava shorts
Is this an official sega game? Mann im dead 💀 Edit: 38:07 "Arcade machine has been added to inventory" BRO HOW DID HE MANAGE TO PUT THE ENTIRE MACHINE ONTO HIS POCKET???? Animal crossing logic:
it makes sense why Charmy Bee and Cream arent present in this, they are too young. then again, one of the sonic handbooks states that Tails is canonically 8 years old. but Cream and Charmy Bee are technically 6 years old. we know Cream's mom would be taking care of her, but then who is taking care of Charmy? is he just running around like a goofball?
My mom eats coffee beans raw just like Shadow 😭 Also, I really loved this game! I downloaded it pretty late---Only a few weeks ago, and I loved it! They even had the Chaotix in it (and somehow Amy roped Shadow into this and got him to dress up...), And I love how you get to communicate with each character. The artstyle is amazing as well!
If you guys really loved Undertale, I feel as though you guys would enjoy Everhood. Fair warning though, it is quite the emotional rollercoaster, so please be in a clear headspace before playing it.
I always forgot that Charii5 voiced all the characters in his video so well and then i watch someone else and its like "why dont they have voice acting on- *oh.*"
This is a really interesting game. I like how there’s detective work as I enjoy these types of games back in my childhood years. It’s nice seeing you guys playing and having fun together. 👍
Who murdered sonic the hedgehog will Rouge find what she was looking for will knuckles ever get top score on super monkey ball find out next time on who murdered sonic the hedgehog 49:24
I liked it! And did you guys make fnaf security breach videos after the daycare? I coulsnt find all the videos if you stopped playing security breach please continue it!
Fun fact: in a sonic Twitter takeover shadow says he prefers to eat the coffee beans instead of making them into coffee, thats why he says he just need the coffee beans and a spoon in this
SEGA really pulled off the greatest April Fools joke with this one.
I'm expecting a tweeter takeover with probably everyone that appeared, except it's unlikely
Ikr
@@lycrowkurato that would be super dope, but it probably just be sonic tails knuckles amy potential the conductor and shadow
This isn't the first time Sega's done this. Christmas Nights was also free for Christmas back in the 90s. Kind of cool.
Imagine if it were canon
Vector: Hey, I lost my ticket could you help me find it?
Alan: Welp, guess we got all the tickets. 🙂
Clarifications from a well knowledgeable Sonic fan to help clear things up (even though most people in the comments probably already have lol) along with some fun facts:
- Try not to take EVERY detail about this game as fact, the canon of the game is a bit dubious with details here and there
-- Listing the ones that I have issue with that would cause canonicity problems that are presented during the segments in this episode in case there are more parts:
--- The idea of Amy having backup hammers, because she normally just summons her hammer out of literal "hammer space"
--- The train they're on being made as is 32 years ago (unless the train had decent tech a long while ago and it was simply upgraded at some point, otherwise is just more than likely a meta joke on the fact the franchise is 32 years old)
--- While yeah, Shadow tends to be labeled as "The Ultimate Lifeform" and it IS true to an extent, technically Shadow labels Sonic as it by a realization in the final boss section of Adventure 2, it's not well known because it's a slightly hidden dialogue option due to only being shown up if you want around a long time for the boss fight
- The name of the train "The Mirage Express" is due to the train being on the same island that was featured in Sonic CD and Sonic 4, the latter being that you explored the actual land mass surrounding Never Lake where Little Planet (the level locations (Zones) for CD) being named "Mirage Island", it's the big chain that Eggman originally used to hold Little Planet in place back in CD you see outside of the Saloon Car window
- The chili dog thing has always been kind of present, it never really went away
- Player character: The game code and promotional trailer label him as "Barry", he's a quokka
- Rouge: Her name is based on the color, not "Rogue", but she does tend to be thiefy, her whole thing is that she's a jewel thief/treasure hunter and a spy who works with Shadow for G.U.N.
- Knuckles' hat is based on the one he has in the OVA, the hat has made a couple of cameos here and there in recent Sonic related games and media and has had multiple different designs
- Green guy: Vector the Crocodile, head and face of the Chaotix Detective Agency
- Purple "rhino": Espio the Chameleon, and no his name is more for "espionage", not ESP, that's more Silver the Hedgehog's power set, and yeah the reason he looks like a fancy European (poet) is due to dressing up for the party, these arent their regular outfits for any of the characters
- Vector and Espio originally come from an early game named "Knuckles' Chaotix" along with another member of the Chaotix Detective Agency, Charmy Bee, their youngest member, the modern incarnation of Team Chaotix comes from Sonic Heroes
- Blaze the Cat is mostly from Sonic '06, Rush, and Rush Adventure with other appearances here and there
- Chaos Cola is more just a random soda brand that was made in Sonic Adventure, more just a "brand" easter egg than anything
- The "Shadow has coffee beans raw" thing comes from one of the Sonic Twitter Takeovers
- I do like the thought of the idea of the murder victim being different each time but sadly it's not, this game is a much more linear story based experience
- The green bird pictured is called a Flicky, they're one of the tiny animals you would rescue from destroying the robots (Badniks) in the levels (Acts)
- Yeah, the color of the border for the text would probably help
- Also the whole thing of Tails being the lead, not really, he's still kind of relying on us to do stuff (although that's mostly due to gameplay) XD
- Tails' cast iron is mostly from the recent tails Tube episodes where he's shown to cook meals for Sonic occasionally when he visits Tails' workshop
- They said the detective (Tails) and the reporter (Amy) for the game can't be the suspect
- Barry mentioning endless runner games is mostly in reference to the same kind of mobile games that are out right now (Sonic Runners, Sonic Dash, & Sonic Forces Speed Battle)
- The DreamGear is a combo reference, it's a mix of the Dreamcast console and the Game Gear handheld
- Rings, not coins, coins are Mario
- Sonic is doing the family guy death pose meme, this is the second time the pose was used in something Sonic related, previously it showed up in one of the recent comic (IDW) issues by a character in it named "Surge the Tenrec" doing the pose
- The general design of the Saloon is based on the Mirage Saloon Zone level from Mania
- Super Monkey Ball is the name of another one of Sega's game properties
- If you need to, you can go into the options and turn on both invincibility and remove pits to make the runner segments easier
- Yall are giving the game too much credit on how complex the murder mystery is XD
WOW this is so much information, I hope AVG reads all of this!
@@abigailhedderly4978 There's a lot going on for the game, and this is only for what was presented in this early part of the game. XD
I mean, I see no issue with Shadow calling himself Ultimate Life form. I mean, I'm not sure but doesn't he refer to himself by that in like, Sonic Heroes, and 06?
@@leritykay8911 It's been a bit so MAYBE, but I mostly remember it being a case of everyone else calls him that but he didn't outwardly state it himself, like he didn't OWN it. I don't remember the details in '06 but in Heroes he had amnesia the whole time It's debatable how severe it was because there are moments in it where he seems to act like he remembers some things but the amnesia is on full force in his title game (what I've started calling "Shadow '05"), which would most likely be the place where he would restate it himself, but even then the canon of the game is dubious due to Last Story having elements from each branch where some are impossible to be there in comparison to others.
And even then, the idea of the end of the game is him putting his past behind him, although in my opinion he took it a step too far and rounded about being a complete introvert again. Granted in my head it was a phase of depression where he wanted to be free of the responsibilities of being the planet's protector and wanted to die in battle, at least with how early IDW was depicting him, thankfully that should be changing in the future where he's a lot more like how most Shadow fans want him to act like how he does here, where even if he's introverted, he still cares about his friends and is very much a hero. Even going so far as to actually try to be a social person considering what I think part of Maria's wish for him was not JUST to give the people a chance, but to actually be a part of them and live a life, not be like how they were on the Ark where they were very much isolated from everyone.
@@toonman5099 I mean yeah. I also remember his characterization in Sonic Battle I like that.
But I think that, wether Shadow accepts his past or not, he IS the Ultimate life form. Or at least, he was created as one.
I think that in Battle, Shadow laments that he was created as an ultimate weapon, but then decides that he can both be a good guy AND the ultimate Life Form. And he ultimately decides that this applies to Emerl too.
But I dunno that's how I remember it.
I just love how Alan's stickfigures are in every thumable
They have names ya know
@@nancyguenette6898 yeah i know but i just felt like it makes sense if i said stickfigures instead of like saying red yellow green blue tsc etc etc yk?
I did not expect you guys to play this! Loved your reactions and especially Alan's voice acting!!
You guys should do something like this again :D
This was a fun murder mystery, you guys should do more like this or better what about an escape room, we will test your intelligence. You can also play with others with the murder mystery. And that reminds me, Alan, alot of people are wondering, when will you make a new episode? You've been making shorts they said. And they probably expect a continuation to the previous episode.
Imagine if they played the Rusty Lake games, they should definitely try The Past Within
He sent out a "story" post recently (or whatever they're called) about an AvA the team's been working on about a year. The 20-ish minute ones are still called shorts, as in cinematic shorts, so I think it'll be one of those.
@@gaelonhays1712 oh, I didn't see that , thank for the info
The way they pronounce rouge like rogue is hilarious! Great vid
I used to say it like that too, then I realized it’s pronounced rouge like the makeup.
Yeah I learned Rouge is pronounced rouge instead of rouge, it's kind of like rouge but instead of rouge it's actually rouge.
It's pronounced rooge
No it wasn’t
I always thought of it as Rouge like the color, as in a dark red. That's what helped me remember the correct pronunciation for her name.
The first interaction between the MC and Tails was so wholesome 🥺
me: rouge
google: you said orange
me: no i said r-
google: O R A N G E
alan: how did rouge get misheard as orange?
me: its because i was saying rouge's name....you know...the bat? the bat that has lipstick and was a fashion tycoon role in the murder of sonic the hedgehog?
alan: oh.....but its pronounced like the original word?
me: no it isnt
alan: my whole life is a lie
Why were you RPing with yourself
I was sooo excited to see you play a Sonic game, and I can’t wait for the next episode of this great play through. Also bat lady’s name is Rouge, like the color or the makeup, not rogue, just to let you know. 😊
Hello there.
-Obi Wan
Them voice acting, I want to cry. 😢
Except Sonic, Alan does good.
AVG PLAYS A SONIC GAME!!!! OH MY GOSH!!! Now you need to play more!
Lore wise it's obvious that Rouge was with Knuckles because she always like to tease him everytime
Glad to see one of my favourite animators playing one of the games of my favourite game series!
When will the new episode of Alan AVA shorts come? I saw your story. You worked for it for exactly 1 year.
I think it's coming tomorow.
@@SaraG_TheAlicorn so you've seen the story too
@@animatörünoyunckatölyesi Ofc I did.
@@animatörünoyunckatölyesiwhat’s the story?
@@jappyproductions4429 There is a place called the story section on youtube, but it can only be seen on the phone, not viewed from the pc, here the field announced that the next episode will be ava shorts
Is this an official sega game? Mann im dead 💀
Edit: 38:07 "Arcade machine has been added to inventory" BRO HOW DID HE MANAGE TO PUT THE ENTIRE MACHINE ONTO HIS POCKET???? Animal crossing logic:
It is an official Sega game for April fools. Best part i think it's free on Steam. Steam only. Only steam. Nowhere else. But Steam. Steam. For pc.
Sonic wanted the train to go fast
It’s a great April Fools joke for Sega!
it makes sense why Charmy Bee and Cream arent present in this, they are too young. then again, one of the sonic handbooks states that Tails is canonically 8 years old.
but Cream and Charmy Bee are technically 6 years old. we know Cream's mom would be taking care of her, but then who is taking care of Charmy? is he just running around like a goofball?
36:09
*_wheeze_*
Can't wait for the second episode of this!! Loved it!
They better play more ya know
My mom eats coffee beans raw just like Shadow 😭
Also, I really loved this game! I downloaded it pretty late---Only a few weeks ago, and I loved it! They even had the Chaotix in it (and somehow Amy roped Shadow into this and got him to dress up...), And I love how you get to communicate with each character. The artstyle is amazing as well!
Alan is a top tier voice actor
I LOVE IT!!! Please continue the game!!
I love how this is just Soinc x Ace Attorney lmao.
If you guys really loved Undertale, I feel as though you guys would enjoy Everhood.
Fair warning though, it is quite the emotional rollercoaster, so please be in a clear headspace before playing it.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Play more Sonic games now.
Finally they are playing sonic games
Also I love Beyblade and Murder Drones
@@arpitupadhyay1535 Same, but I don't watch SMG4
Oh yeessss I was sooo excited to see them play a Sonic game. I can’t wait for the next episode of this play through!
Omg I freaking love your vids 🤩
awesome vid!
I like that Blaze is a princess and Alan bowed before her and she was like, “What the-“ 😅😅😂
I always forgot that Charii5 voiced all the characters in his video so well and then i watch someone else and its like "why dont they have voice acting on- *oh.*"
31:03 sonic is lying down like the Peter griffin meme
Sega really got us with this one
“Road was in here to” 💀
This is a really interesting game. I like how there’s detective work as I enjoy these types of games back in my childhood years. It’s nice seeing you guys playing and having fun together. 👍
Yo I didn't know you played games I thought you just made animations!!!
Who murdered sonic the hedgehog will Rouge find what she was looking for will knuckles ever get top score on super monkey ball find out next time on who murdered sonic the hedgehog 49:24
Alan’s VA work is incredible.
Ironic
I liked it! And did you guys make fnaf security breach videos after the daycare? I coulsnt find all the videos if you stopped playing security breach please continue it!
Ah, the chili dogs. *I'm WAITING!*
This Gives Me A Hat In Time Vibes
Is, is this a joke on the great ace attorney? If so that is HILARIOUS.
You guys interacting with Espio and Rouge h u r t s me
Sonic Forces: Murder Mystery Edition
.000000000001 seconds in and only seeing the thumbnail, there is already a family guy death pose lol.
18:14 The only TH-camrs mature enough to not reach for low hanging fruit
I Realized, In the Thumbnail, Sonic Death Pose is a reference to Family Guy.
the game was actually really fun, i beat the game and it was pretty good!
You guys should totally finish the game.
Bro why doesn't Nintendo ever do this?? Sega went all out for april fools.
Can't believe i just watched this in one sitting. And i don't regret it at all😉
PART 2 PLEEEEEASE
I just realized that Sonic was doing the family guy death pose
do more of this pls (I subbed)
I love watching this because I can clearly tell you guys aren't sonic fans
Not gonna lie, this is a solid game, and rivals the quality of other games.
You guys finally played this-
This is why there was a poll
3:12 ok Alan the way to pronounce her is not "row-juh" it's "roo-juh".
THIS GAME IS SO.... GOOD!
How did you forget that sony clubs chili dogs that's literally only what he eats at every cartoon in every movie
Fun fact: in a sonic Twitter takeover shadow says he prefers to eat the coffee beans instead of making them into coffee, thats why he says he just need the coffee beans and a spoon in this
I like how Alan doesn't pronounce Rouge correctly.
To be honest I my new favorite character is Barry The Quokka
Hi this is cool I was in time
He show dog in end oh video it so cute
3:41 it’s Pronounced Rouge not rogue
Wow, Rowlo is huge 😮 And still adorable 😍
Play more please I like this.
SONIC ARE YOU OKAY 😢
GO DJ
Alan,do anamation vs roblox next
If your wondering espio is a chameleon
Sick Sonic voice
I'm interested in the story play more
Its shadow
dj and me knuckles buddies
Bro really said rogue it’s rouge
But that is funny
yoooo, can u play boomerang fu? It’s really fun!!!
Im re-watching sonic underground
Bro I thought Tails Story was he got bullied then Sonic ran by
Yo
DO MORE
Hey
Pls play landfall archives it's another game by the creators of rounds, tabs and stick fight.
Would you please play oneshot and there are secrets
early gang
Yep
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Ah so that concludes the life of-
Sonic the deadhog
You guys think you can make a Vs animation against sega?
No
i love sonic and tails and amy
Pls do more doors
Hellooo
Now I wanna see them play danganronpa XD
Would there be more ainmation???
can you play it again for part 2 please?
oh god they pronounced Rouge wrong...
Play back goat simulator please I see the ending it's cool
I really wish you guys would play smash bros someday or rounds again someday
Seems I'm here fairly early.
Continue more undertale 4 player genocide