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- The Lenovo x3850 M2 is a very affordable server! These has been seen down to $200 with the configuration that I show in this video.
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After I made this video, the x3850 M2 got very popular, and prices went up, and often they are sold out.
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My PlayHouse is a channel where i will show, what i am working on. I have this house, it is 168 Square Meters / 1808.3ft² and it is full, of half-finished projects.
I love working with heating, insulation, Servers, computers, Datacenter, green power, alternative energy, solar, wind and more. It all costs, but I'm trying to get the most out of my money, and my time.
I am an IT Consultant, also a programmer since 1969 FORTRAN, COBOL originally when I was a senior in high school.... I'm really OLD....
Anyway I worked for a while at a server farm, and i learned that most servers run 80GB HD
because that is the optimal speed for them, actually this server you had in your hand is probably a set of 10 servers, also speed is 15000 rpm, they are expensive, and they used a fiber optic connector for the network. I know that the RAM is also special, 128gb for the new servers is about 15,000 USD
The data is stored in storage and backup servers that usually have more than 400 80gb each one is about $200 each HD, and they in turn connected to a robotic virtual backup server.
All data centers are different, they may have higher capacity drives, depending on what they actually do.
My knowledge is from ONE data center I worked at for a little while, most of my life I worked for myself.
Loved the 775 to 771 CPU exchange
Hi
This Enterprise equipment drops so fast in price,,, from $10.000 ro $200 in four - five years.
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Can you always power up the gear preferably before a tear down. It's always very interesting to hear the start up sound and see the light sequences and boot screens etc Un-powered gear is like dead scrap. Anyway thank you for posting, interesting looking server.
Hi +Coolkeys2009
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Great server dissection anatomy class. Good description of the models too @13:27 min.Very well done job and thanks for your effort.
Hi Sam Sen
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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I want one, but I don't know what I would use it for.
HI
Figure that out first, and let's then see if this is the best server for you! :-)
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Hi *****
I am afraid they got sold out after my video..
keep an eye out!
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freeman239 well said can UNIX still light wave XSat police too sim policies as VMware without ESXi ?
hahaha same here lol
Just get one. It's called playing and hobby. By definition playing is the absence of purpose. Just having fun. Or are you also a fundamentalist who only has sex to make babies? You can play around with virtualization software on this shit or try to see how good some server software scales .... just check all this "virtualisation home lab" videos here on youtube
Put a little Electrical Tape on the Handel's, Stops the knocking sounds, have a few of them in a rack and they clank with the system Vibrations .. Tape then metal up..
Perfect for a test server to learn on! and even use for video rendering :) I personally use a HP DL380 G6 with 2x E5620 8C/16T with 104GB ram, SSD boot drive and a RAID 5 with 5x146GB SAS and its fast with Hyper V!
E5620 is 4 core
@@leonardotoschi585 yes - but there are two of them so 8 cores
@@keanankruse ok, still responding after 5 yrs
Hey Morton! I was just watching a documentary of the state of electronics as a hobby in Australia, and it played your music. This reminded me that there are a few videos of yours that I haven't watched yet. :-)
I'm not sure if you have any interest in the nostalgia of old electronics shops (mostly closed now due to the availability of cheap components direct from China), but if you are then you might like to look at the channel State of Electronics.
Don't worry, those videos of yours I haven't watched yet are on my list and I will watch and like them. I am already a subscriber. ;-)
Hi charmanr
Thank You very much! I try not to be collecting old,, but useful stuff.
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Hey there, absolutely love your channel. Its really cool to see how big of a system you can setup in a household. I actually have a bit of a question for you, if you have some time. I work as a computational chemist here in the United States, and we use a software called GROMACS to run protein simulations. Recently, I managed to acquire 15 NVIDIA GTX 760 graphics cards for cheap, and I figured this would be the perfect time to build a computation farm like how I've been wanting to for a few years now. Unfortunately, I'm very new to server hardware. I know that its rare to find older hardware that has PCI-E x16 board edge connectors, so I'm really excited to see how your experiment goes with the x16-to-x8 adapter. Do you have any preliminary results that you'd be willing to share?
My main question is, would you happen to know of any older servers that you feel would be well suited for housing double-width graphics cards? I've been looking on eBay for some cheap deals. I found a nice lot of HP ProLiant DL380 G7 and G6, do you think they would be good for GPU housing? I also found some x3650 M2 and M3s, not sure if those would be better. My main issue is the PCIe x16 thing, but if the adapter works well, then simply finding servers that can fit the cards becomes the problem (I already plan on having external power supplies for the cards, since I doubt I'll be able to find servers that can power 2-3 cards at a time.)
Also, for a beginner storage solution, what would you recommend? (I probably only need 5-10 TB of storage max, but I'd definitely like it setup in RAID so I don't loose any valuable simulation data). Thank you for your time, and thank you for all your awesome videos! I hope that you keep finding awesome deals on equipment!
Hi Jon
Thanx for movin you question in here.
Putting a GPU in a server is a rather new thing,,, so there is not a lot of old server equipment available for it. To put in those NVIDIA GTX 760 graphics cards,, you need a lot of space and power in the server ,,both the 6 pin and the 8 pin power connector.
That removes the x3650 M2 and M3 from your list :-/
I think you get to this cheapest by setting up the 15 cards out side the servers,,,somthing like this : th-cam.com/video/TtBw_p_NU00/w-d-xo.html
For you storages,,, this is a cheat solution : th-cam.com/video/nlT85Xf1AsQ/w-d-xo.html and install it with VM-ware ESXi 6.0 and make a virtual storages server with XPenology like i do here: th-cam.com/video/_QRCOTUSy5o/w-d-xo.html
And it can run a lot more VM's for you :-)
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Love the videos man!! U currently got me upgrading some older Dell's with the x5450 xenons n another with a q6600 ...just upgrading 4 the kids ...I got a ryzen 7 1700 with gtx 1070 n a 2700x with a ttc 2060 but I will never get tired of messing with the older pc's ...thanks for all the tech help!
Hi jason wilbur
Thank You very much! glad you liked the videos :-)
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What do you use the servers for?
Wow, this is awesome. If they didn't suck power like chrome sucks RAM, it would be a great deal :)
Hi +Jeremy Scalpello
Yes the spec's are so awesome,, but it is a power sucking beast. But it's a cool toy!
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Sweet, I like the on board SAS connection and the onboard features. Not a big IBM fan but I do like those features.
Hi Leadius USA
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As they don’t do Hyperthreading and has ddr2, they are usually outperformed by many x56 servers. The consume a lot of power
Hi MojangYang YAN0014
Thank You very much! Yes Time has past for this model.
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Thats a lot of hardware for the price! It's fun to experiment with. Great video.
Hi Scott x
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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Wow, what a fantastic machine. I'm seriously loving IBM more and more.
Hi +lightnlove
Welcome to the IBM/Lenovo Enterprise fan club :-)
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Sweet! When do I get my sponsorship paycheck? :)
Hi lightnlove
Invoice is in the mail :-)
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I like this video quite a bit, and thank you so much for your honesty about the server, its role, its cost to run, and so on, real refreshing.
Hi +Zeze Andjr
Thanx a lot!
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Really well made server! Talk about functional design!
Great video, I know it is old now but still points out what a great value old servers are for non prod environments. As of this writing in 2024 Gen9 similar spec are 125-150 usd amazing value!
It's a great toy,, not a 24/7 server. But a server to turn on and play with in like a weekend.
I like the look of this. What a beast. Great price I will keep an eye out for one. Thanks for sharing.
Hi +Wheel333
Thank you for watching! :-)
Morten, it would be great to see a video on how you mount the rack rails, especially the IBM ones. The HP rails work fine for me, but the IBM rails seem too short to mount them. Also, how do you lift up heavy servers like the x3850 into the rails all by yourself? I nearly broke my back putting up my DL580s... .
Keep up the good work, Morten!
HI
Well I do show that from time to time,, installing rails.
There is no easy way to install an IBM x3850 M2,,,,, it's just heavy as hell.
Go watch my older videos :-)
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There is a reason why they are getting cheap :) They are to expensive to have running. With a maximum watt draw of 2.8kWatt/hour under full hardware load they chew their way though the electric bill fast! Also for you yanks, when running with 120V mode the two power supplies are not redundant (as such), they are both powering the server at the same time (look it up in the install guide) so trying to change one under load would cripple the system unless you obey the limitations like only 2 cpu's and so on. So be warned, got cheap electricity - Then this might be for you ;)
Hi David Bjørnsten-Lindhard
It uses a bit of power,, around 5-600Watt
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Yeah 500Watt in idle to ... If you run all cores at 50% you are already way above 1kWatt.
David Bjørnsten-Lindhard
No No No first two PSU at 1440W and they are redundant. Means that 1440W is absolute Max! and even that You will probably not be able to reach. 5-600W runinning.
IBM says so them selves. And also at 110V they are NOT redundant very important for all them Yanks. Check IBM Redpaper (IBM System x3950 M2 and x3850 M2 Technical Introduction) where they tell this. Also in the IBM System x3850 M2 / x3950 M2 Product guide, they state that the CPUs can draw 130W each. So that's already 520Watt, then 4 x SAS HDD+Raid controller, Coolers and so on. Not a cheap system to run.
the processor max out 130W doesn't mean that you computer always be like that
except you got heavy loading 24x7 fullload
then you will got near 520 watt on processor consumption
I was also wondering how much electricity do you pay every month since you have a server room
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I have a F.A.Q. under the about tab,, where i answered this,, not in numbers.
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Thanks for a very good in-depth overview of what seems to be a great server for a low price!
You mentioned it wasn't really a good choice for someone at home just trying to do backups and data storage. What system might you suggest for all that plus home local cloud and home video surveillance security with notifications?
I'm really liking your videos and you do an excellent job of explaining things which keeps me very interested! Thanks again!
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My favoured server is the IBM X3650 M1,, and with VM-ware ESXi 6.0 and XPEnology it would do your job :-)
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I just bought this server! I cant wait! Thanks so much!
Hi The Bang4Buck Gamer
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-) I have made more videos about it.
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these IBM 1366 servers are awesome...even CPU prices are cheap for upgrading purposes...I'm in the process of getting my x3650 m2 loaded...bought 4 SSDs for a RAID 10....just need to get 64gb memory now
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That is cool,,, it´s good value for the money!
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Have a DELL PowerEdge T430 and it actually has 2 designated x16 PCI-e slots and there is also 2 PCI-e power connector for any graphic cards that use that, which is all modern. I was surprised to say the least. I'm in full mode to install a graphic card in it for fun and test to see if it work to play om. Most likely won't be able to utilize anymore than 1 cpu or the two but would be fun to test anyway. And it is also so free in the chassi where the cards would go that a graphic card could be almost long as the entire computer, you don't see that in a home pc.
Hi dtiydr
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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And 4 years later i'm here and can say that server has never become that cheap again.
No ,, and I am probably to blame :-/ this video made it popular. and there was never that many.
What a coincidence hahaha, will check the video this evening! Do you have any tips or videos about installing Exchange 2016 on server 2016 any chance? :-)
Hi Rudolf Pietersma
Yes I did also find it funny that you asked, and I ha just posted a video on some of that. I would expect that it will do exchange 2016 just fine,, but not something I know much about.
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Hey there, another good option that's dropping in price is the Dell PowerEdge R710. You can find them with 2x6 core xeons hyperthreaded, and around 72GB ddr3 ram for between 300-400$USD. Decent fans, 6 bay. I keep one in a rack in my bedroom it's so quite. Just food for thought.
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Okay,, I do not really know the Dell R710, But thanx for info.
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I wish I had a use for that much processing power. That looks like such a great value.
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Well it has an OFF, for when you do not need it :-)
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Here in The Netherlands we have a website called marktplaats which is basically a Dutch ebay (also actually from eBay) the only x3850 on there was 550€
Hi ATechGuy2016
Thank You very much! Yes Prices went up on that server after I made this video :-/ but : www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.XX3850+M2.TRS0&_nkw=X3850+M2&_sacat=0
there are some a little cheaper, but then there is shipping..
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That is one beautiful piece of computing machinery. Great video, look forward to more.
Hi Pin Head
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-) I have a lot more videos.
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any rack server is a drain on the watts and power bill. I got 1 running doing backup atm its loud as sh$%t! Sounds like a jet plane runs hot and lastly runs once a week to do backup only. Not a server i care to run 24/7. Always great video's Morten keep en coming. What databases do you run anyway?
Hi +Doomed ForLife
I am not running any DB's myself.
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Hey Morten, do you know if it is possible to put a 12 or 18 core Xeon processor(s) in the x3850 X5? Which ones are compatible and do they require a BIOS upgrade? Also, do you have a link to find bios upgrades (under ESXi) for the x3850 M2 and X5? Thanks a lot and keep up the great videos, so much better than Netflix!
The x3850 X5, Supports the Intel Xeon E7-2800, E7-4800 and E7-8800 families of high performance processors, up to 10 cores each, offering superior system performance.
ark.intel.com/products/series/53671/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-4800-Product-Family
I am only aware that they can do version 1 of the CPU's.
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+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) thanks a lot Morten!
Thank you very much sir. You are a great instructor. Your videos are just wonderful.
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it's really awesome to watch your videos, and you will becoming my HERO, but what exactly you do with your data center, like what service you are providing and what's your goal. just a bit of queries about your work and you. can you please make video on that. if possible please do that
Hi Woddy B
I do get this question from time to time, so I have added it to my F.A.Q. that you can check out under the "about" tab here on my channel. I give a longer answer there.
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I can confirm that this unit is a real power-hungry beast.
Time has not been kind,, :-/
Is that a 4U server? Looks real heavy to lift, so when it gonna be shipped it can be expensive.
What version of esxi hypervisor could be possible? 5 or 5.5?
Hi +Henk Kok
It takes up four units in a rack,, it is 4U high. Very heavy and expensive to ship. It should run ESXi 6.0,, I run mine on 5.5,, but just because I have not upgraded yet.
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Morten. I mqy ahve missed it, apologies it I did, but how much did your machine cost. Im based in the uk and the prices here are nowhere near $200. Thanks and great video.
Hi +BulletGaming012
Did you look? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IBM-X3850-M2-4U-RACKMOUNT-FILESERVER-4-X-QUAD-CORE-2-4GHZ-/252381123877?hash=item3ac3165525:g:yEQAAOSwxcRW~DV0
That is a bit smaller but not fare from.
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Yeah found it in the end, shame they arent the 6 core but never mind.
Hi BulletGaming012
Yes you need to be patient at get the right one.
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You can short the pcie connector from the graphics card. ( for instance, an AMD RX 460 doesn't even has no more then 8 pcie channels in use
A pcie slot supports normally 75W. Lot of more powerfull graphics cards, do yo use a PCIe power cable, being a 6 or 8 pin.
Hi Steven G
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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This unit looks like it could get pretty hot if stressed to use all 24 cores... Have you tested the heat level?
I do not think I ever did that.
Hi... thanks for the video... I work editing video, sometimes I need to connect 3 videocameras to a computer for switching between the cameras in alive; and as you see I need a super powerfull machine... I was going to buy a HP Z800 workstation refurbished but I just watched your video and I wonder... ¿This kind of servers will works fine for editing video? Could I to buy a Video tarjet NVidia Quadro 4000 for working with a Video Professional monitor?
Are these kind of Workstation very noise? or normal noise?
Hi Alfonso Galicia
Thank You very much! This model can somehow not be outfitted with a GPU,, I have tried and failed and others has to,,,failed.
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Is your network gigabit or 100mbps? Also whats the electricity cost for you at the playhouse.
Hi +thingyee1118
Congratulation on 200 subscribers! I have Gigabit network. I have made an FAQ,, please check it out,, I think question 4. answers some more.
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+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) 201 subscribers :-)
Hi Carsten Hansen
Yes so it seems! :-)
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Carsten Hansen My PlayHouse
Thank you both for the congratulation messages. Yes 201 subscribers. I plan to be making more videos soon. Ok Morten I will look at your FAQ :D
Very good F.A.Q My PlayHouse I like that you answered all the common questions. Hehe do you run at least 1 server 24/7? since you host a website on your datacenter right?
This would be nice for my planned webserver at home.
Hi lapp.tech
This,, is way overkill for a web server,,, well maybe if you have 100 virtual web servers on it.
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for using video card you only need cut the end plastc of motherboard, the gpu works well only lost 10 - 15 fps.
Hi Thiago Simões
Thank You very much! But I did try and : th-cam.com/video/BybMNiVxCi0/w-d-xo.html
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Wow you cut the GPU T_T ( Your monster), your motherboard have an white list pcie compatibility, most likely the same used in some laptops when we try put one E-GPU, i think you need edit de bios and remove that. Sorry my english i still learning.
Hi, great video☺.
I'll probably buy that server too.
Can you measure how much power it needs (watt) an make a cinebench please?
I do not recommend this one any more :-)
@@MyPlayHouse Thank you for your reply. I have bought one 380 g8 & G9. But on my G9 write speed on 24x raid6 12G SAs sucks....90MB/s
@@max17-c4f Could be bad or missing battery on the raid controller,, so it does not use the cache,, or it is disabled.
24 drives in one Raid6,, is a bit many,, Raid60 might be better performances wise,, but it might cost on capacity.
@@MyPlayHouse Thank you, yes i have no battery,... i'll buy one and tell you what happened
Are you excited for the new AMD Zen server processors that will have 32 real cores each? Also great video, I wanted to point out too that servers are extremely expensive here in Canada... Even those cheap ones.
Hi +KrakenTV
Yes,, I really hope the new AMD kicks ass,, Intel needs some competition.
But you can very often buy from the US,, we in Europe can't.
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Hello from Sweden. What server would you recomend today with the same or better spec? Any links?
You most likely want something newer,, this is old now :-)
The memory card latches are light pipes for the error leds
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Yes transparent plastic :-)
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Do you prefer IBM servers over HP and Dell? If yes, how so? I only had experience with Dell and HP so far. I wonder about the pro's and cons of IBM's.
Hi DrumdevilNL
Yes IBM/ Lenovo is my prefered brand,, it goes Lenovo, Dell and HPE,,,, I have worked 15 years with servers. I had the first dead Lenovo/IBM server last year,,, I have had 1-2 HPE's a year,, needing a new system board. Here in Denmark IBM does the services on Lenovo servers,,, and the services is SO good.
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My PlayHouse what’s your opinion on dells?
I have to ask. What are you doing with these servers. Not often some shows everything like you do. I am guesing you are doing MMO gaming severs. would i be correct.?
Hi jason puttock
I do get this question from time to time, so I have added it to my F.A.Q. that you can check out under the "about" tab here on my channel. I give a longer answer there.
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okay. ty. questions now. what does it take to make these types of servers into an MMO gaming station. cluster, CPU's and what not. I am learning about this the hard way. I am a gamer (light) but have noticed a big exploit in cash. For the likes of GTarcade which you can visit at any time. One game in particular is LOA. not 2 or 3 just LOA. this game was relicenced as chaos angels. Now there are two versions of the same game but different titles. If you check them out you will see what i mean. I hope you can see where I am goiing with this. Other companies are buying rights and sharing the same game. They make the money and extend later on. What I have noticed on your system is now you have the option to do just this. Make money and a bunch of it. All are under the game status of Rubies Gems or Diamonds. in this instance it is diamonds. Each batch is equal to the cost of $5 for 500 diamonds. Multiple this with 20 users. that is your cloud costs along with server in one month. these games are running atleast 100 people. most all buy some basic packages. you can work out the costs now to YOUR advantage. can you please make a video with this tought as your focus point. you have the setup and servers. whtat will it take to get it running and can you doit.? following with most interest.
I do believe a video card would work fine in the 8x slots of this server as long as it isnt overkill and needs plenty of supplemental power. But I can't see that happening since these slots are only half length
Hi +Andrew Bova (Andy)
Yes,, there is so many limitations in that regaut in this server. 25W per PCI, ½ length, PCI-E X8,,,,
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that chinese riser will only work with low power cards I mention on your other videos, gt 1030 and quadro p400, can you just install windows without virtualization?
Hi areavirtual3d
Thank You very much! but no wan has gotten a GPU to work in this server.
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Would a machine like this be good for handling intensive programming loops (AI routines, etc)? I am looking into getting a machine for a dedicated game server. It runs fine on my current machine, but I want room to grow and not have to worry about leaving the server open on my main PC.
Goalatio If your server is going to be 24/7 then go with a newer server because they are more power efficient. This server draws 5-600w during idle (if my knowledge is correct).
This Server is good for turning on and working/playing with it for some hours or a few days.
Hi Sir. I have a doubt, as is not possible have one of this where a live and for this amount of price, and for a basic 'learning' (for beginner), would a 771@775 Xeon four cores + 8Gb DDR2 be enough? I'm planning learn to use proxmox too, maybe it isn't enough yet for ESXi.
I know that there are milions os possibilities to use for, but i was planning run 'some vms', windows / personal cloud (OMV), basically, enter at this world.
I have a doubt (from a long time haha), with what do you exactly work? if you haven't did it yet, could you do a video talking about your work, how did you begin.
Wish you a happy new year, greetings and best wishes from Brazil (now you know why i can't have one of this for a 'low price' haha).
Hi Marek Grus
Thank You very much! I know that Brazil is a bad places for used hardware,, everything is so expensive.
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@@MyPlayHouse yes Sir. All is expensive but we do as is possible.
Thanks for all the videos, the're nice, greetings from Brazil
This is not cheap because the whole machine is on par with an i5 6600 but it consumes a load more power. If you are at the point where you need a dedicated server, you will need something more powerful. As it stands, those $200 are better spent on AWS or Azure. For about 2 times this price, you can get a decent piece of kit with two 6 core E56xx series hyperthreaded CPUs that will consume two times less power and have around twice the compute power.
HI
You are 100% right! This is not the best choose for your home 24/7 server. Just like NO ONE would EVER buy a Mustang sports car! it's to noisy, BAD gas miles, your not aloud to drive that fast anyway. bla bla
This is an awesome fun enterprise server to play with,, on a rainy day when the Mustang do not get out :-)
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Hej Morten! Cool video :D
Har du nogle fif til at finde billige gamle servere?
Et nyt kabinet koster jo aaalt for meget :-D
HI Emil Elkjær Nielsen
My channel is English, and to make sure as many as possible, can enjoy the comments they are also English.
So please keep to English.
Try Ebay germany www.ebay.de
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You didn't turn it on to show us how loud it is compared to say a boeing 747 at full takeoff thrust? (or even my little HP box that sounds like a harrier taking off while its posting?) :P Nice video mate - those IBM sleds are really well put together, and designed for easy maintenance :)
HI
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It's not that loud. A dell 730 is much louder, especially at startup.
Hey Morten,
We could really use a few dozen of those.
Do you have a direct link where we would purchase them?
+Roy Chartier Oh wait, NM, these use DDR2 and 10y/o Tigerton dual core Xeons.
Hi +Roy Chartier
No I do not have a "direct link" I would like to try it,, just for fun!
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Is there auxiliary power for graphics card? Couldn't really see any spare power dangling about...
Hi Baerchenization
take a look at this : th-cam.com/video/BybMNiVxCi0/w-d-xo.html
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do they have a servers like the one in this video that can do hyper threading with the option of adding game graphics cards or professional graphics cards? basically I'm trying to build a workstation that has 4 CPU Xeon Processors on a budget for 3d modeling with byper threading if possible. cheapest possible.
Hi Marcus Johnson
Thank You very much! see my newest video.. :-)
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great video.. got a question for you.. I have recently bought myself a Dell Poweredge 2950 Model 2, And everytime i boot it, it says "battery fault blah blah blah".... what does the internal battery pack actually do?
Because as far as i can tell, it doesnt do anything.. I can power my server off by the mains, and plug it back in 2 days later, and its all fine still.. cheerrs
Hi
Check if it's the little 2032 li-ion battery for the Bios,, they are so cheap that you just get a new one.
If it's the battery for the raid controller... they can be a bit expensive... so maybe make a Hack repair on that.
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yeah its the battery pack that connects into the PERC 5i controler, that the BIOS reports as dead/not connected..
I was planning on hacking it open and soldering in another LI-Ion pack..
But was wondering what its for?
I unplugged the server for over 1 week, and no settings had changed.
I used a volt meter to check the battery pack, it shows 0.30v so definately not taking any charge..
Thankyou for your help
Hi gamerdude1989
You get a lot better disk performances, with the raid controler battery.
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Heyhey,
Im looking forward to get a server to play arround with (get into linux server, using it to make a blender network-render cluster etc...learning new things). At that point i had allready made my choice to get a HP proliant DL580 G5 with 4x Xeon E7420 CPU's and 32 GB of RAM for 210€ after taxes. Thinking it was quite a good deal...but now, after seeing your video, im somehow unsure...maybe you could tell me what you think about the DL580 for that price? =)
Maybe you could start something like a video series of server harware you suggest? Like giving recommendations for file servers, host servers, render servers and so on? Would be great! Keep up your good work! =)
Hi David Seiwald
I am afraid I do not know the HP DL580 G5 :-/
If you want a cheap good server to play with. I made a video talking about that : th-cam.com/video/p2lGufUYIZw/w-d-xo.html
But if you want a 24/7 server that has to stay in your room under your bed :-) maybe go more this way : th-cam.com/video/TqoazLMZNXY/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for watching! :-)
Thank you very much =) i think i'll give the DL580 a try anyways (letting you know how it works if you are interested). Your recomendation is nice and propably the most versatile server you can get, but for my use case i am looking into something with more processing power. As it wont run 24/7 i dont mind the power consumption and the noise. =)
In a pinch, could you use a normal sata drive over what they come with? Or it doesn't work like that?
Hi +themaconeau
I must admit that I do not know :-/
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The LEDs for the RAM modules are under the translucent clips, IIRC. You'd need a fault so see ;)
Hi Karsten Winkovics
Thank You very much!
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how much energy does it draw compared to a custom built desktop. Is your energy bill a lot higher.
Hi jay mo
It uses to much power to be a 24/7 server,, but to power it on to play with an evening a week , does not really matter much.
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Love your channel and your looks at older hardware. I have lots of old servers sitting around. I wish you would run some benchmarks on them as compared to more modern hardware. Also software that might be useful for small business. Open source most likely. Best uses to put these guys back to work. Thanks again for all your work!
Hi +Kerry Kesner
Thanx,, It is really hard to do it all,, I do what I can,, so you must do the rest :-)
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Would this model be suitable for mild game server hosting (specifically CSGO and other valve games)? I am currently looking into buying a dedicated server but I am at a loss when it comes to deciding on the correct model.
Hi Kasper Holm Hansen
I really do not know,, what would you expect from a game server?
Thank you for watching! :-)
Normally I'd say one core and one gigabyte of ram per server, but it fluctuates a lot depending on plugins, the amount of players per server and tick-rate (update rate for player positions, etc).
Also, besides running game servers, I would have to run at least two web servers and a MySQL server for game statistics.
Another question: Is it possible to turn off features to save power? I'm thinking of turning off memory slots and maybe a processor if it's unused.
Thanks in advance.
Kasper Holm Hansen
This server is a bit,, no it is a lot power hungry!! it will suck you dry! 5-600 watt.
Are servers getting popular at home just because for local content streaming and rendering? What else would they use such a powerful device? Interesting video!
Hi Paolo Pabalinas
This would be overkill for that. But Yes it's more and more normal to have a little streaming thing, right next to the TV.. :-)
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Just wondering what do you use these servers for. And of course they're amazing to just have them though!!
Hi Arpan Adhikari
I have so many servers,, I do not use this one at the moment.
But if you install an hypervisor operating system, like VM ware ESXi 6.5 (free) you can play with 10 -50 different servers or clients on just one server. you can install 15 windows servers like I did in this video :
th-cam.com/video/XCkGyVd4IYU/w-d-xo.html
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My PlayHouse where do you get the servers from.
32 32Gb ram sticks will make this pc with 1024gb of ram.Btw is there any gpu and how much storage does it come with?
Hi AE01
It can handel 256GB of RAM and no GPU :-/ and there are 4 drive bays.
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Pls one other question,an you use it by it's own as a PC??
AE01 I was just making a video testing out stuff,, I have six of these...
It can definitely handle a GPU. It just needs an adapter.
www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=8+to+16++pci+express&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=8+to+16++pci+express&_sacat=0
it wont handle one actually you could just modify the slot but that doesnt matter. slots on these dont out put enough power even if you added a second psu with 8 pin power it wouldnt work. level1techs has a curing consolitis video where they try sticking gpus into old work machines and the slot power limitation prevents even basic cards from working.
Are there disadvantages of memory blocks being installed in memory cartridges? Sure it's easier to maintain, but the last block seems to be really far away from the processor, where the memory controller is. Also there's the connector which sure adds noise to the signal.Or that's why ECC memory started in servers?
Hi +Murphistic
Both are right,, and you also have the cartridges that can brake,, so it is not all good. But that said, I have only had bad MEM blocks in servers like this,,, and should a cartridge brake,, it is a lot easier to change then a system board. But Yes more complexity,, more links in the chain to be bad.
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remarkably modular, easy to work on server.....! Nice review....!
Hi mdd1963
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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Great review ! Thanks! I won’t buy anything with out VT-d capability. Really need that for what I am working on.
No,, time is running away from this one!
HMM very interresting I might buy one or two of them for rendering (blender animations) I need a bit performance per core but mannnnnnnnnnnnnny cores so I wonder if there are also x3850 m2 with hyperV
Hi JK music productions
Thank You very much! That would be the x3850 X5,, take a look at that.
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@@MyPlayHouse ok ty very much. I have been searching for hours :)
I'm a lighting designer, could I put a normal windows install on this and use it for running media server software?
HI
It can run server 2008-2012,, if that is what you want
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A lot of power, literally. I'm sure the reason it goes so low is that they're power beasts. Running 24/7 will cost a shit tonne especially with the crappy rates for electricity we have in London for residential premises.
And in a datacenter, it's just too old and the power to performance ratio is too low for modern applications.
Well you are right the good performances and low purchase price,, comes at a power price,, and it is heavy as hell :-)
But for turning on in the evening or in the weekends to play with, it's great!
Thank you for watching! :-)
Can you make a video on a good first server for virtualization?
Hi OzzyKampha
If you want a cheap good server to play with. I made a video talking about that : th-cam.com/video/p2lGufUYIZw/w-d-xo.html
But if you want a 24/7 server that has to stay in your room under your bed :-) maybe go more this way : th-cam.com/video/TqoazLMZNXY/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for watching! :-)
@@MyPlayHouse thank you :) Very good videos you make :D
Help! I bought one of these last year but recently I can't turn it on because it says there is a board error. I have recently moved the server, and I haven't powered it on for a couple weeks since, but I want to know if this is something you can help me with. Thanks.
Hi Mathias Lazewski
Normal troubleshooting applies,,, take out everything you can, to start it with a minimum configuration.
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Would be awesome for virtualization. Could you run Proxmox on it?
Hi Geoff Halsey
Thank You very much! I have not tried that :-)
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also if i get this do you recommend a replacement power supply? The one including would chew threw my electric bill.
Hi Talkative Tech
This is a great High End Enterprise server for learning ant playing with. It's not cheap for 24/7 home use. There are not many PSU´s available.
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Hi Morten how's things? I am going to sign up on your pateron site as I really love your videos as there helping learn so much more. I am looking also for people to donate to me old system they don't use anymore to help carry on learning and trying new things out. Is there anything you can help me with? Thanks
You can use up to 2TB SATA SSDs in this machine. Unfortunately it supports only SATA 300 and Raid Levels 0, 1 and 10. Even with the fastest SSDs, you only get like 300MB/s performance. But anyway it's my favorite machine.
Hi TH-cam 88
Thank You very much!
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I was wrong about the disk speeds. I originally tested it with just a single SSD and never got more than 300MB/s. Now i installed two new 2TB SAS drives in Raid 1 and got more than 500MB/s. So this old server is actually still pretty usable.
wait so you get all that for just $200? all of the processors, ram, hard drives etc.?
Hi eduardoig17
The price of this server went up after I made this video :-/ It´s my fault.
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Wow !! now I know where all the IBM equipment went that I threw away 😜
Hi Richard Powers
Thank You very much! keep your trash comming :-)
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myplayhouse do you have any amd cpu based servers?would love you build any amd based server and play with it
I mess around with enterprise servers,, so I would like one of those. :-)
$100-$175 on ebay right now, I'm quite impressed.
HI
This is a great toy! do read the comments here for more. :-)
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It seems like all the X server machines use the SIMM ejectors as fail LED's....they're clear!
Hi @loslosbaby
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
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Hi sir,
I'm using IBM x3650 7979. Since yesterday my system is getting On but No Post and No video.
Hi Brandon Watson
Sorry to hear that,, hope you get it going again!!
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Which OS did you install? I tried Windows Server 2012 as well as Ubuntu but it did not work.
Hi +Saad Husain
I was going to install VM-ware ESXi 6.0,,, why did Windows Server 2012 and Ubuntu not work?
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+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) It is not recognizing the hard drives with the RAID controller. What do you suggest I should do? Thanks for your videos.
Hi Saad Husain
And you have been in the RAID controller setup and configured a raid,, for windows to see?
much like in this video : th-cam.com/video/gPyMFu2uE8k/w-d-xo.html
????
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most gpu's should run fine at PCIe 8x as that is what they run at in multie gpu configurations (on most cpu's)
Hi
Yes, biggest problem is to fit them in there and power them :-/
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something like an AMD R9 Nano or an ITX version of the GTX 970/1060/1070 should solve the space problem
but all of these GPU's require 120+ watts of power so that's not really possible
something like a GTX 750 Ti or 950 (quadro k2200 or m2000 if you want ecc) have versions without PCIe power connectors, yet those cards aren't particularly powerfull
I would like to know if I can upgrading RAM memory of my IBM 3850 M2 4x Quand Xeon E7320 2.13Ghz 128 Gb RAM and 4x 146Gb SAS. I found some IBM 3850 M2 manuals and I am confuse as some manuals explain It is posibble upgrade RAM memory to 128GB an other manuals describes It is possible to upgrade to 256Gb RAM.
¿ Could you help me ,please?
I have another question, I tried to install a PCIe graffic card with card riser from x16 to x8, however, neither from bios configuration, neither installing graffic card driver It was no possible, to get crazy, but It was not working.
I am very fan of you, great your video demo servers !, excellent.
Hi Ben Ballano
Thank You very much! 256Gb is max in this server,, 4 Menory cartridges 8x8 Gb in each. We are many that has tried to install a GPU,,,, non has gotten this to work.
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Morten, that thing is a beast.. you should make that you chia harvester... Joe
It does not have much room for storage,, so not the best choice..
@@MyPlayHouse how bout hooking to a SAS unit or add USB 3 card
your video is so good.
tell i wanted to make my datacenter, this server is best for datacenter???
how much powerfull server should i buy for my datacenter??
thanks for your ans in advance.
Hi
I'd recommend you to start with this one : th-cam.com/video/p2lGufUYIZw/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for watching! :-)
+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth)
ok I will watch it, thanks for your help :-)
Not rackmountable, but for $100 I got an HP xw9400 with dual opteron 2222se 3ghz dual cores and 32GB of RAM and a 120gb sata hard drive that I just kind of set aside.
Hi Nathan Hamman
Can't really compare the two.
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that SAS port on the back, what enclosure does IBM make that uses that?
Hi Annabella Williams
That is for a DAS,,,
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My PlayHouse I asked for one of these servers for Christmas lol.
do you recommend anything from IBM that goes with these servers so I can attach disk to it?
PS, their all over ebay now, the server.
This is a IBM DAS : amzn.to/2gzGZDY
Not sure if that one will work.
My PlayHouse A little expensive but you gave me an idea of what to search for, thank you do much ^_^
PS, don't know if you have our not but you should give unRAID a look at, it's fricking amazing.
One last thing, you wouldn't happen to know what the part numbers are for linking multiple of these systems are do ya?
like the cables part numbers
Nice piece of hardware you've got there! What I don't get about your videos though is your sometimes utter lack of knowledge of what you're actually dealing with, and just reading things off labels as you spot them, and this hasn't really changed over the years (yes, I've stumbled over a couple of your videos recently).
Examples from this video include "they [PSU] have a lot of watts" after failing to find an exact number on the label (they're rated for 1440W according to "IBM United States Hardware Announcement 107-606" by the way), or "it seems there are no LEDs after all" after inspecting the RAM board -- the retaining/ejecting clips _are_ what the LEDs would light up in case of an error when you pushed that button. Oh, and two of your PCIE slots _do_ support hot-plug; something you at first said they didn't, but later on you notice the orange release buttons.
Hi Gutnarm Matt
Well I do far from know everything, and if I do know something I prefer to show you that it is so,, Me showing you that the PSU is 1440W instead of just saying it,, is way more convincing and entertaining,, and me also showing that there are tons of stuff that I do not know, and "WE" kind of find out along the way,, or "editing Morten" dopes in with the info,, well it is very repeatable.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Very nice server for $200. I need to pick one up. :)
Hi Danny Shortwave And Radio DX
Thank You very much! I am afraid that this video made them very popular,, and the prices went way up :-/
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Hello Morten. I just recently purchased 3 old IBM x3850 servers (2x M1 and 1x M2). I got them VERY cheaply at an auction for approx $20 each! :-) Then another $50 to buy 10x 73GB SAS drives.
However, I am having problems getting the M2 working. It starts and runs and seems to be OK but when I tried installing Windows 7 Pro on it, the install fails and comes up with this error message:
"The computer restarted unexpectedly or encountered an unexpected error. Windows installation cannot proceed. To install Windows, click "OK" to restart the computer, and then restart the installation."
When I click the OK button, it says "Setup will continue after restarting your computer", but it does not work.
I have tried doing a re-install fresh but it keeps coming back to this same error.
I have run a test of the memory and a Preboot Diagnostics test and am not seeing any errors.
Do you have any suggestions for how I might troubleshoot this?
Thanks.
Hi Eran Malloch
Only to try a server OS like the Server 2016,, and firmware update. :-/
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CentOS works..and its free.
CentOS works ..I tryed Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS and get kernal panic
Is a tower server good to work with active directory? A friend gave me the option to get his older server that he doesn't use anymore....
Hi PC GUY 1241
It all depends on what is in it!! the hardware!
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+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) i know it depends on hw. I believe it is a xeon. I'll ask for the specs. A free server is good anyway!
Hi PC GUY 1241
Sure it is! I'm sure it can run as a domain controller,, the question will most likely be what version of windows. :-)
+My PlayHouse (Morten Hjorth) i have it now! It is a SuperMicro server! Lsi raid, 2x 2.8 GHz Xeons, 8 hdd backplane, 16gb ram.
PC GUY 1241 do you have a model for the System board?
how loud are the fans? im looking for an inexpensive server that can sit and run in a room where councelors meet with clients.
Hi Josh Ressler
You want it in another room! then your bedroom. :-)
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