As someone who used to go super-hard on the discard meta, I'm all but convinced it's not a bug, it's a feature. The Sphere and Dredge functions didn't exist back then, but what used to happen every once in a while is an opponent, either through card stealing or something in their own deck (typically involving Chaos Gazer), HPJ would be put into a permanent "discard all copies of this at end of turn" state. Apparently, under certain conditions, HPJ can be put in this state through a quirk of how the 'discard' mechanic works. I think it relates to who is discarding what for which side, so when you do something that doesn't typically operate under what you'd expect, it creates that state for the card. Long story short, the second I saw you explain the meta here, I instantly understood what you were talking about, because I accidentally stumbled onto it myself using older metas.
It also keeps all stat buffs, like symphony of sins +6/+6. That's why it discards itself - solarium applies "discard at the end of a turn" buff to it, which it keeps.
It creates copies that keep enchantments. The bug is that "discard this card at the end of the turn" isn't an enchantment, so the copies shouldn't have that property
@@cakeyeater7392It keeps all additional effects applied to it, including “discard at end of turn”. Really, I don’t see how “discard at end of turn” *isn’t* an enchantment. I’d suggest that it isn’t so much a bug as a quirk.
@@WiggyWamWam "discard at the end of the turn" isn't an enchantment because the affect doesn't stay when the minion is on the board, like all other enchantments. It's also not an effect that the card is explicitly applying. The card doesn't say "give those cards 'discard at the end of the turn'" it just says that *you* will discard them. It's a bug because the effect is not supposed to be applied to the card, it's just supposed to be an event that happens when you end your turn. If you can't see that, you're either blind, or you just don't want to look.
this is actually a super cool interaction that i think could be expanded on further with like hand buffs and more cost reductions, its a shame only one card can trigger it starting.
I love Mark saying geschrieben bot reno when they play duplicates like that means anything. I play renoviert in my deck with dupplicates. Become active in the late game when I need it.
Since you are generating so many minions, maybe Sire as a kill card? Also, this seems like a good candidate for either going dragon package/K and/or Archivist for some staying power...maybe even Faelen?
Priestess's copies keep all handbuffs, which is why this bug exists. She's keeping the "discard this at end of turn" effect. So... run Deathaxe Punisher.
Not really a bug. Jeklik has always created exact copies of herself as she is in your hand, so handbuffs, discounts and other effects (Like "Discard at the end of turn" from things like Solarium, Immolate or Chaos Gazer) Meaning you could really build a deck around her with Thaurissan + Rod to get her to 0-1 mana and buff her with things like Stereo Totem, Soul Infusion, Don Han'cho, Scrap Imp etc. To full on go into this you could even use Questline so you won't fatigue, making your opponent have to somehow push though endless boards of Lifesteal Taunts...
@@tarille1043 I might be wrong, but I clearly remember seeing this interaction before and it did not work like this, so it either got changed years ago when Jeklik basically disappeared from constructed and everyone just never found out (which is something I always find extremely unlikely given the sheer amount of games that happen each day, but at the same time we are talking about some of the most unpopular card combos that ever existed, idk) or it got changed recently and people found out reasonably early
@@rajkanishu Card hasn't changed. Mark even did a combo with it ages ago using Immolate (Giving Immolate to the opponent to have Jeklik infinitely recopy from being discarded) No-one really plays Jeklik so it doesn't come up that often even in Discolock decks.
@@tarille1043 those are two different cards and can work differently, you're totally underestimated the amount of spaghetti in HS "It's just no-one bothered to force Solarium into Jeklik before." No one tried one of the best (at the time) discard synergy with one of the best card draw that also discards ? Even tho they both got released at the same time in a expansion where warlock whole gameplan was based on discard mechanics ? Meaning that this combo was standard in a environnement with very few discard cards... ? You're just deciding you're right without even thinking about what you're writing, this interaction happened a lot Also, sorry to break it to you, but I'm one of those players that actually tried the discard package back then and it wasn't bugged: the card has changed
This is a bug, she wasn't doing that when she was made, I played her a lot when I was new and got her from the pack, and I got this warlock spell golden from the pack, thats why I can remember that clearly. I opened a pack and there was 3 legendaries, golden warlock spell, golden druid spell and I don't remebmer third one. It was my first pack with more than one legendary lol. She wasn't discarding her more than once before. This spell effect was gone after 1 discard.
i understand how it's a bug, but as it gives 2 copies of it, it's also logical for the copies to keep the buffs/effect on the card, because you copied it, in that state.
It does keep stats. however, the bug is the fact that the "discard at the end of the turn" property shouldn't be an enchantment, and therefore something that the card keeps after being discarded.
Ima go ahead and say jjst what bugs me when mark went against his opponent, the way how they keep trying to target marks face with a rush minion, or if he has a taunt in the way, like bro we get it, face is the place, no need to be up in my face about it. Why people so toxic? 😂
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Try adding queen bug from Ungoro(I don't remember name of card)
As someone who used to go super-hard on the discard meta, I'm all but convinced it's not a bug, it's a feature. The Sphere and Dredge functions didn't exist back then, but what used to happen every once in a while is an opponent, either through card stealing or something in their own deck (typically involving Chaos Gazer), HPJ would be put into a permanent "discard all copies of this at end of turn" state.
Apparently, under certain conditions, HPJ can be put in this state through a quirk of how the 'discard' mechanic works. I think it relates to who is discarding what for which side, so when you do something that doesn't typically operate under what you'd expect, it creates that state for the card.
Long story short, the second I saw you explain the meta here, I instantly understood what you were talking about, because I accidentally stumbled onto it myself using older metas.
Doesn't even play handbuffs, unbelievable
It also keeps all stat buffs, like symphony of sins +6/+6. That's why it discards itself - solarium applies "discard at the end of a turn" buff to it, which it keeps.
It creates copies that keep enchantments. The bug is that "discard this card at the end of the turn" isn't an enchantment, so the copies shouldn't have that property
@@cakeyeater7392It keeps all additional effects applied to it, including “discard at end of turn”. Really, I don’t see how “discard at end of turn” *isn’t* an enchantment. I’d suggest that it isn’t so much a bug as a quirk.
@@WiggyWamWamthe card was fine for years, it's clearly a bug
@@ZZZZordanDo we know when it appeared? Or did we just discover it?
@@WiggyWamWam "discard at the end of the turn" isn't an enchantment because the affect doesn't stay when the minion is on the board, like all other enchantments.
It's also not an effect that the card is explicitly applying. The card doesn't say "give those cards 'discard at the end of the turn'" it just says that *you* will discard them.
It's a bug because the effect is not supposed to be applied to the card, it's just supposed to be an event that happens when you end your turn. If you can't see that, you're either blind, or you just don't want to look.
this is actually a super cool interaction that i think could be expanded on further with like hand buffs and more cost reductions, its a shame only one card can trigger it starting.
Bug also works with Zavas btw
8:22 you can see undead reno for a brief moment
I love Mark saying geschrieben bot reno when they play duplicates like that means anything. I play renoviert in my deck with dupplicates. Become active in the late game when I need it.
discolor reno XD
Since you are generating so many minions, maybe Sire as a kill card? Also, this seems like a good candidate for either going dragon package/K and/or Archivist for some staying power...maybe even Faelen?
Sire would be so good in this deck
it makes sense, since it generates a copy of the minion it retains the "discard at end of turn" effect
That could work really well with hand buffs or with minion buffs + bounces
I imagine the effect goes away once she's bounced?
@@mica4977 probably but you can just discard it again
@@mica4977 you bounce handbuff cards
Priestess's copies keep all handbuffs, which is why this bug exists. She's keeping the "discard this at end of turn" effect. So... run Deathaxe Punisher.
That first guy was cooking up something thats for sure.
where is your spirit of the bat? you can hanbuff her and she should grow bigger
-do you like to play with fire?
-*plays trial of fire*
I love how the UNKILLABLE taunt keeps getting killed every turn :D (also it's not a bug)
Mark you don't need clickbait titles, you're better than this
Rod, Thauressan, etc. Would be sweet to have them infinite at 0 mana and super buffed.
Now we know why Boomsday hasn’t been added to Duels. Hopefully this changes before it gets axed.
Could try this in the current Tavern Brawl so Jeklik has every Minion type, might be something interesting there.
I wouldn't consider this a bug, Jeklik just makes exact copies cause she was printed in the set that tried to make handbuff warlock a thing.
2:13 omg what is wrong with gigafin eyes on the hs replay deck tracker?
Not really a bug. Jeklik has always created exact copies of herself as she is in your hand, so handbuffs, discounts and other effects (Like "Discard at the end of turn" from things like Solarium, Immolate or Chaos Gazer)
Meaning you could really build a deck around her with Thaurissan + Rod to get her to 0-1 mana and buff her with things like Stereo Totem, Soul Infusion, Don Han'cho, Scrap Imp etc.
To full on go into this you could even use Questline so you won't fatigue, making your opponent have to somehow push though endless boards of Lifesteal Taunts...
the card was fine for years, it's clearly a bug
@@ZZZZordan The card hasn't changed how it works. It's just no-one bothered to force Solarium into Jeklik before.
@@tarille1043 I might be wrong, but I clearly remember seeing this interaction before and it did not work like this, so it either got changed years ago when Jeklik basically disappeared from constructed and everyone just never found out (which is something I always find extremely unlikely given the sheer amount of games that happen each day, but at the same time we are talking about some of the most unpopular card combos that ever existed, idk) or it got changed recently and people found out reasonably early
@@rajkanishu Card hasn't changed.
Mark even did a combo with it ages ago using Immolate (Giving Immolate to the opponent to have Jeklik infinitely recopy from being discarded)
No-one really plays Jeklik so it doesn't come up that often even in Discolock decks.
@@tarille1043 those are two different cards and can work differently, you're totally underestimated the amount of spaghetti in HS
"It's just no-one bothered to force Solarium into Jeklik before."
No one tried one of the best (at the time) discard synergy with one of the best card draw that also discards ?
Even tho they both got released at the same time in a expansion where warlock whole gameplan was based on discard mechanics ? Meaning that this combo was standard in a environnement with very few discard cards... ?
You're just deciding you're right without even thinking about what you're writing, this interaction happened a lot
Also, sorry to break it to you, but I'm one of those players that actually tried the discard package back then and it wasn't bugged: the card has changed
not a bug, but applying the discard at end of turn on her isn't easy..nice find though....thats an interaction thats been overlook for years
This is a bug, she wasn't doing that when she was made, I played her a lot when I was new and got her from the pack, and I got this warlock spell golden from the pack, thats why I can remember that clearly. I opened a pack and there was 3 legendaries, golden warlock spell, golden druid spell and I don't remebmer third one. It was my first pack with more than one legendary lol. She wasn't discarding her more than once before. This spell effect was gone after 1 discard.
i understand how it's a bug, but as it gives 2 copies of it, it's also logical for the copies to keep the buffs/effect on the card, because you copied it, in that state.
Does it also keep buffs after discarding? If that's the case, then it's not a bug.
It does keep stats. however, the bug is the fact that the "discard at the end of the turn" property shouldn't be an enchantment, and therefore something that the card keeps after being discarded.
does the jeklik keep stat boosts? is a handbuff version of this deck even possible?
yes it does, that's what i used to play back in the days !
Wasent there a similar bug with that sunken city fire card?
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But where was the "Got 'em"?
what is with that sargarus 13:31
Ima go ahead and say jjst what bugs me when mark went against his opponent, the way how they keep trying to target marks face with a rush minion, or if he has a taunt in the way, like bro we get it, face is the place, no need to be up in my face about it. Why people so toxic? 😂
Well played
How does he even find these lol
what a weird feature
i know she says "Hir'eek" but it sounds like she says "i reek".
8:55 "I could just giga Chad"😂
It isn't a bug since the original has the discard at the end of turn and the copies also have it for that reason🤓
the card was fine for years, it's clearly a bug
Straight to jail Mark! Straight to jail!
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To Blizz jail with You!
69th comment? :D