Leaves your mouth agape. Shows how Alkan could take what starts out as rather unpromising thematic material and rear an imposing, fantastic structure out of it. Like the other Etudes in this opus, he achieves an orchestral style at the piano that is yet not unpianistic.
@@sebastian-benedictflore eh honestly even whole types of music could be qualified as 'overkill' depending on the listener like take music from complexity movement for exame with stuff like sorabji - most people would call that overkill even though there are people who like it lol
WOW, OVER 25 YEARS STUDYING ALKAN, BUT SOMEHOW I MISSED THIS ONE ALL THE WAY TILL 4-3-16 - THANKS A LOT FOR THE STAGGERING UPLOAD !!! NEVER HEARD THIS ONE.....REMINDS ME A LOT OF LISZT, IN THE SAME WAY THAT I CAN NEVER GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THOSE TWO, STILL DISCOVERING NEW STUFF ALL THE TIME !!!
sam333 while I think this revival of Alkan is because his music extremely difficult, he isn’t a not as emotional copy as him. (Still empty to me though)
@@MegaPianogenius Yeah, Alkan really didn't copy Liszt. But he definitely didn't have the compositional genius of Chopin or even Liszt when it came to portraying emotion.
sorry but where you see that genius of portraying in Liszt? Alkan is actually much more portraying and nuancing in his music and the technical level isn't for difficult level but of discovering all colors of each music line or tembre. Liszt is mostly about showing off wiith passages harmonies and motif work,but Alkan has much more he has story with notes and giving progression towards unpredictable motion. and emotionaly he is deeper than Chopin who had too much sentiment and not that much deepth. Alkan is dorky but serious and emotional without too much wavering, he just knows how to mendle emotions without too much or to less. I think nowdays we are taking as granted all that description about Chopin and Liszt which left to us since their time and being to
I have been reading a novel by Lincoln Child that uses the music of Alkan as a motif. "The Forgotten Room". Rather like an early form of minimalism in certain passages.
Interesting to analyze the different views and opinions about a composer’s music after so many years. Any new born work, as well as every composers’ fame begins from zero. Some make it to the top, some do not transcend or do it in a limited scale. It is the public (not even the critics or experts) who have the final word. With due respect to him and his admirers, time and history have put Alkan in a considerably lower stature than Chopin and Liszt
No doubt that through the test of time Chopin, Liszt (and several other major Romantic composers too!) are of higher stature than Alkan, and deservedly so. And so what? Does that mean that Alkan is not an interesting composer, at least some of whose works deserve praise and performance?
@@galanis38 None of the Romantics "transcend" Alkan in terms of brilliance - he was an incredibly versatile and inventive composer, whose works are neglected *solely* as the result of having been a recluse for most of his life; Liszt, who toured Europe for decades, would obviously have received more exposure...and it's not that his works are superior to Alkan's (though most are utter masterpieces). The reason why the public has a hard time coming to terms with Alkan's oeuvre is that he rarely promoted his own works, which are extraordinary and among the finest piano music of the Romantic Era. By your logic, Zelenka is of "lower stature" than Handel (which is clearly untrue) because he isn't as famous as other Baroque composers and hasn't been given the level of musical exposure he deserves. Neither Zelenka nor Alkan are "deservedly" relegated to a lower status - I think the "test of time" is one of the poorest means of evaluating greatness.
Also, due to the tremendous technical challenge that many of Alkan's works present (including sheer endurance!) His music often suffers from less than brilliant performances. Some composers' music can be enjoyed with good but not great performances, but Alkan, especially in pieces of this scale, depends on pure technical mastery at the service of musical expression.
@@alejandrom.4680 Alkan se esta jugando erróneamente en cuanto a velocidad en muchas de sus obras, el estudio que mencionas si lo tocas a la mitad de la velocidad es bastante accesible de lo contrario y si quieres seguir insistiendo con la velocidad entonces Czerny Op.364 y 365 son mas difíciles tan difíciles que son imposibles tocarlos a la velocidad
Man, people love Alkan’s peaces not only because they are hard to perform but for the music component. It’s like you comment moonlight sonata that it is not enough difficult comparing to Czerny. Please stop comment every video of Alkan such way, it is stupid)
Probably my favorite composition by Alkan, next to his symphony
14:24 Circle of fifths so pretty
he did something similar in his le preux
"Stupendous" is absolutely the term I would use to describe the Op.39 Etudes!
This is so incredibly competent!
14:23
ここ好きすぎる
Leaves your mouth agape. Shows how Alkan could take what starts out as rather unpromising thematic material and rear an imposing, fantastic structure out of it. Like the other Etudes in this opus, he achieves an orchestral style at the piano that is yet not unpianistic.
Don't know why there are so few notes. My nose and toes have nothing to do.
LOL
*Laughs in alkan's pieces for pedal piano*
Lol😂
Alkan's Ouverture is amazing! And I'm glad you picked Ringeissen recording, which is my favorite one
Love it. If you ever need to get over a hangover this is the cure.
😂😂😂 🔝👏👏👏
I will say: I could imagine an opera following this.
that'd have to be quite the opera...
6:39 interesting rythmics
There need to be a transcription for Orchestra of this piece ... Stokowski where are you 😅
Leopold Stokowski, Polish-born conductor.
I tried orchestration on my channel!
Mark Starr has made one. He has made arrangements of other Alkan works, too, including the Concerto.
This etude is no less brilliant than previous 3 etudes (op39 No8-No10), but it was rarely played. The coda section is on fire !!
It's my fav etude
love this peice so charasmatic. it is amazing what one man can do with a piano. LOVE IT!!!!
That ending was definitely an overkill! xD
Which one? There are about six endings. LOL
@@MooPotPie The final one. 14:54 - 15:09
i'd say fascinating, nothing is overkill in music lol
@@pleasecontactme4274 NOTHING? Try the ending of Alkan marche triomphale. That is definitely overkill haha
@@sebastian-benedictflore eh honestly even whole types of music could be qualified as 'overkill' depending on the listener
like take music from complexity movement for exame with stuff like sorabji - most people would call that overkill even though there are people who like it lol
If Chopin and Liszt tried to make the piano sound like a human singing, Alkan made the piano sing like the piano.
How can you sing to Liszt ?
@@canman5060 That requires 88 vocal chords at least xD
You can certainly say that about Chopin, but I don't agree with that depiction of Liszt.
@@Eorzat He make the piano sound like an orchestra. This might be better.
@@huangfrancis8717 have you heard ravel's piano writing? _that_ is orchestral
WOW, OVER 25 YEARS STUDYING ALKAN, BUT SOMEHOW I MISSED THIS ONE ALL THE WAY TILL 4-3-16 - THANKS A LOT FOR THE STAGGERING UPLOAD !!! NEVER HEARD THIS ONE.....REMINDS ME A LOT OF LISZT, IN THE SAME WAY THAT I CAN NEVER GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THOSE TWO, STILL DISCOVERING NEW STUFF ALL THE TIME !!!
You're welcome, my friend. :)
like a cheap shadow of liszt with no real invention, just massive chords
sam333 while I think this revival of Alkan is because his music extremely difficult, he isn’t a not as emotional copy as him. (Still empty to me though)
@@MegaPianogenius Yeah, Alkan really didn't copy Liszt. But he definitely didn't have the compositional genius of Chopin or even Liszt when it came to portraying emotion.
sorry but where you see that genius of portraying in Liszt? Alkan is actually much more portraying and nuancing in his music and the technical level isn't for difficult level but of discovering all colors of each music line or tembre. Liszt is mostly about showing off wiith passages harmonies and motif work,but Alkan has much more he has story with notes and giving progression towards unpredictable motion. and emotionaly he is deeper than Chopin who had too much sentiment and not that much deepth. Alkan is dorky but serious and emotional without too much wavering, he just knows how to mendle emotions without too much or to less. I think nowdays we are taking as granted all that description about Chopin and Liszt which left to us since their time and being to
5:18 I guess I hear something similar to this in Debussy's danse Bohemian
Looks like a hell of an etude
If you can play this you can play anything
@@MrFartyman44 what are those
14:24-15:14
YEah, I love it so much too.
7:00
Such a brilliant piece
I have been reading a novel by Lincoln Child that uses the music of Alkan as a motif. "The Forgotten Room". Rather like an early form of minimalism in certain passages.
The best resource for studying composition and modulation changes🎉
beautiful beautiful beautiful 😭😭😍😍😍😍😍😍❤❤💛💛❤💙💗💛💕💕💞💛💘💘
His humanism was such an awesome one
What a hell of a piece, thank you gsarci for this upload!
10:09
Interesting to analyze the different views and opinions about a composer’s music after so many years. Any new born work, as well as every composers’ fame begins from zero. Some make it to the top, some do not transcend or do it in a limited scale. It is the public (not even the critics or experts) who have the final word. With due respect to him and his admirers, time and history have put Alkan in a considerably lower stature than Chopin and Liszt
No doubt that through the test of time Chopin, Liszt (and several other major Romantic composers too!) are of higher stature than Alkan, and deservedly so. And so what? Does that mean that Alkan is not an interesting composer, at least some of whose works deserve praise and performance?
@@galanis38 Agree!
@@galanis38 None of the Romantics "transcend" Alkan in terms of brilliance - he was an incredibly versatile and inventive composer, whose works are neglected *solely* as the result of having been a recluse for most of his life; Liszt, who toured Europe for decades, would obviously have received more exposure...and it's not that his works are superior to Alkan's (though most are utter masterpieces). The reason why the public has a hard time coming to terms with Alkan's oeuvre is that he rarely promoted his own works, which are extraordinary and among the finest piano music of the Romantic Era.
By your logic, Zelenka is of "lower stature" than Handel (which is clearly untrue) because he isn't as famous as other Baroque composers and hasn't been given the level of musical exposure he deserves. Neither Zelenka nor Alkan are "deservedly" relegated to a lower status - I think the "test of time" is one of the poorest means of evaluating greatness.
Also, due to the tremendous technical challenge that many of Alkan's works present (including sheer endurance!) His music often suffers from less than brilliant performances. Some composers' music can be enjoyed with good but not great performances, but Alkan, especially in pieces of this scale, depends on pure technical mastery at the service of musical expression.
@@therealrealludwigvanbeethovenyou hold so many beliefs, but hold absolutely 0 knowledge nor understanding.
Beautiful.
Performer is Bernard Ringeissen
13:23 divine theme coming
7:58 this looks uncomfortable as hell
It's is
The left hand gives me headache
It's literally impossible
Yep
0:15
0:57
1:32
2:26
3:26
3:51
15:05 that ending i kinda strange? or only i thing that?
It's not that strange, it still resolves the music. Maybe a bit dragged out, but that isn't exactly a bad thing.
I think he messes up the left hand jump a bit, but its pretty ridiculous. Fuckin love alkan 😫
6:02 Scriabin's piano concerto)
I love 7:58 to 9:00.
Me too
Cooooooool
6:39
10:59
12:28
I think this recording studio was Teldex Studio Berlin.
Great commentary =)
4:40 Thumbnail
12:49
What are the forms and emotions of the sections?
8:27 Liszt Puritains (But slower)
14:14 自分用
Sounds like a piano score from a silent movie.
That is enough to claim Alkan to be a great composer
@@niccolopaganini4268 you shouldn't be saying that lol Alkan is ahead of your time 😂😂😂
Jk
Pianist?!
123eldest bernard ringeissen
Nice of you to stop by, Charlie! What do you think of Bernhard's performance? Was it how you imagined your music to be played?
123eldest Van Darkhome
It's like a test to see if a piano will stay in tune.
This could lead to tendonitis - rather like using a pneumatic drill!
5:38 beautiful sequences
JAZZ AND SO SWEET
Not Jazz at all...
@@mojeo522 MORE JAZZY THAN MOST JAZZ do not let the name confuse you liszt , beethoven etc all did JAZZ
@@jamesnicol3831 no
@@jamesnicol3831 no
@@jamesnicol3831 no
This is not Mozart but there are too many notes.
This is pathetic when compared to anything that Chopin wrote, decades earlier.
Another silent movie film score. "Here comes the train!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! "
아니시바..보기만해도 손목아프네
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋ
Tedio
И не лень же было кому-то такой бред учить...
Ярослав Ткаченко Что тебя не устраивает?
Сам ты бред
@Classical piano - Synthesia Ну они представители своих направлений. По сути их бредом назвать нельзя
Czerny Op.400 Prelude And Fugue 12 Is more Hard than this etude
Alguna vez tocaste alguna pieza de Alkan? Veo que te tomas muy a la ligera sus piezas, y un pianista ni bromeando diría eso...
This is one of Alkan's more musical pieces. Check out le festin d'Aesop.
@@alejandrom.4680 Alkan se esta jugando erróneamente en cuanto a velocidad en muchas de sus obras, el estudio que mencionas si lo tocas a la mitad de la velocidad es bastante accesible de lo contrario y si quieres seguir insistiendo con la velocidad entonces Czerny Op.364 y 365 son mas difíciles tan difíciles que son imposibles tocarlos a la velocidad
Man, people love Alkan’s peaces not only because they are hard to perform but for the music component. It’s like you comment moonlight sonata that it is not enough difficult comparing to Czerny. Please stop comment every video of Alkan such way, it is stupid)
This is so terribly incompetent.
Boring.
Bro it's an etude chill
@@Jamric-gr8grit's terrible. Chill. An etude is not required to, and should not be bad.
yes
go and listen rap and pop
piano pieces is not good for amateurs
Go back to listen to your taylor swift
14:23
What a hell of a piece, thank you gsarci for this upload!
14:24
14:24