Yeah. I couldn’t stop crying too. I hated that he didn’t get to see his daughter grow up but he should be able to spend time with her now that she finished the time loop.
Writers did say in an interview that Lucifer would've been able to visit Chloe as long as he didn't interrupt the time loop, so my head cannon is that they still secretly met up with each other and passed messages to each other from time to time as long as Rory didn't find out. Helped me deal with the ending anyway haha.
Same, I like to think he was there by Chloe's side for the birth and would leave gifts on birthdays and holidays and Chloe would just say they were from her
In theory, there's nothing that stops Lucifer from visiting before Rory starts remembering him... or for "Uncle Michael" to come over for the weekend... or for Chloe to need to stop by Lux for a couple of hours every blue moon.
I really don't understand this loop logic, Rory only comes back to the past because Lucifer did leave them, but if he don't she would'nt had needed to and everything would just goes by normaly.
@@Shurororu Because without Rory, Lucifer never decides to go back and heal Hell; she decided that was more important than her having a stable childhood.
This episode was a rollercoaster of emotions. I couldn't stop crying for days. Thank you both for taking us on this journey. I'm so glad you started the show. I've enjoyed all your reactions and I'll miss them. 💕
I think the ending was perfect. The reason Lucifer couldn’t go back and forth was that one the time loop and two time passes differently in hell days can be years.
Exactly-the loop had to hold. Lucifer only realized his calling because of his experience with Rory, who only traveled back in time because of her anger, which she only had because Lucifer wasn't there her whole life. Being part of her life would've broken the loop and potentially imperiled the whole thing-not just all the other souls in Hell for whom Lucifer was a chance out, but also Dan, who only got his salvation because he talked to Trixie, which only happened because Angry Rory brought him up from Hell in the first place.
@@andrewharrison5288 exactly. altering anything when two parallel universes cross paths will have catastrophic ripple effects. kinda like how loki the series explains it.
@@ancestormoon7 Parallel Universes has nothing to do with it. It's all about one specific timeline and a set amount of time within that timeline in which events need to play out exactly as intended.
@@andrewharrison5288 not to mention if not for Rory he would have become God and definitely Luci would have loathed that job; and still don't not know how it would have worked with Chloe being his consultant in Heaven while she was much alive and human.
also, chloe gets old but not him.. with the time she would have felt bad.. this way.. they remember each other as they were the last time they saw each other.
Right? Or literally anything cluing Trixie in on the reality of the celestials, because does she even know it's all real yet? I assume the half angel sister will clue her in eventually, but it sucks that we didn't get to see that.
They have been doing their best to ignore Trixie since season 4. She was great in the beginning but then I think her cute factor started to fade and the acting level wasn't quite on the level of the rest of the cast. Case in point, when Dan died and she cried you could tell it was forced. Granted that's one of the hardest things for an actor to do on demand.
@@spooditt6968 True, but given that Trixie's mother is in a serious relationship with Lucifer and is now having a half-angel baby by him, not to mention the fact that Trixie's best friend, Maze, is a demon, it might possibly be a good idea for her to know. Especially since we know that her baby sister, Rory, will have wings and age more slowly than Trixie will as a regular human. She will have to know eventually anyway, and I just would have liked to have seen that happen in the show before it ended.
Okay hear me out…. A spin off show called city of angels where we follow Rory, trixie, and Charlie. I do what it could be fully about but I’m down for just seeing the characters again
Yesss Maze could pop in with Eve, Amenagod, maybe some more angel babies since he said he wants the angels to spend time on earth. Sadly no Lucifer and Chloe though.
The fact that they didn’t show him watching from the window or him holding her when she was a baby, all of the things that the showrunners said he did but they didn’t film. Why couldn’t they put pictures of Rory on his desk to imply that Chloe gives Amenadiel pictures or messages to give to Lucifer. All those things would have made it easier.
It's so sad Lucifer couldn't be with Chloe for the rest of her human life but at least they end up together for eternity. Lucifer just couldn't go to earth to see Rory because she need to go through a life without her dad for her to get so mad to go to the past so for Lucifer to find his path to be hell healer.
Even before I finally finished the show, I knew that a lot of peoples' headcannon is that Lucifer and Chloe saw each other in secret through the years and just made sure that Rory never found out. It's definitely a nice thought.
Yeah that piano scene KILLED ME. I remember crying my eyes out at 2am, and it took me 3 days to get over this scene alone. So bittersweet but the best scene for them
Amenadiel doesn't have to worry about the time loop. The time loop is necessary because Rory coming back in time and interacting with Lucifer is the only way Lucifer does what he has to do as quickly as possible (if at all). And all that only happens if Rory gets mad enough to time travel, which took 30+ years of anger at Lucifer for her to achieve. If Lucifer visits even one time (you guys know what he's like), his resolve melts and he isn't able to do what he needs to do. Remember, that lifetime on Earth is just a blip of their future lifetime together. You don't need to feel bad for them, you don't even need to feel bad for Chloe. She understood and took it like a champion.
Rory asked to "Don´t change me" and Lucifer promised it and he never breaks his promises. If he would have stayed or visited Chloe&Rory her personality would have changed. There would be an other Rory but not the one Chloe&Lucifer met and already love. They did it out of love for their daughter Rory. Parents do sacrifice many things for their children sometimes even their own happiness.
It wasn't that Lucifer couldn't and didn't want to do both, it's that he had to stay in hell so Rory would resent him so she'd go back and help him find his purpose. That's what the loop requires.
My thought is that in a non-time travel sense, if Lucifer had come up for "a weekend" 1) hundreds of years would pass in Hell, and 2) he wouldn't want to go back because he would be spending, to him, thousands of years away from his growing daughter and the love of his life. So it's not purely "because time travel stuff"
I really don't understand this loop logic, Rory only comes back to the past because Lucifer did leave them, but if he don't she would'nt had needed to and everything would just goes by normaly since Chloe was already pregnant, but I do understand the purpose thing, is more like Lucifer choose to leave them because he choose his purpose over them by going to heal every soul in hell, and with Chloe going to help him after he help her the whole life, was really cool
@@Shurororu Yeah, Time Travel Logic is a bit complicated. It's like Family Guy when Stewie's time traveling led to the big bang. He created the big bang so it could create him so he could create it. It's really weird. But yes, this way Lucifer fulfills his purpose while Chloe fulfills hers down in LA helping to clean up the department and build a better police force. A "And they lived happily ever after" ending with them just living both lives easily might have been cute, but also could have felt cheap. This way it has weight to it, and they still get to be together in the end forever, while finally completing all that character growth.
@@Shurororu it was Rory coming back in time that caused lucifer to figure out his calling, to figure out the last of his issues…if she never came back, then the fears Chloe felt about the unstableness of their relationship would continue…
So the issue is that the whole rage Rory had is what led to her traveling back in the first place, and all the events, including Lucifer talking her down from a dark path. That last moment was key in him realizing his and hell's purpose. The only way to guarantee that chain of events was to repeat them. It's a bootstrap paradox, the trick with those is realizing they're CLOSED loops, they have no origin point.
If he goes back and forth then Rory never gets mad enough to time travel and he would have never gotten the idea to help lost souls and even Dan would be stuck in hell because she never brought him up and he would have never possessed Vincent and thus never gotten closure its a huge loop that affects more than just his relationship with Chloe and Rory.
About Lucifer becoming the therapist in Hell...it's also a throwback to season 5 where Dr. Linda says to Lucifer, "That's *very* insightful Lucifer. Maybe you should become a counselor". Wonderful reaction, ladies!!!! Here's hoping another show eventually comes along that intrigues us as much, moves us as strongly.
An amazing fulling ending to an incredible show! Seeing everyone get their happy ending , Deckstar is one of the best tv couples I seen is years this ending was for us fans
Anybody else thought it ended when the screen went black after the piano scene? I literally got up and was like HOLD UP. I was about to start throwing hands with the show writers if they left it at that. 🤣🤣🤣
You girls have made watching Lucifer all the more special. I am so glad I stumbled on your channel. Thank you girls. PS I love the lab always being there with you.
Hey Feels , I really enjoyed watching all of this with you. Little tidbit from the comic this is based on. When all creation comes to an end and all is finished , Azrael is the last being left. She turns out the lights and and closes the door.
the reason he can't go back and forth between earth and hell is because baby Rory cant see him growing up otherwise she never would have grown up to be angry with him, meaning that she never would have time travelled, meaninggggg that non of this season would have happend and lucifer never would have realised he needed to help lost souls
The showrunners realized they messed up and started doing interviews where they said that: “he got to hold her”, “he watches his girls from the shadows”, “he and Chloe will occasionally meet up as long as it doesn’t effect the timeline”, etc. That’s great… IF THEY ACTUALLY FILMED IT.
I never before seen the series of Lucifer but watched each and every episode on your channel!! I too enjoyed it seeing it for the first time like you. You two are so amazing and I love your channel!!!
He can't go back and forth because the only reason his daughter goes back in time to kill him before he could disappear is because he disappeared and the only reason he figures out what his true purpose is is because he met his daughter who was angry at him for disappearing...
OMG i have been waiting for this reaction from u guys all week OMG i've been watching Lucifer since day ONE but wow i couldnt have picture a better ending it for a great series like this its truly reminds me when Charmed and Shadowhunters wrapped up. I just so thankful to Netflix for giving this great show a 2nd chance and as usual what a great reaction throughout the entire series ladies stay blessed.
Even if lucifer couldn't spend time with his daughter growing up, rory can now visit Chloe and lucifer in hell whenever she wants to because she's an angel
Rory was literally asking him to save her life. If he didn’t leave she wouldn’t become the daughter he came to love. That’s what the time loop meant. The two of them sacrificed years together for their daughter. So she could become the bad ass she is.
no.. was not just that.. if she did not travel in time, lucifer would not figure out his call, it would not help Dan to solve his guilt and several other reasons. Also.. eventually chloe would get old but not him.. how chloe would felt about that? This way was perfect.
This is also Earth 666 in the arrowverse. Just in case you didn't watch the crisis of infinite Earth crossover that someone shows up to Lucifer and makes a deal with him from one of the other shows.
Only started the show just over a month ago, and finished it tonight. One of the best shows I've ever watched, love the cast so much, got a feeling it won't be too long until I watch it again, just loved it!
If he did go to see his daughter grow up, she wouldn't have been so mad at him to send herself back in time. Then he wouldn't have been the healer he became. As she said, it's just a blip for them. Sure she lived like 20 some odd years of anger, but now they have an eternity to be a family.
“I need a titanic ending” I lol’d so hard. I’m glad we got it though. I’ve never seen so much crying in one video you guys must be so dehydrated. Btw did you notice Linda’s ex-husband still in hell at the end.
according to the showrunners Chloe died 50 years after Lucifer left. How many hell years is this? And Reese and Le Mac are still there. Some souls never learn
@@Scheherasad Reese is a tough case. His guilt is probably that he loves Linda so much he can't let her be free. For him, it's not simply coming to terms with guilt, because to do so will also require him to let go of unrequited love which was so strong it drove him to become a murderer.
@@angellestat2730 ik I’m talking about the actor that plays Rory she’s only 26 in real life and they can have a all new cast on the show with her future where she meets people
@@TonyAdams95 it would be weird doing a spin off of angels, without showing GOD or Lucifer, or chloe (because she can go to visit them). Unless IA as faceapp become more popular, allowing some actors to have an appareance, not sure if it worth it. You can easily notice the age difference on Lucifer and Amenadiel from season 1 to 6. If it is a small spin off, only one season.. then it would be ok. But with such a good ending.. not sure if I would risk that. Yeah, Rory characters looks like she has a lot of potential, but as I said, I am too happy with this ending..
I'm so happy you guys loved the ending because there's been some mixed views on it. I loved it and thought it was such a beautiful way to end it. The piano scene 😭❤ Lauren's tears are real btw. And the last scene is actually the very last scene they shot.
I get the mixed reviews. That's always going to happen. But the base-line comparison is other Lucifer episodes, and while this probably isn't perfect, it is about as close as you can get to full catharsis for the characters involved.
I'm crying again re-watching this with you guys but I'm ngl, I'm also cracking tf up because it just came to me that this is how I looked watching it the first time. Ugh, us lucifans are so dramatic but can you blame us? It's such a good show with a perfect ending.
Luckily Joe and Ildy confirmed That Luci Visited Chloe from Time to time and just couldn‘t Show himself to Rory cause of his Promise. That calmed my broken heart A LOT
I get why they wouldn't show that, for fear that it reduces the impact at their final meeting. But it would have been cool to see him and her watching their sleeping daughter together.
@@eliteteamkiller319 I read a fanfiction that solution I loved!! While Rory was in the past Luci visited Chloe at her deathbed and shortly before Rory arrived back in the future, Luci said "I'll see you soon, my love" and left. That would have soothed all my wounds and the meeting at the end with that not-longing, but lovable kiss would have made every sense.
I really enjoyed your reaction to this show. Sorry it’s over but all good things come to an end! So glad this was a happy one even thought this episode had me balling like a baby. 🙂
So few shoes screw up at the end… but Lucifer nailed the landing. They did so well! A few side notes (1) Apparently they had extended family in the Chloe death scene (inc. old Trixie etc) but it didn’t work… to many people to slow it all down. They went with the meat of the scene. (2) There is a thought that that woman on the couch at the end in Lucifers counselling session was the “mean girl” from S1E1 that Lucifer warns there was “a special place in hell” for
There would be one little plot hole if they put the whole family there: Rory would have disappeared for a moment right before their eyes. Or if not that, would have appeared to be having a mild seizure.
I´ll miss your Lucifer reactions sooo damn much! It was a beautiful journey! Hope you guys will react to some more Lucifer materials that eventually appear, like BTS, bloopers, interviews (in fact there are some good ones already, with Tom and Lauren, the showrunners). Anyway...thank you a lot for all this! Love from Brazil!!
You know the thing that really did it for me was Lucifer sitting in the therapist chair!!! That was so powerful and so Lucifer to me!!! Perfect ! And of course the "Hello Detective"
It was just PERFECT! They could see each other but they had to be careful so that Rory would never know. It's sad that she had to get angry enough to go back to the past, but at least now they can be together forever, the three of them, and eventually when Trixie, Charlie, Linda dies they can too visit all of them in heaven (or if by any reason some of them ended up in hell by any guilty Lucifer can help them anyway, it's the PERFECT ENDING!)
Helluva ride ! Jumped on via 'The Flash' reactions IIRC and then 'Lucifer 1x01' came up in your feed and I remember thinking "Oh this'll be good, a show I love that's _right_ in their wheelhouse". Very glad not to be wrong :).
Thoroughly enjoyed watching it all over again through your eyes. You girls are awesome! Your reactions were just priceless and I felt exactly the same way. It was such a beautiful series finale! Lucifer is truly one of the very best shows ever made! I’m going to miss Lucifer so very much💔😭😈❤️
showrunners said in interviews that this scene was not only Chloe and Lucifer saying goodbye, but also Tom and Lauren, so all the emotions and tears in this episode were real, and it makes it even more painful.
don't know if this season had the biggest special effects budget, but they really showed us how impressive it is when angels go to battle. from rory's blade wings to amenadiel's spinning jump to lucifer angry flying to save chloe from a shooter.
That ending was so freaking great 👍❤️💓 Piano scene was very sad but so beautiful... I cried when saw it... I liked how they made a farewell so comforting to each other, even recreated two piano scenes from season 1. And I truly loved that ending. Everybody got what deserved. Amenadiel was so great in that white outfit, Dan finally reunited with Charlotte in Heaven, Charlie got WINGS 🥰 and so on. And Lucifer became soul therapist in Hell, following Linda's footsteps OMG. She would be proud of him. That therapy scene was so hilarious 🤣 And finally Lucifer realised that better to have doors, even in Hell. But that Deckerstar reunion though 💞💓❤️ I screamed out of joy when I saw it 🥰 Also that scene from the very ending looked pretty much like the ending scene from the pilot, even the red light, what's actually cool 👍👏 I'm going to miss that show 🥺😭
Nice girls. I discovered Lucifer this summer. And I reviewed every episode with you. Because you were just as worried as I was. The last episode made me cry for a whole week. And, oh, yes. I also rushed to read fan fiction. In my universe, of course, everything would be different. But. The original ending is just as beautiful. Because it gives us faith in true love. You are the best. See you on your channel! With love from Russia.
Oh my goodness.....y'all got me tearing up again. I didn't bother thinking about what I wanted for DeckerStar (mostly) because I felt like I could trust the writers/cast/crew to give me the kind of ending I wanted. I wasn't even sure what kind of ending I wanted for the show but this kinda felt right....well I would have loved the show to go on forever but if it has to end then this was a good one. There were 2 things I really, really wanted from this season. One was for Ella to find her good guy & I'm so glad she found that with Carol. What I wanted more than that though was to see Dan in Heaven with Charlotte. I would have been really bummed if we didn't get that. I'm so very happy I got both of those things. The only little thing that would have been the double icing on the cake was if we had gotten more Trixie but I could probably say that about every season & every episode.
I am so glad you all loved the season. I've seen lots of distress on Twitter about it. Personally I'm with you, it was a wonderful season and a wonderful show
Great reactions you two! Loved every single one of it❤️ one show I recommend is Once upon a time. It is very emotional and heartbreaking sometimes, but also thrilling and mind - blowing 😉
Lucifer couldn’t go back and forth until rory returned to the future else they make it so rory never travels to the past, once she did he can go back and forth as he wants
I have absolutely loved going on the Lucifer journey with you. It's been great. I am grateful that you both chose to react to Lucifer. Thanks for the memories. Would you consider watching Julie and the Phantoms?
The only problem I had with the final season was that there were barely any interactions between lucifer and Trixie. I was surprised they didn't show him say goodbye to her since Trixie was pretty much attached to lucifer in the last few seasons.
So, what the explanation they were trying to give, was... . 1) If Lucifer doesn't disappear, Rory won't time-travel to find out why. 2) If she doesn't do that, Lucifer will NEVER have the epiphany about Hell needing a healer rather than a warden. 3) Which might well cause him to take up God's Throne...because he'd never have realized it wasn't for him. 4) And that might well lead to all sorts of badness. . The reason they can't change anything, is because if Rory doesn't go back, then none of the revelations Lucifer has since her arrival will have happened at all. So no matter what, if she doesn't go back, Lucifer will become God instead of Hell's therapist. More importantly...Dan would never get to Heaven...because no one would ever think to put him back in his proper Hell Loop to deal with his shit. . Unfortunately, there's really nothing they could do about it. Rory MUST be enraged enough to break time to find answers. Lucifer CANNOT be a part of her life...at all. If she doesn't hate him, she can't set things in motion. If she doesn't go back, Lucifer will never become what he needs to be. He has to go, at least until Rory returns in the future. Once she's back, he's free to come or go as he pleases again. . The thing is, though...what was the original triggering event...before Rory ever time-traveled? We'll never know.
That time loop thing is far more complicated than we think. If Rory hadn't been angry at her father, she wouldn't have gone back in time and Lucifer wouldn't have discovered his calling, not only because he wouldn't have saved her, but also because he wouldn't have helped Dan to go to heaven. I consider it was probably the only way for Dan to get rid of guilt - it was Rory, who took him to the Earth, so he could meet Trixie. I cried a lot, but now I see that all of this was necessary. Chloe's and Lucifer's calling was to help people - she was doing it in the Police, he in hell. And to be honest, these 50 years apart was really short time in perspective of whole eternity together ❤️
If Lucifer had participated of Rory´s life, the loop would be ruined and all would be different, including Dan going to heaven! So, it´s like the butterfly effect...one single step out and nobody knows what the things would be. However, Ildy (one of the showrunners)said in an interview that she believes Lucifer visited Chloe sometimes and that´s what I want to believe too! LOL Also...I just want to say that Lauren´s cry at the piano, with her hand in front of her face, destroyed me. Those are real tears. That was the last scene they recorded in fact, so they were both very emotional, for real.
Lucifer couldn't go back and forth because Chloe nor Lucifer wanted to erase Rory that they got to know from existence, had she grown up with a father, she would have become an entirely different Rory and the other one you met in the show wouldn't have existed at all,
Yes, _DeckerStar_ on *STEROIDS* (maybe even a little crack)! My favorite thought experiment from Season 5 is even more fitting: Go back and re-watch Season 1. Imagine the season 1 version of Lucifer and Chloe suddenly here in Season 6. Or, maybe this scenario -- Lucifer and Chloe (1.0) visit a fortune teller who predicts what they both will be doing in 6 years: _"Lucifer is the 'actual devil'. He will tell Chloe he's going to hell, and she will _*_INSIST_*_ on accompanying him! They'll have a child together, Lucifer leaves them, and Chloe is OK with that."_
Also another reason that I would say Lucifer needs to do the job full time is because of the prophecy that when Lucifer meets his true love hell will be released and what is meant by that is that the souls that are trapped in hell will begin to be released. If you think about how our own guilt holds Us in hell and how only one soul got out of hell without Lucifer's help in fact actually I think all of them got out of hell with Lucifer's help maybe then there are a huge amount of backlog souls that need help and doing it as a part-time job wouldn't suffice considering there's so many more souls coming into hell at all times. The thing with being God is he is omnipotent so he can keep track of things while he's doing other things and you don't have to deal with the souls that are in heaven only the souls they're on Earth.
Also Lucifer couldn't go back and forth because this isn't MCU time travel logic, if he had raised Rory he woule have never realized Hell needed a healer
You should watch Battlestar Gallactica, the remake, because it is so emotional. You would cover it well. But be ready, it’s going to be a hard, emotional ride.
Lucifer can't go back to earth because they don't want to ruin the time loop, for everything that happened in the future, for rory going back not being mad with his father, they need to follow what rory remembered, in the future rory didn't know her father and she haven't seen his father so for the time loop to work and for the future rory to come back to the future, they need to follow the time loop which is lucifer leaving them. Btw if you didn't understand what the time loop is, the time loop is consist of all the things that rory remembered.
Time travel always creates paradox, and this ending is actually in conflict with Lucifer's idea of "free will", and make it into the type of predestined outcome. Free will doesn't mean people always choose the good ones, but most of the time bad ones. What would really happen if Lucifer choose to stay, or just pop back up half of the time? Will the instant when he decided to do that, all his (and everyone else) memory of Rory just instantly changes, and forgets everything has happened this season? What if ...
if he would have stayed or visited Chloe&Rory Rory ´s personality would have changed and the Rory they met and alredy love would not exist. There would be an other Rory but not this one. She asked to "Don´t change me"
@@Scheherasad Not sure which type of time travel rules they used here, but doesn't look like the multiverse multi-timeline type, or Rory wouldn't keep saying it's a time loop (unless she is wrong about that, she made it sounds like "back to the future" type of time travel that event will ripple from the time of diverge simultaneously) If it is a multi-timeline type, then what exactly happened in the first timeline when she hadn't come back and Lucifer abandoned her for what reason?
This doesn't conflict with free will though, because Rory made the choice to ask him to continue the loop, and Lucifer made the choice to agree. The loop hinges on free will, rather than some external effect.
@@AZDfox By definition, free means they could choose differently, but any of them choose differently what would be the result is exactly? The age-old question of God giving freewill to everyone, but if he already knows everything including the future, is there really free will, or just name only?
I don't know if you guys know but Dylan O'Brien posted on his Instagram that they are making a teen wolf movie and I am freaking out 😍😍❤️ he said " more stydia more teen wolf "😁
Yeah. I couldn’t stop crying too. I hated that he didn’t get to see his daughter grow up but he should be able to spend time with her now that she finished the time loop.
Yeah. She probably travels to hell occasionally to visit her parents.
Yes thats just it now that rory knows she can travel
Writers did say in an interview that Lucifer would've been able to visit Chloe as long as he didn't interrupt the time loop, so my head cannon is that they still secretly met up with each other and passed messages to each other from time to time as long as Rory didn't find out. Helped me deal with the ending anyway haha.
Same, I like to think he was there by Chloe's side for the birth and would leave gifts on birthdays and holidays and Chloe would just say they were from her
I don't think that can happen because he gave his word to his daughter. He never would do that to Rory.
In theory, there's nothing that stops Lucifer from visiting before Rory starts remembering him... or for "Uncle Michael" to come over for the weekend... or for Chloe to need to stop by Lux for a couple of hours every blue moon.
I really don't understand this loop logic, Rory only comes back to the past because Lucifer did leave them, but if he don't she would'nt had needed to and everything would just goes by normaly.
@@Shurororu Because without Rory, Lucifer never decides to go back and heal Hell; she decided that was more important than her having a stable childhood.
I love the idea that Chloes heaven is wherever Lucifer is
exactly like Eve being Maze's hell Lucifer is Chloe's heaven great point
This episode was a rollercoaster of emotions. I couldn't stop crying for days. Thank you both for taking us on this journey. I'm so glad you started the show. I've enjoyed all your reactions and I'll miss them. 💕
I think the ending was perfect. The reason Lucifer couldn’t go back and forth was that one the time loop and two time passes differently in hell days can be years.
Exactly-the loop had to hold. Lucifer only realized his calling because of his experience with Rory, who only traveled back in time because of her anger, which she only had because Lucifer wasn't there her whole life. Being part of her life would've broken the loop and potentially imperiled the whole thing-not just all the other souls in Hell for whom Lucifer was a chance out, but also Dan, who only got his salvation because he talked to Trixie, which only happened because Angry Rory brought him up from Hell in the first place.
@@andrewharrison5288 exactly. altering anything when two parallel universes cross paths will have catastrophic ripple effects. kinda like how loki the series explains it.
@@ancestormoon7 Parallel Universes has nothing to do with it. It's all about one specific timeline and a set amount of time within that timeline in which events need to play out exactly as intended.
@@andrewharrison5288 not to mention if not for Rory he would have become God and definitely Luci would have loathed that job; and still don't not know how it would have worked with Chloe being his consultant in Heaven while she was much alive and human.
also, chloe gets old but not him.. with the time she would have felt bad.. this way.. they remember each other as they were the last time they saw each other.
The only thing missing is Lucifer saying goodbye to Trixie. I can't see him leaving and not telling her goodbye!
Right? Or literally anything cluing Trixie in on the reality of the celestials, because does she even know it's all real yet? I assume the half angel sister will clue her in eventually, but it sucks that we didn't get to see that.
They have been doing their best to ignore Trixie since season 4. She was great in the beginning but then I think her cute factor started to fade and the acting level wasn't quite on the level of the rest of the cast. Case in point, when Dan died and she cried you could tell it was forced. Granted that's one of the hardest things for an actor to do on demand.
@@sadfaery not everybody needs to know about the celestial side of things
@@spooditt6968 True, but given that Trixie's mother is in a serious relationship with Lucifer and is now having a half-angel baby by him, not to mention the fact that Trixie's best friend, Maze, is a demon, it might possibly be a good idea for her to know. Especially since we know that her baby sister, Rory, will have wings and age more slowly than Trixie will as a regular human. She will have to know eventually anyway, and I just would have liked to have seen that happen in the show before it ended.
@@sadfaery Trixie would've already known. You don't have to see it, just imagine how it would go
Okay hear me out…. A spin off show called city of angels where we follow Rory, trixie, and Charlie. I do what it could be fully about but I’m down for just seeing the characters again
Yesssss!!!!!!
Yesss Maze could pop in with Eve, Amenagod, maybe some more angel babies since he said he wants the angels to spend time on earth. Sadly no Lucifer and Chloe though.
@@gamerguy1499 I mean lucifer could make an a appearance
Then I want Scarlett who plays Trixie to grow up a bit, I mean, it's not fun if it isn't the same actress
they'd have to recast trixie and charlie as adults, but I could see it being good.
And how cool is it that even after death rory can still see her mom anytime she wants, perks of being an angel huh!!!
And her dad
@@foxbeast1823 yeah. She probably visits them occasionally since the time loop is over and she knows her dad didn't abandon her.
The fact that they didn’t show him watching from the window or him holding her when she was a baby, all of the things that the showrunners said he did but they didn’t film.
Why couldn’t they put pictures of Rory on his desk to imply that Chloe gives Amenadiel pictures or messages to give to Lucifer.
All those things would have made it easier.
It's so sad Lucifer couldn't be with Chloe for the rest of her human life but at least they end up together for eternity. Lucifer just couldn't go to earth to see Rory because she need to go through a life without her dad for her to get so mad to go to the past so for Lucifer to find his path to be hell healer.
Even before I finally finished the show, I knew that a lot of peoples' headcannon is that Lucifer and Chloe saw each other in secret through the years and just made sure that Rory never found out. It's definitely a nice thought.
Yeah that piano scene KILLED ME. I remember crying my eyes out at 2am, and it took me 3 days to get over this scene alone. So bittersweet but the best scene for them
Bittersweet is the only type of ending worth having.
Amenadiel doesn't have to worry about the time loop. The time loop is necessary because Rory coming back in time and interacting with Lucifer is the only way Lucifer does what he has to do as quickly as possible (if at all). And all that only happens if Rory gets mad enough to time travel, which took 30+ years of anger at Lucifer for her to achieve. If Lucifer visits even one time (you guys know what he's like), his resolve melts and he isn't able to do what he needs to do.
Remember, that lifetime on Earth is just a blip of their future lifetime together. You don't need to feel bad for them, you don't even need to feel bad for Chloe. She understood and took it like a champion.
Rory asked to "Don´t change me" and Lucifer promised it and he never breaks his promises. If he would have stayed or visited Chloe&Rory her personality would have changed. There would be an other Rory but not the one Chloe&Lucifer met and already love. They did it out of love for their daughter Rory. Parents do sacrifice many things for their children sometimes even their own happiness.
Also out of compassion for the damned, but yeah.
It wasn't that Lucifer couldn't and didn't want to do both, it's that he had to stay in hell so Rory would resent him so she'd go back and help him find his purpose.
That's what the loop requires.
My thought is that in a non-time travel sense, if Lucifer had come up for "a weekend" 1) hundreds of years would pass in Hell, and 2) he wouldn't want to go back because he would be spending, to him, thousands of years away from his growing daughter and the love of his life. So it's not purely "because time travel stuff"
I really don't understand this loop logic, Rory only comes back to the past because Lucifer did leave them, but if he don't she would'nt had needed to and everything would just goes by normaly since Chloe was already pregnant, but I do understand the purpose thing, is more like Lucifer choose to leave them because he choose his purpose over them by going to heal every soul in hell, and with Chloe going to help him after he help her the whole life, was really cool
@@Shurororu Yeah, Time Travel Logic is a bit complicated.
It's like Family Guy when Stewie's time traveling led to the big bang. He created the big bang so it could create him so he could create it.
It's really weird. But yes, this way Lucifer fulfills his purpose while Chloe fulfills hers down in LA helping to clean up the department and build a better police force.
A "And they lived happily ever after" ending with them just living both lives easily might have been cute, but also could have felt cheap. This way it has weight to it, and they still get to be together in the end forever, while finally completing all that character growth.
@@Shurororu it was Rory coming back in time that caused lucifer to figure out his calling, to figure out the last of his issues…if she never came back, then the fears Chloe felt about the unstableness of their relationship would continue…
So the issue is that the whole rage Rory had is what led to her traveling back in the first place, and all the events, including Lucifer talking her down from
a dark path. That last moment was key in him realizing his and hell's purpose. The only way to guarantee that chain of events was to repeat them. It's a bootstrap paradox, the trick with those is realizing they're CLOSED loops, they have no origin point.
If he goes back and forth then Rory never gets mad enough to time travel and he would have never gotten the idea to help lost souls and even Dan would be stuck in hell because she never brought him up and he would have never possessed Vincent and thus never gotten closure its a huge loop that affects more than just his relationship with Chloe and Rory.
About Lucifer becoming the therapist in Hell...it's also a throwback to season 5 where Dr. Linda says to Lucifer, "That's *very* insightful Lucifer. Maybe you should become a counselor".
Wonderful reaction, ladies!!!! Here's hoping another show eventually comes along that intrigues us as much, moves us as strongly.
An amazing fulling ending to an incredible show!
Seeing everyone get their happy ending , Deckstar is one of the best tv couples I seen is years
this ending was for us fans
Great reaction, my wife couldn't stop crying too.
This last episode i literally just broke down and cried my fav show is over and I literally can't deal
My favorite show.
Funny, sad, insightful. I'll miss it 😢
Anybody else thought it ended when the screen went black after the piano scene? I literally got up and was like HOLD UP. I was about to start throwing hands with the show writers if they left it at that. 🤣🤣🤣
You girls have made watching Lucifer all the more special. I am so glad I stumbled on your channel. Thank you girls. PS I love the lab always being there with you.
Hey Feels , I really enjoyed watching all of this with you. Little tidbit from the comic this is based on. When all creation comes to an end and all is finished , Azrael is the last being left. She turns out the lights and and closes the door.
the reason he can't go back and forth between earth and hell is because baby Rory cant see him growing up otherwise she never would have grown up to be angry with him, meaning that she never would have time travelled, meaninggggg that non of this season would have happend and lucifer never would have realised he needed to help lost souls
The showrunners realized they messed up and started doing interviews where they said that: “he got to hold her”, “he watches his girls from the shadows”, “he and Chloe will occasionally meet up as long as it doesn’t effect the timeline”, etc.
That’s great… IF THEY ACTUALLY FILMED IT.
Lucifer had to stay away to preserve the timeline and make sure Rory gets angry enough to travel back in time to give Lucifer that idea
I never before seen the series of Lucifer but watched each and every episode on your channel!! I too enjoyed it seeing it for the first time like you. You two are so amazing and I love your channel!!!
Closed Loop Paradoxes are a tricky thing. The showrunners were bold going down this route. I'll give them credit for that.
Plus, they found the perfect balance of fate and free will. The time loop (fate) only continues because Lucifer and Rory CHOOSE to continue it.
He can't go back and forth because the only reason his daughter goes back in time to kill him before he could disappear is because he disappeared and the only reason he figures out what his true purpose is is because he met his daughter who was angry at him for disappearing...
OMG i have been waiting for this reaction from u guys all week OMG i've been watching Lucifer since day ONE but wow i couldnt have picture a better ending it for a great series like this its truly reminds me when Charmed and Shadowhunters wrapped up. I just so thankful to Netflix for giving this great show a 2nd chance and as usual what a great reaction throughout the entire series ladies stay blessed.
I LOVED THIS SHOW, and I loved your reactions! Been watching since the 100 season 5!
Even if lucifer couldn't spend time with his daughter growing up, rory can now visit Chloe and lucifer in hell whenever she wants to because she's an angel
Rory was literally asking him to save her life. If he didn’t leave she wouldn’t become the daughter he came to love. That’s what the time loop meant. The two of them sacrificed years together for their daughter. So she could become the bad ass she is.
no.. was not just that.. if she did not travel in time, lucifer would not figure out his call, it would not help Dan to solve his guilt and several other reasons.
Also.. eventually chloe would get old but not him.. how chloe would felt about that? This way was perfect.
This is also Earth 666 in the arrowverse.
Just in case you didn't watch the crisis of infinite Earth crossover that someone shows up to Lucifer and makes a deal with him from one of the other shows.
Only started the show just over a month ago, and finished it tonight. One of the best shows I've ever watched, love the cast so much, got a feeling it won't be too long until I watch it again, just loved it!
If he did go to see his daughter grow up, she wouldn't have been so mad at him to send herself back in time. Then he wouldn't have been the healer he became. As she said, it's just a blip for them. Sure she lived like 20 some odd years of anger, but now they have an eternity to be a family.
“I need a titanic ending” I lol’d so hard. I’m glad we got it though.
I’ve never seen so much crying in one video you guys must be so dehydrated.
Btw did you notice Linda’s ex-husband still in hell at the end.
according to the showrunners Chloe died 50 years after Lucifer left. How many hell years is this? And Reese and Le Mac are still there. Some souls never learn
@@Scheherasad Reese is a tough case. His guilt is probably that he loves Linda so much he can't let her be free. For him, it's not simply coming to terms with guilt, because to do so will also require him to let go of unrequited love which was so strong it drove him to become a murderer.
I love the ending they really should do a spin off series with Rory! That would be nice
They cant, they are inmortals.. actors get old..
Also, this was such a perfect ending, that I would not like to add anymore.
@@angellestat2730 ik I’m talking about the actor that plays Rory she’s only 26 in real life and they can have a all new cast on the show with her future where she meets people
@@TonyAdams95 it would be weird doing a spin off of angels, without showing GOD or Lucifer, or chloe (because she can go to visit them).
Unless IA as faceapp become more popular, allowing some actors to have an appareance, not sure if it worth it.
You can easily notice the age difference on Lucifer and Amenadiel from season 1 to 6.
If it is a small spin off, only one season.. then it would be ok. But with such a good ending.. not sure if I would risk that.
Yeah, Rory characters looks like she has a lot of potential, but as I said, I am too happy with this ending..
@@angellestat2730 I mean the actors that played Lucifer and Amenadiel can make a appearance every once in a while just not often
@@angellestat2730 and there are computer animations they can use to make someone not look as old but yeah it is a great ending
I'm so happy you guys loved the ending because there's been some mixed views on it. I loved it and thought it was such a beautiful way to end it. The piano scene 😭❤ Lauren's tears are real btw. And the last scene is actually the very last scene they shot.
I get the mixed reviews. That's always going to happen. But the base-line comparison is other Lucifer episodes, and while this probably isn't perfect, it is about as close as you can get to full catharsis for the characters involved.
I'm crying again re-watching this with you guys but I'm ngl, I'm also cracking tf up because it just came to me that this is how I looked watching it the first time. Ugh, us lucifans are so dramatic but can you blame us? It's such a good show with a perfect ending.
I love your reactions by the way. You represent so much of us
Luckily Joe and Ildy confirmed That Luci Visited Chloe from Time to time and just couldn‘t Show himself to Rory cause of his Promise. That calmed my broken heart A LOT
I get why they wouldn't show that, for fear that it reduces the impact at their final meeting. But it would have been cool to see him and her watching their sleeping daughter together.
@@eliteteamkiller319 I read a fanfiction that solution I loved!! While Rory was in the past Luci visited Chloe at her deathbed and shortly before Rory arrived back in the future, Luci said "I'll see you soon, my love" and left. That would have soothed all my wounds and the meeting at the end with that not-longing, but lovable kiss would have made every sense.
I really enjoyed your reaction to this show. Sorry it’s over but all good things come to an end! So glad this was a happy one even thought this episode had me balling like a baby. 🙂
3:45
"netflix is gonna hear from me"
That made me laugh
So few shoes screw up at the end… but Lucifer nailed the landing. They did so well! A few side notes (1) Apparently they had extended family in the Chloe death scene (inc. old Trixie etc) but it didn’t work… to many people to slow it all down. They went with the meat of the scene. (2) There is a thought that that woman on the couch at the end in Lucifers counselling session was the “mean girl” from S1E1 that Lucifer warns there was “a special place in hell” for
@Gaffa Oh wow, maybe you're right...it just could be S1E1 "mean girl"! Kind of looks like her if you grow her up and add some punk elements.
There would be one little plot hole if they put the whole family there: Rory would have disappeared for a moment right before their eyes. Or if not that, would have appeared to be having a mild seizure.
I´ll miss your Lucifer reactions sooo damn much! It was a beautiful journey! Hope you guys will react to some more Lucifer materials that eventually appear, like BTS, bloopers, interviews (in fact there are some good ones already, with Tom and Lauren, the showrunners). Anyway...thank you a lot for all this! Love from Brazil!!
You know the thing that really did it for me was Lucifer sitting in the therapist chair!!! That was so powerful and so Lucifer to me!!! Perfect ! And of course the "Hello Detective"
It was just PERFECT! They could see each other but they had to be careful so that Rory would never know. It's sad that she had to get angry enough to go back to the past, but at least now they can be together forever, the three of them, and eventually when Trixie, Charlie, Linda dies they can too visit all of them in heaven (or if by any reason some of them ended up in hell by any guilty Lucifer can help them anyway, it's the PERFECT ENDING!)
Helluva ride ! Jumped on via 'The Flash' reactions IIRC and then 'Lucifer 1x01' came up in your feed and I remember thinking "Oh this'll be good, a show I love that's _right_ in their wheelhouse". Very glad not to be wrong :).
Thoroughly enjoyed watching it all over again through your eyes. You girls are awesome! Your reactions were just priceless and I felt exactly the same way. It was such a beautiful series finale!
Lucifer is truly one of the very best shows ever made! I’m going to miss Lucifer so very much💔😭😈❤️
I love your reaction and I knew you’d cry!
showrunners said in interviews that this scene was not only Chloe and Lucifer saying goodbye, but also Tom and Lauren, so all the emotions and tears in this episode were real, and it makes it even more painful.
Yes, Chloe is so strong 🥺
Share this show with you two was amazing! Love u girls 💗
Even having watched the show and rewatching it with y'all still brings tears to my eyes
I am glad to go through this together 💞💜✨ lucifer forever , emotional rewatch for me 🥺🥲 love you both💗💗
I will miss this show so much!
I just finished watching the show last night and watching this video I'm crying even harder than I did the first time I saw these episodes.
at 6:59 your dog was just like stfu then went right back down lol
Well just like Lucifer himself, I didn’t lie. Many tears. Loved your reactions. Job well done ladies look forward to more.
don't know if this season had the biggest special effects budget, but they really showed us how impressive it is when angels go to battle. from rory's blade wings to amenadiel's spinning jump to lucifer angry flying to save chloe from a shooter.
That ending was so freaking great 👍❤️💓
Piano scene was very sad but so beautiful... I cried when saw it... I liked how they made a farewell so comforting to each other, even recreated two piano scenes from season 1.
And I truly loved that ending. Everybody got what deserved. Amenadiel was so great in that white outfit, Dan finally reunited with Charlotte in Heaven, Charlie got WINGS 🥰 and so on. And Lucifer became soul therapist in Hell, following Linda's footsteps OMG. She would be proud of him. That therapy scene was so hilarious 🤣 And finally Lucifer realised that better to have doors, even in Hell. But that Deckerstar reunion though 💞💓❤️ I screamed out of joy when I saw it 🥰
Also that scene from the very ending looked pretty much like the ending scene from the pilot, even the red light, what's actually cool 👍👏
I'm going to miss that show 🥺😭
i was holding it together reasonably well and then when i saw dan and charlotte i actually screamed out my tears too
This episode made me ugly cry so hard. It was almost perfect, but not enough Trixie! It needed more Trixie.
Nice girls. I discovered Lucifer this summer. And I reviewed every episode with you. Because you were just as worried as I was. The last episode made me cry for a whole week. And, oh, yes. I also rushed to read fan fiction. In my universe, of course, everything would be different. But. The original ending is just as beautiful. Because it gives us faith in true love. You are the best. See you on your channel! With love from Russia.
6:57 doggo be like : why the hooman really excited about 😆
I couldn't stop crying as well after binging it. I watched it all in one sitting.
Thank you for the reactions! I'm gonna miss your Lucifer videos.
I just bawled my eyes out again watching this 😭😭😭
Awesome reactions guys! I balled my eyes out last two episodes.So sad its over but I got my closure.
Not me here crying with you on a Sunday afternoon!
I think in a way Rory is named after Lucifer, Aurora is the dawn.
I cried so much during these episodes and this finale. Omg same reaction at the end as you guys 🥰🥺
Oh my goodness.....y'all got me tearing up again.
I didn't bother thinking about what I wanted for DeckerStar (mostly) because I felt like I could trust the writers/cast/crew to give me the kind of ending I wanted. I wasn't even sure what kind of ending I wanted for the show but this kinda felt right....well I would have loved the show to go on forever but if it has to end then this was a good one.
There were 2 things I really, really wanted from this season. One was for Ella to find her good guy & I'm so glad she found that with Carol. What I wanted more than that though was to see Dan in Heaven with Charlotte. I would have been really bummed if we didn't get that. I'm so very happy I got both of those things.
The only little thing that would have been the double icing on the cake was if we had gotten more Trixie but I could probably say that about every season & every episode.
I am so glad you all loved the season. I've seen lots of distress on Twitter about it. Personally I'm with you, it was a wonderful season and a wonderful show
Great reactions you two! Loved every single one of it❤️ one show I recommend is Once upon a time. It is very emotional and heartbreaking sometimes, but also thrilling and mind - blowing 😉
Enjoyed the highs and lows of an excellent show lol was relatable see you guys ball on the regular, me too 😂
I was already crying when the g note came in, how could they do that to me
Lucifer couldn’t go back and forth until rory returned to the future else they make it so rory never travels to the past, once she did he can go back and forth as he wants
You two are the soppiest pair! Mind you, I was just the same. Great reactions girls.
It's been a long journey thanks girls big fan
Watched all yours 169 Lucifer reaction videos, it has been long and amazing journey, sad that came to end :) :(
I have absolutely loved going on the Lucifer journey with you. It's been great. I am grateful that you both chose to react to Lucifer. Thanks for the memories.
Would you consider watching Julie and the Phantoms?
The only problem I had with the final season was that there were barely any interactions between lucifer and Trixie. I was surprised they didn't show him say goodbye to her since Trixie was pretty much attached to lucifer in the last few seasons.
So, what the explanation they were trying to give, was...
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1) If Lucifer doesn't disappear, Rory won't time-travel to find out why.
2) If she doesn't do that, Lucifer will NEVER have the epiphany about Hell needing a healer rather than a warden.
3) Which might well cause him to take up God's Throne...because he'd never have realized it wasn't for him.
4) And that might well lead to all sorts of badness.
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The reason they can't change anything, is because if Rory doesn't go back, then none of the revelations Lucifer has since her arrival will have happened at all. So no matter what, if she doesn't go back, Lucifer will become God instead of Hell's therapist. More importantly...Dan would never get to Heaven...because no one would ever think to put him back in his proper Hell Loop to deal with his shit.
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Unfortunately, there's really nothing they could do about it. Rory MUST be enraged enough to break time to find answers. Lucifer CANNOT be a part of her life...at all. If she doesn't hate him, she can't set things in motion. If she doesn't go back, Lucifer will never become what he needs to be. He has to go, at least until Rory returns in the future. Once she's back, he's free to come or go as he pleases again.
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The thing is, though...what was the original triggering event...before Rory ever time-traveled? We'll never know.
It's a closed loop paradox; Rory going back was ALWAYS the original triggering event.
That time loop thing is far more complicated than we think. If Rory hadn't been angry at her father, she wouldn't have gone back in time and Lucifer wouldn't have discovered his calling, not only because he wouldn't have saved her, but also because he wouldn't have helped Dan to go to heaven. I consider it was probably the only way for Dan to get rid of guilt - it was Rory, who took him to the Earth, so he could meet Trixie. I cried a lot, but now I see that all of this was necessary. Chloe's and Lucifer's calling was to help people - she was doing it in the Police, he in hell. And to be honest, these 50 years apart was really short time in perspective of whole eternity together ❤️
I didn’t cry once because I know everybody was going to end up together nobody’s gonna die
He couldn’t go back and forth because even that could change the future that Rory was from
If Lucifer had participated of Rory´s life, the loop would be ruined and all would be different, including Dan going to heaven! So, it´s like the butterfly effect...one single step out and nobody knows what the things would be. However, Ildy (one of the showrunners)said in an interview that she believes Lucifer visited Chloe sometimes and that´s what I want to believe too! LOL
Also...I just want to say that Lauren´s cry at the piano, with her hand in front of her face, destroyed me. Those are real tears. That was the last scene they recorded in fact, so they were both very emotional, for real.
Lucifer couldn't go back and forth because Chloe nor Lucifer wanted to erase Rory that they got to know from existence, had she grown up with a father, she would have become an entirely different Rory and the other one you met in the show wouldn't have existed at all,
Yes, _DeckerStar_ on *STEROIDS* (maybe even a little crack)!
My favorite thought experiment from Season 5 is even more fitting:
Go back and re-watch Season 1. Imagine the season 1 version of Lucifer and Chloe suddenly here in Season 6.
Or, maybe this scenario -- Lucifer and Chloe (1.0) visit a fortune teller who predicts what they both will be doing in 6 years:
_"Lucifer is the 'actual devil'. He will tell Chloe he's going to hell, and she will _*_INSIST_*_ on accompanying him! They'll have a child together, Lucifer leaves them, and Chloe is OK with that."_
it was fun watching your reactions to the whole show :))
Also another reason that I would say Lucifer needs to do the job full time is because of the prophecy that when Lucifer meets his true love hell will be released and what is meant by that is that the souls that are trapped in hell will begin to be released.
If you think about how our own guilt holds Us in hell and how only one soul got out of hell without Lucifer's help in fact actually I think all of them got out of hell with Lucifer's help maybe then there are a huge amount of backlog souls that need help and doing it as a part-time job wouldn't suffice considering there's so many more souls coming into hell at all times.
The thing with being God is he is omnipotent so he can keep track of things while he's doing other things and you don't have to deal with the souls that are in heaven only the souls they're on Earth.
Also Lucifer couldn't go back and forth because this isn't MCU time travel logic, if he had raised Rory he woule have never realized Hell needed a healer
You should watch Battlestar Gallactica, the remake, because it is so emotional. You would cover it well. But be ready, it’s going to be a hard, emotional ride.
I was doing okay but then they had to sneak Dan and Charlotte in heaven in there... Never thought I'd cry over a damn pudding cup
I like to think Lucifer could make trips now and then to visit Chloe. She was strong, but he also helped make her strong . . .
Lucifer can't go back to earth because they don't want to ruin the time loop, for everything that happened in the future, for rory going back not being mad with his father, they need to follow what rory remembered, in the future rory didn't know her father and she haven't seen his father so for the time loop to work and for the future rory to come back to the future, they need to follow the time loop which is lucifer leaving them. Btw if you didn't understand what the time loop is, the time loop is consist of all the things that rory remembered.
Time travel always creates paradox, and this ending is actually in conflict with Lucifer's idea of "free will", and make it into the type of predestined outcome. Free will doesn't mean people always choose the good ones, but most of the time bad ones.
What would really happen if Lucifer choose to stay, or just pop back up half of the time? Will the instant when he decided to do that, all his (and everyone else) memory of Rory just instantly changes, and forgets everything has happened this season?
What if ...
if he would have stayed or visited Chloe&Rory Rory ´s personality would have changed and the Rory they met and alredy love would not exist. There would be an other Rory but not this one. She asked to "Don´t change me"
@@Scheherasad Not sure which type of time travel rules they used here, but doesn't look like the multiverse multi-timeline type, or Rory wouldn't keep saying it's a time loop (unless she is wrong about that, she made it sounds like "back to the future" type of time travel that event will ripple from the time of diverge simultaneously)
If it is a multi-timeline type, then what exactly happened in the first timeline when she hadn't come back and Lucifer abandoned her for what reason?
This doesn't conflict with free will though, because Rory made the choice to ask him to continue the loop, and Lucifer made the choice to agree. The loop hinges on free will, rather than some external effect.
@@AZDfox By definition, free means they could choose differently, but any of them choose differently what would be the result is exactly?
The age-old question of God giving freewill to everyone, but if he already knows everything including the future, is there really free will, or just name only?
I don't know if you guys know but Dylan O'Brien posted on his Instagram that they are making a teen wolf movie and I am freaking out 😍😍❤️ he said " more stydia more teen wolf "😁