An Artist Should Quit Their Day Job As Soon As They Can - Jason Satterlund
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I will not quit my job until my career can support me financially.
Smart
Agreed, me too
You'll never get there then buddy. While you're fetching paper from the fax machine in the office, some hungry mofo from detroit quits his job and travels to la with just a dream and kicks in the door of some Hollywood producer, gets his feet wet and learns the ropes before his big break.
Nothings gonna fall on your lap, gotta go get it. How hungry are you?
@@Slynell1 ironically I agree with as well lol, I'm no screen writer but I am a composer. I've managed to get 4 different publishing contracts in several continents from home while still having my job. The route you mentioned doesnt seem possible at all lol but it could happen for him that way. I think the question isn't "how hungry is he?" But rather "does he have to starve?" Only you screen writers know this...
LA is now falling under a declared emergency for the Coronavirus and the US economy is collapsing. Maybe need to rethink this strategy.
Every business is falling. The whole stock market is crashing. Not just film.
nothing is falling. we passed coronavirus in 60s . fucking communist countries
Most artists just aren’t that lucky, I regret to say. For around seven years, I’ve been trying to succeed as a writer, but I’ve only made around thirty dollars off of my writing, to my utter disappointment. As of now, I’m living with my parents, but I know I can’t do that forever. Other than being a writer, I also want to find a wife, get married, and hopefully have a family. Sadly, most women, despite what they might say, won’t date starving artists. Thus far, I just don’t see how writing fiction will lead to a sustainable income, let alone future. If I force myself to get a soulless job, I will be miserable, but at same time, if I remain in the situation that I’m in now, I will also be miserable. Regardless of what I do, there just doesn’t seem to be a realistic way out for me. No one, it seems, cares for artists, including most artists. If an artist becomes successful, people might care, but otherwise, no one really cares for the deeper pleasures of life.
Joseph Logsdon you will get your opportunity!! Keep grinding and stay motivated. Don’t give up.
@@McKinzieENT I hate to put it this way but I'm fairly certain most PEOPLE don't date people who don't have a lot of a money--especially if they're looking for a long term relationship. It's not a "women aren't being honest" thing. It's a "people want don't want to date people who can't give equally to a relationship". Whether it's emotionally or more concretely, equality is important in a relationship
Amaiguri I don’t care how much money a woman makes. Sure, it will always be more convenient to date someone with money, but it should not be a requirement.
Joseph Logsdon you’re a good soul with virtuous intentions, dig deeper with the art, it should be so strong that logic and rationality is out the window
Hey Joseph. Well, unlike a lot of people who talk about what they want to do, you at least had the guts to go for it! I went the other direction: I chose to have a family. My father was the starving artist/author/poet and he bailed on all of us when I was five. I saw him twice in 16 years and he died penniless. I wasn't making the same mistake. I chose stability first. And the great thing is that now, after twenty years, we are finally at the point where my wife and kids are encouraging me to go for it and chase down the dream. There's only so many moments in the hourglass of life but you can do it!
BUNUEL - OZU - HERZOG all got their start in foreign countries and English was their second language. They didn't need to live in Hollywood and created some of the greatest films of all time. I highly doubt it's necessary to live there esp with 21st Century technology.
Also, Werner Herzog recommended to work nights to fund your independent films. That's what he did. Don't listen to this crap about not having a job.
Indeed, if we all moved to LA to make films...guess what flavour of film we would be getting in the next couple of years?...exactly
All so very true!
Thanks, I needed that. Great hair.
Jason look like he hasn't seen sunshine at all
It takes “faith” combined with “wisdom” to leap out like this. Follow the plan of God for your life. Everyone isn’t called or should leave their job. If you heard the Lord say do it, run fast. His plans for your life never fails when we’re sitting at His feet in prayer.
WOW !! You said it. Keep God 1st & he will direct your path to greatness 🙏🙏
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This is true.
Living the Dream every Day!
This is terrible advice that I believed for a long time. I finally got my head out my behind and realized YOU NEED TO WORK AND MAKE MONEY WHILE YOU WORK ON YOUR ART. You also need time to reflect on and think about your art. It’s not productive to put every single minute of your life into your art. I’ve gotten some of my best ideas while at work, while on a walk, while taking a shower. You also need to eat and pay bills and make some goals that are not, “When I hit it big, I’ll finally buy that house or start investing or saving for retirement or whatever.” You can plan those things while working on your art.
I find I am more productive with my own work and my art when I am not stressing about where my next paycheck is coming from. Stress is not a great creativity motivator.
I think also if you are just working on art you get numb to it, but if you have the breaks (like your job) like you said you get most of your ideas.
Ooohh CharLey... This is reaL, maen😓
I roger that. I own my small store for my living and do different kinds of stuff besides art, like science, religion, political science, sports, and all of that adds substantially to my art as a screenwriter. And many film directors actually say you shouldn't even attend film directing classes, you better read a lot.
I saw one of this guys other videos and I thought he was a jackass. This confirms that
Yeah just quit your job. F the bills. Easy as that
have a rich spouse.... or at least one w a job :)
Everyone's life is different.
@@ruddiato Mind = Blown.
politically incorrect and practically precisely correct fellow. "whom you know matters more than talent"
I don't know about that one chief
It's sounds nice and all, but I'm pursuing another degree to pay the bills and finance my own projects on the side. Why else be in college? It's mainly about finding work. I'm surrounded by corn here (lol) and I'm just not going to take that chance to be struggling even further. I'll quit when what I'm making from client work is equal to or greater than my regular job. That or have a years savings to be a full time freelancer and spend more time on narrative work.
Well...on the other hand, there are some truly valuable lessons to be learned doing regular, down to earth jobs, which can help build character, storytelling techniques ans just basically absorbing the human experience. Unless you want to be a technician i guess, then yeah, i guess you should jump directly into it.
One time my friend and I went out to a bar. Shortly after we met a group of people and over a general conversation, one of them asked my friend what does he do for a living?
My friend said “I’m a writer!”
And that person replied “So, you are unemployed?”
There is certainly a truth to it.
Well seeing as business owners are unemployed, I don't think that's necessarily always a bad thing 😂. As long as u have some sort of income
Now this is what i call, "selling dreams" I am a full time freelance writer and let me tell you, it is much harder than working a regular job. I have to work a minimum of 5 projects just to pay rent. I lived in LA for two months to expand my business but got nowhere. Los Angeles is a place where one has to be willing to build relationships. When I say "build relationships" im talking about selling your soul( use your imagination) My advice to anyone, is to build your own publishing, production, or writing company. Trying to break into Hollywood is like winning the lottery.l; trust me, none of us are that special. If things don't go my way in the next few years, I am already prepared to go into either journalism or Tech
Crazy advice. Writers need to work in small spurts and get a lot of inspiration from real life. Not to mention the bills.
What if an artist like me is unemployed and has no day job to quit? Should I get that day job everyone is telling me I need to have security and happiness and then quit it to be truly happy as an artist? Because I'm telling you now no one in my circle of friends or family takes an artist's life seriously at all. Basically get a job and you can stand with the normal people. Anytime I talk of venturing out to make art my living I see a smirk I want to wipe off quick smart.
I feel just the same way and have the same option, I’m choosing the art route
Well, it's your dream and who cares what the naysayers think. You're the one that's going to make it fly. If you give up it's never going to happen. Keep looking to the right people for inspiration and just go for it.
I feel u
If you can't handle rejection, or people saying that you will not make it, I suggest you find a 9-5 cause the film industry is 99% rejection. Only the really passionate hard workers survive.
@@bradebronson8835 I never said I couldn't handle rejection. I was just stating most people don't take art seriously as a career choice. Thanks for the suggestion though.
...except if you have a family that depends on you to provide income. What a stupid thing to say.
At some point we AS ARTIST have to decide if OUR VISION is worth the (often literal) sacrifice. For many of us WE ARE NOT FROM HOLLYWOOD. We don’t participate in the glamour and seduction that’s Hollywood. Yet and still we are artist we are visionary’s. The same “artist” in these comments who are listing “politically and social conscious” rhetoric as an EXCUSE as to why HIS ADVICE is folly are the same Artist who will be disappointed when their vision doesn’t take off because of rooted excuses. Atheism in your Artistry can not coexist. Mr. Jason best advice on the internet
I quit my day job many years ago and I can look back and still say, "that was a good decision.
100%
A lot to argue with in this interview (although not all of what he says by any means). Anyone looking for inspiration from a truly successful person would do well to study the story of Britt Marlin, Mike Cahill and Zal Batmanglij. They DID NOT KNOW ANYONE WHEN THEY MOVED TO LA. They had no money and the only experience they had was making a couple of short films in high school.
So why did they succeed when others did not? A lot of hard work and sheer raw talent in my view. No amount of work can make up for a basic lack of talent. I would love to see a Film Courage interview with Britt and/or Britt, Mike Cahill and Zal Batmanglij. That would be worth watching.
PS: I should mention that Britt did quit her day job ... a seriously lucrative career path with Goldman Sachs. The world would have been a much poorer place if she had not chosen to follow her heart.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_Marling
Thank you, Leo. We had the pleasure of attending the red carpet for Zal's film THE EAST in 2013 (here is the video) ow.ly/4Wio30qnqbO. Great group of people. Would love to have spoken with them longer.
@@filmcourage You still can! They seem very open to being interviewed. Thanks for the link.
@@filmcourage I second this! I would love to see Marling and Batmanglij interviewed. They have so much wisdom to share.
He look like he still with there
What do you like about Jason's advice?
LOL
It is true and authentic that's what I liked. No false hope, no wishy washy nonsense here.
Sadly, not much. But I would love you to interview Britt Marlin, Mike Cahill and Zal Batmanglij. And I am certain your viewers would enjoy the interview too and be massively appreciative.
Btw: I posted more info on the main comments section and posted here too just to be sure you saw my suggestion.
@@Tubingonline1 no false hope is crazy
Great advice. I am going to sound like an absolute nut. But I am developing something that I think will get me noticed in the industry. I know I am not alone in this feeling but I have been working on it since 2014. And in fact Film Courage has been great input into the process. I can't wait to reveal it all. Either I will be completely proven wrong, or I will surprise and delight. Given all that I understand the importance of living in the area. My hypothesis is more about writing and just exactly what is it that the industry needs out of it. Excited.
and what that would be? a script?
spill the beans brother!
Craig Hinrichs ok.. what is it?