Ladies and Gentleemn! Its really cheap here: www.gearbest.com/rc-cars/pp_351315.html?lkid=12749668 I hope it'll be usefull! :)) th-cam.com/video/VDLwauV24jA/w-d-xo.html
I did this mod with goolrc brushless and flysky transmitter. I have throttle set to 60% it's perfect, not to fast that it will break and with oil filled rear shocks it turns without rolling over. I love this mod. Thanks for posting. Fyi this mod only works with servo in his link. Normal servo is too big.
If you look at the test with the upgrades the circumference of the tyre increases at higher rpm's (due to centrifugal forces). The speed at 4970 rpm is probably significantly more than 90km/h.
If anyone watching this vid is planning on upgrading their 12428 do NOT get the 2838 like this guy get the 3650 (I got racerstar but I’m sure any of the Brands off AliExpress are all the same goolrc, surpass, blmotor, ocday, etc.). I got both of the motors and the 2838 is much smaller than the original 540 motor and it gets hot when running in this car as well as the esc it comes with in the combo. The 2838 motor is also severely underpowered on the low end and will cog like crazy and won’t run right on slow start ups or when trying to crawl over stuff (ends up just sitting there cogging). The 3650 has none of those problems and is exactly the same size as the original 540 motor so it drops right in and the holes to the motor line up exactly with the motor mount holes without having to make custom holes like you have to on the 2838. Both motors have more top end power than this truck can handle well running on 3s but the 2838 has absolutely zero low end power so I highly suggest avoiding it and going with the 3650 combo that comes with the ESC.
I wish I read your comment before buying the motor. I have very bad cogging problems now :-( Do you mind posting link to the motor you are suggesting? I found them but there seems to be a few KV ratings on them. Does the KV rating matter? I was going to buy the 5900 KV one from here www.banggood.com/Racerstar-3650-Motor-Brushless-Waterproof-Sensorless-110-RC-Car-Part-5900430039002300KV-p-1110570.html?rmmds=search&ID=518007&cur_warehouse=CN
You’re going to get cogging with a sensorless motor. Sensored brushless is much better and get a program card to program your esc. Also buy components separate it’s much better than cheap kits. Also brushed is muchhh better for crawling because of slow speed control. Just my two cents and many years of rc fun
MrMikebeben - kinda missing the point bro, I was just warning people that the 2838 size motor in this video is underpowered on the low end to the point where you won’t get it running in thick grass, trying to start uphill, or if you’re up against an obstacle because the cogging is so bad. The 3650 on the other hand doesn’t have that problem. Yea it’ll cog a liiitle on the low low end but it doesn’t have problems getting going like the 2838. Also the holes will line up with the mount, and it won’t over heat in the 12428 which the 2838 size motor has all those issues and bad. And yes of course sensored is better but that comes with a higher price tag and possible issues on installation. Most sensored motors run CCW and sensored is non reversible unless the esc has a reverse rotation setting (which mostly higher cost ESCs are gonna be the ones with that setting) and the 12428 needs a CW running motor. I’ve overcome that issue with my sensored motor/esc by cutting out a plastic anti reverse tab in the diff housing and flipping the diffs in the housings which essentially reversed the direction the motor needs to spin to make the car run in the forward direction. That being said I understand the concept of brushless vs brushed and sensorless vs sensored, but the point I was trying to get across is that most people are just tryin to go faster without spending too much and the absolute best way to do that is a cheap ass Chinese 3650 motor/esc combo and that the 2838 in this video is junk. The focus being on budget otherwise I coulda have also commented yea just get a $300 sensored setup it’ll run better. I mean duh but who is lookin to spend that much on a $70 car? Everything you said is correct just not sure it was 100% relevant to what I was trying to say or to the point of this video either(which is super cheap brushless power).
Really neat upgrade, super fast, however, Feiyue now make the FY-07 which is the same design, comes with a brushless system. Presumably this car will address the transmission problems mentioned in the comments below. Great video.
i had a 3600kv brushless motor lying around, decided to install it in this rc(wltoys 12428), i had no issues with the stock brushed motor as it was fast enough.As soon as i installed the brushless motor, after a few runs my shaft broke,replaced that,then my front diff slipped,replaced that,the buggy seemed to be fast but had lagging problems so it was definitely not for rock crawling as it would jump to 10kmph directly as u can see in the video 7:44. i only used 2s lipos for the brushless and it would break my buggy. 3s lipo is just mad for this. The rc car is back to stock and is running pretty great on 2s lipo, and its way more fun then a brushless bec it doesnt lag at all and also the rc car can be driven in rocks with no fear of anything breaking. If u want a brushless so badly then buy another platform as it will save u alot of money as ive already spend more then 120$ just on spars :)
The best way to destroy faster the transmission, faster than with the brushed stock motor. Transmission on this car is weak. I don't advise to upgrade it to brushless motor.
Arif Hassan if you were to invest a little more money in a quality esc (one that's programmable) you can adjust the power of the drag brake. also drag brake will not do damage if the drag brake did damage to the transmission the normal brakes would be 10 times worse. It's worth mentioning too that the reason brushless systems have drag brakes is to better replicate the resistance caused by the brushes on a brushed motor.
Very informative video it would be good to make more of the same for Brushed cars such as Wltoys and Fs racing as a lot of people struggle to get the right parts and waste needed money
I snapped my rear drive shaft so waiting for new one. I upgraded to oil shocks which are great for road driving but dont spring back quick enough offroad. The stock springs suck on and offroad. too bouncy or too soft. Oil shocks stopped the torque lifting the front. Metal parts are okay but i find they dont have locking nuts to prevent them undoing them selves eg. fun car for the price.
ThatsMyRc dont get either. WL toys are practically toy grad rc's. They may be cheap the quality of the parts is bad. A $75 Rc is prbably only worth $60. A $600 rc is probably worth $500. The parts just wont hold up for very long. More expensive rc's tend to also have more spare parts and upgrade parts and the brands will have better customer service. They is alot more to buy than just the car.
I just noticed the parts list is in the description. Thanks for that and excellent video. I must have watched it 20 by now to see all the steps and learning as I go.
Good job! really nice upgrade.... can you suggest a upgrade for rc HB P1003 rock crawler...I like the transmitter that you used... but I don't know which ESC and servo will match
Так не делается, хоть бы кожух с редуктора снял, может ведущая шестерня ( или как дятлы называют ПИНЬЕН) не достаёт, или наоборот. А вообще зачёт, с меня лайк.
@@vogalan2067 Thank you :) I am collecting parts right now and soon I will start putting it all together. Do you have an idea how to connect several LEDs to this controller and how to find the correct ones on the market?
good video! but this car is a rock crawler and not designed to have a high top end, perhaps you need a buggy, truggy, stadium truck, for this project. as in dont try to make a harley davidson fast and dont try to make your rice rocket pretty. ty
creative please tell me what servo you used cause i am doing a brushless upgrade and I cant figure which servo will work or fit the ones ive got have been the fatuba s3003 (too big and the micro sg 90 i think and its too week and small please help, thanks
Creative channel can you tell me the measure of the socks (front and rear) of the WLTOYS 12428?? i bought one of this but first im going to upgrade the stability with an oil filled shocks, but the car its coming from BangGood. Thnaks!!! Congrats for the channel!!! ;D
Does this same technique works on the other RC CARS?? Coz i got a car vit camera n one vit non camera....so my question is will it work vit the same technique??
quick question.....where do you fit the lights in all this? any possible way to adapt them to this configuration and work? the old ESC had this...this new one does not have..any suggestions? Thank you
Dude, I love this car. I was surprised that i already came with a bigger motor vs the fy03. What would it take for me to use a 2838 6200kv motor for my rc? I think I have it but I just want to verify your thoughts.
That's funny! With gps my stock car was only 28km/h! Your modified car looks like about 60km/h. To get faster you have to do "a little bit" more. My 12428 runs 138km/h😉 measured by gps!
CHANGING THE ENGINE, DO I NEED TO REPLACE BATTERY? BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL IS 7.4V, IN YOUR VIDEO IS 11V. ANOTHER QUESTION WILL THE RECEIVER I WILL PLACE IT WORKS ON WLTOYS 'ORIGINAL CONTROL?
I have a WLtoys 12428 and used a GPS to measure the speed , out of the box it did 35kmh not 50kmh . I did a up grade 3900kv motor 60 amp esc 3000mah 3s lipo 20kg servo metal gears 120mm wheels piggyback shocks rear duel spring front now it will do 65kmh .
I cried when you drove paddles on the street
limitless rc I fucking cringed.... like what the hell?
limitless rc ikr like wtf
limitless rc yeah and they are on backwards too
limitless rc seriously. And it looks like their on wrong too
ikr
Creative channel I can't believe how much you're channel has grown I remember when u had 100k
8:28 Three Hands
it is his wife
photos of wife pls
Duc Huy Luong hahah
Duc Huy Luong for educational research purpose.
Ladies and Gentleemn! Its really cheap here: www.gearbest.com/rc-cars/pp_351315.html?lkid=12749668
I hope it'll be usefull! :))
th-cam.com/video/VDLwauV24jA/w-d-xo.html
I did this mod with goolrc brushless and flysky transmitter. I have throttle set to 60% it's perfect, not to fast that it will break and with oil filled rear shocks it turns without rolling over. I love this mod. Thanks for posting. Fyi this mod only works with servo in his link. Normal servo is too big.
The wheel on the back of the car, is that a real replacement tire for the car?
YourAvgScientist Videos yes
Mattson McCraw yes it is, I have this and one of the tires popped of 😭😭😭 luckily I could replace it.😎😎
Upgrade alliexpress
100% yes
Yes
50 km/h / 2747 rpm = ~0,0182
4970 rpm * 0,0182 = ~90 km/h
I don't really know if it's correct but I think it's logical.
Prixo thank bro
Prixo it depends on the weight of the car, and the ampere of the motor
Prixo what does the 540 put out
If you look at the test with the upgrades the circumference of the tyre increases at higher rpm's (due to centrifugal forces). The speed at 4970 rpm is probably significantly more than 90km/h.
nope
If anyone watching this vid is planning on upgrading their 12428 do NOT get the 2838 like this guy get the 3650 (I got racerstar but I’m sure any of the Brands off AliExpress are all the same goolrc, surpass, blmotor, ocday, etc.). I got both of the motors and the 2838 is much smaller than the original 540 motor and it gets hot when running in this car as well as the esc it comes with in the combo. The 2838 motor is also severely underpowered on the low end and will cog like crazy and won’t run right on slow start ups or when trying to crawl over stuff (ends up just sitting there cogging). The 3650 has none of those problems and is exactly the same size as the original 540 motor so it drops right in and the holes to the motor line up exactly with the motor mount holes without having to make custom holes like you have to on the 2838. Both motors have more top end power than this truck can handle well running on 3s but the 2838 has absolutely zero low end power so I highly suggest avoiding it and going with the 3650 combo that comes with the ESC.
I wish I read your comment before buying the motor. I have very bad cogging problems now :-(
Do you mind posting link to the motor you are suggesting? I found them but there seems to be a few KV ratings on them. Does the KV rating matter? I was going to buy the 5900 KV one from here www.banggood.com/Racerstar-3650-Motor-Brushless-Waterproof-Sensorless-110-RC-Car-Part-5900430039002300KV-p-1110570.html?rmmds=search&ID=518007&cur_warehouse=CN
You’re going to get cogging with a sensorless motor. Sensored brushless is much better and get a program card to program your esc. Also buy components separate it’s much better than cheap kits. Also brushed is muchhh better for crawling because of slow speed control. Just my two cents and many years of rc fun
MrMikebeben - kinda missing the point bro, I was just warning people that the 2838 size motor in this video is underpowered on the low end to the point where you won’t get it running in thick grass, trying to start uphill, or if you’re up against an obstacle because the cogging is so bad. The 3650 on the other hand doesn’t have that problem. Yea it’ll cog a liiitle on the low low end but it doesn’t have problems getting going like the 2838. Also the holes will line up with the mount, and it won’t over heat in the 12428 which the 2838 size motor has all those issues and bad. And yes of course sensored is better but that comes with a higher price tag and possible issues on installation. Most sensored motors run CCW and sensored is non reversible unless the esc has a reverse rotation setting (which mostly higher cost ESCs are gonna be the ones with that setting) and the 12428 needs a CW running motor. I’ve overcome that issue with my sensored motor/esc by cutting out a plastic anti reverse tab in the diff housing and flipping the diffs in the housings which essentially reversed the direction the motor needs to spin to make the car run in the forward direction. That being said I understand the concept of brushless vs brushed and sensorless vs sensored, but the point I was trying to get across is that most people are just tryin to go faster without spending too much and the absolute best way to do that is a cheap ass Chinese 3650 motor/esc combo and that the 2838 in this video is junk. The focus being on budget otherwise I coulda have also commented yea just get a $300 sensored setup it’ll run better. I mean duh but who is lookin to spend that much on a $70 car? Everything you said is correct just not sure it was 100% relevant to what I was trying to say or to the point of this video either(which is super cheap brushless power).
Really neat upgrade, super fast, however, Feiyue now make the FY-07 which is the same design, comes with a brushless system. Presumably this car will address the transmission problems mentioned in the comments below. Great video.
i had a 3600kv brushless motor lying around, decided to install it in this rc(wltoys 12428), i had no issues with the stock brushed motor as it was fast enough.As soon as i installed the brushless motor, after a few runs my shaft broke,replaced that,then my front diff slipped,replaced that,the buggy seemed to be fast but had lagging problems so it was definitely not for rock crawling as it would jump to 10kmph directly as u can see in the video 7:44. i only used 2s lipos for the brushless and it would break my buggy. 3s lipo is just mad for this. The rc car is back to stock and is running pretty great on 2s lipo, and its way more fun then a brushless bec it doesnt lag at all and also the rc car can be driven in rocks with no fear of anything breaking. If u want a brushless so badly then buy another platform as it will save u alot of money as ive already spend more then 120$ just on spars :)
Anyone 2021 still watching these Wonderful video ❤️
The best way to destroy faster the transmission, faster than with the brushed stock motor. Transmission on this car is weak. I don't advise to upgrade it to brushless motor.
Switch Off When Not In Use also the braking feature of esc will stress the gears and the teeth will be worn out much faster
Arif Hassan if you were to invest a little more money in a quality esc (one that's programmable) you can adjust the power of the drag brake. also drag brake will not do damage if the drag brake did damage to the transmission the normal brakes would be 10 times worse. It's worth mentioning too that the reason brushless systems have drag brakes is to better replicate the resistance caused by the brushes on a brushed motor.
Mitchell Doolan oh nice thanks for info
Arif Hassan no problem just trying to help
Switch Off When Not In Use
Hey creative channel I have been waiting for me to get that on me birthday but when I watched this I went to my local rc store and got the stuff
For this upgrade all the gear inside the transmission should be of metal for the longer life!
It was also my thinking and was looking for a comment like yours.
@@TerminatorFRA yep. Wltoys gearing sucks
Very informative video it would be good to make more of the same for Brushed cars such as Wltoys and Fs racing as a lot of people struggle to get the right parts and waste needed money
Improving things is always good.
I snapped my rear drive shaft so waiting for new one. I upgraded to oil shocks which are great for road driving but dont spring back quick enough offroad. The stock springs suck on and offroad. too bouncy or too soft. Oil shocks stopped the torque lifting the front. Metal parts are okay but i find they dont have locking nuts to prevent them undoing them selves eg. fun car for the price.
sirjolly81 buy king shocks
Whoa this is cool! Vietnam?
Nice. Gears and diffs will last 2,3 batteries :)
@Oscar Villalpando 12428 is all plastic besides motor gear
@@mrmedium7984 Not true, the the later 12428 models come with metal diffs out of the factory.
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Great video man 👍👍
10:34 that torque
engine on one side of the car is a mistake.
@@test1uci this engine weighs 95g. I wonder if the 95g weight on the other side will shift the balance a bit. probably yes.
HI. Good work. I enjoyed the "balloon-tires" on max-speed..
putting aside if the upgrade is good for the car or not, great effort !
THX THX THX you show were the body can get of that wase Soo help if this vid get 10M then you have to make another vid of this😊
That;s amazing bro!
did he already do a video on filling the shocks with oil?
Molto bello l’ upgrade alla Wltoys
Great
Can you do a how to video on adding a sway bar to a wltoys 12428? that would be awesome!
Basically you only need the motor, esc and battery to run this quick right ? The servo and transmitter are basically for better handling ? Or no ?
Can you make a video about how to upgrade the 12423 WLtoys cross country truck?
How long do those upgraded batteries last ?
You need to modify the back of the 12428 roll cage like I did.
thank u :)
ThatsMyRc where did you buy
ThatsMyRc dont get either. WL toys are practically toy grad rc's. They may be cheap the quality of the parts is bad. A $75 Rc is prbably only worth $60. A $600 rc is probably worth $500. The parts just wont hold up for very long. More expensive rc's tend to also have more spare parts and upgrade parts and the brands will have better customer service. They is alot more to buy than just the car.
ThatsMyRc why
Excellent video. What servo did you install there?
I just noticed the parts list is in the description. Thanks for that and excellent video. I must have watched it 20 by now to see all the steps and learning as I go.
Thanks for sharing this upgrade
Can you please tell me that what are the equipment that you used to upgrade your 4wd across car
Excelent video, how can I play with two RC cars like your video, is there a way to do it?
Did you upgrade gear and drive shaft ?
Good job! really nice upgrade.... can you suggest a upgrade for rc HB P1003 rock crawler...I like the transmitter that you used... but I don't know which ESC and servo will match
Так не делается, хоть бы кожух с редуктора снял, может ведущая шестерня ( или как дятлы называют ПИНЬЕН) не достаёт, или наоборот. А вообще зачёт, с меня лайк.
I know its old film but if u really curious how fast is it going, max speed on this setup is 65km/h (speed on stock parts is 38)
What is that thing in your left hand at 6:24 ?
Electronic speed controller (esc)
@@vogalan2067 Thank you :) I am collecting parts right now and soon I will start putting it all together.
Do you have an idea how to connect several LEDs to this controller and how to find the correct ones on the market?
is there metal differentials i can buy cause mine were going out before i upgraded the plastic ones suck
This is the power of brushless motor
Any problems with the transmission gears holding up or the axle gears
I thought this was Kevin tablot XD
Same.
good video! but this car is a rock crawler and not designed to have a high top end, perhaps you need a buggy, truggy, stadium truck, for this project. as in dont try to make a harley davidson fast and dont try to make your rice rocket pretty. ty
creative please tell me what servo you used cause i am doing a brushless upgrade and I cant figure which servo will work or fit the ones ive got have been the fatuba s3003 (too big and the micro sg 90 i think and its too week and small please help, thanks
Great Job 👍
Is it necessary to buy a new remote control with a receiver? Or is it also without? I am a beginner...
Creative channel can you tell me the measure of the socks (front and rear) of the WLTOYS 12428?? i bought one of this but first im going to upgrade the stability with an oil filled shocks, but the car its coming from BangGood.
Thnaks!!! Congrats for the channel!!! ;D
Did you ever upgrade the shocks. The stock shocks can add oil to them.
Awsome got to do me one the same way.thanks for all the info
I work hard everyday and i hope someday people will appreciate my work :)
Can you do the same upgrades to the 12423 model?
What did you do with the old electronics
I was thinking of buying a PXToys 9302 you think he is good responds as fast as possible because the car is in discount on the gearbest
What is the top speed and where did you get the motor gear? Great video!
Rory Pollitt Stock gear, 95kmh.
Hi what servo did you used? (All the other parts ordered)
Does this same technique works on the other RC CARS?? Coz i got a car vit camera n one vit non camera....so my question is will it work vit the same technique??
buen video amigo...yo tengo uno ya mejorado y llega a 81 kph
what type servo you use
creative channel ..please make a volcano model at home and happy New year 2017...........:) ;)
the paddle tire truck is one I would like!
RC JOE
That's the water truck, drives over water like a trooper
Is this just for 3S Lipo or does 4S will work too without destroying something?
quick question.....where do you fit the lights in all this? any possible way to adapt them to this configuration and work? the old ESC had this...this new one does not have..any suggestions? Thank you
No aluminium steering horn or check your gear mesh? SHM
Gear mesh? Pah no need for that
grandprismatic Not adjustable lol.
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Tell me, why didn't you install servosaver from oryginal servo, is there bigger hole or what?
Dude, I love this car. I was surprised that i already came with a bigger motor vs the fy03. What would it take for me to use a 2838 6200kv motor for my rc? I think I have it but I just want to verify your thoughts.
Hi. Great work. But tell me, why so much dead zone between throttle and brake? Is it because of the ESC quality, or the Motor?
What's are some good differential upgrades ?What's a good parts company
Should I buy the WLTOYS 12428 or the WLtoys A959? Please answer
WLTOYS 12428 is bigger, you can bash it off road. WLtoys A959 is cheaper and stronger
Donnut or buy the k949
a959 is faster but you can run only for 5-6 minutes and with the a12428 toi can run 15-20 minutes and 50km/h is enough
Traianos Neither. They’re crap...
That's funny! With gps my stock car was only 28km/h!
Your modified car looks like about 60km/h. To get faster you have to do "a little bit" more. My 12428 runs 138km/h😉 measured by gps!
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It works if I just change the brushless motor and the ESC?, Without they servo and the transmitter??
Hi Can you do a video on upgrading the WL Toys 18628 please as I have one but would like to improve speed and battery life
can you plz give me some help with charging lipo 3s battery ?? what charger should i use ?
so cool. make agai a rc car please
CHANGING THE ENGINE, DO I NEED TO REPLACE BATTERY? BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL IS 7.4V, IN YOUR VIDEO IS 11V. ANOTHER QUESTION WILL THE RECEIVER I WILL PLACE IT WORKS ON WLTOYS 'ORIGINAL CONTROL?
Wesley Reis No need to change the battery and you have to check if the remote and reciever are compatable and 1 last thing TURN CAPSLOCK OFF!
Hi cap..
were did u buy all of ur materials?? the controller,, and the batteries?? thanks..
is the car slower with the 3600 kv motor than with the 4500 kv?
Boost Is Life
3600kv will be slower but it would have more torque.
what you use a servo?
Love this video I’m did this to my car everything the some
I am surprised that you didn't stuff the stock gears that are made out of plastic with the brushless
WTF Gears are metal, diffs are plastic.
Hey please make a video on how to install powerfull motor in Rc rock crawler...please...
Very excellent but from where I find auto parts like gears, conveyor and metal connections
I have the same car, can you tell me what max upgrade battery i can use with the stock motor and electronics?
good vid, plan on doing this to my a969
Can I run a 11.1 v lipo on the normal motor?
Skrillex no
Skrillex how many volts is the original battery?
i think 7 volts
ye, only once tho
i like it it looks like the kraken vekta 5
IMRO R/C stuff except 10x cheaper and much smaller.
if I want upgrade the esc,how about the gearbox and motor..?.need to upgrade too.?
It works really?
Is it breaked?
Is the servo a must have
My motor mount screws holding the mount to the chassis are so tight i cant get them loose they will just strip them selves if i try any advice? Thanks
Where do you learn all this your are amazing
Nathan Noronha It’s basic RC knowledge...
I have a WLtoys 12428 and used a GPS to measure the speed , out of the box it did 35kmh not 50kmh . I did a up grade 3900kv motor 60 amp esc 3000mah 3s lipo 20kg servo metal gears 120mm wheels piggyback shocks rear duel spring front now it will do 65kmh .
how about the diffs or the wheels? will they survive so much power?
How long play time do you get now instead off the original 10 min?
Good day. Can I ask? How long does the car last after upgrading?
just subbed i like what you do