Had not noticed the weight loss until I searched for shave horses and this came up. Yeah, you came a long way and look great. You’ve got some gravity ten years ago, like many of us who love food and gain a little over time.
Thanks for putting up the video, I really enjoyed it, all be it 3 1/2 years after the fact. I did not realise until I was watching you use the shave pony that you have dramatically increased the rigidity of the whole by incorporating a triangle between the bed and the base board. Timber that I initially thought was very light for the job is made strong by the design. The only thing that might make it easier to adjust would be a second row of holes at half way positions giving you 10 height adjustments rather than the 5 you have at present. All the best.
You could, similarly, have made a bench mounted spoon mule from a bit of 4×6 horizontal off the bench and some long bits for the handles/jaws, which would grip your pieces from the sides and let you make long pulls with your draw knife...
Another way to make square stock round is to first draw the correct size circle at either end then, use a pipe clamp or other clamp long enough to hold both ends, clamp the pipe in your vise and plane your stock into an octagon. This works very quickly.
Nice bodger shaving horse, very neat. I would shorten the top board, that way you can get the knife tucked right up to the arms allowing you to work more of the stock in one clamping. With a little care you wouldn't have to turn the stock after it comes off the horse.
20:00 Make different size blocks. Keep the top "clamp block" parallel to the bed regardless of the work length by putting a block at the back of the clamp block.❤ Hard to explain. If the piece you are working is too short, the clamping block will pivot. A block at the back will keep it partallel. ❤
I think his version is the best on the web! I especially think the 6 degree riser helps, I made a basic pine version as a prototype, but eventually I will make a better one and include features like this, a brass or steel rod sounds possibly better than the wood dowel I have been using because the adjustment holes can be the smaller 3/8”, i always listen to the wood talk podcast and hope it continues to air! Shanon takes the hard route using only hand tools but that is what makes him special!
Nice bench top shaving horse. May be you will not even need to make one. I followed the lead you suggested a while ago from Peter Gaelbert and the one addition I would add is a piece of leather from an old belt so the piece clamps a lot easier. Good luck. Nice work and thank you for suggesting Peter's blog.
So you use modern technology to design old world style tools for woodworking with. I like that balance. Thanks for the video. I look forward to seeing more.
Youve been learning old world culture and history on the latest tech, before he ever got involved in using it for the teaching of ........kudo's to you
might be easier to drill out the hole in the clamp piece if it was thicker stock. nice thing about these shavehorse/pony designs, they can be modified for various projects
Cool design. I think I would make the upper jaw static though like a tradition shave horse and then just make the whole leg assembly moveable. I don't like the "teetering" in the upper jaw. Seems to work but just looks strange to me. Thanks for sharing the design and work. Well done!
I know I'm late to comment but this is a great video. Thank you. It's also great to see you masterfully cut and drill with hand tools then slip up with a screw gun. It shows that you're human
Gravel Creek Farms yeah it seems weird that he was using a hand crank drill only to use a power drill to screw in the screws. But hey I would have used the power drill the whole time. So more power too you if you use hand tools at all.
That's pretty cool. It doesn't look like you really need the angled top. I think I'd use a 3x6 for the bottom board and forego the angled part. You could also countersink a carriage bolt in the bottom board that would go thru a holdfast hole in the bench top. Put the pony on the bench with the bolt going thru the hole and thread on a wing nut to hold it in place. I'd attach a short board on the bottom of the bottom board where it starts to project past the bench top. That would keep the pony from shifting sideways.
Really cool project. I just got a lathe myself and in a small shop this seems like a time and space saver. I do have to say that my favorite part of the video was watching you dominate with hand tools the entire project and then fumble with the power drill at the 14:45 part!
Thanks though I can hardly call it "my design". It has been made popular lately by Roy Underhill and he derived it from an 18th century French design by Hulot.
Perhaps take a little off your top "clamp" piece - shorten it - on the end of the clamp that is closest to you. You'll be able to cut a little bit more of your work piece with your draw shave. Just observin''.....
Agreed, a "real" shave horse is much better ergonomically too. This pony is too high for efficient work with the drawknife. I could change the bevel angle to compensate but I'm not going that far since a horse build is in my future, even if it ends up living outside.
Awesome video.mate was just thinking may be work out a way to fix it ot the end of the lathe .be a good to in one tool 😊 ps your wooden square is a work of art nice job man
i see your leg vice is making noise while you press the project piece into it.. have you now started experiencing wear in your wooden threads ?? or was it just lack of lubricant ? and what Lubricant do you recommend using on wooden threads that are as frequently being used as in a vice?
Why not just build a shave horse that can be disassembled and stored flat the beefy ikea shave horse since all of ikea comes in a flat box. My memory says I have seen a article on a shave horse like this beefy ikea shave horse but where did I see this oh well .
Why is that upper jaw that long? It seems like it´s getting in the way of your draw knife. And the jaw underneath does not give as much support as if it would reach longer out compared to the upper jaw.
I have fallen in love with using my brace to drive screws... so much quieter and never any splitting.
Had not noticed the weight loss until I searched for shave horses and this came up. Yeah, you came a long way and look great. You’ve got some gravity ten years ago, like many of us who love food and gain a little over time.
Great to see a left handed craftsman and beautiful piece of work thank you. Best wishes from Ireland 🇮🇪
I thought citeógs were banished by the nuns?😂
@@pmacc3557 we went underground 😎
If you don't screw in the ramped block, you can adjust the clamp spacing quickly and subtly by moving it forward and back.
thank you. that is exactly what I need in my small shop for spoon carving instead of a big old shave horse. well done
This looks like a good solution to my shop space restrictions. Will be adjusting your design to my own needs. Thanks.
Thanks for putting up the video, I really enjoyed it, all be it 3 1/2 years after the fact.
I did not realise until I was watching you use the shave pony that you have dramatically increased the rigidity of the whole by incorporating a triangle between the bed and the base board. Timber that I initially thought was very light for the job is made strong by the design. The only thing that might make it easier to adjust would be a second row of holes at half way positions giving you 10 height adjustments rather than the 5 you have at present.
All the best.
You could, similarly, have made a bench mounted spoon mule from a bit of 4×6 horizontal off the bench and some long bits for the handles/jaws, which would grip your pieces from the sides and let you make long pulls with your draw knife...
Another way to make square stock round is to first draw the correct size circle at either end then, use a pipe clamp or other clamp long enough to hold both ends, clamp the pipe in your vise and plane your stock into an octagon. This works very quickly.
Nice bodger shaving horse, very neat. I would shorten the top board, that way you can get the knife tucked right up to the arms allowing you to work more of the stock in one clamping. With a little care you wouldn't have to turn the stock after it comes off the horse.
Wow Love it I was a wood carving Instructor at a summer camp and we had one similar but attached to a saw horse.
Almost didn’t recognize you in this old video! Great to see you in top shape in your new vids! Anyway...enjoyed the info in this one. Thanks!
20:00 Make different size blocks. Keep the top "clamp block" parallel to the bed regardless of the work length by putting a block at the back of the clamp block.❤
Hard to explain. If the piece you are working is too short, the clamping block will pivot. A block at the back will keep it partallel. ❤
Finally see how that draw blade clamp works ! Just couldn't figure it out having never seen anything like it ! Thank you !
I think his version is the best on the web! I especially think the 6 degree riser helps, I made a basic pine version as a prototype, but eventually I will make a better one and include features like this, a brass or steel rod sounds possibly better than the wood dowel I have been using because the adjustment holes can be the smaller 3/8”, i always listen to the wood talk podcast and hope it continues to air! Shanon takes the hard route using only hand tools but that is what makes him special!
Nice bench top shaving horse. May be you will not even need to make one. I followed the lead you suggested a while ago from Peter Gaelbert and the one addition I would add is a piece of leather from an old belt so the piece clamps a lot easier. Good luck. Nice work and thank you for suggesting Peter's blog.
So you use modern technology to design old world style tools for woodworking with. I like that balance. Thanks for the video. I look forward to seeing more.
Youve been learning old world culture and history on the latest tech, before he ever got involved in using it for the teaching of ........kudo's to you
Shaving Pony, great idea. I made a shaving horse last year and love working with it, but in a small shop it does take up space.
You were correct, you didn't invent it but did perfect it. Nice job,it's on my next shop project list.
This should have way more views. It's very good.
Nice setup. I was thinking about something like this to use lass space.
Interesting to see a new brace in use, mine was my grandfather's, circa 1930, it has a certain 'patina' of use, honest it's not rust....
might be easier to drill out the hole in the clamp piece if it was thicker stock. nice thing about these shavehorse/pony designs, they can be modified for various projects
Cool design. I think I would make the upper jaw static though like a tradition shave horse and then just make the whole leg assembly moveable. I don't like the "teetering" in the upper jaw. Seems to work but just looks strange to me. Thanks for sharing the design and work. Well done!
Man I wish I could saw like that. That scarf joint cut was flat amazing.
Well done, I make canes & walking sticks for veterans and have limited space in my basement shop. This will work!
I know I'm late to comment but this is a great video. Thank you. It's also great to see you masterfully cut and drill with hand tools then slip up with a screw gun. It shows that you're human
Gravel Creek Farms yeah it seems weird that he was using a hand crank drill only to use a power drill to screw in the screws. But hey I would have used the power drill the whole time. So more power too you if you use hand tools at all.
I like the spring pole design as well.
That's pretty cool. It doesn't look like you really need the angled top. I think I'd use a 3x6 for the bottom board and forego the angled part. You could also countersink a carriage bolt in the bottom board that would go thru a holdfast hole in the bench top. Put the pony on the bench with the bolt going thru the hole and thread on a wing nut to hold it in place. I'd attach a short board on the bottom of the bottom board where it starts to project past the bench top. That would keep the pony from shifting sideways.
yes, that's why I changed the clamp height for the second piece to shorten that pedal stroke.
Really cool project. I just got a lathe myself and in a small shop this seems like a time and space saver. I do have to say that my favorite part of the video was watching you dominate with hand tools the entire project and then fumble with the power drill at the 14:45 part!
4:11 _"... the ramp part..."_
made me think: "O'er the ramp parts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?"
Nice job Shannon, thanks for this one
Cool! I love your springpole lathe design... :-)
Thanks though I can hardly call it "my design". It has been made popular lately by Roy Underhill and he derived it from an 18th century French design by Hulot.
Thank you for sharing!
It's surprising to our modern eyes what can be done with hand tools...
Perhaps take a little off your top "clamp" piece - shorten it - on the end of the clamp that is closest to you. You'll be able to cut a little bit more of your work piece with your draw shave. Just observin''.....
thought the same thing
Nice project. Shouldn't be better with a shorter pedal travel for holding things?
LOL I wondered when someone would say that. Can you tell I don't use that cordless drill very much?
It's a pleasure watching you work; inspirational.
May well give this a go :)
Gute Idee, nice or better to say : praktisch ! But I like to have a stool with backrest, ist`s with a higher place up to press with a clamp something.
Aloha,
Needed a little pony to keep me going. Thanks.
Agreed, a "real" shave horse is much better ergonomically too. This pony is too high for efficient work with the drawknife. I could change the bevel angle to compensate but I'm not going that far since a horse build is in my future, even if it ends up living outside.
Awesome video.mate was just thinking may be work out a way to fix it ot the end of the lathe .be a good to in one tool 😊 ps your wooden square is a work of art nice job man
Cool! I love your spring pole lathe design. How much is your design?
You may not have been First but you Did think of it. Well done and it's a nice design.
Peace people
Would you have the dimensions of the shave pony available for download
you seem to work better with hand tools rather then power tools good for you nice video thanx len
i see your leg vice is making noise while you press the project piece into it.. have you now started experiencing wear in your wooden threads ?? or was it just lack of lubricant ? and what Lubricant do you recommend using on wooden threads that are as frequently being used as in a vice?
no wear in the threads. I use wax periodically but haven't in some time. People comment on the noise all the time but it doesn't bother me
Great vid. Will work better for you if you take 1-2 inches off the top clamping board. Give yourself a little more work room. Be well
would it be more comfortable if both feet were pushing?
Why not just build a shave horse that can be disassembled and stored flat the beefy ikea shave horse since all of ikea comes in a flat box. My memory says I have seen a article on a shave horse like this beefy ikea shave horse but where did I see this oh well .
Yes several. Have you never tried to shave spindles with a drawknife on a shave horse. You'll never go back to a vice.
Interesting to see Shannon use his right foot even though he's left handed. 🤔
I'm right footed. I treadle my lathes primarily with the right foot. I think there is something there about cross body connection.
Great job. I think I need one hahaha
try a rounded spoke shave...it's what the thing was named and made for.
schpoingle not really
Plus you still haveto hold the work
Why is that upper jaw that long?
It seems like it´s getting in the way of your draw knife.
And the jaw underneath does not give as much support as if it would reach longer out compared to the upper jaw.
That was one of the first changes I made to it. I cut it off just past the peg hole.
Nothing new under the sun. This has proven to be true for me time and time again.....
Awesomesauce (gotta make one) ! ! ! ! Is that Awl a collet style? if so what brand, it looks super nice.
I made that awl from a kit bought from Penn State Industries (I think, it was probably a decade ago)
Than you did super work on it, I realy likey.
Ignorance is bliss, sad but true
Don't you own a vice?
That's one sexy square!
Tolle Idee
I had to sub tanks
You lost me when the power drill came out.....Why cheat?
"...several different designs for a shave pony." Ha! I thought you were going to say "don't Google it, it's fetish porn!" or something like that.
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